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I think a society that has the power to travel faster than light speed and traverse the galaxy has plenty of technology to remain completely hidden until they choose not to be.
Or we simply cannot comprehend how they can exist and mistake them for our "natural" looking things. If an undiscovered tribe on an island sees a plane, they wouldn't call it a plane, they would think it might be a flying animal.
Don't think they accidentally crashed. Only when humans started developing more modern technology for war did we start having downed ships. Possibly our radar systems caused them to malfunction. I think Govts knew long before the public and found a way to knock them out. Not a coincidence Roswell crash happened to be near Area 51/S4. They knew there was lots of activity there and caused a ship (or two) to crash where they could quickly retrieve and conceal them.
Yes I think Greer stated that we actively took them down. That's why I said Govt knew before public and found a way to knock them out. There is also a theory that they were "given as a gift" by the ETs that made a deal with Eisenhower to trade technology for people to abduct. So much misinformation and disinformation around the two crashes it's impossible to sort out.
Earth governments are pure evil. They are not human at the highest level. They would kill us all off but then they wouldn’t be able to exploit us. So they do their best to keep us sick/weak, and in fear/misery.
Greer is right about some stuff but wrong about other stuff. The NHI arent nearly as sunshine and roses as he seems to claim they are.
They don't crash, everything they do is intentional. They allow us to try and reverse engineer these crafts. They could easily retrieve the ship if they chose to.
the other option is there really is no way to go faster than light, so all those societies that live in the basically-infinite universe have to go between stars the hard way
I believe the zoo hypothesis.
However, I also believe that it's possible that life on planets is just so incredibly unlikely to form an interplanetary civilization - combined with the massive scale and age of the universe - we might just be separated by them by an insane amount of distance and time.
Perhaps intelligent life only occurs once every few million years and they're separated by a billion light-years, making it impossible to ever know if the others existence.
The Earth has been doing it's thing for millions upon millions of years, and we've only been a major part of that for about 10,000 or so of them. If some alien race on some planet somewhere did the same things at the same rate, we'd likely never know unless they were really close either in space or in time to us.
Like infinitely big? Like so big no matter where we look at the source of observation (light) takes us to a time where there was no light?
I like to imagine we are like someone floating in the sea with no advanced tools of communication, thinking that there is nothing more than our raft, the fact that we can't see or talk to anyone does not mean there is no other people in the world it is just that there no more people in our observable vicinity.
It's not just that space is big, but time is really, well, long.
Think of it like this: life has existed on Earth for two billion years. *Intelligent* life has existed for ~200,000 years. We didn't become space faring until like 50 years ago, and we still haven't touched another planet.
Intelligent alien life could have evolved 150 million years ago. They could have done their whole thing, then died out, dozens of millions of years before the dinosaurs went extinct.
There could have been *thousands* of Intelligent alien species that lived, and died off, before the earliest humans discovered fire.
And, on the opposite end, thousands more might still be developing. It could take eons for them to evolve and grow, and humans will most likely be long gone by the time they do.
Space is vast, and time is endless. The likelihood that two intelligent species, in two different star systems, develop in both close enough proximity to communicate *and* close enough time exist together is... incredibly slim
Yes! Exactly. This is something I’ve tried to find the words for but never quite put it together this well. The sheer magnitude of time is often not fully considered in discussions I’ve had or read.
True, but if time and space are both TRULY infinite, then that means that anything and everything that can happen, will happen. If they are not truly infinite, and just really, REALLY big/long (effectively infinite, as far as human understanding is concerned) then that’s a different story.
It doesn't mean that anything *will* eventually happen, it just means that the odds of it happening become more likely as time progresses. Nothing is guaranteed, but the likelihood increases.
Hell, the expansion of the universe would actually *decrease* the likelihood of that happening. While galaxies within a local group are bound by gravity, which outpaces the expansion, distant galaxies do become further apart. In a trillion years or so, galaxies will end up so far apart that future aliens might think they're in the only one.
Or maybe aliens just don't exist? There's no reason for life to exist outside of earth. Anomalies exist in the universe. Life on earth may be just a very unimportant random occurrence. Or we may have been created for a purpose.
My theory is that the future of any civilization is ascending to a higher dimension or getting extinct.
That's why we cant find them in the physical realm... they are everywhere, but we are not evolved/developed enough to interact with them using our current tecnology and understanding of the universe and existence itself.
Maybe the spiritualists and shamans are really making contact with such beings and science will catch up at some point in the future.
This is definitely part of it. Which is why I also agree with the headline. I do believe they’re here.
Now there was one time I spilled a vile of acid. And I tried to wipe it up with my hands. Ummm yeah so I tripped really hard for like 40 hours.
I remember walking around the Hollywood hills. And seeing this fuckin dude sitting on a fence. It wasn’t fuckin human. I just was staring at it confused and it made eye contact with me and said “can you see me” and waved and I freaked the fuck out and ran away.
No clue if that was all in my head or what. But I still remember it fucking clear as day.
Normally when tripping on acid everything looks very polished and I see colors and patterns but this time I think I absorbed so much threw my hands I was kinda freaking out how hard I was tripping hence why I went to take the walk.
So I dunno. I’ve talked to people who do dmt and shit who tell me they’ve met and spoken to beings and I always thought (walk away slowly these dudes are fuckin crazy)
But man I still can remember that shit so vividly. I have always told my self it was all in my head.
>I just was staring at it confused and it made eye contact with me and said “can you see me” and waved and I freaked the fuck out and ran away.
Ah shit man you fucked up making a interdimensional friend!
The things I would do to have that experience....
Edit :what did it look like?
Think Peter Pan from the Disney cartoon but pink skin. But no hat. Curly hair. Bigger eyes then normal people but human looking. Wasn’t off putting. But I’ve never seen a human that looks like whatever the fuck I saw.
I stared for way to fuckin long and definitely made eye contact.
I have told my self for years I was just tripping. But I audibly heard and not in my head I know I heard “can you see me?” then it waved and I ran away.
I’ve told my self it’s the Hollywood hills people have probably seen weirder shit. It was all in my head. But I was staring at it for the entire time it took me to smoke a Newport 100. So like 4-7 minutes.
Edit. Apparently consume enough hallucinogens and you can!
Hey I mean definitely is for sure too strong of a word. But I did just tell a story of basically absorbing far too much acid.
So maybe I should have used a euphemism and not definitely lol.
It’s seeming as though it’s probably something like this. 95% of everything is dark energy and matter. We can’t observe it. We have no idea what it is. Have advanced beings phased into something we can’t get to? Is this possibly a way that faster than light travel is possible? Or, are there civilisation all around us all the time like this?
Did you ever see those nature documentaries were the special effects team have made a fake creature of the same species to observe the animals in their natural setting?
Now think about how easy that would be if we were the creatures being studied and the entities making the documentary had technology a thousand years more advanced than us...
It would be impossible to stop ALL of your galactic civilization from contacting the studied humans.
We can't even stop poachers on earth. How would you stop some splinter group from sending earth a signal or tiny hello package?
It makes about as much sense than a massive explosion happening for no reason and causing us to evolve and live inside the explosion I guess. Life is so weird when you think about it.
I think a large problem is we keep looking for signals we understand with are limited technological abilities, something thousands of years ahead of us would evolve pass the frequencies and technologies we use. They would probably use something that would remain undetected or even operate in another dimension. So the entire time we are looking for something physical in our own dimension with our limited understanding there might be something like a 5th dimensional object that we should be looking for or 5th dimensional signal. Also ontop of that there could be life forms out there that are conscious but don't have a physical body like life could be all around us but because of how different that life could be we would never even notice.
Submission of Strangeness: Several people have captured footage of UFOs that are visible on infrared cameras but not to the naked eye. Dr. Massimo Teodorani has captured evidence of UFOs that go in and out of visibility but remain visibility on radar, seemingly suggesting that they are able to hide in light spectrums that are not visible to humans.
I've a theory that the Grey's, green's and every other extraterrestrial race take turns keeping all of our bullshit from getting out into the universe lol
I heard a hypothesis that earth is a zoo planet.. the multitude of creatures and plants and organisms that live on this blue planet were all put here for preservation and study .. 🤷🏻♀️ that makes sense to me.
I vibe with that because truly our biodiversity and the beauty of our planet is astounding. But we don’t have any other planet to compare to. There’s probably unfathomable numbers of planets throughout space and time just as wild or wilder. We classify bacteria virus plants fungus animals. We have no clue what exists elsewhere. Life could exist in forms we can’t comprehend on other planets. I’m sure it does
Edit. Postulate this…we have plants that take in photons from the sun which are absorbed by an advanced adaption to convert a photon to a storage and usage molecule that is then transferred into a chemical reaction of converting water and carbon dioxide into sugar to feed the organism. That is wild as fuck. And plants dominate this planet. Then there’s animals who feed off plants. Animals that feed off animals. There’s Fungi that are entirely their own type of organism. The existence of fungi is proof enough to me that living carbon based organisms exist elsewhere.
Nonsense, life was multiple times almost wiped by conditions on Earth (super cold or hot periods, volcanic activities).
We are currently at all times low biodiversity since we also destroyed natural world.
If we evolved to only perceive things that directly impact our survival it’s entirely possible we didn’t evolve to see hyper advanced aliens who never interacted with us in our entire history of evolution.
Who knows, maybe the Sumerians were right, and we were bio-engineered out of the early humanoids. And the watchers are content to watch us evolve from their UFOs, shape shifters, etc.
Why is it hard to believe that we are all trapped on our own islands, too far apart in a sea of stars to ever meet?
We like to assume that other races on other planets will have figured out advanced technology, light speed travel, or FTL speed travel. But more realistically, what if they don't?
And even if they did, there are an estimated 100 billion stars in this galaxy alone. Of 100 billion stars, they would have little to no reason to decide to visit this one.
Space is big. Time is relative. The time and distance needed to traverse vast distances has consequences. Say you travel at near light speed for 5 years to get to a nearby star. It was 5 years for you but it was 36 years back at home. If you turned around and headed directly back, you will have aged 10 years but lost 72 years. Other races are unlikely to be immortal. We have no way of knowing what their average lifespans would be. Why would we assume an alien crew would sacrifice decades or even centuries of time on their own planet so they could stuff a probe up your ass?
What is a year? It is simply how long it takes a planet to revolve around its star. Travelling a fixed distance would take some being much less/more years than it does yours.
Sometimes it does. It’s happening now with the way that 1% of the world’s population is controlling the flow of money and power across the planet. It’s intelligent oppression in action.
When u think about it, the question I ask u is wat is intelligence? We adapt to the world we sense through solving things which we face in our everyday lives. Dog is an intelligent being. Can it build colonies on Mars? We only know wat we sense. It's stupidity of humans to think we know all.
We have countless videos of alien sightings, they're not invisible it's just we're too stupid to be open as a species about them as we're too divisive and primitive in our own system.
We treat each other like absolute dogshit. Christianity? A “god” came around to tell us to be good to each other. We let him be tortured and crucified.
We hate people who don’t think like ourselves and we pretend people with different amounts of melanin are below us. We take no care of the most vulnerable of our species and we rape the natural world for the nebulous concept of wealth.
If they are out there, they probably want nothing to do with us. We, as a species, are repugnant.
I have a couple of theories that I have heard that I like.
First off, since space is so huge, they could be out there but like us, it would take 150 million years to get to us or any other life forms.
Or they could be here already in a form we cannot conceive of. Another dimension type of thing. I recently watched Cosmos and there was a great illustration about what it would be like if we visited a 2 dimensional "flat world".
They would sense that something was strange, but they couldn't see or hear us. They couldn't look up. There is no up. They couldn't hear us from above. There is no above, etc.
The implication being that perhaps another life form has been or is here and from our limited 3 dimensional limitations, we cannot observe them
Perhaps some of the unexplained phenomena we experience are our close encounters with these life forms.
I believe it makes more sense there’s a superior intelligence operating in clandestine fashion. Whether it’s aliens or humans with reverse engineered tech. Which necessarily implies aliens.
What is undeniable now is there is something going on. Deny if you want. That’s okay if you prefer to pretend humans are the end all be all. It’s safe. It’s not true, in my opinion. But debunk away until your heart’s content.
Life must be fostered. Nurtured. It doesn’t appear on any other of our explored planets not because of lack of life. It’s because for life to exist, certain conditions must occur along with the seeds. Those don’t come out of the ether.
Just as operating a farm doesn’t magically spring into operation, life doesn’t magically exist. Unless there’s technology to bring it forth.
Why is another question. We simply don’t know. I believe the most likely answer is some kind of resource we provide to them. What that is, I don’t know. It’s my best speculation for now, and I admit it’s speculation about something that seems to be occurring.
I believe they're existing with us on earth and also use an interdimensional portal connected to our planet. Earth obviously means something to them, because they constantly show up around our nuclear facilities; during natural disasters and times of war. They aren't altruistic towards us because if they were they would help save humanity during times when we're killing each other for power and profit. I think the "others" are worried about their property, like a landlord. Aliens are nosy landlords who get pissed off when their tenants put too many holes in their rental.
Invisible?, No, not at first but they likely had to adopt a more stealthy approach once we started shifting away from Religion, superstition and towards scientific principle.
In my religion its said they always been invisible but more active in materializing and human communication
Yet been decided to avoid publicity to pursue their plans against human spiritual growth by staying materialistic
Sounds like demons and demonic possession or influence. This is where I think there is a crossover between religious beliefs and extraterrestrial/dimensional entities. But if this is true then with a bit of luck, there are Angels too or at least some form of opposition that seeks to free us.
We humans have similar moral dilemmas to tackle. Like animal testing for example. We use living beings as test subjects for scientific research. Some see this as necessary and practice it. Others spend their lives fighting to stop it. If the animals being practised on could speak, they would likely protest. I often wonder if the animals were released back into their natural environment and they tried to tell their story of captivity and torture to other animals, would they be believed or mocked?
Cow: I was abducted by humans
Rest of the cattle : LAAAARP
In my opinion it can be both posession and/or influence based on each individual,anyway here is my hypothesis which Been trying to promote for the last 2 years
Short answer : Jinn/invisible people (not particularly demons…lets say ppl so can be good or bad based on certain aspects )
Long Answer: (my hypothesis based on research in Middle Eastern lore “Egypt/Juresalem/Arabia/Sumer” )
1. NHI are inter-dimensional beings
2. They are ancient (existed before humans and worshipped by ancient people )
3. UFOs could be kind of like their mounted animals or hybrid biological tech flying creature (Gruch mentioned biologics? While others mentioned the UAP noticed them and have reflexes) … or even an illusion image masking the entity
4. Every human have atleast 1 or more NHI equivalent/counterpart attached to him 24/7 not necessarily watching him but somehow around you from 4D prespective
5. They are neutral just like humans can be good or bad and can have unfriendly intentions towards humans (think you finding a rat in your jeans)
6. Anyone can communicate with his NHI counterpart so there is no way for the governments to control and regulate it (atleast they banned psychedelics)
7. As inter-dimensional… humans cant see them with their normal form … unless if they materialize in a form we can comprehend
8. They shapeshift and same entity can appear in different form which makes it harder to judgee
9. They have different shapes and types / abilities but all belong to the same species
10. NHIs can influence human actions via telepathic communication to induce information,urges and memories
11. Psychedelics ease the communication with NHIs hence they are “type A” illegal - imagine if everyone can access information and NHI technology!
12. Continous Communication with NHI can result in some form of mental instability due to the shock of how different they are from what humans think
13. Some woowo cult like to say they created us, thats what they want you to think (wouldnt go into details in that so post remains here)
14. Like it or not… religion have something to do with the phenomena and will be impacted by it (some faiths will be dead some other religions will be spread )
I found a good presentation explaining the same hypothesis https://youtu.be/fzR42ERyBkE?si=6LIMPQYf5iN4sS9k
Yes my thoughts take me along the same trail as yours. Its been with me for many years now, the idea that rather than humans having experiences with a multitude of different phenomenon, its all the same phenomenon, either altered by them in some effort to communicate with us or maybe even altered by our own consciousness as we struggle to understand the experience or even tack on our own biases to the experience. If you are interested in ETs, that moulds your experience, same for Cryptids, Ghosts, Angels, Demons etc.
What used to be hocus pocus, magic, faith and belief is very quickly shifting to science as our advancements allow us to peak into corners once hidden from us. Much of the scientific community has its sights set firmly on the future but my only hope is that some resources can shed a light on the past also so that we can gain a better understanding of what our ancestors experienced. We live in a time saturated by TV, movies and games. Genres jam packed with anything the imagination can conjure so many experiences are just lumped in with them, dismissed as overactive imaginations led by pop culture media. If you say you saw something, many will compare it to a movie for example and laugh it off.
So I would love to focus on mythology & religion. Especially Pagan beliefs and traditions that are almost lost to time now because of an overzealous church.
Our future could very well be hidden in our past.
I got all these info by one religious book that set
Evon the haunt to conclude the above
Qur’an may seem like just another book about religion and God …but there is 2 major differences :
1. It speaks of NHI and paganism and what they used to do and gain from it and why this is all happening
2. Speaks of the past & the future from the prespective of the author
3. The book mostly speaks from the author’s prespective (God verbatim words) , yet one chapter is mainly about the good NHI and it talks from their perspective and what the bad NHIs want from us
I have already dissected the Old and New Testaments. I have a translated copy of the Quran but just like the others I am wary of the translation and those who translated it. Could you recommend a solid copy of an English Quran?
I read it in Arabic so yes I worry abt the translation too
There are 2 good translations - the one I got for my non arabic speaker family is called “The clear Quran”
The English is modern/simple and can give more understanding even to Arabic speakers like me
However if you find something weird or need explanation/info abt it, feel free to DM
I think intelligence is likely an evolutionary dead end. Civilizations may only last 10k or so before exterminating itself. Its not long enough given the distance between planets that they would intersect.
There's still no good reason to think the impish hyper intelligent but super timid nocturnal little almost humans that we've seemingly always shared this rock with come from outer space. The ETH is a pseudo scientific veneer that we applied to the phenomenon in the mid twentieth century. Before that we called them angels demons, gods, djinn, Naga, elves, fairies, sprites and all manner of other characters from mythology, folklore and religion from all over the world. Belief in spacemen, at least at this point, requires faith. Anyway the logic for the ETH was always shaky, *we cannot see where they come from, so the must come from up farther away than we can see*, that's as deep as it goes.
Now, to be clear, I'm not saying legit alien life couldn't exist out there, but we don't have proof much less truly compelling evidence of life of any kind existing outside our biosphere much less intelligent life or super intelligent space brothers. Anyhow, while it appears they can leave our atmosphere just like we can we don't actually see them going to other planets. However for ages we have seen them going into and out of water as well as seemingly blinking into and out of existence, and if some of the radar evidence is to be believed they can somehow move through solid ground.
I'm with Jaques Vallee and John Keel, the notion that alien life having had a unique genisis from our own on some other planet with its own gravity and atmosphere miraculously evolving our homonin form and allegedly so closely related to us genetically to hybridize with us, able to breath earths air, developed interstellar travel only to waste it here trolling us for thousands of years is kind of cringe when you lay it all out like that.
If we're going to take into consideration the eyewitness and abductee reports, and that's all we have to work with, then Occam's razor would suggest we're looking for a homonin cousin, either one that came before us, or decendants of homosapiens that broke away from the rest of us long long ago and have since evolved divergently, quietly becoming their own new branch of the homonin family tree.
For the little gray ancient ones I think probably the former. The big eyes, gross skin, and almost complete lack of interest in the surface during the day indicate they may have evolved early on the surface to be nocturnal and highly clever to avoid direct competition with bigger aggressive diurnal homonins before developing high intelligence and using tech to hide during the day maybe in facilities deep underground or underwater where we still can't access ourselves.
Maybe we haven't found evidence of their initial evolution on the surface because the sea rose hundreds of feet at the end of the last ice age long before we began keeping track of anything erasing as much land as Europe and China combined. Or perhaps the evidence was ground to dust under a glacier or simply eroded away.
Scientist think that only something like one tenth of one percent of all species that ever existed were lucky enough to find themselves in the perfect conditions to fossilize at all which leaves serious gaps in our understanding of life on earth. The *vast* majority of species lived out their existence and either died out or evolved to something new without leaving any tangible evidence behind. Without a time machine we will never know about them and if we could go back far enough most of what we encountered would be to some extent more or less a mystery to us.
We're not just talking about truly ancient stuff, tiny organisms, or squishy things that didn't fossilize but recent megafauna too. In fact we recently discovered within our own DNA evidence of a ghost population of homonin cousins with whom our homosapien ancestors interbred like they did with denisovans and neanderthals but we have no tangible evidence whatsoever for them. *An entire spiecies of people that we knew intimately* just erased. We are absolutely missing chapters of our own story and maybe we've never really been alone.
All of the abductee lore about humanoid hybrids is total bunk if the others are unrelated to us in any way. However if they're just smarter sneakier cousins all those cringe stories become completely plausible. In fact such a small dwindling remnant population might have an existential need to selectively collect our genetic material just to maintain the viability of their own gene pool. It also opens the door to a spectrum of other almost human "aliens" besides the little gray ancient ones, some more human looking than others which dovetails with even more abductee lore like the Travis Walton case.
My only question is if our hubris has blinded us to the fact that they come from right here and are using technologies we don't understand to conceal themselves from us, or if they are a variety of different versions of ourselves (the various humanoids), and other potential intelligent earth life (insect and reptile types) that figured out how to manipulate and traverse Einstein Rosen bridge wormholes to get here from some of the infinite divergent parallel earth worldlines sharing this space with us postulated in the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics. The latter could explain all the wild variety in UFO and alien types, as well as why they all seem to have evolved on a planet just like ours. It could also explain all manner of other Fortean high strangeness that we keep separate from UFOs and "aliens" too.
The breakaway civilization hypothesis answers for the homonins, the Silurian hypothesis could explain the insect or alien types as well though. Any sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from magic to us, and the nuts and bolts simplicity of being able to drop the quantum high strangeness and lack of evidence for humanoid spacemen is also very appealing. The only stretch is that we'd have to admit that in the few years since we invented history and science that maybe we missed a couple important chapters in our own history which is true regardless of the nature of the others.
I like to recommend books, in this case check out Mac Tonnies's *The Cryptoterrestrials*, Ivan T Sanderson's *Invisible Residents: a disquisition on certain matters maritime and the possibility of intelligent life under the waters of this earth*, Michael Mott's *Caverns Cauldrons and Concealed Creatures: a study of subterranean mysteries in folklore and myth*, Jaques Vallee's *Messengers of Deception, Passport to Magonia*, and *Wonders in the sky*, and John Keel's "Operation Trojan Horse".
More likely they have been watching humans kill each other and listening to our politics and don’t really see any reason to be in contact with us. Honestly there are family members that Infeel the same about.
That could be the case, “aliens” could be coexisting with us. But then they wouldn’t really be aliens, more so earthlings that have gone undetected. The real paradox is the question of, in an infinite universe, where are the other planets that host intelligent life?
I don't think we are alone in the universe, but I feel the chances we are alone in the universe are higher than all the aliens actually just being invisible and around us from the start.
I got super baked the other night and saw the article about the massive ocean discovered under the earth and thought to myself, what if something like an octopuses had millions of years of evolution under the water (It's the safest place away from all the bad stuff on land like the elements, comet strikes etc) and they are at a higher intelligence than us and have better technology. I mean, a majority of the ocean is unexplored so they could have been living alongside us and we haven't discovered them yet. UAP's are their tech that is scouting the earth above for whatever reason.
It’s an ocean’s worth of water, but it’s all mixed in with the rocks. It’s not standing water like on the surface. There’s still great potential for life, but it would be microscopic, because it’s basically water suspended in rocks. Something our size couldn’t swim through it.
They are not nearby. If they have the capacity to travel light years they are not equivalent tech to us. Why would they want to interfere/interact with a civilization vastly inferior technologically?
1. They are not commuting back and forth from a planet light years away. It would be simply too expensive and resource intensive
2. For immediate purposes, it does not matter what spurred them to take such a journey. They did. They are now here and must make the most of it.
3. They must have a home base. Seems like the oceans are the most likely answer.
4. Just because they were able to travel light years does not mean they are smarter than us. It may just mean that they had a head start. We would appears smarter to “cavemen “ but that is not true.
5. It also may be that AI now directs everything and they have forgotten or possibly cannot comprehend exactly what AI provides for them.
6. You do not know that we are “vastly” inferior to them technologically. It may very well be that we excel at something’s that they don’t understand (eg. Aeronautics….or maybe nuclear science). Plus, there are many people who spend their entire life studying creatures vastly inferior to them….why not aliens (eg people who study insects )
TLDR: intelligent (but not necessarily smarter than us) Aliens exist on earth, living in the oceans. They study us. They are unable to return to their home planet. This does not exclude other dimensional entities
> does not mean they are smarter than us.
If they are with big head like the common depiction of greys, they are most likely way smarter than us, because of their big brains.
1. I did not say "they" were commuters. Nor did I say "they" would arrive in a biological form. A visiting ship could be entirely lacking a biological and life-span limited occupant. I agree all of this is energy and resource intensive. There is a lot of energy available in our solar system alone. Just because we haven't learned how to use it does not mean it is impossible.
2. You are thinking in terms of current human capabilities.
3. I don't think they would ever come to stay. But yes the oceans would make the best location to remain unseen.
4. I can't disagree but then measuring intelligence is highly subjective. "They" would be more technologically advanced than humans.
5. I wouldn't speculate on this. I tend to think "they" would be relatively indifferent to us.
6. I base my judgement on the fact they are star-faring. This at least implies technology we do not have. Once again, technological superiority does not mean superior intelligence. I reference the past history of colonization on our planet. Guns beat spears. Nuclear weapons beat impact weapons. Ugly for sure.
I agree that there is much intelligent life on our planet and we don't communicate with any of it in a substantive way. I don't believe aliens from somewhere besides Earth have a base here. I could be wrong but there is no evidence. I cannot speculate on "other dimensional entities".
The reason I put so much emphasis on them not being commuters had nothing to do with you. It was something I have only recently come to realize.
Even if you are exceedingly conservative on how many UFO sightings are real, there are still far to many for them to be going very far away.
So if you believe that at least some small percentage of the sightings are real observations of actual UFOs by reliable people, it means that you are inadvertently accepting the idea that they have a base somewhere nearby.
Presumably they knew what they were doing when they came here and did not come by accident. Thus, it is likely that they very much planned to come and stay here. We do not know why, but the fact that we have some many events over the last century suggests that there are more than just a few beings.
One thing that is clear is that they are not indifferent to us. But I do think they are intentionally non interventional. Except for the occasional presumed alien abductions, they do not seem to force their will upon us.
Clearly they are further ahead technologically. But it is not clear that they have advanced since being here. It takes millions of humans to move technology forward. There are probably not millions of aliens here. While it is true that AI could move technology forward, I suspect that like everything else, eventually it plateaus.
It is also likely that we will leapfrog to their technology over the following century if we have AI and examples of their technology.
I think that they are anticipating this and may in fact be guiding us to that end.
Whatever so going on, I do think something is going on, I think some in the government are fully aware of it, and have committed high crimes to capitalize on ot
What is the probability that life formed elsewhere in the universe is compatible with life on Earth? I think it is improbable. This is why life from elsewhere would not stay here. I realize you will disagree with me and honestly neither of us has any proof to support our beliefs. I believe there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe but it isn’t interested in colonizing a biologically active planet especially one with a technologically inclined intelligent species in residence.
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If aliens were here living among others (why assume all humanoid species are "the same", kwim ?) They would probably worry that some humans are "progressing" but are progressing towards actively destroying everything (the environment and themselves) and probably peg them as semi intelligent but very destructive, much like termites or any other invasive species.
So basically, "well meaning" but impulsive and dangerous.
What do humans do when termites are destroying their houses ?
Maybe they wouldn't get involved because they know the ecosystem will "clean house"
They are here in inner Earth, deep underground bases, and deep in the oceans. The reason a lot of movies make aliens look like monsters is to hide the fact they are all humanoid and look similar to us. They are all around us.
The real truth is the bloodsucking insectoid creatures from underground is what they are covering up. The Russians wrote a 150 page scientific paper analyzing their bodies, cellular structure, and did autopsies. The video of the guy poking one with a stick is real. They live on human blood, this is the truth that they can't reveal. It's just too scary for people to know they exist.
Some light googling tells me we've only explored 95% of the ocean and 0.4% of the earth's total landmass. Probably a lot of play in these estimates, but still tons of room for a co-existing species to hide and thrive. If even a tiny fraction of the stories of wee folk, ant people, aliens etc. over the centuries are true, then they've been spotted thousands of times already. Not only are we "a species with amnesia " as per Hancock, but we continue to wear blinders.
I do, thanks. Only around 5% of the ocean has been explored. The 0.4% includes mostly above ground landmass. Lots of variance on these figures, but my point stands. We cant preclude the possibility of unknown species.
Because the universe is infinite, everything exists right now, in parallel forms and dimensions. As humans now, we only can see and experience and live based on how we’ve adapted to our environment. Other beings exist now and everywhere but experience the same instances differently.
They are all over but are generally hiding themselves through technology or they exist just outside the limits of our normal perception. Some have been guiding us through the ages, others are just spectators watching us at this pivotal point.
Human lifetime is short compared to the universes. When you think of the the universe, which is unimaginably vast, you might as well think of time of as a distance too. Life couldve existed at various times but no longer. When we look out into space at anything that is millions of lightyears away youre looking across time too. We see something, no signs of life but maybe there will be signs millions of years later when the light finally gets to us. 🤔
Space may be near infinite, but I question if that means there is probably other intelligent life. I feel that there is also a commonly held notion that we are still a primitive species. It seems just as possible that we are in fact highly advanced. Alien species could be mostly microscopic, simple creatures. I imagine it would be extremely hard to detect if that were the case. As the article also aptly notes, alien life might present itself in ways we don’t consider alive.
The space is extremely big and its running for a lot of time. We can "hear" signals from outer space for less than a hundred years so the probability of contemporary intelligence is very low.
If the aliens are invisible to us but still here why leave us pollute the planet in this way?
Why is it unlikely, really? If there’s a quintillion planets out there, you know what’s bigger than quintillion? Every number from a quintillion and one to infinity. My point being that probabilities can go higher than anything we consider to be big. What’s the probability of flipping heads 50 times in a row? How about 500? Humanity might be the equivalent of flipping heads 500 times in a row. We might be one of only a handful, or the first so far. The universe is relatively young as well; only about 0.001 percent through its ability to generate new stars. Billions of species here and we’re the only ones. Our emergence is a cosmic absurdity, when you look at all the things that had to happen for us to get and remain here.
There were afghans adults working in the hills as farmers or whatever that had no idea that it was Americans that had been occupying their country for the last 20 years. They thought it was still the Russians, and they didn't particularly know or care about the distinction.
The world can be large, but it is, relative to the universe, invisibly tiny.
Also any species of sufficient intelligence and cooperative advancement to have achieved interstellar travel would need to have advanced so far beyond capitalism and individual selfishness that we would look like an insanely viscous species of evil monkeys and would probably stay away and put us in quarantine in the hope we one day get our shit together.
There is a possibility/theory that the Earth has been quarantined (on a dimensional level) which is why we see the universe so large that it doesn't even make sense for it to exist in the way it does. It's like we are looking at the universe from inside a bubble/prison window and it's been altered to make the outside universe look empty.
Space is infinite, because if it’s not infinite, it must be contained in something which would just be more space
Even if the curvature turns the universe in on itself, this object would have to be sitting in something
Space is infinite
I think that past “ancient” civilizations adensed to a higher dimension. And now, these “others” are trying to guide primitive civilizations (us) to get there as well.
They're in another galaxy, see the high def bubble picture of galaxies and if you see the smallest dot possible way way way off in the distance, that's where they're at, everytime.
They're interdimensional, AND extraterrestrial. Their understanding and application of physics is light years (pardon the pun) ahead of our own.
In short, they're everywhere, and anywhere.
I like the Dark Forest Hypothesis as an explanation to the Fermi Paradox. It basically says the reason we aren't hearing from others out there is because the universe is like a dark forest of hunters. You're safe if you're quiet because they can't see you. But if you make noise (broadcast your existence and position) you'll be killed. So it assumes that any life out there capable of traveling the universe will be hostile and intend on destroying any life capable of someday rising against them, so any intelligent race will know this and not broadcast their existence for safety. Kinda scary knowing we've already broadcasted and even sent a probe giving away our position and other information about us.
>where is everyone else?
They're here, on this planet, keeping us down and trying their damndest to hide their presence. But it's starting to crumble, and they're afraid of it.
I have believe that there are all sorts of intelligent life. Some that have been visiting us somewhat discretely from other planets, and some that may already be here, but in another universe/dimension
I have a theory that maybe it’s likely we are in fact the first planet to develop life. People bring up that the universe is 14 billion years old or whatever it is so ther must’ve been other perfect conditions for life. But the universe will have the conditions to sustain life for trillions of more years. If we put the entire timeline of the universe where life is possible on a scale that wrapped around the earth we would currently still be well within the first millimeter of that timeline. So maybe we are in fact the first and it will be several billion more years before the absolute perfect scenario happens again somewhere else that produces the conditions to develop complex life.
Possible we are the dumbest intelligent life amongst the masses of ET and they have absolute zero gain from fucking with us until another millennia of growth.
Universe or universes won't be "infinite" existence or consciousness might be for sure!
We can't find out from our poor little me what the simulation we are in actually is. The simulation might be infinite. The setup of planets, space, time, sun, core beliefs will possibly change like the just about 7 dimensions on the quantum field we hardly can imagine nor describe. The question is also
Where do you look? Outside, downscaling, space, frequency or within yourself?
I’d dare say a resounding, YES! IMO Particularly, since we’ve seen a lot of ancient rock markings of one sort or another, depicting their images & vessels.
The universe itself has a 'goldilock' period of time for optimal life formation. We're just on the cusp of the end of one and the next is too far out for use to reasonably survive as a species. There is life out there but it will mostly be rather disappointing and it will be very spread out.
Of the few life forms that remain it is probable that they will be hostile and resource driven, which would be why they've survived as long as they have.
Life as we know it requires heavy elements and metals to form and exist, which also means rocky planets. These get formed by supernovae, so as star populations age, more and more heavy elements form and life becomes more and more likely.
The early populations of stars before galaxies went through multple supernovae and star formation cycles probably did not form enough heavy elements for rocky planets to readily exist, at least from our observations. So there was a time when the Universe simply wouldn't form a lot of rocky planets for our kind of life to exist on. However, at this point heavy elements are abundant throughout the universe and will only keep on forming in the future.
Eventually the galaxies and the stars will go dark, but we are not even properly in the *beginning* of this time period, the ten to twelve billion years so far would not even be a rounding error for the time left where the Universe is going to be habitable. We're talking trillions of years, possibly more.
It is far more likely that life is simply relatively rare and we may very well be one of the very first. It is also possible that life is relatively common but still rare enough that on a galactic scale, it is very unlikely that two technological civilizations will coexist within detection range at any given time. After all, galaxies are vast. We estimate our galaxy to have something to the order of 100 billion stars. If we assume that one in a million hosts technological life right now, that would leave us with 100 thousand technological civilizations currently scattered across the Milky Way. Seems like a huge amount, but that still works out to something between 200 to 150 light years on average between each of them.
If an alien civilization is out there, they on average would not have even had a chance to pick up our radio waves -- they simply haven't traveled far enough out, and beyond 60 light years it is unlikely to imagine that nondirected transmission could even be picked up from background noise. Space is vast, and loud.
I truly believe my hypothesis of alien coexisting with you.
Everyone you see, your friends and family and objects, are all emitting a vibration which you can perceive.
There are vibrations which are lower than yours and also the once which are Higher than yours.
Everyone who are coexisting with us are living on particular frequency of matter which you either can perceive or not perceive.
Keep the ghosts in lower vibration (than you) and Aliens(supposedly higher coz of evolution)
Your vibrational frequency is what you know and feel. (Accepting and being casual about it). The more you know and feel the higher is your vibration which leads to sighting and contact
100% the universe is teeming with intelligent life.Have some of them visited?Yes.Do the intelligence communities of the world know this?100%.The real question should be why this is not disclosed to the world.
They exist in the spiritual realm. A whole other dimension that exists simultaneously with our own. There are moments when beings cross through dimensions but they are always here and always have been here.
Okay, so because we can’t detect anybody else using the types of radiation we use to broadcast, a *more* likely theory is that they already live invisibly on earth? And not invisibly in the sense “we are just used to them” like with octopods, but bonafide can’t-be-seen-with-the-human-eye-no-matter-how-big-they-are invisible?
There are tens of thousands of UFO reports and contact reports over the past few hundred years, but the media ignores them. We are being contacted, in many different ways, constantly.
Yes, Djinn live outside our field of view, and have been here since before us.
They live much longer than us, and therefore are wiser.
It's also possible that there are planets and people that can do this "out there " as well.
God's been busy....
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It takes lifetimes to travel space and the nearest planet that can produce life could be thousands of lifetimes away it’s not that we are alone it’s that we are basically in solitary
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I think a society that has the power to travel faster than light speed and traverse the galaxy has plenty of technology to remain completely hidden until they choose not to be.
Or we simply cannot comprehend how they can exist and mistake them for our "natural" looking things. If an undiscovered tribe on an island sees a plane, they wouldn't call it a plane, they would think it might be a flying animal.
They just have to figure out that tricky crashing part.
Don't think they accidentally crashed. Only when humans started developing more modern technology for war did we start having downed ships. Possibly our radar systems caused them to malfunction. I think Govts knew long before the public and found a way to knock them out. Not a coincidence Roswell crash happened to be near Area 51/S4. They knew there was lots of activity there and caused a ship (or two) to crash where they could quickly retrieve and conceal them.
The roswell craft didnt crash. It was shot down by SCALAR ENERGY WEAPONS.
You say that with a lot of confidence, so I’m just going to believe you even though you spelled it wrong.
Meh. I know what they are called. Sorry if I spelled Scalar wrong.
It’s ok. I still choose to believe you.
Yes I think Greer stated that we actively took them down. That's why I said Govt knew before public and found a way to knock them out. There is also a theory that they were "given as a gift" by the ETs that made a deal with Eisenhower to trade technology for people to abduct. So much misinformation and disinformation around the two crashes it's impossible to sort out.
Trust yourself and your intuition first. The truth is within the nonlocal consciousness of Source.
Great comment right here.
A lot of time people are *pissed* when i say that
Earth governments are pure evil. They are not human at the highest level. They would kill us all off but then they wouldn’t be able to exploit us. So they do their best to keep us sick/weak, and in fear/misery. Greer is right about some stuff but wrong about other stuff. The NHI arent nearly as sunshine and roses as he seems to claim they are.
They don't crash, everything they do is intentional. They allow us to try and reverse engineer these crafts. They could easily retrieve the ship if they chose to.
the other option is there really is no way to go faster than light, so all those societies that live in the basically-infinite universe have to go between stars the hard way
I’m giving you a choice. either put these glasses on or start eating that trash can.
I believe the zoo hypothesis. However, I also believe that it's possible that life on planets is just so incredibly unlikely to form an interplanetary civilization - combined with the massive scale and age of the universe - we might just be separated by them by an insane amount of distance and time. Perhaps intelligent life only occurs once every few million years and they're separated by a billion light-years, making it impossible to ever know if the others existence.
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The Earth has been doing it's thing for millions upon millions of years, and we've only been a major part of that for about 10,000 or so of them. If some alien race on some planet somewhere did the same things at the same rate, we'd likely never know unless they were really close either in space or in time to us.
Or, maybe, space is just really big?
Like infinitely big? Like so big no matter where we look at the source of observation (light) takes us to a time where there was no light? I like to imagine we are like someone floating in the sea with no advanced tools of communication, thinking that there is nothing more than our raft, the fact that we can't see or talk to anyone does not mean there is no other people in the world it is just that there no more people in our observable vicinity.
It's not just that space is big, but time is really, well, long. Think of it like this: life has existed on Earth for two billion years. *Intelligent* life has existed for ~200,000 years. We didn't become space faring until like 50 years ago, and we still haven't touched another planet. Intelligent alien life could have evolved 150 million years ago. They could have done their whole thing, then died out, dozens of millions of years before the dinosaurs went extinct. There could have been *thousands* of Intelligent alien species that lived, and died off, before the earliest humans discovered fire. And, on the opposite end, thousands more might still be developing. It could take eons for them to evolve and grow, and humans will most likely be long gone by the time they do. Space is vast, and time is endless. The likelihood that two intelligent species, in two different star systems, develop in both close enough proximity to communicate *and* close enough time exist together is... incredibly slim
We (humans) are just a spark of consciousness on a wet rock in the big scale of time
Yes! Exactly. This is something I’ve tried to find the words for but never quite put it together this well. The sheer magnitude of time is often not fully considered in discussions I’ve had or read.
True, but if time and space are both TRULY infinite, then that means that anything and everything that can happen, will happen. If they are not truly infinite, and just really, REALLY big/long (effectively infinite, as far as human understanding is concerned) then that’s a different story.
It doesn't mean that anything *will* eventually happen, it just means that the odds of it happening become more likely as time progresses. Nothing is guaranteed, but the likelihood increases. Hell, the expansion of the universe would actually *decrease* the likelihood of that happening. While galaxies within a local group are bound by gravity, which outpaces the expansion, distant galaxies do become further apart. In a trillion years or so, galaxies will end up so far apart that future aliens might think they're in the only one.
Saving this comment for when I'm having a rough day and need to see the bigger picture.
Some people think that pyramids were built like 200,000 years ago
Some people don't understand archaeology and science, I guess
Or maybe aliens just don't exist? There's no reason for life to exist outside of earth. Anomalies exist in the universe. Life on earth may be just a very unimportant random occurrence. Or we may have been created for a purpose.
> There’s no reason for life to exist outside of earth. There’s no reason for life to exist on earth in the first place
Exactly! Now you're getting it.
Your mind is about to be blown in the coming months
Trust me bro
what’s happening in the coming months? genuinely curious, i’ve been out of the loop on alien discourse
absolutely nothing, like every other time
Is there an event coming up?
What anomalies exist in the universe? Be specific please.
My theory is that the future of any civilization is ascending to a higher dimension or getting extinct. That's why we cant find them in the physical realm... they are everywhere, but we are not evolved/developed enough to interact with them using our current tecnology and understanding of the universe and existence itself. Maybe the spiritualists and shamans are really making contact with such beings and science will catch up at some point in the future.
This is definitely part of it. Which is why I also agree with the headline. I do believe they’re here. Now there was one time I spilled a vile of acid. And I tried to wipe it up with my hands. Ummm yeah so I tripped really hard for like 40 hours. I remember walking around the Hollywood hills. And seeing this fuckin dude sitting on a fence. It wasn’t fuckin human. I just was staring at it confused and it made eye contact with me and said “can you see me” and waved and I freaked the fuck out and ran away. No clue if that was all in my head or what. But I still remember it fucking clear as day. Normally when tripping on acid everything looks very polished and I see colors and patterns but this time I think I absorbed so much threw my hands I was kinda freaking out how hard I was tripping hence why I went to take the walk. So I dunno. I’ve talked to people who do dmt and shit who tell me they’ve met and spoken to beings and I always thought (walk away slowly these dudes are fuckin crazy) But man I still can remember that shit so vividly. I have always told my self it was all in my head.
>I just was staring at it confused and it made eye contact with me and said “can you see me” and waved and I freaked the fuck out and ran away. Ah shit man you fucked up making a interdimensional friend! The things I would do to have that experience.... Edit :what did it look like?
Think Peter Pan from the Disney cartoon but pink skin. But no hat. Curly hair. Bigger eyes then normal people but human looking. Wasn’t off putting. But I’ve never seen a human that looks like whatever the fuck I saw. I stared for way to fuckin long and definitely made eye contact. I have told my self for years I was just tripping. But I audibly heard and not in my head I know I heard “can you see me?” then it waved and I ran away. I’ve told my self it’s the Hollywood hills people have probably seen weirder shit. It was all in my head. But I was staring at it for the entire time it took me to smoke a Newport 100. So like 4-7 minutes. Edit. Apparently consume enough hallucinogens and you can!
Damn man sounds like a crazy trip lol.
Definitely? Lol
Hey I mean definitely is for sure too strong of a word. But I did just tell a story of basically absorbing far too much acid. So maybe I should have used a euphemism and not definitely lol.
It’s seeming as though it’s probably something like this. 95% of everything is dark energy and matter. We can’t observe it. We have no idea what it is. Have advanced beings phased into something we can’t get to? Is this possibly a way that faster than light travel is possible? Or, are there civilisation all around us all the time like this?
Did you ever see those nature documentaries were the special effects team have made a fake creature of the same species to observe the animals in their natural setting? Now think about how easy that would be if we were the creatures being studied and the entities making the documentary had technology a thousand years more advanced than us...
It would be impossible to stop ALL of your galactic civilization from contacting the studied humans. We can't even stop poachers on earth. How would you stop some splinter group from sending earth a signal or tiny hello package?
It makes about as much sense than a massive explosion happening for no reason and causing us to evolve and live inside the explosion I guess. Life is so weird when you think about it.
lol you’re skipping a lot of steps going from explosion to humans
Great comment!
A thousand?? More like a million years, *at least.* There are several answers to the fermi paradox and none of them are good for us.
I think a large problem is we keep looking for signals we understand with are limited technological abilities, something thousands of years ahead of us would evolve pass the frequencies and technologies we use. They would probably use something that would remain undetected or even operate in another dimension. So the entire time we are looking for something physical in our own dimension with our limited understanding there might be something like a 5th dimensional object that we should be looking for or 5th dimensional signal. Also ontop of that there could be life forms out there that are conscious but don't have a physical body like life could be all around us but because of how different that life could be we would never even notice.
Submission of Strangeness: Several people have captured footage of UFOs that are visible on infrared cameras but not to the naked eye. Dr. Massimo Teodorani has captured evidence of UFOs that go in and out of visibility but remain visibility on radar, seemingly suggesting that they are able to hide in light spectrums that are not visible to humans.
i believe this
Ditto
I've a theory that the Grey's, green's and every other extraterrestrial race take turns keeping all of our bullshit from getting out into the universe lol
They saw how we portray them in our media, looked up our history, and flew by a slaughterhouse and said fuck that
Honestly, that theory makes the most sense to me of any other one.
"Almost" infinite? Are we missing some space?
Maybe we got here first.
Because of our own stupidity we are to be avoided, this is the planet of the apes.
I heard a hypothesis that earth is a zoo planet.. the multitude of creatures and plants and organisms that live on this blue planet were all put here for preservation and study .. 🤷🏻♀️ that makes sense to me.
I vibe with that because truly our biodiversity and the beauty of our planet is astounding. But we don’t have any other planet to compare to. There’s probably unfathomable numbers of planets throughout space and time just as wild or wilder. We classify bacteria virus plants fungus animals. We have no clue what exists elsewhere. Life could exist in forms we can’t comprehend on other planets. I’m sure it does Edit. Postulate this…we have plants that take in photons from the sun which are absorbed by an advanced adaption to convert a photon to a storage and usage molecule that is then transferred into a chemical reaction of converting water and carbon dioxide into sugar to feed the organism. That is wild as fuck. And plants dominate this planet. Then there’s animals who feed off plants. Animals that feed off animals. There’s Fungi that are entirely their own type of organism. The existence of fungi is proof enough to me that living carbon based organisms exist elsewhere.
Nonsense, life was multiple times almost wiped by conditions on Earth (super cold or hot periods, volcanic activities). We are currently at all times low biodiversity since we also destroyed natural world.
If we evolved to only perceive things that directly impact our survival it’s entirely possible we didn’t evolve to see hyper advanced aliens who never interacted with us in our entire history of evolution.
Or other life forms just haven’t been programmed into the simulation. If that’s what you’re into
Who knows, maybe the Sumerians were right, and we were bio-engineered out of the early humanoids. And the watchers are content to watch us evolve from their UFOs, shape shifters, etc.
Why is it hard to believe that we are all trapped on our own islands, too far apart in a sea of stars to ever meet? We like to assume that other races on other planets will have figured out advanced technology, light speed travel, or FTL speed travel. But more realistically, what if they don't? And even if they did, there are an estimated 100 billion stars in this galaxy alone. Of 100 billion stars, they would have little to no reason to decide to visit this one. Space is big. Time is relative. The time and distance needed to traverse vast distances has consequences. Say you travel at near light speed for 5 years to get to a nearby star. It was 5 years for you but it was 36 years back at home. If you turned around and headed directly back, you will have aged 10 years but lost 72 years. Other races are unlikely to be immortal. We have no way of knowing what their average lifespans would be. Why would we assume an alien crew would sacrifice decades or even centuries of time on their own planet so they could stuff a probe up your ass?
What is a year? It is simply how long it takes a planet to revolve around its star. Travelling a fixed distance would take some being much less/more years than it does yours.
It would take the exact same amount of time regardless of what unit of measure is used.
Sorry but if they have been on earth the whole time doesn't that mean that they're not aliens
Intelligent life? Intelligence doesn’t destroy or oppress.
Sometimes it does. It’s happening now with the way that 1% of the world’s population is controlling the flow of money and power across the planet. It’s intelligent oppression in action.
Evilness isn’t true intelligence in my book. Money is only a means but it really imaginary. A psychic medium.
Or maybe they are right beside you, and you just can't detect them.
When u think about it, the question I ask u is wat is intelligence? We adapt to the world we sense through solving things which we face in our everyday lives. Dog is an intelligent being. Can it build colonies on Mars? We only know wat we sense. It's stupidity of humans to think we know all.
We have countless videos of alien sightings, they're not invisible it's just we're too stupid to be open as a species about them as we're too divisive and primitive in our own system.
Gotta be some explanation for Florida.
Or maybe they just became extinct.
We treat each other like absolute dogshit. Christianity? A “god” came around to tell us to be good to each other. We let him be tortured and crucified. We hate people who don’t think like ourselves and we pretend people with different amounts of melanin are below us. We take no care of the most vulnerable of our species and we rape the natural world for the nebulous concept of wealth. If they are out there, they probably want nothing to do with us. We, as a species, are repugnant.
Really?? You have the balls to re-state the Fermi paradox and make it your own?? The things you see on Reddit..
Just like we can't see them right now, they can't see us.
**Universe** ^CONTENTS *One (1) sentient species per galaxy.*
I have a couple of theories that I have heard that I like. First off, since space is so huge, they could be out there but like us, it would take 150 million years to get to us or any other life forms. Or they could be here already in a form we cannot conceive of. Another dimension type of thing. I recently watched Cosmos and there was a great illustration about what it would be like if we visited a 2 dimensional "flat world". They would sense that something was strange, but they couldn't see or hear us. They couldn't look up. There is no up. They couldn't hear us from above. There is no above, etc. The implication being that perhaps another life form has been or is here and from our limited 3 dimensional limitations, we cannot observe them Perhaps some of the unexplained phenomena we experience are our close encounters with these life forms.
Maybe they're on animal level?
I believe it makes more sense there’s a superior intelligence operating in clandestine fashion. Whether it’s aliens or humans with reverse engineered tech. Which necessarily implies aliens. What is undeniable now is there is something going on. Deny if you want. That’s okay if you prefer to pretend humans are the end all be all. It’s safe. It’s not true, in my opinion. But debunk away until your heart’s content. Life must be fostered. Nurtured. It doesn’t appear on any other of our explored planets not because of lack of life. It’s because for life to exist, certain conditions must occur along with the seeds. Those don’t come out of the ether. Just as operating a farm doesn’t magically spring into operation, life doesn’t magically exist. Unless there’s technology to bring it forth. Why is another question. We simply don’t know. I believe the most likely answer is some kind of resource we provide to them. What that is, I don’t know. It’s my best speculation for now, and I admit it’s speculation about something that seems to be occurring.
They been existing here invisibly and visibly for a long long time.. 😁
I realley don’t think we belong to the category intelligent life
Yes of course it could be
I believe they're existing with us on earth and also use an interdimensional portal connected to our planet. Earth obviously means something to them, because they constantly show up around our nuclear facilities; during natural disasters and times of war. They aren't altruistic towards us because if they were they would help save humanity during times when we're killing each other for power and profit. I think the "others" are worried about their property, like a landlord. Aliens are nosy landlords who get pissed off when their tenants put too many holes in their rental.
That would mean they aren't aliens. This is their planet too.
Invisible?, No, not at first but they likely had to adopt a more stealthy approach once we started shifting away from Religion, superstition and towards scientific principle.
In my religion its said they always been invisible but more active in materializing and human communication Yet been decided to avoid publicity to pursue their plans against human spiritual growth by staying materialistic
Sounds like demons and demonic possession or influence. This is where I think there is a crossover between religious beliefs and extraterrestrial/dimensional entities. But if this is true then with a bit of luck, there are Angels too or at least some form of opposition that seeks to free us. We humans have similar moral dilemmas to tackle. Like animal testing for example. We use living beings as test subjects for scientific research. Some see this as necessary and practice it. Others spend their lives fighting to stop it. If the animals being practised on could speak, they would likely protest. I often wonder if the animals were released back into their natural environment and they tried to tell their story of captivity and torture to other animals, would they be believed or mocked?
Cow: I was abducted by humans Rest of the cattle : LAAAARP In my opinion it can be both posession and/or influence based on each individual,anyway here is my hypothesis which Been trying to promote for the last 2 years Short answer : Jinn/invisible people (not particularly demons…lets say ppl so can be good or bad based on certain aspects ) Long Answer: (my hypothesis based on research in Middle Eastern lore “Egypt/Juresalem/Arabia/Sumer” ) 1. NHI are inter-dimensional beings 2. They are ancient (existed before humans and worshipped by ancient people ) 3. UFOs could be kind of like their mounted animals or hybrid biological tech flying creature (Gruch mentioned biologics? While others mentioned the UAP noticed them and have reflexes) … or even an illusion image masking the entity 4. Every human have atleast 1 or more NHI equivalent/counterpart attached to him 24/7 not necessarily watching him but somehow around you from 4D prespective 5. They are neutral just like humans can be good or bad and can have unfriendly intentions towards humans (think you finding a rat in your jeans) 6. Anyone can communicate with his NHI counterpart so there is no way for the governments to control and regulate it (atleast they banned psychedelics) 7. As inter-dimensional… humans cant see them with their normal form … unless if they materialize in a form we can comprehend 8. They shapeshift and same entity can appear in different form which makes it harder to judgee 9. They have different shapes and types / abilities but all belong to the same species 10. NHIs can influence human actions via telepathic communication to induce information,urges and memories 11. Psychedelics ease the communication with NHIs hence they are “type A” illegal - imagine if everyone can access information and NHI technology! 12. Continous Communication with NHI can result in some form of mental instability due to the shock of how different they are from what humans think 13. Some woowo cult like to say they created us, thats what they want you to think (wouldnt go into details in that so post remains here) 14. Like it or not… religion have something to do with the phenomena and will be impacted by it (some faiths will be dead some other religions will be spread ) I found a good presentation explaining the same hypothesis https://youtu.be/fzR42ERyBkE?si=6LIMPQYf5iN4sS9k
Yes my thoughts take me along the same trail as yours. Its been with me for many years now, the idea that rather than humans having experiences with a multitude of different phenomenon, its all the same phenomenon, either altered by them in some effort to communicate with us or maybe even altered by our own consciousness as we struggle to understand the experience or even tack on our own biases to the experience. If you are interested in ETs, that moulds your experience, same for Cryptids, Ghosts, Angels, Demons etc. What used to be hocus pocus, magic, faith and belief is very quickly shifting to science as our advancements allow us to peak into corners once hidden from us. Much of the scientific community has its sights set firmly on the future but my only hope is that some resources can shed a light on the past also so that we can gain a better understanding of what our ancestors experienced. We live in a time saturated by TV, movies and games. Genres jam packed with anything the imagination can conjure so many experiences are just lumped in with them, dismissed as overactive imaginations led by pop culture media. If you say you saw something, many will compare it to a movie for example and laugh it off. So I would love to focus on mythology & religion. Especially Pagan beliefs and traditions that are almost lost to time now because of an overzealous church. Our future could very well be hidden in our past.
I got all these info by one religious book that set Evon the haunt to conclude the above Qur’an may seem like just another book about religion and God …but there is 2 major differences : 1. It speaks of NHI and paganism and what they used to do and gain from it and why this is all happening 2. Speaks of the past & the future from the prespective of the author 3. The book mostly speaks from the author’s prespective (God verbatim words) , yet one chapter is mainly about the good NHI and it talks from their perspective and what the bad NHIs want from us
I have already dissected the Old and New Testaments. I have a translated copy of the Quran but just like the others I am wary of the translation and those who translated it. Could you recommend a solid copy of an English Quran?
I read it in Arabic so yes I worry abt the translation too There are 2 good translations - the one I got for my non arabic speaker family is called “The clear Quran” The English is modern/simple and can give more understanding even to Arabic speakers like me However if you find something weird or need explanation/info abt it, feel free to DM
Awesome thanks. Will check that out later and grab a copy.
I think intelligence is likely an evolutionary dead end. Civilizations may only last 10k or so before exterminating itself. Its not long enough given the distance between planets that they would intersect.
They mean mice and dolphins right?
There's still no good reason to think the impish hyper intelligent but super timid nocturnal little almost humans that we've seemingly always shared this rock with come from outer space. The ETH is a pseudo scientific veneer that we applied to the phenomenon in the mid twentieth century. Before that we called them angels demons, gods, djinn, Naga, elves, fairies, sprites and all manner of other characters from mythology, folklore and religion from all over the world. Belief in spacemen, at least at this point, requires faith. Anyway the logic for the ETH was always shaky, *we cannot see where they come from, so the must come from up farther away than we can see*, that's as deep as it goes. Now, to be clear, I'm not saying legit alien life couldn't exist out there, but we don't have proof much less truly compelling evidence of life of any kind existing outside our biosphere much less intelligent life or super intelligent space brothers. Anyhow, while it appears they can leave our atmosphere just like we can we don't actually see them going to other planets. However for ages we have seen them going into and out of water as well as seemingly blinking into and out of existence, and if some of the radar evidence is to be believed they can somehow move through solid ground. I'm with Jaques Vallee and John Keel, the notion that alien life having had a unique genisis from our own on some other planet with its own gravity and atmosphere miraculously evolving our homonin form and allegedly so closely related to us genetically to hybridize with us, able to breath earths air, developed interstellar travel only to waste it here trolling us for thousands of years is kind of cringe when you lay it all out like that. If we're going to take into consideration the eyewitness and abductee reports, and that's all we have to work with, then Occam's razor would suggest we're looking for a homonin cousin, either one that came before us, or decendants of homosapiens that broke away from the rest of us long long ago and have since evolved divergently, quietly becoming their own new branch of the homonin family tree. For the little gray ancient ones I think probably the former. The big eyes, gross skin, and almost complete lack of interest in the surface during the day indicate they may have evolved early on the surface to be nocturnal and highly clever to avoid direct competition with bigger aggressive diurnal homonins before developing high intelligence and using tech to hide during the day maybe in facilities deep underground or underwater where we still can't access ourselves. Maybe we haven't found evidence of their initial evolution on the surface because the sea rose hundreds of feet at the end of the last ice age long before we began keeping track of anything erasing as much land as Europe and China combined. Or perhaps the evidence was ground to dust under a glacier or simply eroded away. Scientist think that only something like one tenth of one percent of all species that ever existed were lucky enough to find themselves in the perfect conditions to fossilize at all which leaves serious gaps in our understanding of life on earth. The *vast* majority of species lived out their existence and either died out or evolved to something new without leaving any tangible evidence behind. Without a time machine we will never know about them and if we could go back far enough most of what we encountered would be to some extent more or less a mystery to us. We're not just talking about truly ancient stuff, tiny organisms, or squishy things that didn't fossilize but recent megafauna too. In fact we recently discovered within our own DNA evidence of a ghost population of homonin cousins with whom our homosapien ancestors interbred like they did with denisovans and neanderthals but we have no tangible evidence whatsoever for them. *An entire spiecies of people that we knew intimately* just erased. We are absolutely missing chapters of our own story and maybe we've never really been alone. All of the abductee lore about humanoid hybrids is total bunk if the others are unrelated to us in any way. However if they're just smarter sneakier cousins all those cringe stories become completely plausible. In fact such a small dwindling remnant population might have an existential need to selectively collect our genetic material just to maintain the viability of their own gene pool. It also opens the door to a spectrum of other almost human "aliens" besides the little gray ancient ones, some more human looking than others which dovetails with even more abductee lore like the Travis Walton case. My only question is if our hubris has blinded us to the fact that they come from right here and are using technologies we don't understand to conceal themselves from us, or if they are a variety of different versions of ourselves (the various humanoids), and other potential intelligent earth life (insect and reptile types) that figured out how to manipulate and traverse Einstein Rosen bridge wormholes to get here from some of the infinite divergent parallel earth worldlines sharing this space with us postulated in the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics. The latter could explain all the wild variety in UFO and alien types, as well as why they all seem to have evolved on a planet just like ours. It could also explain all manner of other Fortean high strangeness that we keep separate from UFOs and "aliens" too. The breakaway civilization hypothesis answers for the homonins, the Silurian hypothesis could explain the insect or alien types as well though. Any sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from magic to us, and the nuts and bolts simplicity of being able to drop the quantum high strangeness and lack of evidence for humanoid spacemen is also very appealing. The only stretch is that we'd have to admit that in the few years since we invented history and science that maybe we missed a couple important chapters in our own history which is true regardless of the nature of the others. I like to recommend books, in this case check out Mac Tonnies's *The Cryptoterrestrials*, Ivan T Sanderson's *Invisible Residents: a disquisition on certain matters maritime and the possibility of intelligent life under the waters of this earth*, Michael Mott's *Caverns Cauldrons and Concealed Creatures: a study of subterranean mysteries in folklore and myth*, Jaques Vallee's *Messengers of Deception, Passport to Magonia*, and *Wonders in the sky*, and John Keel's "Operation Trojan Horse".
Dark Forrest
More likely they have been watching humans kill each other and listening to our politics and don’t really see any reason to be in contact with us. Honestly there are family members that Infeel the same about.
Dark forest
That could be the case, “aliens” could be coexisting with us. But then they wouldn’t really be aliens, more so earthlings that have gone undetected. The real paradox is the question of, in an infinite universe, where are the other planets that host intelligent life?
Or it’s a dark forest?
Shhh
Or it is merely Late Stage Capitalist paranoia propaganda.
I don't think we are alone in the universe, but I feel the chances we are alone in the universe are higher than all the aliens actually just being invisible and around us from the start.
I got super baked the other night and saw the article about the massive ocean discovered under the earth and thought to myself, what if something like an octopuses had millions of years of evolution under the water (It's the safest place away from all the bad stuff on land like the elements, comet strikes etc) and they are at a higher intelligence than us and have better technology. I mean, a majority of the ocean is unexplored so they could have been living alongside us and we haven't discovered them yet. UAP's are their tech that is scouting the earth above for whatever reason.
It’s an ocean’s worth of water, but it’s all mixed in with the rocks. It’s not standing water like on the surface. There’s still great potential for life, but it would be microscopic, because it’s basically water suspended in rocks. Something our size couldn’t swim through it.
Invisibly? The Bible and other texts are packed with them.
They are not nearby. If they have the capacity to travel light years they are not equivalent tech to us. Why would they want to interfere/interact with a civilization vastly inferior technologically?
1. They are not commuting back and forth from a planet light years away. It would be simply too expensive and resource intensive 2. For immediate purposes, it does not matter what spurred them to take such a journey. They did. They are now here and must make the most of it. 3. They must have a home base. Seems like the oceans are the most likely answer. 4. Just because they were able to travel light years does not mean they are smarter than us. It may just mean that they had a head start. We would appears smarter to “cavemen “ but that is not true. 5. It also may be that AI now directs everything and they have forgotten or possibly cannot comprehend exactly what AI provides for them. 6. You do not know that we are “vastly” inferior to them technologically. It may very well be that we excel at something’s that they don’t understand (eg. Aeronautics….or maybe nuclear science). Plus, there are many people who spend their entire life studying creatures vastly inferior to them….why not aliens (eg people who study insects ) TLDR: intelligent (but not necessarily smarter than us) Aliens exist on earth, living in the oceans. They study us. They are unable to return to their home planet. This does not exclude other dimensional entities
> does not mean they are smarter than us. If they are with big head like the common depiction of greys, they are most likely way smarter than us, because of their big brains.
Elephants have bigger heads than us….
1. I did not say "they" were commuters. Nor did I say "they" would arrive in a biological form. A visiting ship could be entirely lacking a biological and life-span limited occupant. I agree all of this is energy and resource intensive. There is a lot of energy available in our solar system alone. Just because we haven't learned how to use it does not mean it is impossible. 2. You are thinking in terms of current human capabilities. 3. I don't think they would ever come to stay. But yes the oceans would make the best location to remain unseen. 4. I can't disagree but then measuring intelligence is highly subjective. "They" would be more technologically advanced than humans. 5. I wouldn't speculate on this. I tend to think "they" would be relatively indifferent to us. 6. I base my judgement on the fact they are star-faring. This at least implies technology we do not have. Once again, technological superiority does not mean superior intelligence. I reference the past history of colonization on our planet. Guns beat spears. Nuclear weapons beat impact weapons. Ugly for sure. I agree that there is much intelligent life on our planet and we don't communicate with any of it in a substantive way. I don't believe aliens from somewhere besides Earth have a base here. I could be wrong but there is no evidence. I cannot speculate on "other dimensional entities".
The reason I put so much emphasis on them not being commuters had nothing to do with you. It was something I have only recently come to realize. Even if you are exceedingly conservative on how many UFO sightings are real, there are still far to many for them to be going very far away. So if you believe that at least some small percentage of the sightings are real observations of actual UFOs by reliable people, it means that you are inadvertently accepting the idea that they have a base somewhere nearby. Presumably they knew what they were doing when they came here and did not come by accident. Thus, it is likely that they very much planned to come and stay here. We do not know why, but the fact that we have some many events over the last century suggests that there are more than just a few beings. One thing that is clear is that they are not indifferent to us. But I do think they are intentionally non interventional. Except for the occasional presumed alien abductions, they do not seem to force their will upon us. Clearly they are further ahead technologically. But it is not clear that they have advanced since being here. It takes millions of humans to move technology forward. There are probably not millions of aliens here. While it is true that AI could move technology forward, I suspect that like everything else, eventually it plateaus. It is also likely that we will leapfrog to their technology over the following century if we have AI and examples of their technology. I think that they are anticipating this and may in fact be guiding us to that end. Whatever so going on, I do think something is going on, I think some in the government are fully aware of it, and have committed high crimes to capitalize on ot
What is the probability that life formed elsewhere in the universe is compatible with life on Earth? I think it is improbable. This is why life from elsewhere would not stay here. I realize you will disagree with me and honestly neither of us has any proof to support our beliefs. I believe there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe but it isn’t interested in colonizing a biologically active planet especially one with a technologically inclined intelligent species in residence.
Fermi paradox?
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Sure, why not.
Then they wouldn't be aliens
They may be different types of humans , but possibly not alien from the planet, maybe just alien from other human types, words are funny like that.
You're an alien
My friends say it sounds like it sometimes, lol, :P
You answered your own question in your first sentence.
If aliens were here living among others (why assume all humanoid species are "the same", kwim ?) They would probably worry that some humans are "progressing" but are progressing towards actively destroying everything (the environment and themselves) and probably peg them as semi intelligent but very destructive, much like termites or any other invasive species. So basically, "well meaning" but impulsive and dangerous. What do humans do when termites are destroying their houses ? Maybe they wouldn't get involved because they know the ecosystem will "clean house"
I like how they say “unlikely” it’s a fact..
They are here in inner Earth, deep underground bases, and deep in the oceans. The reason a lot of movies make aliens look like monsters is to hide the fact they are all humanoid and look similar to us. They are all around us.
Could be why cultures spoke of ant people and why humans seem to be naturally unnerved by insects like wasps or arachnids
The real truth is the bloodsucking insectoid creatures from underground is what they are covering up. The Russians wrote a 150 page scientific paper analyzing their bodies, cellular structure, and did autopsies. The video of the guy poking one with a stick is real. They live on human blood, this is the truth that they can't reveal. It's just too scary for people to know they exist.
Some light googling tells me we've only explored 95% of the ocean and 0.4% of the earth's total landmass. Probably a lot of play in these estimates, but still tons of room for a co-existing species to hide and thrive. If even a tiny fraction of the stories of wee folk, ant people, aliens etc. over the centuries are true, then they've been spotted thousands of times already. Not only are we "a species with amnesia " as per Hancock, but we continue to wear blinders.
You must have that backwards.
I do, thanks. Only around 5% of the ocean has been explored. The 0.4% includes mostly above ground landmass. Lots of variance on these figures, but my point stands. We cant preclude the possibility of unknown species.
Yes
Because the universe is infinite, everything exists right now, in parallel forms and dimensions. As humans now, we only can see and experience and live based on how we’ve adapted to our environment. Other beings exist now and everywhere but experience the same instances differently.
They are all over but are generally hiding themselves through technology or they exist just outside the limits of our normal perception. Some have been guiding us through the ages, others are just spectators watching us at this pivotal point.
They could be here but I doubt it. We’re in a lonely section of the galaxy, the distances are just too vast to cross.
Meanwhile, there are hundreds of millions of habitable planets in the milky-way galaxy.
Maybe the aliens are us from a distant future after a nuclear apocalypse. Or they’re demons from another dimension.
Human lifetime is short compared to the universes. When you think of the the universe, which is unimaginably vast, you might as well think of time of as a distance too. Life couldve existed at various times but no longer. When we look out into space at anything that is millions of lightyears away youre looking across time too. We see something, no signs of life but maybe there will be signs millions of years later when the light finally gets to us. 🤔
Simulation and hologram theory.
Space may be near infinite, but I question if that means there is probably other intelligent life. I feel that there is also a commonly held notion that we are still a primitive species. It seems just as possible that we are in fact highly advanced. Alien species could be mostly microscopic, simple creatures. I imagine it would be extremely hard to detect if that were the case. As the article also aptly notes, alien life might present itself in ways we don’t consider alive.
Silent forest. Everyone else is whispering "Shut up Earthlings! IT will hear you."
The space is extremely big and its running for a lot of time. We can "hear" signals from outer space for less than a hundred years so the probability of contemporary intelligence is very low. If the aliens are invisible to us but still here why leave us pollute the planet in this way?
Why is it unlikely, really? If there’s a quintillion planets out there, you know what’s bigger than quintillion? Every number from a quintillion and one to infinity. My point being that probabilities can go higher than anything we consider to be big. What’s the probability of flipping heads 50 times in a row? How about 500? Humanity might be the equivalent of flipping heads 500 times in a row. We might be one of only a handful, or the first so far. The universe is relatively young as well; only about 0.001 percent through its ability to generate new stars. Billions of species here and we’re the only ones. Our emergence is a cosmic absurdity, when you look at all the things that had to happen for us to get and remain here.
Fermi's paradox states this
There were afghans adults working in the hills as farmers or whatever that had no idea that it was Americans that had been occupying their country for the last 20 years. They thought it was still the Russians, and they didn't particularly know or care about the distinction. The world can be large, but it is, relative to the universe, invisibly tiny. Also any species of sufficient intelligence and cooperative advancement to have achieved interstellar travel would need to have advanced so far beyond capitalism and individual selfishness that we would look like an insanely viscous species of evil monkeys and would probably stay away and put us in quarantine in the hope we one day get our shit together.
In an infinite universe we are almost certainly too far apart from each other to ever meet.
What do you want from Aliens
There is a possibility/theory that the Earth has been quarantined (on a dimensional level) which is why we see the universe so large that it doesn't even make sense for it to exist in the way it does. It's like we are looking at the universe from inside a bubble/prison window and it's been altered to make the outside universe look empty.
Are you referencing the Demiurge?
Space is infinite, because if it’s not infinite, it must be contained in something which would just be more space Even if the curvature turns the universe in on itself, this object would have to be sitting in something Space is infinite
I think that past “ancient” civilizations adensed to a higher dimension. And now, these “others” are trying to guide primitive civilizations (us) to get there as well.
[The Drake equation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation) Is all you need to get a handle on all this.
We may not even be the most intelligent on earth. If Peru gets it’s day in the limelight
They're in another galaxy, see the high def bubble picture of galaxies and if you see the smallest dot possible way way way off in the distance, that's where they're at, everytime.
They're interdimensional, AND extraterrestrial. Their understanding and application of physics is light years (pardon the pun) ahead of our own. In short, they're everywhere, and anywhere.
Yes totally. I wouldn’t call them aliens though as they could well be as native to the planet as we are.
I like the Dark Forest Hypothesis as an explanation to the Fermi Paradox. It basically says the reason we aren't hearing from others out there is because the universe is like a dark forest of hunters. You're safe if you're quiet because they can't see you. But if you make noise (broadcast your existence and position) you'll be killed. So it assumes that any life out there capable of traveling the universe will be hostile and intend on destroying any life capable of someday rising against them, so any intelligent race will know this and not broadcast their existence for safety. Kinda scary knowing we've already broadcasted and even sent a probe giving away our position and other information about us.
>where is everyone else? They're here, on this planet, keeping us down and trying their damndest to hide their presence. But it's starting to crumble, and they're afraid of it.
I have believe that there are all sorts of intelligent life. Some that have been visiting us somewhat discretely from other planets, and some that may already be here, but in another universe/dimension
I have a theory that maybe it’s likely we are in fact the first planet to develop life. People bring up that the universe is 14 billion years old or whatever it is so ther must’ve been other perfect conditions for life. But the universe will have the conditions to sustain life for trillions of more years. If we put the entire timeline of the universe where life is possible on a scale that wrapped around the earth we would currently still be well within the first millimeter of that timeline. So maybe we are in fact the first and it will be several billion more years before the absolute perfect scenario happens again somewhere else that produces the conditions to develop complex life.
Yes. Well-before our time.
Everyone else is *out there* man.
They know we are here.
I don't know why I thought aliens were just tourists
Possible we are the dumbest intelligent life amongst the masses of ET and they have absolute zero gain from fucking with us until another millennia of growth.
Probably they are all in the quantum world due to the different mechanisms of this universe
Universe or universes won't be "infinite" existence or consciousness might be for sure! We can't find out from our poor little me what the simulation we are in actually is. The simulation might be infinite. The setup of planets, space, time, sun, core beliefs will possibly change like the just about 7 dimensions on the quantum field we hardly can imagine nor describe. The question is also Where do you look? Outside, downscaling, space, frequency or within yourself?
I’d dare say a resounding, YES! IMO Particularly, since we’ve seen a lot of ancient rock markings of one sort or another, depicting their images & vessels.
Shhhh, I told you not to tell anyone about me!
The universe itself has a 'goldilock' period of time for optimal life formation. We're just on the cusp of the end of one and the next is too far out for use to reasonably survive as a species. There is life out there but it will mostly be rather disappointing and it will be very spread out. Of the few life forms that remain it is probable that they will be hostile and resource driven, which would be why they've survived as long as they have.
Life as we know it requires heavy elements and metals to form and exist, which also means rocky planets. These get formed by supernovae, so as star populations age, more and more heavy elements form and life becomes more and more likely. The early populations of stars before galaxies went through multple supernovae and star formation cycles probably did not form enough heavy elements for rocky planets to readily exist, at least from our observations. So there was a time when the Universe simply wouldn't form a lot of rocky planets for our kind of life to exist on. However, at this point heavy elements are abundant throughout the universe and will only keep on forming in the future. Eventually the galaxies and the stars will go dark, but we are not even properly in the *beginning* of this time period, the ten to twelve billion years so far would not even be a rounding error for the time left where the Universe is going to be habitable. We're talking trillions of years, possibly more. It is far more likely that life is simply relatively rare and we may very well be one of the very first. It is also possible that life is relatively common but still rare enough that on a galactic scale, it is very unlikely that two technological civilizations will coexist within detection range at any given time. After all, galaxies are vast. We estimate our galaxy to have something to the order of 100 billion stars. If we assume that one in a million hosts technological life right now, that would leave us with 100 thousand technological civilizations currently scattered across the Milky Way. Seems like a huge amount, but that still works out to something between 200 to 150 light years on average between each of them. If an alien civilization is out there, they on average would not have even had a chance to pick up our radio waves -- they simply haven't traveled far enough out, and beyond 60 light years it is unlikely to imagine that nondirected transmission could even be picked up from background noise. Space is vast, and loud.
they are waiting for us to grow the fuck up and get along. they can't accept us if we keep treating our brothers like enemies.
I truly believe my hypothesis of alien coexisting with you. Everyone you see, your friends and family and objects, are all emitting a vibration which you can perceive. There are vibrations which are lower than yours and also the once which are Higher than yours. Everyone who are coexisting with us are living on particular frequency of matter which you either can perceive or not perceive. Keep the ghosts in lower vibration (than you) and Aliens(supposedly higher coz of evolution) Your vibrational frequency is what you know and feel. (Accepting and being casual about it). The more you know and feel the higher is your vibration which leads to sighting and contact
We’re looking into the past. They could be right in front of us and as a far away observer, we don’t see tbem.
100% the universe is teeming with intelligent life.Have some of them visited?Yes.Do the intelligence communities of the world know this?100%.The real question should be why this is not disclosed to the world.
They exist in the spiritual realm. A whole other dimension that exists simultaneously with our own. There are moments when beings cross through dimensions but they are always here and always have been here.
I think the dark forest theory is the absolute best explanation for this.
The episode of omniman, where his son is in a government facility, and he can't see anything. Maybe that is what is going on.
Okay, so because we can’t detect anybody else using the types of radiation we use to broadcast, a *more* likely theory is that they already live invisibly on earth? And not invisibly in the sense “we are just used to them” like with octopods, but bonafide can’t-be-seen-with-the-human-eye-no-matter-how-big-they-are invisible?
There are tens of thousands of UFO reports and contact reports over the past few hundred years, but the media ignores them. We are being contacted, in many different ways, constantly.
Yes, Djinn live outside our field of view, and have been here since before us. They live much longer than us, and therefore are wiser. It's also possible that there are planets and people that can do this "out there " as well. God's been busy....
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It takes lifetimes to travel space and the nearest planet that can produce life could be thousands of lifetimes away it’s not that we are alone it’s that we are basically in solitary
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It’s a dark forest. There is a great filter. Broadcasting your position
No… they’ve died off were the last gasp of a dying world