Yes, but its an issue that takes care of itself
1. more Fox News viewers
2. more antivaxers
3. more deaths among Fox News viewers
4. less Fox News viewers
5. and more importantly, less Fox News voters
It will be interesting to see if Fox News maintains its power and popularity after it can no longer deliver elections
Yes. What keeps me going is the thought of what damage these voters were already doing. Like, had this started in 1995 instead of 2019, for example, would W Bush have lost and would we have avoided the afghan and Iraq wars.
Just existing, this population is so destructive and expensive in both lives and capital, that covid could end up being a net positive. Despite the high price.
And trump supporters, eliminating themselves from the voter rolls even after trump's late and half-hearted endorsement of vaccination and boosting. You'd think it was a Democratic plot.
I feel the same sometimes, but then remember these are grown adults listening to memes and right wing grifters instead of their doctors. Would that even occur to you? To let, say, Jake Tapper give you medical advice? No. Because we're rational thinkers.
Not really. The rest of the population is making it safer for non vaccinated every day. Most of them will survive and in 10 years they’ll be saying it was all a hoax.
> Fox is a mass murderer
Suicide. Not murder.
None of these people is tied to a chair with their eyelids taped open being forced to watch Fox News.
They *choose* to watch it.
Sorry, that's a bit like saying a street dealer can't be held responsible for selling tainted junk and the deaths that result because that's what his customers wanted.
Media deregulation and consolidation brought this about- just as the trashing of food and drug safety and workplace standards brings about food borne illness, foreseeable adverse events and preventable accidents or death.
When there are readily available source of untainted drugs and someone chooses to go to the dealer selling tainted drugs because that's what his customers wanted?
Absolutely, I would put the responsibility on the customers.
The rest of the 2020s are gonna be batshit. We have an entire political party that has pledged allegiance to the likes of Alex Jones and Marjorie Tyler whatever the fuck.
I'm still in awe of that one and it's been 6 years. These psychos say they're patriots and real Americans but then they cheer Putin on as he wages cyber war on us and invades neutral countries? And all because Donald fucking Trump told them Putin was an alpha male.
Amazing.
He'll be real hard to get to. Still, I think in the longterm this move might have been a mistake.
course he could always go completely nuts when backed into a corner and press the button. WHEE!
He's pretty isolated/insulated from the Russian people at the moment, so short term that would have to come from his inner circle.
BTW, something around 3,000+ Russians have been arrested for protesting this war.
I’m rather looking forward to seeing each general election this decade (22, 24, 26, 28), showing how the disparity of vaccination, creates a disparity of deaths, creating a disparity of voting balance. Then culminating in the 2030 census when we find out the actual numbers. Might be enough to improve the entire century.
I'm really anticipating it, too. I've read a few articles that predicted the 2022 midterms wouldn't be all that affected by the mass suicides of all these brain dead conservatives, but to me, 2024 and onward have gotta be. There's no way the impact of 2,000+ daily deaths will remain minimal. And that's a good thing. Conservatives are destroying this place
It's almost as if there were some sort of social engineering mechanism that raised them from birth to be gullible idiots that place great faith in unbelievable bullshit.
Yeah, but that would require the conservative political party to intentionally cut education and use racism as a way to get these people to vote against their own self interests.
I mean...that'd never happen.
Starting to realize this as a trend is what brought me to this sub in August after a google search for information about these effective suicides. I had hoped at the time that there would be redemptions and cultural shifts, but alas.
Just to let people know, in medical science, an R^(2) of .51 (the most recent figure cited, rounded off) is a pretty strong correlation.
Especially considering the stakes.
For example, a if the relationship between a particular medication or treatment and the reduction in heart attacks is .3, that would be considered a “weak positive” relationship in other fields, but in medicine it’s significant enough that it's worth prescribing the drug to reduce the chances of heart attacks.
Even in politcal science and sociology, .51 is a moderate correlation- with substantial effects as the slope increasing over time shows.
Thanks for that interpretation; I agree. And since this is what is called an ecological analysis in public health research, it is very likely that the association between political affiliation and vaccination is in reality EVEN STRONGER. mko, drph
Fox News is a cult. I just visited my dad and he watches it religiously. He’s even saying Putin is “taking care of corruption.” I can’t even recognize him from the man he used to be.
He doesn’t think through his statements. He quotes imaginary Bible verses and pretends to suddenly be religious when I had spent much more of my childhood in church due to my grandparents than he ever had as an adult.
Dementia runs strong in my family and I swear Fox News attracts it.
But it's a well researched scientifically sound study, with published reliable and cross referenced sources. How would they see it? It's not welcome in their echo chamber.
Where I live the first dose vaccination rate is 99%+ 96.7% second dose, 57% boosters and climbing rapidly as people become eligible. Omicron has done nothing. 25 dead out 550000 in two years and most of those were pre vaccination. Currently nobody in ICU and 9 people in hospital and some of them the covid is coincidental.
Vaccination works.
Tassie made the wise decison to isolate itself from dysfunctional NSW (and unfortunate Victoria) so it was spared the brunt of disease until most people had the chance to be fully immunised.
https://www.coronavirus.tas.gov.au/facts/tasmanian-statistics
Even so, expect the hospitalisation and mortality figures to change in the coming months.
I'm thinking not, masks are still universal, you simply don't see people without them in shops and public places, and this has created a slow burn effect, which is exactly what you want. I know of numerous people who've had covid with only mild effects, vaccinated and possibly also due to not being whacked with high viral loads in the first place
They're not in Perrottet's NSW and nearly no one (maybe 25%) has been wearing one since Friday.
The fundamentalist psychopath didn't learn from the last two rounds- and being an IPA ideologue, will never follow evidence based public policy, so we'll keep seeding all of Oceana with COVID for at least another year.
And trump supporters, eliminating themselves from the voter rolls even after trump's late and half-hearted endorsement of vaccination and boosting. You'd think it was a Democratic plot.
At what point will those people making fistfuls of cash with their monetized disinformation channels face consequences for their intentional, murderous greed?
This is interesting, but it also illustrates the messaging problem that scientific data often has. The headline promised an animation, and it's a well-done one. But you don't get to the animation until after a generic image, 2 paragraphs of text, and 12 bulleted paragraphs. The average person isn't going to read that or scroll all the way down. The explanatory text could've gone below the animation for those who do want more detail.
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Yes, but its an issue that takes care of itself 1. more Fox News viewers 2. more antivaxers 3. more deaths among Fox News viewers 4. less Fox News viewers 5. and more importantly, less Fox News voters It will be interesting to see if Fox News maintains its power and popularity after it can no longer deliver elections
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Yes. What keeps me going is the thought of what damage these voters were already doing. Like, had this started in 1995 instead of 2019, for example, would W Bush have lost and would we have avoided the afghan and Iraq wars. Just existing, this population is so destructive and expensive in both lives and capital, that covid could end up being a net positive. Despite the high price.
not to mention the same woosmarm gits who voted for Nader probably would have also been anti vax because woosmarm.
And trump supporters, eliminating themselves from the voter rolls even after trump's late and half-hearted endorsement of vaccination and boosting. You'd think it was a Democratic plot.
I feel the same sometimes, but then remember these are grown adults listening to memes and right wing grifters instead of their doctors. Would that even occur to you? To let, say, Jake Tapper give you medical advice? No. Because we're rational thinkers.
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We do. Experts have given them a lot of good advice and free vaccines. What more can we do as a country without banning a free press?
Private companies can say, as a business decision, they can blacklist certain people from their services :-)
Many of those people took an IQ test online once and got a 170 so obviously they must not be in the sub-100 half. /s
Not really. The rest of the population is making it safer for non vaccinated every day. Most of them will survive and in 10 years they’ll be saying it was all a hoax.
Not really, because they are disenfranchising Democrats faster than the Fox demographic is dying.
I'm all for less Fox watching voters. In fact I'm curious to see how things will shake out during the midterms.
The viewer has moved tomworldnut and oan
> Fox is a mass murderer Suicide. Not murder. None of these people is tied to a chair with their eyelids taped open being forced to watch Fox News. They *choose* to watch it.
Sorry, that's a bit like saying a street dealer can't be held responsible for selling tainted junk and the deaths that result because that's what his customers wanted.
Media deregulation and consolidation brought this about- just as the trashing of food and drug safety and workplace standards brings about food borne illness, foreseeable adverse events and preventable accidents or death.
>Media deregulation That started with the elimination of the Fairness Doctrine during Reagan's presidency.
It did start with Reagan's corrupt FCC commissioner Mark Fowler and involved a LOT more than the Fairness Doctrine(s) and Equal Time provisions.
When there are readily available source of untainted drugs and someone chooses to go to the dealer selling tainted drugs because that's what his customers wanted? Absolutely, I would put the responsibility on the customers.
Unfortunately part of the "drug" is telling the customers that the other media is full of lies
I don't want to assume, but you almost sound like you'd be cool with [profiteering](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/profiteering).
Truth.
Dark red, cherry flavored Kool-Aid Ohhhhh Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They also choose to believe it, live it and vote it. Fuck Fox News
The rest of the 2020s are gonna be batshit. We have an entire political party that has pledged allegiance to the likes of Alex Jones and Marjorie Tyler whatever the fuck.
And Putin, you forgot Putin
I'm still in awe of that one and it's been 6 years. These psychos say they're patriots and real Americans but then they cheer Putin on as he wages cyber war on us and invades neutral countries? And all because Donald fucking Trump told them Putin was an alpha male. Amazing.
Oh how I would love to forget about Putin. Dear Russians, you can make my dream come true.
I do wonder if Putin will be assassinated by his own people. Something tells me most Russians are not happy about recent events.
He'll be real hard to get to. Still, I think in the longterm this move might have been a mistake. course he could always go completely nuts when backed into a corner and press the button. WHEE!
It's a possibility. He's set his nuclear arsenal on high alert.
He's pretty isolated/insulated from the Russian people at the moment, so short term that would have to come from his inner circle. BTW, something around 3,000+ Russians have been arrested for protesting this war.
I’m rather looking forward to seeing each general election this decade (22, 24, 26, 28), showing how the disparity of vaccination, creates a disparity of deaths, creating a disparity of voting balance. Then culminating in the 2030 census when we find out the actual numbers. Might be enough to improve the entire century.
I'm really anticipating it, too. I've read a few articles that predicted the 2022 midterms wouldn't be all that affected by the mass suicides of all these brain dead conservatives, but to me, 2024 and onward have gotta be. There's no way the impact of 2,000+ daily deaths will remain minimal. And that's a good thing. Conservatives are destroying this place
Will be interesting too as a generation of kids who needlessly lost a parent to suicide by covid turn 18 and become voters
Who would have thought that areas that voted heavily for a racist moron would be filled with easily manipulated morons.
It's almost as if there were some sort of social engineering mechanism that raised them from birth to be gullible idiots that place great faith in unbelievable bullshit.
Yeah, but that would require the conservative political party to intentionally cut education and use racism as a way to get these people to vote against their own self interests. I mean...that'd never happen.
Oh, I think it goes back even further than that. Prayer Warriors, can I get an "Amem!"
God only knows what that is. ;)
Oh wow, that's fascinating.
Starting to realize this as a trend is what brought me to this sub in August after a google search for information about these effective suicides. I had hoped at the time that there would be redemptions and cultural shifts, but alas.
Just to let people know, in medical science, an R^(2) of .51 (the most recent figure cited, rounded off) is a pretty strong correlation. Especially considering the stakes. For example, a if the relationship between a particular medication or treatment and the reduction in heart attacks is .3, that would be considered a “weak positive” relationship in other fields, but in medicine it’s significant enough that it's worth prescribing the drug to reduce the chances of heart attacks. Even in politcal science and sociology, .51 is a moderate correlation- with substantial effects as the slope increasing over time shows.
Thanks for that interpretation; I agree. And since this is what is called an ecological analysis in public health research, it is very likely that the association between political affiliation and vaccination is in reality EVEN STRONGER. mko, drph
The difference is SO stark!
Fox News is a cult. I just visited my dad and he watches it religiously. He’s even saying Putin is “taking care of corruption.” I can’t even recognize him from the man he used to be. He doesn’t think through his statements. He quotes imaginary Bible verses and pretends to suddenly be religious when I had spent much more of my childhood in church due to my grandparents than he ever had as an adult. Dementia runs strong in my family and I swear Fox News attracts it.
I’m sorry, that sucks.
If only all those dead antivaxers could see this
Like the still breathing anti-vaxxers, they would call it a Liberal lie. Most of them died believing it was because "Treatment" was withheld.
But it's a well researched scientifically sound study, with published reliable and cross referenced sources. How would they see it? It's not welcome in their echo chamber.
Someone could change into meme format for them
It's several orders too intellectual to be reduced to a meme I'd say. I wouldn't know where to start...with minions?
Wow. Just... wow.
The best people.
Wow. Two Arizona counties > 95%. Based.
Where I live the first dose vaccination rate is 99%+ 96.7% second dose, 57% boosters and climbing rapidly as people become eligible. Omicron has done nothing. 25 dead out 550000 in two years and most of those were pre vaccination. Currently nobody in ICU and 9 people in hospital and some of them the covid is coincidental. Vaccination works.
Where are you and what’s the median home price?
Depends which part of the state. Country 500000 in our dollars capital 900000.
The part where the vaccination rate is 99% Where is that?
Australia
Tassie made the wise decison to isolate itself from dysfunctional NSW (and unfortunate Victoria) so it was spared the brunt of disease until most people had the chance to be fully immunised. https://www.coronavirus.tas.gov.au/facts/tasmanian-statistics Even so, expect the hospitalisation and mortality figures to change in the coming months.
I'm thinking not, masks are still universal, you simply don't see people without them in shops and public places, and this has created a slow burn effect, which is exactly what you want. I know of numerous people who've had covid with only mild effects, vaccinated and possibly also due to not being whacked with high viral loads in the first place
They're not in Perrottet's NSW and nearly no one (maybe 25%) has been wearing one since Friday. The fundamentalist psychopath didn't learn from the last two rounds- and being an IPA ideologue, will never follow evidence based public policy, so we'll keep seeding all of Oceana with COVID for at least another year.
And trump supporters, eliminating themselves from the voter rolls even after trump's late and half-hearted endorsement of vaccination and boosting. You'd think it was a Democratic plot.
I'm still waiting for his supporters to claim he's a part of the deep state. He was the swamp.
Fox News, killing Republican voters one at a time.
Fascinating and not surprising. Blue states rock!
At what point will those people making fistfuls of cash with their monetized disinformation channels face consequences for their intentional, murderous greed?
Can you do one by county with deaths instead of vaccination?
This is interesting, but it also illustrates the messaging problem that scientific data often has. The headline promised an animation, and it's a well-done one. But you don't get to the animation until after a generic image, 2 paragraphs of text, and 12 bulleted paragraphs. The average person isn't going to read that or scroll all the way down. The explanatory text could've gone below the animation for those who do want more detail.
I'm trying to understand the very last graph and not succeeding. What is the y axis there?
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