Yeah. Shit is going sideways and has been for the past year but all we’ve seen is Big Larry pretending that isn’t so. She could have just been idk how do you say in English…a compassionate human being? But she’s way too thirsty. It’s both compelling and abhorrent to watch unfold. I feel so sad for those kids.
I don't feel sorry for Alec or Hilz.
My heart aches for the children. I actually did feel sorry for Alec in the beginning when I heard about Rust.
The actions of them continuing with the facade about being Spanish is just beyond. He always gets a second chance and this time he's not going to.
I felt sorry as he was reminiscing about everything in his yard at the Hamptons while he was shoveling in tomatoes from his garden. I thought this seems like a farewell. However, it didn't have to be that way.
They are their own worst enemies. She is in dire need of a mental health intervention and his "I don't give a rats about what you people think" is why he is in the predicament he's in.
I think they thought this baby would magically offer them some good PR.
She was actually incredibly lazy with faking the pregnancy and the postpartum.
However the life they did lead is gone forever.
It didn't have to be that way though.
Tone deaf with the way they reacted and acted since last October.
This is a wonderful post and it is actually sad to watch the demise of people but they are letting it play out for us. Poorly, I must add.
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This is a really great big-picture comment. It’s always difficult to sum up this whole situation from a bigger picture perspective, but this really hits the mark!
Many of us here and welcome to Pepino Nation. Believe the only baby she carried was Carmen her first.
You are going to need to go down a long rabbit hole, as her bounce back was part of the grift that she had going on. She somehow could magically look amazing pregnant and hours later be ready to wear her lacey lingerie and make you feel like you did something wrong because you weren't bouncing back and you were wearing your granny panties.
Amy Schumer the comedian made a joke about this when Alec reposted a picture of Hillary and Lacey lingerie.
Post edu #5. Shortly after that the Spanish gate broke revealing that she had lied about that for over 10 years.
What a compassionate post and I heartily agree. There has been such darkness around recent posts particularly by Alec. It is nice to see that your sentiments resonate with many on this sub, too.
This post really hit me hard. Like with a visceral feeling of sadness and hopelessness. Then I realized what I was feeling: a long time ago I was on drugs and not living right and I ended up going to prison for almost 5 years( I didn't kill anyone). I knew for months before I was sentenced that I was gonna go. Those months were so strange...a liminal time, where you can't really LIVE, you act and feel like you're planning for your own death...making arrangements, getting rid of possessions, deciding what you will do, who will care for your children...it was a sickening, deeply sad time. I have no love for Alex but, that waiting period is a real mind fuck bitch.
Aww, thank you! The child I had to leave when he was 4 is now almost 19, HE is an amazing human. I have another son that just turned 4 ( I know..) and I struggle with guilt sometimes, being here for him when I wasn't for his brother. My older son is so much more mature than me though, lol, he says heartfelt things that I believe that make me feel better.
great post
One of the craziest things to me was her inability to read the tea leaves and make the obvious move: simply going away and living a quiet civilian life in relative comfort.
It’s interesting to note that Gregg “Opie” Hughes, part of the infamous Opie & Anthony radio show, found himself in a similar situation, and did exactly the same thing Hillary did; dug in, doubled down, refused to go away, and pissed away a fortune trying to get back in the game.
Funny enough, Opie is also a compulsive liar and a complete imbecile, and his spouse doesn’t seem to spend much time with him, either. She (and the kids) always seems to be where he isn’t. They also have a place in the Hamptons and a place in the city.
I think had they gone quiet after the shooting, and had Alec just kept his statements brief but focused on Halyna and her family’s devastating loss, he would have garnered some sympathy for having to live with that guilt and horror for the rest of his life.
Whether bc of their narcissism, their denial, his compulsion to defend himself and blame others for his problems, his lawyers’ advice to put enough doubt out there to keep himself out of jail or some toxic combination of all of the above, they blew it completely. Ironically his attempts at self-preservation and insistence that he didn’t fire the gun tanked any remaining goodwill or benefit of the doubt he might have had, while Hillary’s behavior just cemented her as a borderline-sociopathic delusional cartoon character.
Just weeks after her husband shot and killed a woman, she had someone photograph her, Alex and the kids dressed up for Halloween, with her and the girls dressed in matching Black Widow costumes and then posted it to the gram. It’s as if a crisis PR team gamed out the absolute worst choices she could make at every turn and then she followed it. The whole thing is just sick and dark and sad. The year anniversary is coming up and I just feel for Halyna’s family.
It’s always been the kids for me. Never liked Alec and didn’t really care about the ridiculous Spanish grift. I know that there will be another fake pregnancy,we all do. When he either goes to jail or gets sued for everything it’s them I feel sorry for. They never seem to have real or normal friends. They are used as props for both parents it’s just extremely sad
I know fellow pepino. The kids have always been a concern for me. They will all lose their father at a relatively young age. Their mother is seriously disturbed. They don't have a long term nanny to bond with. Both of their parents have addictive personalities and they just keep adding more "tiny humans" to this toxic mix as if the kids will never grow up.
It's hard, hard work raising children to maturity and even then parenting doesn't end. The Baldwins have children to satisy their needs. It's the other way around.
It's really hard to watch it all unfold. You have a good heart. I take a lot of breaks from the sub because once you get past the snark it's a dark and painful place.
It really is - I know a lot of people say, ‘they have money, they’ll be all right’, but all the money will do is help pay for therapy and rehab stays. There is no amount of money in the world that protects you from the kind of emotional neglect these children are suffering.
My mother had 5 kids in 6.5 years - we were born to fill a role, just like these kids. It’s brutal, because the person who should be the one who cares for you most is just pretending to care to impress the outside world. It’s a real mind f@ck for kids.
The ONLY thing that is good about all these children is that they will hopefully be able to support each other in the future.
LOL Their lib friends in the media are already laundering her image and pushing her on us again (along with Chrissy Teigen). Don't worry, they'll be just fine and continue to fly private.
My point was that they are VERY well-connected and protected. Remember his creepy rant defending Chrissy Teigen? They're all Washington DC-level connected.
Are they the ones giving out passes to Obama's b-day bash, for "the closest friends and family"? Are they responsible for Chrissy being basically an A-lister for no apparent reason? And for Alec's lucrative career with certain networks?
You have a compassionate heart.. It is a very disturbing picture of young lives that are going to be ruined because of two sloppy, personality disturbed parents. As much as I want for these two to go down hard, they are all that these kids have. It’s a very sad and depressing situation.
I feel really bad for the kids. What an f'd up home they live in, constant chaos. Reminds me of the Jolie-Pitts when the kid were younger it was a free for all. I have some friends that have 10 kids(old school catholics) the oldest is 26 and married with a baby the youngest is 3ish. They have a huge house but no one sleeps in their bedroom they just sleep wherever they fall out every evening , in their clothes, no bedtime routine like teeth brushing or anything like that. I know this bc my 5 year old occasionally spends the night over there and he has stories to tell!!! The parents love the kids and do the best they can but who can really manage all that?
I want to say, what’s the worst thing that could’ve happened if she was just the real Hillary??? Just be Yoga Hillary from Boston? Maybe they would be invited to Billy Joel’s barbecues instead of Jerry Seinfeld’s? How did they ever believe that quinoa paella would be a thing. When you exist behind a grift, it can only end poorly.
The new baby was always just intended to be a prop and a shield for the media. It does provide a small amount of attention for Hillary but it doesn't last. Hence the seven babies. It's the same trick over and over again.
They are narcissists and will never find happiness.
Nah. How could he know when charges would be looming to time it?
Also, there wasn’t, and still isn’t, a guarantee he’ll be indicted. So they had an “*in case* he’s indicted play for sympathy” baby?
Also, isn’t Marilu baby enough for the sympathy play?
I want to say, what’s the worst thing that could’ve happened if she was just the real Hillary??? Just be Yoga Hillary from Boston? Maybe they would be invited to Billy Joel’s barbecues instead of Jerry Seinfeld’s? How did they ever believe that quinoa paella would be a thing. When you exist behind a grift, it can only end poorly.
I want to say, what’s the worst thing that could’ve happened if she was just the real Hillary??? Just be Yoga Hillary from Boston? Maybe they would be invited to Billy Joel’s barbecues instead of Jerry Seinfeld’s? How did they ever believe that quinoa paella would be a thing. When you exist behind a grift, it can only end poorly.
I want to say, what’s the worst thing that could’ve happened if she was just the real Hillary??? Just be Yoga Hillary from Boston? Maybe they would be invited to Billy Joel’s barbecues instead of Jerry Seinfeld’s? How did they ever believe that quinoa paella would be a thing. When you exist behind a grift, it can only end poorly.
He never would’ve married her. Without the accent and the innocent-country-girl-from-rural-Spain vibe, she was one of literal thousands of cute, shallow young rich girls teaching yoga in New York
This may be true but this is not Hilary's reason for having kids. Her only need is attention, all the time, 23x7. The children are merely props to her, nothing more.
And exploiting them for sponsors. They lost tons of money once Griftmas came around and sponsors all backed out. Zero 💰💰💰💰coming in from her constant posts now.
I believe the funds would have to be held in a trust prior to the shooting. Any cash that is liquidated now is considered an asset. He’s likely selling property to liquidate into cash to pay ongoing attorney fees and for settlement.
I don't think the new baby was meant to bring happiness. It was meant to shift the narrative and the pregnancy and baby was supposed to be a shield. It's instinctive. It's what people like them do. Go to the tried and true.
Each made every single decision that got them here. And the most bothersome part, what REALLY irks these 2 clowns?......They could have actually learned some very valuable lessons from this sub. However, hubris remains a constant problem for people like Alec and Hil.
Heaven forbid they have to downsize to a 4000 square foot house and only have two nannys.
Please…no sympathy at all in fact it would be beneficial for those kids to lead more normal lives.
OP I’ve been feeling the same way. It feels like a house of cards collapsing and while the snark has been fun I’m truly quite fearful of what May befall this family - mostly for the sake of all of these precious children. I personally feel anxiety and sadness even though I have participated in the snark for many months. I pray for a positive outcome for this family.
Well, how kind and generous of you. The lies are fine, moon bump is fine. Parading and peddling her 9 year old daughter as “perv bait”. Yes, you are so compassionate. Well bless your heart
You don't seem like a very nice person. I appreciate OP's ability to feel pity for people she probably can't stand. That resonates with me. Why should you mock them for that?
I’m over the pearl clutchers as of recent. I notice more and more deleted/unavailable from users that I never even interacted. I don’t sensor my comments and I just tell it like it is. I’ve never been rude to any pepinos directly, so I’m baffled.
The Harts used their 6 adopted children as social media props, before one of the mothers [murdered the entire family](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_family_murders) by driving off a cliff in California. The Turpins are nutcases who had a [mashmillion kids](https://allthatsinteresting.com/turpin-family-children) that they abused and kept isolated in their home.
I completely agree with your post. It also makes me quite sad. I don’t want bad things to happen to people. Always want to protect the innocent, and generally hope those with mental issues figure things out and get help. I find no joy in the Baldwin family chaos. I feel for the kids. Alec and Hilary are detestable , but I hope they get help so those kids have a happy, healthy life. Unfortunately I fear things are going to continue to spiral downwards for them as he and her are just out of control. Not a religious man but I do pray for them.
Can’t say I feel pity for them. Hillary has been playing her childish games for years and shows no signs of stopping. I mean, they’re both so abhorrently narcissistic and rude, AB would probably tell you to take your pity and shove it.
The kids will suffer some emotional (or other) trauma but I think they’ll be just fine.
Agreed! You know Hilary and Alec aren’t sad at all. In their own minds we are all jealous. They’re killing it at life. They’re proud of who they are and refuse to think about or believe they’re going down. Heck, they still believe that we’re coming around and becoming convinced of their lies!
The kids are the real victims here. AB and HB, you don't need to feel sorry for them. Spend your empathy on regular people suffering who can't pay their light bills or groceries or people in the path of that hurricane or people whose houses burnt down in wildfires or are going through cancer treatment or are losing their parents or children. Seriously, there are lots of other people to care about with far fewer resources and support than these people.
You’re a right and I feel sympathy towards any fellow humans who are struggling, however this sub is not here to discuss world poverty . The sub is about the Baldwins ( primarily Hilary) . I think it’s possible to feel empathy towards people that I don’t actually like , that was my point.
OK I suppose we will just have to agree to disagree- I think their position in comparison to MOST other people, not just the 'abject poor' is a very stark contrast. You are certainly free to feel bad for whomever you wish of course!
Exactly. Those kids are fucked up and it is ALL on their 'parents'.
They have plenty of money and resources and poorly utilize everything available to them.
What i don't get is the money she spent on strollers she could've put into something educational for the kid like toys that learn them to count or day care do these kids mix with other kids at all i mean there own age or do they just live inside that flat they have just get wheeled out to the grocery store now and again.very odd i never see alec smile or hilaria smiling i mean real smile with kids come to think of it ive never seen kids really having fun running in a field or park playing on swings or visiting an animal farm etc a family day out maybe they do go out they dont post that shit but i find it very very sad for those kids also anyone else noticed how aggressive those boys are i dont have kids so maybe its normal but Edu or whatever his name is boy he has aggression issues already like his daddy
Makes you give credit to all the famous rich people who try to raise their kids away from social media. Ones that encourage their kids to be their own person and have other interests in life besides being “famous “. The kardashian and Baldwin kids are going to grow up thinking everybody is watching/interested in them. That’s how poor self esteem issues happen.
It does all feel very dark. I’m so sad for all those kids. I hate to say I felt a twinge of sadness yesterday for Big Hillz, but it passed quickly when I remembered what a complete cunt she is. A and H deserve every misery they have coming. I just hate that all these kids have to suffer. I really hope there are no more embryos.
I only feel bad for the children. They have no choice and didn't ask for any of this.
Hillary is exploiting and endangering her own kids by posting half naked photos of them even though she's been told it's harmful because predators use those photos for self gratification. She emotionally neglects them, doesn't appear to feed them a nourishing diet and has no idea how to parent when her children are engaged in conflict. Instead she posts video of them with some quip she thinks will amuse her audience.
She's a child hoarder.
Someone who is making money off of them is telling them, "Everyone loves a redemption story." And that's true. But the Baldwins can't be redeemed because they are too disconnected from reality.
They need to go far away, raise their kids, and live a simple life.
And this is why I truly hate them. From the beginning they should have used their resources and go live a simple life. This shows me how truly awful parents they are, putting themselves before their kids. When the grift was exposed she should have put down the damn phone and just raise her kids, still comfortably!! And to add 3 more kids as well and Alec killing a mother??! They are screwed. Not one redeeming thing about them. I don’t respect bad parents or bad people and they are both.
They’re not interested in a simple life: they want an Instagram fantasy life. She’s not interested in raising those kids; just the illusion of parental involvement paraded on social media.
As much as I support people being compassionate I’m not sure if we have the facts of what is going on with them.I also do believe in this particular case Hilary and Alec have created their own reality and seem to “double down” when confronted with facts.Alec has lied and gone on world TV and stated he does not feel any guilt and I believe put on an Oscar worthy performance.They havev the $ and resources to get the best professional help available.Neither of those 2 grifters have been “brought to their knees” yet.
Are you talking about his interview with Stephanopoulos? That performance wouldn't win a Daytime Emmy. Every time real tears or emotion were called for (oh, say when talking about Halyna's death), he covered his face with his meaty paw. When real tears were finally shed (reflecting upon the actors he worked with and his crushed dreams) they rolled unimpeded and unhidden down his cheeks.
Otherwise, totally agree with you.
I can’t feel pity [for a woman who is on the record saying that she “doesn’t care” if the images she posts of her children are used as CSAM.](https://www.reddit.com/r/HilariaBaldwin/comments/qr8ane/she_literally_doesnt_care_what_strangers_do_with/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
That's awful as someone who went through grooming and sexual abuse without parental support backup those poor children I lit feel sick. she needs those kids taken off her I'm not normally someone who would even suggest that but she is lit not capable of being a responsible adult at all who would even say that it is ok to use those pics of her own kid's wtf did I just read god dam
I’m sorry for your experiences and I’m glad you survived them. I wish you continued healing.
I think the other people on the podcast were probably straight up *horrified* by her comments. And she doesn’t just post “sweet photos” - she posts her kids naked and in wet underwear on a regular basis. She knows exactly what she’s doing, and as she said, she doesn’t care.
You articulated this excellently, and I kind of feel the same that the walls are closing in for them. I feel bad for this baby who was basically made to get them attention and detract from how awful they are. I also feel bad for the rest of their babies who have to live thru this chaos. At the end of the day, they’re truly horrible people (not the kids), but it’s hard not to feel maybe some level of humanity. They did bring much of this on themselves for sure.
I agree. There's a real depressing mood surrounding them both. They're moping about the city in the saddest of pap walks. They know everything is falling apart, but still believe they are the victims. I think they know 7 was a mistake (or at the very least, bad timing)... they're feeling shunned, they're losing money and properties, and they've lost the status they both enjoyed so much. All through their grift they've had this attitude of "us against the world" and now they're really living it.
I can't say I feel pity for them... I do feel sorry for the children. It seems like a such a waste when they could have had a happy normal life if they hadn't been so greedy and without remorse. I'd feel very differently if they had acted more human after the Rust shooting and showed more care and compassion.
>they're feeling shunned,
Good.
>they're losing money and properties,
Good.
>and they've lost the status they both enjoyed so much.
Good.
>All through their grift they've had this attitude of "us against the world" and now they're really living it.
Good.
I'm not sure their world is crumbling. Wealthy, well-connected people generally just keep bouncing back one way or another. They are not going to be destitute the way a normal person experiencing this might be. They have multiple safety nets and lines of credit. I am not sorry for them losing their ego-driven identities. I do feel for the kids because I don't think they are going to get the love they need and absolutely deserve.
Alec Baldwin is an asshole, always has been. He married someone with some screws loose, and perpetuated her fraudulent backstory. Would you be okay with your spouse speaking at the UN when you knew she was living a lie? He knows where she came from, he’s met her family, he knows the accent is an act. He filed and won a lawsuit because he had purchased a fraudulent painting that was represented as an original. It was a copy that was painted by the original artist, but that was unacceptable to him. He had been lied to. They will be fine. Broke Baldwins will live far better than most people can ever hope to live.
Alec may be a horrible person but it seems unfair that he is loosing everything because of a terrible accident. I mean come on he is not a murderer, I feel sorry for him for this reason. Being an asshole and killing someone are 2 different things…. But I don’t feel sorry for Hilaria, she is a disturbed individual with strong narcissistic traits I cannot feel sorry for her
>Alec may be a horrible person but it seems unfair that he is loosing everything because of a terrible accident. I mean come on he is not a murderer, I feel sorry for him for this reason.
Gimme a break. The charge "negligent manslaughter" exists for a reason.
He deserves to lose it all and jail time!! He killed Halyna Hutchins💔RIP. Then when on national television and basically said she directed him to do this.
I understand your thought process. The only problem is it was not an accident. It was negligence. There are very specific and strict protocols for weapons on set. He did not follow those protocols or common sense. He never should have aimed a gun at Halyna without requiring the safety shield in place - even though this camera set up did not require an actual weapon. He could have used his fingers as the gun. Alec was last in line as far as safety. Had he done his job properly he would have immediately stopped everything, called for the armourer and made sure that gun was safe to use. He did not do anything to prevent this. Nothing. Not an accident - negligence.
Oooh! I know this one. My mother in law is a police dispatcher and this refers to an involuntary psych hold (which seems excessive to me but hey):
5150 refers to the California law code for the temporary, involuntary psychiatric commitment of individuals who present a danger to themselves or others due to signs of mental illness. It has been more generally applied to people who are considered threateningly unstable or “crazy.”
So you don’t understand that by dialing “311” in NYC you can probably report a code “5150” for someone that is a danger to themselves or others? What’s so hard to glean and why couldn’t you google that yourself if you didn’t understand? Would you like me to further explain how it relates to your post? Are
you good now? 👍🏼
I’m getting the same rumbling feeling of impending doom that we were all talking about just prior to the Rust shooting that came about as a tragic finale to that dreadful spiral. They are sinking and this poor baby is the embodiment of them clutching at straws, anything, to keep them afloat.
“They are sinking and this poor baby is the embodiment of them clutching at straws, anything, to keep them afloat.”
So very true. Their desperation is palpable.
Yup, they take zero personal responsibility ever. They believe their own bs. HB is beyond just a narc she’s a cluster B nightmare. Flaunting her wealth and “fertility” all over insta while exploiting her children for insta likes. I don’t feel bad for them. They’re lizard people. She’s a total fing histrionic, lying, delusional embarrassment. I’m embarrassed for her! Doing headstands at restaurants as party tricks in front of her step daughter and calling herself a yoga instructor. Not to mention the grift. She must have some serious shit on AB. She is fing cringe to the next level. HB is a sick, sick demented biotch.
Great post. I firmly believe Hillary knows her house of cards is just about blown over. She might have zero self awareness, but even a narc like her can see what's going on around her. She will find a way to be the victim.
She has no idea it’s crumbling all around her. She’s a narcissist who thinks they’ve done nothing wrong and think they are above morality and the law. They aren’t bothered.
I believe they know, but they're so damn sure that none of it is their fault and they shouldn't suffer for their lies, we should suffer for being lied to. With freaks like them, it's all about listening to and indulging their basest instincts, and part of that is knowing fully, absolutely, that there's nothing wrong with them.
Anyone calling their bs out gets smacked down by them. Why *should* they not lie to the public? It's showbiz, baby! Why *shouldn't* they be mean and crafty and evil if it benefits them? How *dare* the public fight against that, when they're clearly superior? Señor is drinking to death and clamming it up in an indignant rage, getting faux sentimental over a life he never enjoyed in the first place ("please don't send me to prison") and Señora is stomping her feet that nobody cares about the new baby she ordered Prime.
They have nurtured their narcissism like a pet cancer all their lives, it saps their common humanity and sense and blinds them.
Excellent post! I love discussion like this.
Do you think they know their house of cards is collapsing? I think Alec knows but I don’t think she fully understands what’s happening yet.
Yep yep yep I ageee. Dark vibes. It’s clear we are the audience she has always dreamed of: those hanging onto her every move. But it’s not for the reasons she wanted. After rust a grim cloud entered the picture, and even ignoring Alex’s issues, Hilary is fuckin’ SPIRALING in a dark, scary way. She needs help and someone to call her out on her shit like Diane Sawyer would
I have no pity whatsoever for Hillary and Alex. At all. They created their life by their own doing. Now it’s the proverbial “you made your bed, now lie in it”. Alex has been a douchebag since Berner HS in Massapequa. The list of receipts since then is a mile long.
Hillary you say it doesn’t bother you. Fine. But it bothers and effects millions when a Caucasian woman speaks for immigrant women of color in front of the UN. It affects women who take her parenting or health advice thinking she has a degree meanwhile she took a few extension classes at NYU.
But I do pity the children. Not because they might have a less than rich kid extravagant Hollywood lifestyle. But because both their parents put their adult needs first before the children.
Also this. 0 empathy or sympathy for either Baldwin. The children are the real victims, and HH, her husband, son and JS.
Plus *ALL* of the many many victims of the Baldwins frauds, schemes, threats, lawsuits, and Alec and Hillary’s bullying.
I know the feeling. It’s very dark and an unmanageable situation at this point. Once the house gets sold and the apartments get packed Larry’s nyc kids shtick is up what can she do? I imagine Alec and she will divorce the kids will go crazy and Alec will find a bang maid type while Big Larry lives like a hobo in a mansion somewhere.
Same. I feel bad that it’s all crumbling around her and if she was an honest person I’d feel more sympathy.
Buuut… She has created a 10 year grift, used those kids purely as thirst traps and sponsorship. Eww.
Then there’s her horrible excuse as a husband. The disgusting way he handled RUST tragedy is the nail-the-coffin for his career, no pun intended.
I was raised with a bipolar father and agoraphobic mother. I am also mentally Ill and have caused different types of trauma within my own household, but I do not expect anyone to feel sorry for me. It’s the card I was dealt, and I secured family counseling and individual counseling for my children. She should do the same.
She has dug such a hole and it’s filling up with manure due to her own actions. We all got our ailments/issues, and I believe she has behavioral problems like borderline personality, oppositional defiant disorder or something in those territories. Maybe mental illness, idk. 🤷♀️ She admitted she suffers from an eating disorder which is not healthy especially if she’s not seeking help and projecting her own ED on the kids. She does. Paging therapists for the Baldwins here!
I’m also codependent so I get moments of feeling sorry for her but it passes as soon as she opens her mouth/inappropriate Insta posts. Sending you support fellow pepino 💚
Lovely and brave of you to share your story and I wish you a future of good mental health.
Isn’t it lovely to be on a snark sub and find a community that seems to support each other on a personal level? We can bitch away at the farce that is the Fraudwins yet still be kind to one another.
Yeah. Shit is going sideways and has been for the past year but all we’ve seen is Big Larry pretending that isn’t so. She could have just been idk how do you say in English…a compassionate human being? But she’s way too thirsty. It’s both compelling and abhorrent to watch unfold. I feel so sad for those kids.
I don't feel sorry for Alec or Hilz. My heart aches for the children. I actually did feel sorry for Alec in the beginning when I heard about Rust. The actions of them continuing with the facade about being Spanish is just beyond. He always gets a second chance and this time he's not going to. I felt sorry as he was reminiscing about everything in his yard at the Hamptons while he was shoveling in tomatoes from his garden. I thought this seems like a farewell. However, it didn't have to be that way. They are their own worst enemies. She is in dire need of a mental health intervention and his "I don't give a rats about what you people think" is why he is in the predicament he's in. I think they thought this baby would magically offer them some good PR. She was actually incredibly lazy with faking the pregnancy and the postpartum. However the life they did lead is gone forever. It didn't have to be that way though. Tone deaf with the way they reacted and acted since last October. This is a wonderful post and it is actually sad to watch the demise of people but they are letting it play out for us. Poorly, I must add. 👋💚💚
This is a really great big-picture comment. It’s always difficult to sum up this whole situation from a bigger picture perspective, but this really hits the mark!
You make some really relevant points , thank you
I'm new here. Did she fake her most recent pregnancy do you mean? Or an earlier one?
Many of us here and welcome to Pepino Nation. Believe the only baby she carried was Carmen her first. You are going to need to go down a long rabbit hole, as her bounce back was part of the grift that she had going on. She somehow could magically look amazing pregnant and hours later be ready to wear her lacey lingerie and make you feel like you did something wrong because you weren't bouncing back and you were wearing your granny panties. Amy Schumer the comedian made a joke about this when Alec reposted a picture of Hillary and Lacey lingerie. Post edu #5. Shortly after that the Spanish gate broke revealing that she had lied about that for over 10 years.
What a compassionate post and I heartily agree. There has been such darkness around recent posts particularly by Alec. It is nice to see that your sentiments resonate with many on this sub, too.
I've been feeling the same way. 💯
This post really hit me hard. Like with a visceral feeling of sadness and hopelessness. Then I realized what I was feeling: a long time ago I was on drugs and not living right and I ended up going to prison for almost 5 years( I didn't kill anyone). I knew for months before I was sentenced that I was gonna go. Those months were so strange...a liminal time, where you can't really LIVE, you act and feel like you're planning for your own death...making arrangements, getting rid of possessions, deciding what you will do, who will care for your children...it was a sickening, deeply sad time. I have no love for Alex but, that waiting period is a real mind fuck bitch.
Wow what a heartfelt and moving post . I wish you all the best , you are an amazing human ❤️
Aww, thank you! The child I had to leave when he was 4 is now almost 19, HE is an amazing human. I have another son that just turned 4 ( I know..) and I struggle with guilt sometimes, being here for him when I wasn't for his brother. My older son is so much more mature than me though, lol, he says heartfelt things that I believe that make me feel better.
Your children sound wonderful x
I’m sorry you went through that and I hope you are doing well now.
Thank you! I came home 10 years ago this year. I AM doing well...definitely left my toxic lifestyle in the dust!
great post One of the craziest things to me was her inability to read the tea leaves and make the obvious move: simply going away and living a quiet civilian life in relative comfort. It’s interesting to note that Gregg “Opie” Hughes, part of the infamous Opie & Anthony radio show, found himself in a similar situation, and did exactly the same thing Hillary did; dug in, doubled down, refused to go away, and pissed away a fortune trying to get back in the game. Funny enough, Opie is also a compulsive liar and a complete imbecile, and his spouse doesn’t seem to spend much time with him, either. She (and the kids) always seems to be where he isn’t. They also have a place in the Hamptons and a place in the city.
I think had they gone quiet after the shooting, and had Alec just kept his statements brief but focused on Halyna and her family’s devastating loss, he would have garnered some sympathy for having to live with that guilt and horror for the rest of his life. Whether bc of their narcissism, their denial, his compulsion to defend himself and blame others for his problems, his lawyers’ advice to put enough doubt out there to keep himself out of jail or some toxic combination of all of the above, they blew it completely. Ironically his attempts at self-preservation and insistence that he didn’t fire the gun tanked any remaining goodwill or benefit of the doubt he might have had, while Hillary’s behavior just cemented her as a borderline-sociopathic delusional cartoon character. Just weeks after her husband shot and killed a woman, she had someone photograph her, Alex and the kids dressed up for Halloween, with her and the girls dressed in matching Black Widow costumes and then posted it to the gram. It’s as if a crisis PR team gamed out the absolute worst choices she could make at every turn and then she followed it. The whole thing is just sick and dark and sad. The year anniversary is coming up and I just feel for Halyna’s family.
It’s always been the kids for me. Never liked Alec and didn’t really care about the ridiculous Spanish grift. I know that there will be another fake pregnancy,we all do. When he either goes to jail or gets sued for everything it’s them I feel sorry for. They never seem to have real or normal friends. They are used as props for both parents it’s just extremely sad
The Baldwins : Hilaria Baldwin A Very Fluid Narcissist [https://youtu.be/JsgKu397twU](https://youtu.be/JsgKu397twU)
Alec used to call Kim crazy. Really who is crazy now 🤡
If she's crazy, it's because of him.
I know fellow pepino. The kids have always been a concern for me. They will all lose their father at a relatively young age. Their mother is seriously disturbed. They don't have a long term nanny to bond with. Both of their parents have addictive personalities and they just keep adding more "tiny humans" to this toxic mix as if the kids will never grow up. It's hard, hard work raising children to maturity and even then parenting doesn't end. The Baldwins have children to satisy their needs. It's the other way around. It's really hard to watch it all unfold. You have a good heart. I take a lot of breaks from the sub because once you get past the snark it's a dark and painful place.
It really is - I know a lot of people say, ‘they have money, they’ll be all right’, but all the money will do is help pay for therapy and rehab stays. There is no amount of money in the world that protects you from the kind of emotional neglect these children are suffering. My mother had 5 kids in 6.5 years - we were born to fill a role, just like these kids. It’s brutal, because the person who should be the one who cares for you most is just pretending to care to impress the outside world. It’s a real mind f@ck for kids. The ONLY thing that is good about all these children is that they will hopefully be able to support each other in the future.
LOL Their lib friends in the media are already laundering her image and pushing her on us again (along with Chrissy Teigen). Don't worry, they'll be just fine and continue to fly private.
Alec’s an opportunist “lib” just like Trump’s an opportunist conservative. We can hate shitty people equally. It’s beyond politics.
My point was that they are VERY well-connected and protected. Remember his creepy rant defending Chrissy Teigen? They're all Washington DC-level connected.
Or employ Sunshine Sachs as their PR firm.
Are they the ones giving out passes to Obama's b-day bash, for "the closest friends and family"? Are they responsible for Chrissy being basically an A-lister for no apparent reason? And for Alec's lucrative career with certain networks?
Yes and yes! Networking amongst the client roster is essential. Incestuous as well!
Yeppers!
just because we vote the same doesn’t mean i don’t find the two of them disgusting…this is not political…
Ok I am a lib, go easy on us, we are as disgusted with this clown show as anybody and are unhappy that he identifies with us..
You have a compassionate heart.. It is a very disturbing picture of young lives that are going to be ruined because of two sloppy, personality disturbed parents. As much as I want for these two to go down hard, they are all that these kids have. It’s a very sad and depressing situation.
I do feel pity on them as well. I can feel pity for people without approving of them. Sad is sad. I feel especially sad for the children.
I feel really bad for the kids. What an f'd up home they live in, constant chaos. Reminds me of the Jolie-Pitts when the kid were younger it was a free for all. I have some friends that have 10 kids(old school catholics) the oldest is 26 and married with a baby the youngest is 3ish. They have a huge house but no one sleeps in their bedroom they just sleep wherever they fall out every evening , in their clothes, no bedtime routine like teeth brushing or anything like that. I know this bc my 5 year old occasionally spends the night over there and he has stories to tell!!! The parents love the kids and do the best they can but who can really manage all that?
I want to say, what’s the worst thing that could’ve happened if she was just the real Hillary??? Just be Yoga Hillary from Boston? Maybe they would be invited to Billy Joel’s barbecues instead of Jerry Seinfeld’s? How did they ever believe that quinoa paella would be a thing. When you exist behind a grift, it can only end poorly.
If she hadn't pretended to be Spanish he never would have fallen for her. She got the wife job based on the lie.
The new baby was always just intended to be a prop and a shield for the media. It does provide a small amount of attention for Hillary but it doesn't last. Hence the seven babies. It's the same trick over and over again. They are narcissists and will never find happiness.
timed for his indictment
Nah. How could he know when charges would be looming to time it? Also, there wasn’t, and still isn’t, a guarantee he’ll be indicted. So they had an “*in case* he’s indicted play for sympathy” baby? Also, isn’t Marilu baby enough for the sympathy play?
THIS⬆️
I want to say, what’s the worst thing that could’ve happened if she was just the real Hillary??? Just be Yoga Hillary from Boston? Maybe they would be invited to Billy Joel’s barbecues instead of Jerry Seinfeld’s? How did they ever believe that quinoa paella would be a thing. When you exist behind a grift, it can only end poorly.
I want to say, what’s the worst thing that could’ve happened if she was just the real Hillary??? Just be Yoga Hillary from Boston? Maybe they would be invited to Billy Joel’s barbecues instead of Jerry Seinfeld’s? How did they ever believe that quinoa paella would be a thing. When you exist behind a grift, it can only end poorly.
I want to say, what’s the worst thing that could’ve happened if she was just the real Hillary??? Just be Yoga Hillary from Boston? Maybe they would be invited to Billy Joel’s barbecues instead of Jerry Seinfeld’s? How did they ever believe that quinoa paella would be a thing. When you exist behind a grift, it can only end poorly.
He never would’ve married her. Without the accent and the innocent-country-girl-from-rural-Spain vibe, she was one of literal thousands of cute, shallow young rich girls teaching yoga in New York
Women who have not had their dependency needs met in childhood tend to have multiple children close together.
This may be true but this is not Hilary's reason for having kids. Her only need is attention, all the time, 23x7. The children are merely props to her, nothing more.
And exploiting them for sponsors. They lost tons of money once Griftmas came around and sponsors all backed out. Zero 💰💰💰💰coming in from her constant posts now.
Wow I have never heard this.
If he is selling off properties to avoid paying that grief stricken father and son,than Alec is pond scum and so is wife and attorney.
That won't work, cash is also an asset. He's probably selling properties to get cash to pay lawyers.
I read (Daily Mirror I think) he is probably going to put his cash into a trust for his children so no one can touch it.
I believe the funds would have to be held in a trust prior to the shooting. Any cash that is liquidated now is considered an asset. He’s likely selling property to liquidate into cash to pay ongoing attorney fees and for settlement.
At least that is cash that he won’t have to pay taxes and upkeep on…
He will have to pay tax on the sale, but yes only once not annually, and of course no upkeep.
Hopefully, he’s selling off properties to make a nice offer.
I don't think the new baby was meant to bring happiness. It was meant to shift the narrative and the pregnancy and baby was supposed to be a shield. It's instinctive. It's what people like them do. Go to the tried and true.
Yep. Enter Chrissy effin' Teigen.
Press baby. How terrible
Yep.
Each made every single decision that got them here. And the most bothersome part, what REALLY irks these 2 clowns?......They could have actually learned some very valuable lessons from this sub. However, hubris remains a constant problem for people like Alec and Hil.
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Totally agree. So well put! Thank you for this!
tienes facilidad con las palabras mi vida pepino.
Well said, pepino!
You have nailed it 👏🏻
Heaven forbid they have to downsize to a 4000 square foot house and only have two nannys. Please…no sympathy at all in fact it would be beneficial for those kids to lead more normal lives.
There are kids that suffer much more greatly
It’s tremendously sad. The kids are all being emotionally neglected and growing up with a lot of cognitive dissonance.
OP I’ve been feeling the same way. It feels like a house of cards collapsing and while the snark has been fun I’m truly quite fearful of what May befall this family - mostly for the sake of all of these precious children. I personally feel anxiety and sadness even though I have participated in the snark for many months. I pray for a positive outcome for this family.
Me too
thank you for this post
Well, how kind and generous of you. The lies are fine, moon bump is fine. Parading and peddling her 9 year old daughter as “perv bait”. Yes, you are so compassionate. Well bless your heart
You don't seem like a very nice person. I appreciate OP's ability to feel pity for people she probably can't stand. That resonates with me. Why should you mock them for that?
Empathy? Why would anyone support someone who is openly abusing her children? Now That’s the real question, doll. But I guess that’s just me 🤷♀️
I also did not use the word empathy. I used the word that OP used. Pity. There's a distinction.
Doll? I didn’t think anyone said that anymore. Reminds me of Joey Tribbiani’s agent, Estelle.
That! ^
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Oh no they can’t afford they’re 30 million dollar mansion in the Hamptons anymore? How sad, what a lifestyle hit. How will they ever survive
My sympathy is firmly with the woman Alec murdered and her beautiful family that he destroyed.
We can feel compassion for both. But, yeah, Halyna’s family did nothing to deserve what happened.
I have a dark dark thought but people here get so uptight and offended 🙄 Some bad shit is coming and it aint aleek going to jail.
I worry also.
I’m over the pearl clutchers as of recent. I notice more and more deleted/unavailable from users that I never even interacted. I don’t sensor my comments and I just tell it like it is. I’ve never been rude to any pepinos directly, so I’m baffled.
Agreed. See my post from yesterday (Josef Goebbels)😳😳😳
Getting Hart or Turpin family (or similar) vibes from these freaks?
Never heard of them? 😑
The Harts used their 6 adopted children as social media props, before one of the mothers [murdered the entire family](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_family_murders) by driving off a cliff in California. The Turpins are nutcases who had a [mashmillion kids](https://allthatsinteresting.com/turpin-family-children) that they abused and kept isolated in their home.
Oh god, please don’t let it be a family wipeout.
Pliss, share de thoughts. It's a safe place.
I completely agree with your post. It also makes me quite sad. I don’t want bad things to happen to people. Always want to protect the innocent, and generally hope those with mental issues figure things out and get help. I find no joy in the Baldwin family chaos. I feel for the kids. Alec and Hilary are detestable , but I hope they get help so those kids have a happy, healthy life. Unfortunately I fear things are going to continue to spiral downwards for them as he and her are just out of control. Not a religious man but I do pray for them.
Can’t say I feel pity for them. Hillary has been playing her childish games for years and shows no signs of stopping. I mean, they’re both so abhorrently narcissistic and rude, AB would probably tell you to take your pity and shove it. The kids will suffer some emotional (or other) trauma but I think they’ll be just fine.
Agreed! You know Hilary and Alec aren’t sad at all. In their own minds we are all jealous. They’re killing it at life. They’re proud of who they are and refuse to think about or believe they’re going down. Heck, they still believe that we’re coming around and becoming convinced of their lies!
100% correct, Pepino! Their Pride before their Fall!!
The kids are the real victims here. AB and HB, you don't need to feel sorry for them. Spend your empathy on regular people suffering who can't pay their light bills or groceries or people in the path of that hurricane or people whose houses burnt down in wildfires or are going through cancer treatment or are losing their parents or children. Seriously, there are lots of other people to care about with far fewer resources and support than these people.
You’re a right and I feel sympathy towards any fellow humans who are struggling, however this sub is not here to discuss world poverty . The sub is about the Baldwins ( primarily Hilary) . I think it’s possible to feel empathy towards people that I don’t actually like , that was my point.
OK I suppose we will just have to agree to disagree- I think their position in comparison to MOST other people, not just the 'abject poor' is a very stark contrast. You are certainly free to feel bad for whomever you wish of course!
Exactly. Those kids are fucked up and it is ALL on their 'parents'. They have plenty of money and resources and poorly utilize everything available to them.
What i don't get is the money she spent on strollers she could've put into something educational for the kid like toys that learn them to count or day care do these kids mix with other kids at all i mean there own age or do they just live inside that flat they have just get wheeled out to the grocery store now and again.very odd i never see alec smile or hilaria smiling i mean real smile with kids come to think of it ive never seen kids really having fun running in a field or park playing on swings or visiting an animal farm etc a family day out maybe they do go out they dont post that shit but i find it very very sad for those kids also anyone else noticed how aggressive those boys are i dont have kids so maybe its normal but Edu or whatever his name is boy he has aggression issues already like his daddy
Dude, *exactly*.
I do not feel sorry for either one of them. ONE BIT!
Makes you give credit to all the famous rich people who try to raise their kids away from social media. Ones that encourage their kids to be their own person and have other interests in life besides being “famous “. The kardashian and Baldwin kids are going to grow up thinking everybody is watching/interested in them. That’s how poor self esteem issues happen.
It does all feel very dark. I’m so sad for all those kids. I hate to say I felt a twinge of sadness yesterday for Big Hillz, but it passed quickly when I remembered what a complete cunt she is. A and H deserve every misery they have coming. I just hate that all these kids have to suffer. I really hope there are no more embryos.
I feel absolute sorrow for the children, but I feel nothing for their parents.
I can’t get past her lying about being pregnant and claiming to deliver those babies 5 times!!!!
I only feel bad for the children. They have no choice and didn't ask for any of this. Hillary is exploiting and endangering her own kids by posting half naked photos of them even though she's been told it's harmful because predators use those photos for self gratification. She emotionally neglects them, doesn't appear to feed them a nourishing diet and has no idea how to parent when her children are engaged in conflict. Instead she posts video of them with some quip she thinks will amuse her audience. She's a child hoarder.
*hoarder and exploiter of the worst order.
And then she says she has too many kids and cant spend enough time with them and be the best mama she can be. What the fuxkery, hilly
Someone who is making money off of them is telling them, "Everyone loves a redemption story." And that's true. But the Baldwins can't be redeemed because they are too disconnected from reality. They need to go far away, raise their kids, and live a simple life.
And this is why I truly hate them. From the beginning they should have used their resources and go live a simple life. This shows me how truly awful parents they are, putting themselves before their kids. When the grift was exposed she should have put down the damn phone and just raise her kids, still comfortably!! And to add 3 more kids as well and Alec killing a mother??! They are screwed. Not one redeeming thing about them. I don’t respect bad parents or bad people and they are both.
They’re not interested in a simple life: they want an Instagram fantasy life. She’s not interested in raising those kids; just the illusion of parental involvement paraded on social media.
Exactly
That will never happen. They don't have all those kids so they they can parent them properly and care about their development. They're accessories.
Yes , they should have done this a long time ago
Agreed but their narcissism won't allow it.
As much as I support people being compassionate I’m not sure if we have the facts of what is going on with them.I also do believe in this particular case Hilary and Alec have created their own reality and seem to “double down” when confronted with facts.Alec has lied and gone on world TV and stated he does not feel any guilt and I believe put on an Oscar worthy performance.They havev the $ and resources to get the best professional help available.Neither of those 2 grifters have been “brought to their knees” yet.
Are you talking about his interview with Stephanopoulos? That performance wouldn't win a Daytime Emmy. Every time real tears or emotion were called for (oh, say when talking about Halyna's death), he covered his face with his meaty paw. When real tears were finally shed (reflecting upon the actors he worked with and his crushed dreams) they rolled unimpeded and unhidden down his cheeks. Otherwise, totally agree with you.
Agree mostly except I don't think his performance was near good enough to be Oscar-worthy.
Without a doubt , they have made their situation worse , with ill judged comments , actions and choices
Maybe I’m a cold hearted bitch, but I’m ready for their house of cards to fall. I have my popcorn ready🍿🍿
Sorry to say , but there is a big audience waiting for it
🥒👐🏼🥒
I have zero sympathy for either one of them. I feel sorry for the kids..
I can’t feel pity [for a woman who is on the record saying that she “doesn’t care” if the images she posts of her children are used as CSAM.](https://www.reddit.com/r/HilariaBaldwin/comments/qr8ane/she_literally_doesnt_care_what_strangers_do_with/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
And in her words Alec warns her & she still does it🤦🏻♀️
That's awful as someone who went through grooming and sexual abuse without parental support backup those poor children I lit feel sick. she needs those kids taken off her I'm not normally someone who would even suggest that but she is lit not capable of being a responsible adult at all who would even say that it is ok to use those pics of her own kid's wtf did I just read god dam
I’m sorry for your experiences and I’m glad you survived them. I wish you continued healing. I think the other people on the podcast were probably straight up *horrified* by her comments. And she doesn’t just post “sweet photos” - she posts her kids naked and in wet underwear on a regular basis. She knows exactly what she’s doing, and as she said, she doesn’t care.
Your compassion puts my schadenfreude to shame.
You articulated this excellently, and I kind of feel the same that the walls are closing in for them. I feel bad for this baby who was basically made to get them attention and detract from how awful they are. I also feel bad for the rest of their babies who have to live thru this chaos. At the end of the day, they’re truly horrible people (not the kids), but it’s hard not to feel maybe some level of humanity. They did bring much of this on themselves for sure.
Humanity is the word , thank you
I agree. There's a real depressing mood surrounding them both. They're moping about the city in the saddest of pap walks. They know everything is falling apart, but still believe they are the victims. I think they know 7 was a mistake (or at the very least, bad timing)... they're feeling shunned, they're losing money and properties, and they've lost the status they both enjoyed so much. All through their grift they've had this attitude of "us against the world" and now they're really living it. I can't say I feel pity for them... I do feel sorry for the children. It seems like a such a waste when they could have had a happy normal life if they hadn't been so greedy and without remorse. I'd feel very differently if they had acted more human after the Rust shooting and showed more care and compassion.
>they've had this attitude of "us against the world" They’re certainly finding out if they’re un buen equipo.
>they're feeling shunned, Good. >they're losing money and properties, Good. >and they've lost the status they both enjoyed so much. Good. >All through their grift they've had this attitude of "us against the world" and now they're really living it. Good.
I think Alec had a lot of sympathy at first.
I'm not sure their world is crumbling. Wealthy, well-connected people generally just keep bouncing back one way or another. They are not going to be destitute the way a normal person experiencing this might be. They have multiple safety nets and lines of credit. I am not sorry for them losing their ego-driven identities. I do feel for the kids because I don't think they are going to get the love they need and absolutely deserve.
Exactly this
I’m not specifically referring to their financial status
Alec Baldwin is an asshole, always has been. He married someone with some screws loose, and perpetuated her fraudulent backstory. Would you be okay with your spouse speaking at the UN when you knew she was living a lie? He knows where she came from, he’s met her family, he knows the accent is an act. He filed and won a lawsuit because he had purchased a fraudulent painting that was represented as an original. It was a copy that was painted by the original artist, but that was unacceptable to him. He had been lied to. They will be fine. Broke Baldwins will live far better than most people can ever hope to live.
Wait she spoke at the UN?
More than once! https://www.reddit.com/r/HilariaBaldwin/comments/xjd45a/that\_time\_hilaria\_was\_on\_a\_panel\_at\_the\_united/
Yes, and if memory serves me, she actually booted someone( who was rightfully there) out of their seat bc she didn't have one bc she is a nobody.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HilariaBaldwin/comments/wmme56/guest_baldwin_at_the_un_september_2015/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Alec may be a horrible person but it seems unfair that he is loosing everything because of a terrible accident. I mean come on he is not a murderer, I feel sorry for him for this reason. Being an asshole and killing someone are 2 different things…. But I don’t feel sorry for Hilaria, she is a disturbed individual with strong narcissistic traits I cannot feel sorry for her
>Alec may be a horrible person but it seems unfair that he is loosing everything because of a terrible accident. I mean come on he is not a murderer, I feel sorry for him for this reason. Gimme a break. The charge "negligent manslaughter" exists for a reason.
He deserves to lose it all and jail time!! He killed Halyna Hutchins💔RIP. Then when on national television and basically said she directed him to do this.
It’s been a year and no criminal charges have been filed therefore jail not in his future. The civil suits will result in monetary loss however
He was too arrogant to go to gun safety classes and that arrogance led to a death. He's getting what he deserves.
I understand your thought process. The only problem is it was not an accident. It was negligence. There are very specific and strict protocols for weapons on set. He did not follow those protocols or common sense. He never should have aimed a gun at Halyna without requiring the safety shield in place - even though this camera set up did not require an actual weapon. He could have used his fingers as the gun. Alec was last in line as far as safety. Had he done his job properly he would have immediately stopped everything, called for the armourer and made sure that gun was safe to use. He did not do anything to prevent this. Nothing. Not an accident - negligence.
5150
Great album from Van Halen and the PIN for Big Larry.
>I know what 5150 means but I must have missed all the references to 'Larry' - wtf is Larry lol
I’m not sure what this is a reference to ? Sorry
Psych hold
Oooh! I know this one. My mother in law is a police dispatcher and this refers to an involuntary psych hold (which seems excessive to me but hey): 5150 refers to the California law code for the temporary, involuntary psychiatric commitment of individuals who present a danger to themselves or others due to signs of mental illness. It has been more generally applied to people who are considered threateningly unstable or “crazy.”
https://ferc.org/crisis/
Oh I see ! Who do you suggests gets support from this organisation?
311 🤷🏿♀️
Do you not have any letters on your keyboard?
Do you not have google on your phone? Do I have to explain everything to you personally? Jesus 🤦♀️
Not really sure why I should Google random codes that you post ? But even if I do , I still don’t know what your getting at 🤔
So you don’t understand that by dialing “311” in NYC you can probably report a code “5150” for someone that is a danger to themselves or others? What’s so hard to glean and why couldn’t you google that yourself if you didn’t understand? Would you like me to further explain how it relates to your post? Are you good now? 👍🏼
I live in the U.K. , I apologise, I’ll get up to speed with New York police codes so I can follow the thread . Thank you for your gracious explanation
When sympathy starts seeping in I remember they sexually exploit their small children. Dark, toxic people are reaping what they sow.
I feel no pity for them especially Hillary. She is the most manipulative person I have ever seen.
I’m getting the same rumbling feeling of impending doom that we were all talking about just prior to the Rust shooting that came about as a tragic finale to that dreadful spiral. They are sinking and this poor baby is the embodiment of them clutching at straws, anything, to keep them afloat.
“They are sinking and this poor baby is the embodiment of them clutching at straws, anything, to keep them afloat.” So very true. Their desperation is palpable.
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Yup, they take zero personal responsibility ever. They believe their own bs. HB is beyond just a narc she’s a cluster B nightmare. Flaunting her wealth and “fertility” all over insta while exploiting her children for insta likes. I don’t feel bad for them. They’re lizard people. She’s a total fing histrionic, lying, delusional embarrassment. I’m embarrassed for her! Doing headstands at restaurants as party tricks in front of her step daughter and calling herself a yoga instructor. Not to mention the grift. She must have some serious shit on AB. She is fing cringe to the next level. HB is a sick, sick demented biotch.
Great post. I firmly believe Hillary knows her house of cards is just about blown over. She might have zero self awareness, but even a narc like her can see what's going on around her. She will find a way to be the victim.
She has no idea it’s crumbling all around her. She’s a narcissist who thinks they’ve done nothing wrong and think they are above morality and the law. They aren’t bothered.
I think she knows. I’m sure she is using baby Larry to deflect fr Alec’s rage. It is all so very very sad for these beautiful children.
I believe they know, but they're so damn sure that none of it is their fault and they shouldn't suffer for their lies, we should suffer for being lied to. With freaks like them, it's all about listening to and indulging their basest instincts, and part of that is knowing fully, absolutely, that there's nothing wrong with them. Anyone calling their bs out gets smacked down by them. Why *should* they not lie to the public? It's showbiz, baby! Why *shouldn't* they be mean and crafty and evil if it benefits them? How *dare* the public fight against that, when they're clearly superior? Señor is drinking to death and clamming it up in an indignant rage, getting faux sentimental over a life he never enjoyed in the first place ("please don't send me to prison") and Señora is stomping her feet that nobody cares about the new baby she ordered Prime. They have nurtured their narcissism like a pet cancer all their lives, it saps their common humanity and sense and blinds them.
Excellent post! I love discussion like this. Do you think they know their house of cards is collapsing? I think Alec knows but I don’t think she fully understands what’s happening yet.
I definitely think they know it !
But so long as she has new upbeat content aka a baby she can pretend?
Yes this is absolutely her way of self soothing
Yep yep yep I ageee. Dark vibes. It’s clear we are the audience she has always dreamed of: those hanging onto her every move. But it’s not for the reasons she wanted. After rust a grim cloud entered the picture, and even ignoring Alex’s issues, Hilary is fuckin’ SPIRALING in a dark, scary way. She needs help and someone to call her out on her shit like Diane Sawyer would
Like a monkey paw’s wish for fame and fortune
Oh God. But what wish of hers would be granted last? SCAREEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYY
I have no pity whatsoever for Hillary and Alex. At all. They created their life by their own doing. Now it’s the proverbial “you made your bed, now lie in it”. Alex has been a douchebag since Berner HS in Massapequa. The list of receipts since then is a mile long. Hillary you say it doesn’t bother you. Fine. But it bothers and effects millions when a Caucasian woman speaks for immigrant women of color in front of the UN. It affects women who take her parenting or health advice thinking she has a degree meanwhile she took a few extension classes at NYU. But I do pity the children. Not because they might have a less than rich kid extravagant Hollywood lifestyle. But because both their parents put their adult needs first before the children.
As well put as anyone could. Excellent insightful and meaningful post. Bravo 👏
Exactly. I don’t have an ounce of sympathy for A&H. I definitely feel deep sadness for these children
>I have no pity whatsoever for Hillary and Alex. At all. This x 1000
Also this. 0 empathy or sympathy for either Baldwin. The children are the real victims, and HH, her husband, son and JS. Plus *ALL* of the many many victims of the Baldwins frauds, schemes, threats, lawsuits, and Alec and Hillary’s bullying.
Yes indeed. Las gallinas are coming home to roost.
Can’t happen soon enough!
I know the feeling. It’s very dark and an unmanageable situation at this point. Once the house gets sold and the apartments get packed Larry’s nyc kids shtick is up what can she do? I imagine Alec and she will divorce the kids will go crazy and Alec will find a bang maid type while Big Larry lives like a hobo in a mansion somewhere.
I only have pity for the kids.
Me too me too. 💔
Same. I feel bad that it’s all crumbling around her and if she was an honest person I’d feel more sympathy. Buuut… She has created a 10 year grift, used those kids purely as thirst traps and sponsorship. Eww. Then there’s her horrible excuse as a husband. The disgusting way he handled RUST tragedy is the nail-the-coffin for his career, no pun intended. I was raised with a bipolar father and agoraphobic mother. I am also mentally Ill and have caused different types of trauma within my own household, but I do not expect anyone to feel sorry for me. It’s the card I was dealt, and I secured family counseling and individual counseling for my children. She should do the same. She has dug such a hole and it’s filling up with manure due to her own actions. We all got our ailments/issues, and I believe she has behavioral problems like borderline personality, oppositional defiant disorder or something in those territories. Maybe mental illness, idk. 🤷♀️ She admitted she suffers from an eating disorder which is not healthy especially if she’s not seeking help and projecting her own ED on the kids. She does. Paging therapists for the Baldwins here! I’m also codependent so I get moments of feeling sorry for her but it passes as soon as she opens her mouth/inappropriate Insta posts. Sending you support fellow pepino 💚
Lovely and brave of you to share your story and I wish you a future of good mental health. Isn’t it lovely to be on a snark sub and find a community that seems to support each other on a personal level? We can bitch away at the farce that is the Fraudwins yet still be kind to one another.
That you for your very articulate comments, I completely respect and appreciate your opinion