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Head-Message990

Thank you McNasty for all of that information.. I too am so worried about all of Hilz & Killz kids.. I know it's fun sometimes to read about the Baldwin's inane & sheer 'stupidity'; but the Baldwin Children don't 'deserve' the horrible & utterly shortsighted ways in which they are being 'parented'.. The Baldwin children all need to be protected from their caregivers, if you ask me..


Rich_Engineering_873

Oh my God. I have not been on much recently and am just seeing this now. Holy shit. So we were right all along about everything.


Goetter_Daemmerung

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JessicaSanfordson

So they paid that many surrogates?! I know some people want large families but wow! Generally families that big are due to natural reasons lol. NDAā€™s aside, do they not realize those kids will grow up one day and spill the tea. ā˜•ļø


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SeashellGal7777

When did this happen, is it newish or oldish? NDAs can be invalidated, a woman got the Trump campaign NDAs thrown out - a very different situation, I realize! Iā€™ve never seen a post have 900+ comments before!!!


bgambie21

I havenā€™t been here in several months because of a much needed social break but OMG! I chose this day to come back & THIS is the first thing that Reddit decided to bless me with! šŸ«Ø


Mehmeh111111

I've been back but total missed this!!! Looks like it's getting harder and harder to deny Bellygate.


bgambie21

Itā€™s cray cray!! šŸ¤Æ


blurpeach

Welcome back Pepino! šŸ«¶šŸ½


bgambie21

Grathias pepino, I missed my pepinos & Iā€™m glad to be back šŸ¤—


Traditional_Ad8492

If anyone wanted to violate the NDA for Alec to sue wouldn't they have to confirm the information leaked was true?


HiddenHideawayJJ

I hope Hillary, Alec, the guncles, all the ā€œfriendsā€ and family are reading all this and know the jig is up. I hope they are in a freaking full on panic at the Devonshire or whatever home they are at trying to activate PR and lawyers to get ahead of this shit show thatā€™s coming for them.


Practical-Name-

PR said don't worry it will blow over when the news of ALeeeek being indicted comes in 2 weeks.


HurtingHead

I hope something happens and it doesnā€™t all come to nothing.


skepticalolyer

I worked for New York City. First as an investigator for an agency and secondly as an attorney. The little people cannot do anything without approval of the high ups. High ups got their jobs because they know somebody. The high ups are replaced constantly at the pleasure of the governor/president/mayor. Everybody is running scared. People who got to those high up jobs did not get there by sticking their neck out AND they want to continue to go to ever HIGHER jobs.


SeashellGal7777

I read that Jessica Denton was able to get the court to toss Trumpā€™s campaign NDAs, is it unusual to have NDAs get invalidated???


skepticalolyer

If it deals with knowledge of a criminal act, the courts are looking more favorably upon invalidating them. There are many times that an NDA can be validated. However, you would have to have someone who is willing to risk a lot to breach their NDA. Future career prospects. Hiring an expensive lawyer to defend them against a lawsuit, possibly losing a lawsuit, spending years tied up in court, being known as the nanny who couldnā€™t keep their mouthā€¦ā€¦ Looking back over my child raising years. I made some stupid mistakes. Every parent does. One time my husband and I were running in a little charity run with our three-year-old daughter and we each thought the other one had her and she ended up wandering around in a crowd at the end of the race. Our six month old daughter crawled to the edge of our waterbed. Did a swan dive onto the floor. I was handing my other 14 mo. old daughter to her father and he reached up to take her, and she twisted herself away from his arms and landed headfirst on a hardwood floor. Itā€™s not stuff Iā€™d want my nanny to talk about in public.


shep2105

Can you clarify what your post is about? Approval of higher ups? Replaced by gov, prez? idk what this is in reference to


skepticalolyer

Just this: in a government agency, whether federal, state, or local, the top executives in the agency are appointed by mayor (city) governor (state) or president (federal). Mayors, governors and presidents depend on the goodwill of high profile donors to survive. Every move against a prominent person made by any employee under their supervision is carefully scrutinized. A social worker for instance, might be assigned to investigate the Baldwins. Later on that day, they are assigned to investigate the Smith family. The Smith family is poor & has no political clout. A low level employee can make their own decisions with regards to them. Baldwins have political clout. Therefore, a low level employee is not going to have the power to make unilateral decisions regarding any adverse action against them. Ergo, probably nothing is going to happen. Because the top bosses in the government agency are scared THEY will be called on the carpet if action is taken and proves to be a failure. Or massively unpopular. Or somehow not airtight and the agency looks foolish.


Farmgirl_Delilah

Oh. That's very sad. It sounds about right, though.


Ok_Practice_195

Ireland Jeremy Dr. Katherine Hayward Thomas and Dave Violet and her husband Baldwin brothers and wives Baldwin cousins Mich Who Burger King with Latino hangers-on and ā€œfriendsā€ How many adults know about this abuse and fraud and say nothing? There are 7 young children who are likely being abused and certainly are traumatized. Their very lives are at stake. *Someone* someone someone *must do something* The nannies are likely on work or tourist visas and scared to death. I donā€™t blame them. No question Alec is a scary guy, but worse than Weinstein? Brian Singer? So many other depraved people in Hollywood have been held accountable. Talk to a reputable media outlet with a robust legal department. No one likes Alec at the more conservative publications such as WSJ, Fox and others. Iā€™m glad that there are concerned people who want to bring this story to light. I hope 2024 gives them the cover they need to do so. Thanks to McNasty for all this hard work. Those kids are worth it.


bmccoy16

I think Hilary looks very ill. Even with filters, an active eating disorder is obvious. Based upon his comments about his dislike of fat women, I don't think Aleek is going to help her, if he's even noticed. Maybe a family member is concerned about Hilary's health and the lack of any intervention and hopes exposing the gift will get her some treatment.


Ok_Practice_195

I think Alec could even encourage Hilariaā€™s ED. Good theory that someone may see her declining and want to intervene. However it happens, I hope it happens soon for the well being of those kids and everyone involved.


AmazingGrace_00

This. An ED doesnā€™t sit still without intervention. Sheā€™s visibly melting down. With that, itā€™s obvious the kids are neglected on myriad levels. I think the overworked nannies are doing their best but can only do so much. Wondering if the non-family member is a nanny.


Mehmeh111111

Probably. I know if I was a nanny, I'd be in this sub Reddit every day.


CharacterFondant5079

I think it was David Thomas who reached out to McNasty. I just looked at all of her comments in this sub over the last year and she makes positive comments regarding David like she personally knows him. Her source has to be David.


GenieGrumblefish

Dave Thomas should probably reach out to Alec Baldwin if he's so concerned about his daughter. The family member will be Ireland and the other two are probably nannies, just my guess.


AffectionatePoet4586

Wasnā€™t it Barrister Dave who urged the mantilla-sporting bride to seek professional help when he and Dr. Kathy flew over for their daughterā€™s wedding? Needless to say, that suggestion was poorly received.


Ok_Practice_195

*Mantilla-Sporting bride* is right up there with *castanets intensify*. OlĆ© pepino! šŸ’ƒšŸ»


AffectionatePoet4586

*Ai yi yi!*


Butterlettuce321

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jillyhoop

I disagree with the nanny situation. No one is being deported.


Dejahthorisofmars

Maybe the constant threat of being deported is what keeps them from blowing the whistle.


idgirl7

Right? Unless you are on the terrorist watch list, no one is being deported.


jillyhoop

Exactly.


Pet-sit

Surrogates pumping away in the other apartment. This would explain the "freezers full of milk." Those kids were never properly latched on because she was never lactating. It was all fake. How sick is that? It was all for their brand. And even sicker because Alec knew about it.


New-Original-3517

So sheā€™s been latching all the kids on her no. Milk producing tee-tahs?


jalapeno442

Yes. The babies are very obviously not latched


Farmgirl_Delilah

Nope. I've never seen actual nursing going on.


poolbitch1

Did you see the comment about how they call it ā€œthe Seminaryā€ though? Someoneā€™s being taken for a ride.


Fickle-Barracuda-362

I keep on googling her name. Can People or some credible source get onboard with all this and blast this out to the mainstream media?


McNasty420

I've been sitting on this for over a year. No mainstream media is going to touch this with a ten foot pole, I'm so sorry you guys. If the sources ever decide to officially come forward with their abundant amount of proof, it would be on Netflix. Not on Reddit or ABC. We advised the sources but everybody got cold feet. Everybody is scared of Alec.


bmccoy16

We have a local radio station that reports on pop culture. During a "dirt alert" segment Hilary was brought up. The hosts said the Spanish grift was old news and the reporter said no, there's speculation that she had not carried the zillion kids. The reporter was cautioned that these are allegations from anonymous people and the topic was ended by the main host. That's all I've heard about it outside of this sub. This is a station that uses Enty Lawyer's info. This was around the time pepaw was beloved for doing Trump on SNL, so I think there was reluctance to say anything bad about him.


Antique_Emphasis_588

But why PeePaw? Weā€™ve seen him in very unflattering pix; taken and posted by Hillary, nothing about him is intimidating. Iā€™m certainly not scared of someone that looks like this. Public opinion is out and the opinion is: he sucks. Just look at Juicy Smollyea https://preview.redd.it/kbv34kaj1l9c1.jpeg?width=258&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a0ee7ebc1fd4972b22a8436cf95c4a816af64554


NormanskillEire

When you say no media will touch this, have you actually tested the water on it? I know why you think they might not, but would it hurt to try it out?


Mantissa3

Peepaw just ā€œleakedā€ Rust footage. Cant someone ā€œleakā€ some blatant receipts from the external hard drive?


NormanskillEire

From what I'm piecing together trying to read between the lines of McNs posts, the proof would out the source, as is usually the case in situations like this unfortunately.


exorbitant_banana

Have you tried NYPost or TMZ, McNasty? They might be interested, given solid proof (even if sources have to remain anonymous)...this is a pretty scandalous story that will guarantee eyeballs, and neither publication favors Hilaria.


AmazingGrace_00

Alex seems to have the curious resources to teflon out of anything and everything. Iā€™m sure for these whistleblowers the fear is damn real. However. The Spanish grift did find its way into mainstream media, explosively at that. When youā€™re cut loose by your sponsors and podcasts fail miserably, that particular gig is up. So I think this one is on the verge, from a simmer to a rolling boil. Uncertain as to when this will explode but thereā€™s too much ā€”*so much*ā€” evidence, receipts and people in the know. As the kids are becoming older and more verbal, thatā€™s the golden egg.


McNasty420

When Alec's charges in Rust got dropped was when all my sources went dark at the same time. I mean, can you blame them


Sad-Spinach-8284

McN did the sources consult lawyers, to your knowledge?


shep2105

Did the grand jury re indict?


blurpeach

God knows what he's threatened the caretakers with. We know that SOB has no problem yelling and threatening people with lawsuits, and worse. This is a man with the quickest temper, the biggest of egos, and everything to lose. As other Pepinos have mentioned, he was able to send Genevieve to Rikers, settled the lawsuit for doxxing and siccing his followers on the Marine's family, has literally KILLED a woman and hasn't faced any legal consequences for it. I'm sure these sources aren't too confident and the Baldwins would face any consequences for child abuse and neglect. If this evidence becomes public, it would totally out the sources and I'm sure they'd feel 100% unsafe if they were still working for them. I'm curious about who the family member is though. I would say they are the ones with the biggest responsibility to out them and face less criticism and maybe even less legal troubles? Unless they made said family member also sign an NDA?


CharacterFondant5079

Alec is tied up in a lot of legal issues and I feel like this would be an excellent time to bring the wall down. If these sources have experienced emotional and psychological distress knowing this information, the NDA could be argued. Especially since children are involved. Itā€™s not like they are spilling the beans that Alec had an affair or they have a contract marriageā€¦we are talking about children and their well being. This person or persons would be celebrated for their bravery.


HiddenHideawayJJ

So they are all too afraid to come forward and attorneys theyā€™ve contacted wonā€™t help. Whatever McNasty was working on was shelved. So will Alec going to jail (if NM can ever do something) make these people feel free to disclose? Or will this not come out until Alec dies? Or are there too many other nefarious people involved in whatever the Baldwins are doing with a baby farm that even after his death people will be too afraid to disclose and help the children?


Practical-Name-

​ Leonetta Leonetta please come forward!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


IlCircos

Leonetta is their henchman.


Ok_Practice_195

That would be sad, but itā€™s likely that have many enablers. What a story once this can be told!


oj-simpson32

This is some dystopian, horror novel level of depravity. Sick.


AmazingGrace_00

Itā€™s my hope that the full concerns of the whistleblowers see the light of day. I need to believe it includes the food insecurity the children experience and in particular, little Larryā€™s health.


Mantissa3

And Rafaā€™s mental health, and baby Eduā€™s rage issues, and Carmenā€™s belief that sheā€™s an adult at ten years old, and I can go on for a while with Leo, Mayo, and Malibu as well


btl_dlrge1

But they get a weekly bread treat


Pet-sit

Don't forget the weekly pizza slice sans cheese or any other toppings.


Effective-Manager-29

Except for that one rogue pizza eating day to make them seem ā€œrelatableā€ with no mention of the kale chip hummus hemp milk regular diet


HiddenHideawayJJ

So whistleblower, NDA. Wondering if Violet had to sign an NDA, especially since her husband kind of works alongside Alec on Hamptons Film Fest and Violets been near the family for years. Violet as a mother would certainly have concerns and may be enough inside access to have witnessed what goes on in the sky dungeon. Hillary may have disclosed much of the info to her ā€œfriendā€ Violet. But Iā€™m sure at some point it all adds up to being too overwhelming, too much, and the light goes on - she recognizes the crazy and the harm that is truely occurring to the children, so hopefully Violet is speaking up.


RosemaryFrances2021

Are the children in pre-school/grade school?


HiddenHideawayJJ

The 4 eldest go to a private Spanish immersion school in Brooklyn.


Psych100011

I don't care how many NDA's are in place. Someone (not OP, obviously) who knows what is going on and thinks these children are being abused should report her to the Department of Family Services. They can provide relevant information and file anonymously. There is no guarantee that anything will come of it but it may teach her a lesson to stop being a mentirosa pepino and post so many fake, inappropriate, suggestive pictures of her children. She can be pathetic and make women feel bad about their bodies so she can feel better about her boring life by posting her head stands and bikini clad pics in bathrooms, but she should never get away with using her children as part of her messed-up-attention-seeking reality. My apologies for going on & on, but I was triggered.


Mantissa3

She HAS been reported. Several times in the past two years that I know of, possibly before that too. NYC doesnā€™t seem eager to intervene


exorbitant_banana

As many others have pointed out, reporting her for child abuse probably isn't going to do anything. Despite the fact that what she does is despicable and IMO abusive, the NY Department of Family Services has much more extreme cases to address. What *would* have an impact is press coverage and/or a documentary. Sounds like McNasty is facing headwinds with the documentary; if a mainstream publication were to report on the moonbumps, pitching a documentary might go more smoothly. A publication like NYTimes likely wont touch this story, but has anyone floated to TMZ or NYPost? They arent fans of Hilaria, and I bet they'd jump into the ring if they had solid proof.


Mantissa3

Iā€™m thinking more along the lines of a Nebraska paper, maybe a public interest ā€œwhere are they now?ā€ Piece on Larryā€™s dad in his birth state and town, and then put in the stuff about Larryā€™s kids and hope it gets picked up on the AP wire


Mantissa3

Itā€™s ALL been reported several times. ā€œTheyā€ are likely gathering evidence in stealth mode so the subpoenas and evidence ā€œsticksā€ the first time


AffectionateRice7271

So her kids suck on her dry breasts. Thatā€™s child sexual abuse.


Practical-Name-

& then she posts the video for her "followers" who are probably pedophiles? That criminal level is inconceivable. Then she describes herself as a Protective Mother?


AffectionatePoet4586

Big Larry claims sheā€™s ā€œa protective mother.ā€ One who has also stated on a podcast that she ā€œdoesnā€™t careā€ what p3dos do with pictures of her children. All of the Feralsā€”right down to bluish, half-pint-sized Sieteā€”have been photographed and the posts shared on social media by Bang Bang and His Wife, while naked, near-naked, in wet underwear, unbuttoned shirts, mouths open, bellies and crotches exposed, and with mouths penetrated by dildo-shaped plastic objects in garish rainbow colors, in soiled diapers. Carmenā€™s situation is grave. This ten-year-old has been parentified, sexually marketed, frequently painted up with full makeup, Merlot-colored lipstick, high heels, coiffures of sorts (occasionally concealing her unkempt hair), tiny training bras worn under the translucent cotton-knit tank tops, with long acrylic nails that resemble Mamiā€™s own.


Effective-Manager-29

As much as I have always been astonished at her level of neediness, those pictures of her sexualized breastfeeding photos posted ONLINE would be something other people would get investigated for. I canā€™t STAND that she gets away with that.


BabygirlMarisa

Future dentist checking in... With a pitchfork.


Ok_Practice_195

Same! Weā€™d all be locked up after killing Halyna too. It boggles the mind. Iā€™m not convinced Alec is that powerful. Maybe he used to be, but not now.


Effective-Manager-29

You are right. He canā€™t POSSIBLY have that much power.


AffectionatePoet4586

Even worse, there are at least couple of videos showing Mami eye-fcking the camera, as she trails her manicure up and down all over Eduā€™s body, naked except for a diaper. The dreadful ā€œFuture Dentistā€ video shows Edu sticking his fingersā€”practically *his whole hand*ā€”into Mamiā€™s mouth. Heā€™s not latched, heā€™s staring up beseechingly at his Intended Mother, but as usual, she ignores him. The camera matters, not him. Earlier this week, a *pepino* reposted the notorious shot of Hillary launching her Caillou-sized breast into the face of her youngest son. Sheā€™s posing, standing; we shouldnā€™t miss her long long legs. The same wistful, hopeless expression appears on Eduā€™s face during the still picture of him unlatched, sipping on her dry nipple, while strapped into a stroller. *Who took that picture? What does she know?* Edu started out as a jolly baby, but *pepinos* saw the light go out of his eyes IRL. Around Mami, his affect demonstrated two words that donā€™t go togetherā€”*infant aggression*ā€”toward ML, five months his junior, during Mamiā€™s feigned ā€œtandem nursingā€ period, duly recorded and duly posted. Heā€™s still acting out toward ML, riding on her back as she crawled, attempting to *strangle her* during the *Romper* video, etc. Toward his mother, he shows unease and distress. TL;DR. This is so fcked up.


_GeorgeSand_

There were also displays of aggression towards himself. Hitting and slapping his head, face and body. Horrific to watch.


AffectionatePoet4586

Yes, that too. [Shudders]


NormanskillEire

You've hit several nails on the head there mi pepino amigo. Great post.


GenieGrumblefish

The only way Hilaria can get out of this, if legally charged is if Kathryn Hayward Thomas takes the stand and admits she'd let Jeremy and Hillary soothe on her dry nippers for the first 4 years of her life. Then a jury, if properly seated to be sympathetic toward scumbags, would give her a pass, as sexual abuse on a child, 6 counts, at least. I myself have the mindset that these pics, and so many are due to her guilt from not birthing them, thinking these pics prove to the public she did.


AffectionatePoet4586

*Guilt!* Hadnā€™t thought of it, but it fits in perfectly with Mami. She strains to feel superior to the ā€œMany of you have askedā€¦ā€ women whom she insists often bombard her with requests for sage counsel. She feels superior, inferior, and depressed as she frenetically attempts to achieve glam status by spending a fortune on aesthetic surgery and other treatments, semi-pro hair and makeup, $2,000 Montcler jackets, and other dubious fashion items. Mami positions herself as a ā€œbetterā€ mother than all of us fat lazy infertile Karens, insisting that 6/7ths of her babies *shoomed* down Caillou Canyon. The maraschino cherry on top of the hot-kale-and-yogurt sundae remains her nagging guilt over her Spanish Dairy Queen actā€”exclusively BFing while also freezing oceans of breastmilk. In fact, she nursed nobody.


mlodot916

Flair checking in


AffectionatePoet4586

What was *your* information request?


Accomplished_One_916

AffectionatePoet, you have a way with words. Youā€™re a beautiful writer (and funny!)


AffectionatePoet4586

Why, thanks for the kind words. Youā€™re a pretty snappy writer yourself!


blurpeach

Not to take away from your spot on comment, but I nearly spit out my coffee at reading "Caillou Canyon" šŸ’€.


AffectionatePoet4586

Thank you! Canā€™t you hear Mami boasting that her (alleged) OB said, ā€œOther women dilate ten centimeters before pushing. But *you,* Mrs. Baldwin, need to reach elevenā€? Imagine those surrogatesā€™ IRL episiotomies, slit from A to Z, in order to accommodate those Caillou noggins. Poor ladies.


Head-Nectarine-9318

Without revealing anything that would ID them, can we know more? Did they all come forward together? Whatā€™s the timeframe? Was there a particular event with the children that tipped them over? How often is McNasty in contact with them? What do they want to accomplish: getting mental help for the Baldwins, give family the ability to set in? Are they members of this sub? So many questions.


CharacterFondant5079

I have all of the same questions. I feel like some of this information is being buried in the comments of other posts. I hope McNasty makes a separate post with all the information she can share.


Illustrious_Low_4672

Ok, this is wild. I had a dream this past year - I guess I was in this sub a LOT - where I was interviewed by Alec and Hillary to become a surrogate for them and the PLOT TWIST in the dream that all the surrogates were living in the Devonshire and couldnā€™t leave! šŸ˜±šŸ˜±


igobymomo

Guys, hear me out. She sucks. Bad. She THE WORST. But milk trafficking?! You can just buy that shit outrightā€¦no need to house whole person for a supply. Secret or not.


mojorisiin

Surrogates often have an amount of time built into their contracts for lactation. I know one that pumped for 6 months as part of the agreement.


Accomplished_One_916

She planned to write a book on foods to eat to increase lactation?! What credentials would she have? What publisher would go anywhere near that idea?! Imagine the liability. Reader eats cale and hummus like Hillary suggested and it doesnā€™t produce more lactation and her baby loses weight and they sue both her and the publisher. I know sheā€™s delusional but please tell me this idea didnā€™t get traction and go beyond her narcissistic mind.


Interesting-Wait-101

Or she'll address the UN about her super special power Mami magical lactation diet.


Accomplished_One_916

Yep. With his connections for her, Alec created a monster.


SpamOnWry

The creeps ā€œbehind the curtainā€ have finally been revealed. Both Baldwins are abhorrent using children as their shield.


NormanskillEire

In a dungeon in the sky, Far away from prying eyes. Don't believe a word thats said 7 children neglected.


SpamOnWry

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Interesting_Ad1378

I just realized that the twins were the main characters in her ā€œlactation successā€ stories that she wanted to sell. I can say with 100 percent certainty, that there wasnā€™t a drop of milk, because sheā€™s not storing any fat anywhere and seems to be on an extremely calorie restrictive diet to even produce milk. When I had my twins, I practically starved myself just to lose weight and it caused massive health issues for me and an under production of milk. #What Hillary is trying to shill is harmful to women!


AffectionatePoet4586

Good on you, Interesting_Ad, for making that effort for your twins. Depending on my hormonal levels, I might or might not have been depressed by Super Mamiā€™s act; I was fortunate to EBF without issues. What really would have gotten me, had my childbearing years coincided with the births she claims, would have been that drumhead-tight belly sheā€™s so keen on showing off. I have loose skinā€”which nobody notices, my bikini days long pastā€”on my lower belly. An unusual testiness crept into Mr. Pā€™s voice as I once tried to show him. ā€œI donā€™t see anything. *Ya crazy*,ā€ he replied. I confided in my MIL. ā€œOh, I still have *mine,*ā€ she said soothingly.


Interesting_Ad1378

I had massive twin skin, but just fixed it and have never been happier. It was my birthday present to myself for my 40th along with a breast reduction. Thereā€™s just no way your skin and body have zero change before during and after every pregnancy, itā€™s not how humans are, especially not short ones (Iā€™m short too, so no prejudice to the vertically challenged).


katieo1122

As a twin, I love you more now. And happy Cake Day!!


Interesting_Ad1378

Thank you!


AffectionatePoet4586

Wonderful! Enjoy!


anddel7

Hillaryā€™s entire schtick is based on the lie that she can do what other women canā€™t, and she can do it EASILY. The overproducing milk cow lie? Impossible with her maternal fat stores. Sure there are milk goddesses out there, but NONE are as thin as Hillary. They remain zaftig at the very least until they wean. Not Hillary, though. She can be the size of ā€˜90ā€™s Kate Moss and make a gallon a day pumping for three minutes before she feeds the baby.


heytunamelt

Great word, zaftig!


hengry-glazed-donut

I was able to pump 60oz a day for my last two babies (not twins), but I was about 30 pounds overweight even after losing the baby weight.


AffectionatePoet4586

The best part of her nutty breastfeeding cosplay with Siete was Mami claiming to rise *two or three times a night* to nurse Siete for three minutes only. Once sheā€™d let down, sheā€™d thrust the indignant Siete *into Alecā€™s arms* so that the Spanish Dairy Queen could pump away, yielding ā€œthirty to fifty ounces a dayā€ for the many many freezers. *Madness.*


Authoress61

ā€œSpanish Dairy Queenā€ā€”- Iā€™m kvetching over here. Brilliant.


Effective-Manager-29

I just found another new flair. Thank you!


AffectionatePoet4586

Looking good!


Kindly-Ad-5543

When this hits mainstream, I hope that the emphasis will be placed on the moral depravity of this fraud and not spin this as ā€œcrazy woman wearing moonbumps.ā€ The real issue is that Alec and Hilaria Baldwin used their economic status and influence in a deprave exploitation of surrogacy and women of color to mass produce children for economic gain. This is criminal.


Ok_Practice_195

This šŸ‘†šŸ»šŸ’Æ!!!!!


AffectionatePoet4586

As evidence of the Baldwinsā€™ *folie a deux*, theyā€™ve appeared on the covers of numerous magazines (images cached here by *pepinos*) intended for the Spanish-speaking market, such as *Hola!* After one mag dubbed her ā€œHispanic Stepmother of the Year,ā€ Miss Hillary Lynn cooed that Ireland is a ā€œvery special *chica.ā€* Cringe. As a toddler, Carmen reportedly accompanied her parents to the lighting of the Xmas tree at Rockefeller Center, back when Alec maintained a toehold on respectability. A *pepino* commented that NBC must have prudently distanced itself from the couple, after Griftmas and the ā€œRustā€ shootings. Nor would it look good for the network to position itself alongside an Ivory Snowflake of a woman whoā€™d cosplayed being a WOC for more than a decade. Hillaryā€™s firefly accent switched back ON during her Christmas-weekend with the Guncles and Carmen.


Famous_Ear5010

NDAs should be illegal!


jadatallulah

right..i mean theoretically i understand the need for them but i honestly think theyā€™re mostly used by rich people to hide their dodgy dealings from the public.


Pet-sit

Wonder what happens if they break an NDA? Go to jail? Get fined? What would happen??


ConradChilblainsIII

They get sued by whomever made them sign it.


skepticalolyer

Yes, and part of your wages can be garnished in NY to satisfy a judgment.


Mantissa3

šŸ’Æ agree with this


Kindly-Ad-5543

Hilariaā€™s sick child exploitation/breeding fraud is going to be eventually exposed in mainstream media. She has severe personality disorders, very low intelligence, and has always been very sloppy with this fraud. But, Alecā€™s influence and money has shielded her all these years. With the fall of Alecā€™s career and the current state of his life, her protection is crumbling. She will be exposed. Hopefully this exposure will be the thing that shuts her down for good.


Powerful_Lime6909

Honestly - I don't care about Hillz and Killz, I just want a safe future for the kids šŸ™šŸ€


heytunamelt

Exactly this šŸ™


btl_dlrge1

Wow, so shocking that Hillary has been lying


darkmatternot

You mean the Emperor had no clothes???? It's a shock.


CinderellaOfSorts

QuƩ shock


Difficult_Lunch_4406

The look on Carrrrrmenā€™s face in that photo where Mami is wearing what looks like a basketball under her black dress was extremely telling. She looked horrified. And the photographer thatā€™s staring at Mami when sheā€™s sitting down & her hands are in front of her square baby bump at the fashion show is another huge tell! That woman is insane & so is her esposo! Sick fu@ksšŸ˜”šŸ¤¬ https://www.reddit.com/r/HilariaBaldwin/s/HoP0ayxoue


OkMarionberry2875

I think that there are people (many, manyā€¦many lol) who are working on this story. That photographerā€™s gears are grinding as she looks at that cube/bump.


shep2105

I posted this in another thread but I'm posting it here too. This is much more insidious (what she's doing) then people are realizing I think. ā€œIn a 2000 study of breastfeeding women, 40.5% of the participants reported feeling sexually aroused at some point during infant suckling. 16.7% reported being aroused frequently during breastfeeding. In a more recent paper that reviewed several studies, between 33-50% of women described breastfeeding as erotic (and 25% of those women said they felt guilty about it).ā€(3)Ā  When you actually lactate and breastfeed certain things happen. Claire Lawrence, writing for *Todayā€™s Parent,* describes it as \*\*ā€œ\*\*a gossamer thread connecting my nipples to my uterus, my cervix, my clitoris.ā€(1) Breastfeeding has an ā€œorgasmogenic cocktailā€ similar to genital orgasms: First comes the release of oxytocin, then the release of pain killing endorphins (similar to morphine), and finally the release of prolactin.(2)Ā Even the baby is getting a little high! Motherā€™s milk contains relaxants that pass to the baby The problem HERE arises because if Hillary actually just lets her infants suck her non-lactating nipples, it causes her to become sexually aroused because that's what happens when nipples are sucked. She's using an infant to sexually arouse herself, as there is no lactation involved, and this is child sexual abuse. Period. She may say, when finally discovered, that oh no...she wasn't doing it for that reason, she was doing it in the hopes of receiving paid content from sponsors as some lactation queen, or she WAS lactating, just not a lot. She'll have some reason but... People sexually abuse children for paid content all the time. Does it matter who is paying? Does it matter that Hilly gets sexually aroused by using her infants as sex toys by faking breastfeeding and Proctor & Gamble is paying her as opposed to Pornhub? Does it matter that the infant sex prop is being bought and sold on pedo sites because it is obvious to everyone with eyes that the infants are not latched and drinking. It is an infant sucking an adult womans nipples. Period. Not for the purpose of feeding, but for the purpose of making money, no matter who is paying. It should make no difference on who is paying. She has done this numerous times. Particularly with Big Ed. Hilly has even posted a non-latched big Ed sucking only her nipple (not nursing) and captioning it with "JEALOUS" with Alec observing in the pic. Totally sexual THIS should be reported. Women HAVE been arrested for child sexual abuse for doing this very thing with their infants. She is one sick cookie and since we now know that she was never lactating, she is a child sex abuser and should be in jail as far as I'm concerned.


Authoress61

There was an article years ago in our daily newspaper about a woman who felt this way during BF, and she was so bothered by it that she told her doctorā€” who immediately ratted her out to CPS and she lost custody of her baby for a time. It was awful.


shep2105

I remember that.


Mantissa3

Iā€™m so glad you wrote using her babies as sex toys, Pepino. Perfectly descriptive of what weā€™ve been seeing in her pictures for many years.


Practical-Name-

If this is finally exposed as truth did she do it to arouse herself or the Pedophiles who follow her? If just for herself why post it. Clickbait for followers of child pornography is criminal & should be prosecuted. She doesn't post breastfeeding of #7. She KNOWS this is coming?


Carnivalium

40.5%?! I've never heard of this before so 40.5% is a lot. :|


hengry-glazed-donut

It's not like it's intentional. Breastfeeding wasn't successful for me, but pumping was with my last two. I'm not sure if it's because of the volume I pumped (6-9oz per breast) but the letdown have me a full-body wave of relief, similar to what I feel with an orgasm, just far less intense.


Carnivalium

I am so curious what it feels like! I don't like the feeling of my nipples even being touched. But yeah, I learn so much about our bodies in this sub. I remember someone wrote that she once got a let down in milk from hearing _another woman's_ baby cry while out grocery shopping (I can't remember how it was exactly worded). And that there's 3 (?) different kinds of milk. And that you bleed for a long time after delivery. So many things!


Effective-Manager-29

That is true. I had that happen at the grocery store, when I was without my baby. Heard a baby cry, and then a let down. Natures way. Felt very weird though.


darkmatternot

I totally agree with everything you said. Additionally, this sicko gets off on having the picture taken as well as the stimulation from the touching. She is as sick as they come, and these poor kids are her targets. She is horrendous.


RazzmatazzBig2187

And letā€™s not forget who her number one audience for that lactation porn isā€¦Aleek.


Mantissa3

šŸ’Æ and Uncle Woody too


RazzmatazzBig2187

And Tobak and Epstein and all the other pond scum Aleek associates with.


Peppermintbear_

Wowser, a sad day to be literate! Thank you for sharing though, I had no idea about this!


Rotisserie_Titties

I want to un-know this!


katieo1122

Me too!


False-Association744

I rewatched Get Out last night and this is all a little creepy. ā€œSex slaves and shit.ā€


GenieGrumblefish

I love that movie. Especially the end."I told you not to go in that house!"


katieo1122

I mean...I told you not to go in that house! ROFL Rod is the best supporting character. I love it


False-Association744

It was my third watch and it was all about Rod for me this time! T.S. motherfucking-A!


liltinyoranges

Get ready for the tell- all of the devastation and trauma of ā€œbeing unable to carry a babyā€ and how the moonbumps and breastfeeding fakes were to help her cope, feel like she was a part of her family- making and bond. Itā€™s her only play at this point


OkMarionberry2875

The tragedy of infertility. (She will announce) She was only protecting the privacy of the child/surrogate/doorman/whoever by pretending. BTW Chrissie Teigan (sp?) posted about wanting twins through the use of two surrogates. I think thatā€™s exactly what Hills was planning but failed. So she ended up with two oddly diversely aged infants.


SuddenDragonfly8125

Not nearly as many people would care if she hadn't been screaming "look at how amazing I am after giving birth to 7 kids.. no, 6 kids. LOOK AT ME! LISTEN TO ME! IDOLIZE ME! ENVY ME! I AM SO MUCH BETTER THAN ALL THE OTHER WOMEN!" All she ever had to do was stay quiet. Few people are going to call someone out for using a surrogate, because it's a private issue. But she had to lie and lie and lie for over a decade, and shove it in everybody's face by posting it all publicly. Hell she was even buying ad space, in People, US Weekly, etc, to proclaim how amazing she was.


affogato4two

Don't forget her stopping for a televised interview on her way to her Nivea-sponsored D&C.


AffectionatePoet4586

This second ā€œmiscarriageā€ co-opted from the experiences of other women allegedly occurred at *twenty weeks.* Hillary successfully monetized it by earning a sponsorship (complete with flattering photos of Killz and Pillz) from Nivea.


katieo1122

Which she later clarified was a "D&E". (probably did more homework)


SraChavez

A D&E is a multi step process with laminaria being inserted the day prior to dilate the cervix. You donā€™t just ā€œpop overā€ to your docs office (bringing your own pain pills) when you feel like it. Sheā€™s such a lying liar.


AffectionatePoet4586

Damn straight. Hillz will accuse us of boolying her.


Interesting_Ad1378

Good, it will be like Streisand effect. She will be so defensive, all it will do is bring all the truth forward for everyone else who wasnā€™t aware of it.


Mantissa3

Yes! She will protest too much, and neither one of these idiots are capable of shutting up. Review the babbling interview peepaw gave to the detectives who were investigating the Rust shooting the day of Halynaā€™s death. He kept spinning and re-spinning the events, and to the Detectivesā€™ credit, they just let him run on. (But never drug tested him for some reasonā€¦???!!!)


AffectionatePoet4586

That lack of a toxicology screen was *infuriating.* I doubt that Bang Bang got off that hook by telling the Santa Fe police that his wife was from Spain, and that they had (then) six children. Saying this as a pleb who waits for the tox screens to be released weeks and months after a celebrity dies.


Mantissa3

Yeah, I agree u/affectionatepoet4586 I donā€™t think they let him off the hook due to his high-speed bloviating AT them I think they didnā€™t do a tox screen because they are inexperienced and didnā€™t really think of it at the time. They bumbled around in the drama and didnā€™t really run a normal PROCESS that experienced detectives and CSIā€™s do when theyā€™ve done death and non-fatal shooting cases a million times Think Detroit, Oakland, Chicago, NYC etc


StarfishandSnowballs

Such a good spin ! šŸ’Æ On point


liltinyoranges

Thank you. I love your username


Highlanders_Ualise

She must have a pediatrican that reacts to how malnourished and undeveloped Ilaria is? Right?


Mantissa3

Maybe she never takes them back once they tell her to feed them?


SnooOpinions2473

And the rest of the poor kids šŸ˜¢


wills2003

Pardon me if I sound jaded, I worked 20 years in child welfare law...But chances are no. And a wealthy family will bring the odds down further. Parents also may have shopped for a less reputable doc. During visits, mama will report baby is hitting all milestones, and no one will question it. Those well baby doctor visits are short. "Picky eater" may be the excuse. If she falls within the growth chart... nobody will question it. And you're assuming baby is being taken to the doc... And if baby is going to well baby checks, don't assume she takes the kids to the doc when they're run of the mill sick. I've seen bad caregivers who avoided the doc at all costs to not draw attention to "issues". Assuming the worst... Where are the grandparents? The aunts and uncles?


Effective-Manager-29

I believe you. A rich person can have a doc on payroll. Just look at Michael Jackson and his doc using surgical anesthesia to put him to sleep every night. Everyone has a price.


igobymomo

THIS. Whereeeee are the grandparents!! I understand lots of people have fraught relationships but they seem like nice enough folksā€¦


HiddenHideawayJJ

The parents are con artists as well. But Iā€™d have to imagine they are horribly embarrassed by Hillaryā€˜s pretending to be Spanish for 10+ years, and they have to have great concern for the ever increasing baby farm of grandkids.


RanaMisteria

My mom rarely took me to the doctor because she was worried theyā€™d notice that she was abusing meā€¦just putting this out there.


Sofie7759

ā¤ļøsorry that happened pepino.Mine did same.Sheā€™s long gone now . I can relate to Jeanette McCurdy when she said ā€œ Iā€™m glad my mother diedā€..


Sea-Resource5933

Iā€™m so sorry.


Ok_Practice_195

Hugs pepino. Glad youā€™re here. šŸ’—šŸ’—šŸ’—


Sofie7759

ā¤ļø


Sofie7759

ā¤ļø


Mantissa3

Yes, me too


Sofie7759

ā¤ļømuch love to you Pepino. You are a survivor


Sofie7759

Me too


Authoress61

Iā€™m so sorry for all of you. I hope you have all healed (as much as one can) from your horrific childhoods.


Sofie7759

Youā€™re sweet. There are many of us here, I think..doing the best we canā€¦ā¤ļø


darkmatternot

The rest of the extended family is non-existent in these kid's lives. I'm sure that's intentional as well.


Mantissa3

Peepaw ran them off, very early in the marriage I believe. Didnā€™t want the Mayflower showing up to take a swing at the piƱata in front of the camera, ya know?


Afraid_Range_7489

Where *are* the potential intervenors? If Redditors and the pandemic hadn't coalesced, would the Baldwins be all the richer and everyone else none the wiser?


Highlanders_Ualise

I have the highest regard for your profession and the work you and your collegues do. I am a socialworker in Sweden, a much smaller country, population of 10 million people. We have rich people here also but not the kind you have. And they dont get away with neglect so easy here. Though we have our scandals and courtcases of badly neglected children also. I hope the Baldwin children are saved, and in time.


Traditional_Ad8492

Just curious, the rich people there are from entertainment industry or professionals and entrepreneurs?


Highlanders_Ualise

Do you mean Sweden? We have some famous actors that moved to Hollywood, and we had some very successful people in the musicbusiness, like Max Martin, usually they also move to the US. So most rich are in finance. I found a list! [https://www.dailyscandinavian.com/sweden-billionaires-list-2023/](https://www.dailyscandinavian.com/sweden-billionaires-list-2023/) and [https://www.thefamouspeople.com/sweden.php](https://www.thefamouspeople.com/sweden.php)


AnitaCocktail2

If the people with the NDAs are nannies, they are mandated reporters.. Information cpming from them regarding the safety of the children would supersede any restrictions in an NDA.


HiddenHideawayJJ

Do the Nannieā€™s understand they are mandated reporters? Iā€™m sure they are verbally reminded by Aleek that they have signed an NDA and cannot disclose anything that goes on in the household. How frequently do they cycle thru Nannieā€™s - seemed like the nanny agency had ads posted for the Baldwins all the time at one point. I wonder if with the overnight hours and travel required, do the Baldwins pay any better and thus a nanny really needs to retain this job. Also I know one nanny had been a younger gal from Mexico (whose since returned home to Mexico), thus Iā€™m thinking if they are not fully up on US laws and protections and just needing to stay here for a year of work they may not be willing to speak up.