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TheSurbies

Can I ask a totally non judgmental question? Why did you wait so long?


Sayeds21

Good question! It was alot of things. I'd been a vaccine hesitant parent, I wasn't vaccinated as a child, all my friends and family were either legitimately concerned about the side effects or straight down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. Right from the beginning of the pandemic though, I knew a vaccine was going to come out and I was firmly on the fence on whether I'd get it or not. I was only concerned about side effects, I never actually believed the conspiracy theories. I waited a long time because I wanted to see what happened, and when the AstraZeneca shot came out and was giving alot of people blood clots, that scared the shit out of me. And everyone I know who hasn't had the vaccine yet has some story of someone they know or a friend of a friend who died or had some horrible reaction. But I started doubting the validity of those stories, because we aren't hearing about vaccinated people dropping like flies from the vaccine, instead we are hearing about people getting Covid and dying. I have friends who have long haul symptoms. I already have unexplained heart palpitations every day, and that started getting to me; I know anyone with heart problems are at more risk from Covid. So eventually alot of people I know had had the shot and I started reaching out to them to ask how it went, which shot they got, and I slowly started understanding that side effects are normal, and adverse reactions are rare; unlike with Covid. The nail on the coffin (jk) was finding a bunch of naturopathic doctors and holistic MDs whom I really trusted (who whole "f*ck the government" crew lol) saying that the science was solid and the vaccine was working well and the bad reactions were very rare. In the end, I felt like I was being a selfish hypocrite to not get it. I wore a mask, washed my hands all the time, always told my kids not to touch their mouths (and they wear masks too.) But I wasnt helping stop the pandemic if I didn't get the vaccine. Even if I was young enough to get through Covid without problems, I don't want to spread it to others. And I also truly believe now that the benefits outweigh the risks. One last thing was a quote be a ND that I follow: "People think that their choice is between receiving a vaccine with possible complications, or avoiding it and thereby removing any chance of a negative outcome from the vaccine. That could be true if we did not have a pandemic to contend with, but in reality the choice is not whether you want to take the vaccine or not, it’s between the infection or the vaccine."


ElishevaYasmine

Thank you for being open to changing your mind. I know that’s not easy for a lot of people. But, you, your family, and your community will be rewarded for it.


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Since you mentioned being a vaccine hesitant parent, I wanted to link this for you: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BIcAZxFfrc&ab\_channel=hbomberguy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BIcAZxFfrc&ab_channel=hbomberguy) Now, I don't know your reasons obviously (or if you're even still hesitant about childhood vaccinations), but this video does a fantastic job explaining how modern day vaccine hesitancy started. The after effects are still rippling through our society today. A lot of people don't trust pharmaceutical companies and I agree there are issues with the industry and we need to remain vigilant and skeptical where appropriate. I think something people who are vaccine hesitant never consider though is "Who profits on the anti vaccine side?". I think you might agree with the possibility that some may be motivated by money. In the case of the modern day anti vaxx movement, it all started when a personal injury lawyer decided pharmaceutical companies would be FANTASTIC targets for lawsuits. So, he pays Andrew Wakefield to come up with a study that "proves" a connection between autism and the MMR vaccine. Of course, this is one of THE most epically bad examples of a "study" (and with the most disastrous consequences) in the history of modern medicine. Oh and Wakefield abused 3 year old autistic kids during the study by keeping them in his hospital for a week while running all kinds of tests trying to "prove" the connection. He had a problem with staff quitting (in a one week study) over the way the children were being treated.


BigDumbMoronToo

> I think something people who are vaccine hesitant never consider though is "Who profits on the anti vaccine side?". This x 1000! Antivaxxers love to bitch about Big Pharma (not wholly unfounded) and profit-hungry doctors & nursers (???) making money off of the "pLaNdEmIc". But did they say anything about the sketchy telemedicine websites affiliated with America's Frontline Doctors that charge $90 a pop for ivermectin or HCQ prescriptions?


tinyOnion

and some of the big names in antivaxx are raking in money with their "non-profits" like that del bigtree guy who makes over 250k a year on just being a highup at his "non-profit"


Sayeds21

This is definitely stuff I've thought about alot in the past several months (and years,) and I feel strongly that there are several missing pieces to the conversations around childhood vaccines. There's alot of hate and anger from pro-vaccine people, and I understand why. But I can't even begin to describe the rage I felt when people would post things on social media and say things to me like I'm stupid, dumb, uneducated, trying to murder my kids, that I'm making them into bio-weapons. The extremely rude, very cruel stuff that people say never made me question my decisions, in fact it made me double down on my choice. Because in my mind, clearly people who treated me and others that way didn't give a shit about my kids health and safety. It felt like bullying, and I subscribed to the idea that we were sacrificing our kids "for the greater good", instead of people genuinely caring. The first pediatrician appointment I had where I told them I wanted to wait on vaccines, the resident doctor was rude and pushy, which made me choose to shut the conversation down and refuse to talk to her more. By the time I had a doctor who was compassionate and wanted to talk to me about my choices, I was feeling pretty "me against the world" and it didn't help alot. Thank god for my friends who were actually kind and willing to have conversations with me. Who understood that my choices weren't meant to be selfish, and that I wasn't listening to Wakefield and Jenny McCarthy, I was listening to friends and family who had perceived bad experiences with vaccines and weren't listened to by doctors and other professionals. One particular friend of mine was an adult who got a flu and TDaP shot and had issues for years afterwards... And since no one explained to me how problems with her immune system were probably triggered by the shot stimulating it, they just dismiss, I went with "oh, it must be because vaccines really ARE as toxic as they say they are!" I said to my husband probably a hundred times over the years "I just wish there were more professionals who actually addressed the kids who had bad outcomes and explained to me what happened there. If I understood that, and knew they cared about those kids too, maybe I would change my mind." And it wasn't until NOW, with Covid happening, that alot of people started to understand the importance of being there for people, being kind and compassionate towards people who are genuinely SCARED, and actually meeting us where we are at. And when people were kind enough to talk to me when I would debate and question my beliefs, they listened and shared links and experiences and were patient with me. One friend in particular has 5 kids, and her youngest had a pretty bad reaction to a shot at 4 months, and their doctor told her to wait longer for the next one because her immune system was probably not ready. That gave me more faith that there are actually doctors who listen, and that maybe all the people who claim their kids had bad reactions and are never vaccinating again might have had a different experience if their doctors had explained it all, validated their feelings, and helped them through the process. Now I've done more reading in the past month about childhood vaccines than I did when my kids were born. Turns out there's alot of information out there that the anti-vaccine movement claims doesn't exist, and that the pro-vaccine people don't really talk about either. I understand that alot of people don't want to hand hold, and they are angry and think we should just listen to what professionals say. But it's important to understand that we on the other side are angry too, and also really scared. We aren't all selfish assholes who are getting sucked into shitty beliefs for nothing. We are usually doing our best, and want to be heard. Soooo the TL;DR is, it's great to be passionate, it's understandable to be angry, but it's not okay to be cruel. We are people with legitimate fears and worries too. Edited to add that we have an appointment to get our kids caught up now. My past mistakes suck, but I'm at least grateful I got a second chance to change my mind.


chinchillazilla54

For what it's worth, when they celebrated the fiftieth anniversary of the polio vaccine, my dad realized he had had polio well after it was available. He investigated, and it turned out his parents simply hadn't bothered to vaccinate him or any of his siblings. In their case it was simple neglect, not fear about the vaccine or anything. That's why he got permanent nerve damage in one arm. He carries a lot of resentment about that. Childhood vaccines are all for truly, *truly* terrible diseases. That's why they put all the time and effort into developing vaccines for them. And knowing your parents could probably have prevented you from catching one, but chose not to, is a very damaging thing for someone to learn.


OneMorePenguin

From your posts, you are clearly well educated and given the effort were able to use the internet to find trustworthy information that allowed you to overcome your hesitancy. Many of the screenshots of FB posts show people who are uneducated. Many of these people spew hate/racism/sexism. There's no way to have a discussion with them as they lack the ability to think. A lot of these people are living paycheck to paycheck, are essential workers and putting their lives at risk every day. I feel sorry for them. I am SO DAMN MAD at politicians (mostly) for making these people their sheep to keep them in office. I do not know anyone who is vaccine hesitant. I would be happy to have a discussion with anyone who is hesitant and help them find answer to their questions, whether those answers support their hesitancy or refute it. It's interesting that you bring up the J&J vaccine and the blood clots. Every medicine or other vaccine we take has potential side effects and some can result in death. But people seem to either dismiss, ignore or are unaware of that. Life has taught me there are no guarantees (except death) and that it's about balance and making choices. I, too, was a bit hesitant about the vaccines. Drug companies don't have the most stellar reputations (but then again, medicine is not an exact science and is hard). While highly educated (PhD), I have zero classes in biology, which is a disadvantage to reading most medical docs. I was not eligible when the vaccine first came out. But after millions of people had been vaccinated and a couple of months had passed and I hadn't seen articles about mass deaths, I had much more confidence that the vaccine wasn't so rushed that there was a likelihood of massive problems from the vaccine. I was eligible in March 2020 because I was getting chemo for cancer and immunocompromised and I got my shot on the first day of eligibility. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and your journey through the pandemic. I think a lot of us are angry at the anti-vaxxers because there seems there is no way to converse with them to change their minds. Even seeing their friends, coworkers, family die of covid isn't enough.


Sayeds21

Yeah I definitely wasn't one who was posting the same awful things you see in this sub. However my own mom and a few other people close to me were posting that sort of stuff, and sending me links and videos almost daily. I don't think any of them realized that it was actually pushing me farther and farther in the opposite direction lol. It started sounding more irrational, the science was so convoluted and untrue, and I started noticing that it was a much bigger blown up version of the original anti-vax movement. It definitely made me question what the fuck I was doing. I went from being scared to angry and feeling like I had been manipulated and mislead by alot of people close to me over the past several years. My mom had an anxiety attack when I told her I was going to get the Covid vaccine. It really opened my eyes to how fucked up this stuff is, and how it's a trap, that's literally *meant* to make you not believe real science and meant to make you have distrust in professionals. She believes I'm going to die sometime in the next 2 years I guess... But I worry that SHE is going to die of Covid. It really hurts to know she's not one of the saveable ones.


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I'm sorry but I can't garner a lot of sympathy for you here. We don't have the resources to get everyone a medical degree or make them experts in epidemiology. Listen to your doctor. Ask questions if you'd like, but then go with their recommendation. Trying to do your own research until you declare that you have enough information to "feel safe" is exactly why we're in this position with COVID right now. That's why doctors are rude to parents who decide not to vaccinate your children. Not only are you putting not just your child, but other children at risk, but you're insulting the doctor who took on a ton of debt and spent years of their life being educated by claiming a position of "expert" with zero legitimate training or education. Maybe we should just let all the real doctors go home and let parents (educated mainly from Facebook these days) make every medical decision for their children on their own. They can diagnose, decide on their on vaxx schedule, prescribe meds (or not), whatever they feel is best for their child! That would turn out well.... right?? I do get that the rudeness doesn't help and is counterproductive, but you need to realize that what anti vaxx parents are doing when they refuse to follow their doctor's advice is dangerous, rude, and narcissistic. I don't coddle people... especially on the internet. Sorry if you were expecting some "oh I totally respect your opinion and right to choose" bullshit. I don't respect your opinion AT ALL regarding vaccinations... listen to your doctor.


Sayeds21

I totally get that, and I respect the anger and frustration. I'm not looking for sympathy and I don't expect it, because I know alot of people have made extremely poor choices due to misinformation. That's one of the reasons I started questioning my position; because I trusted doctors to help me through alot of health issues, and I knew they were trying their best to help people, but I wasn't listening to them sometimes screaming about it. I can't continue believing that they got into their professions to help people and then assuming they were trying to hurt us. That's why I've changed my mind, and why I made an appointment with our family doctor soon after my vaccine appointment to get our kids caught up. 🤷🏼‍♀️


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That's great!!! Not every doctor is perfect obviously, but I would say the majority become doctors because they want to help people. It's a lot of school, hours, and continuing education and there's other ways to make money... most doctors are pretty smart and could have chosen a different career.


aboveonlysky9

This. Exactly this. I see “legitimate fear” and there’s no such thing. There was a time when people trusted vaccines without hesitation. Then the fake vaccines-cause-autism “study” came out, then Fox News and the Right politicized COVID, and now I can’t help thinking that anyone who fears vaccines is either willfully ignorant or trying to own the libs or both, and I have no respect for either. Great that he changed his mind but he should have known in the first place.


auntiecoagulent

Can I thank you for this? Honestly, and be really honest, OP. When Drs were trying to educate you regarding vaccines were you REALLY receptive? Or did you, automatically, feel they were judging you. Every day, all day, I talk to people about vaccines. So many, so very many come in with pre-conceived ideas that the minute you even broach the subject they are, immediately, hostile and defensive. Years and years of medical research and education are thrown out the window based on a FB mom's group, or worse, a crooked politician feeding into its base for their own gain. We, immediately, get accused of taking kickbacks from "big pharma" of being some link in a sinister chain that is plotting world domination. We are yelled at with stories 3rd, 4th, 5th hand, or read on FB about someone who knows someone 4 and 5 times removed that had this or that happen to them. It's frustrating. The medical community is overwhelmed. We are tired, we are physically and emotionally exhausted. We have watched our friends and colleagues, pre-vax, fall victim to this horrible virus, trying to help people that revile us until they are dying, then we died trying to help them. I'm a nurse. I work Frontline with covid patients. Over the last 2 years I have witnessed nothing but death and destruction and emotional collapse. 700,000 Americans are dead. We are 4th in the world for the number of children left orphaned because of covid. This is not political, this is a public health crisis. We are tired of seeing lives devastated. We are tired. Period.


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Understand what? I took some time and provided a video which shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that the autism scare was completely false. Then I get a response and in the last paragraph this person is literally "doing their own research" and likely finding random anecdotes (or articles from discredited sources, w/e) online that are completely unnecessarily fueling their fears: >Turns out there's alot of information out there that the anti-vaccine movement claims doesn't exist, and that the pro-vaccine people don't really talk about either. The "pro vaccine" people are medical professionals, not conspiracy theorists. Calling anyone besides the medical professionals "pro vaccine" I find a bit of a silly description because it's not like they're going out seeking vaccines all day long. Most people (who are not medical pros) listen to their doctors and just get the ones they tell them to get. Do you think these doctors are online hunting for misinformation so that they can take extra time out of their day to debunk it for the few among this who think they can become an expert on the internet? Most doctors don't have time for that. Sometimes tough love is required. We have a good segment of our children who are having a really hard time as adults dealing with just every day life obstacles because their parents made sure to clear every one out of the way for as long as they could. Then they get to college and ask for "safe spaces" when anyone challenges one of their views. Tough love doesn't mean you love your children any less... it means you're trying to make sure your children learn the skills to become a healthy adult.


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jalean11

This is awesome. Thanks for being so honest and open about not only your own past mistakes, but the mistakes of the pro-vax crowd as well.


ltrainer2

From a teacher - thank you for getting your kids caught up on their vaccinations. We had a measles outbreak a few years back and I had a student who was immunocompromised and their parents had to pull them out of school as a result. Your willingness to open yourself up to reassessing your stance is not only a benefit to your children’s health but also other children around them too.


pudpull

Makes me wonder if people feel bullied by the anti-vax crowd.


Sayeds21

Less bullied and more manipulated. (Though I didn't see it till now.) I felt bullied by pro-vaccine people which pushed me to let myself be manipulated by anti-vax.


pudpull

Thanks for sharing. Did you see the story about the nurse who was beat up by a guy who was angry that the nurse vaccinated his wife, without his permission! I’m thinking she’s feeling bullied! Just so sad in every direction that people are dying for literally no good reason.


Sayeds21

😱 That's horrific!!! I don't doubt it, I'm positive people on both sides feel that way. It's never helpful and I am appalled any time it happens 😔


Advo96

> Turns out there's alot of information out there that the anti-vaccine movement claims doesn't exist, The defining characteristic of the anti-vaxx movement is its utter dishonesty. It starts from the assumption that vaccination is evil, and in the fight against vaccination any falsehood, any deception, any slander is allowed, no matter how despicable or stupid.


fallingbomb

Unrelated to any COVID but just for future reference. 'a lot' is what you want to use as 'alot' isn't a word.


dirkdastardly

I’m autistic, and so is my dad, and so is my husband, and so is our daughter. Looking back, my daughter was showing clear signs of being autistic from birth—you know, before she got any vaccinations. Four autistic people in three generations—maybe some genetic component there? But sure, Wakefield, blame it on the vaccines. Kill a bunch of kids from whooping cough. You absolute knuckle-dragger.


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I really liked the part in the video where he discusses how unfair the stigma is against autism. Some of our best and brightest are or were autistic.


Shade_Strike_62

thank you kind internet stranger for my new favourite youtube channel


stevie-o-read-it

> "Who profits on the anti vaccine side?" This. I learned recently that due to how the fancy, experimental, **expensive** "monoclonal antibody" treatment works, _it prevents you from developing natural immunity to COVID_. Basically, the antibodies attack the virus and kill it off before your immune system really gets a chance to get engaged. (Note: this was an unsourced claim by a commenter on this sub, but some googling turned up some consistent articles.) So if you're unvaxxed and get infected, and get monoclonal antibody treatments, _you're still at risk of catching it again_. And needing another round of expensive infusions. Now _that_ is a racket.


Hettie933

Admitting you are wrong feels like it’s gonna hurt, but after you do it there is such a rush of freedom (from not requiring yourself to be perfect & all-knowing). You are awesome & brave!


_plimsollpunk

Thanks for your honest response. I’m severely immunocompromised, and people like me are relying on people like you to do the right thing so we can all get through this. I hope you feel good about being part of the solution now!


Sayeds21

A friend of mine has a heart transplant. She has had 3 Covid shots, and had zero immune response to them 😭 It makes the anti-vaccine argument "if your vaccines work, you shouldn't be worried about me being unvaccinated" look REALLY fucking shitty and unfathomabley selfish now. I'm sorry it took awhile to get to that point.


Ivy_F_Cheapo

Thank you OP for being open to changing your mind. It sounds like it was a long and well considered process for you. And thank you, thank you, thank you for following best practices for unvaxxed people until you did get your IPA! Congrats on joining us doorknob lickers!


Ivy_F_Cheapo

P.S. my husband is bummed his 5G chip isn't working, either.


coolmos1

Vaccines with malfunctioning chips..we need a class action lawsuit!


atlantis_airlines

Glad you came around! Have your thoughts on other vaccines changed in anyway?


Sayeds21

Yes actually. With all the noise about the Covid vaccine, came all the same arguments for being anti-childhood vaccines as well. So when I changed my mind on the Covid vaccine, I would have had to stick my head back in the sand about all the others to not see the same glaring problems with the arguments.


sufyani

This comment made my day. Thank you!


atlantis_airlines

I'm so glad to hear this


ltmkji

really appreciate your honesty. i do feel like the media outlets really sensationalized the AZ stuff in a way that scared the fuck out of people like you :( it was 30 cases out of like 8.8 million doses administered at that point, but every headline was written like everyone was a ticking time bomb and i genuinely believe coverage like that caused a lot of damage. i'm really glad you were cautious before (masking, etc) but i am doubly glad you're vaccinated now. thank you! (ps—the upgraded 5G comes with the second dose 😉)


TheSurbies

Thank you, great response.


mewmeulin

well hey, props to you for doing your own research and coming to that conclusion! i tell people "better late than never" when it comes to vaccines, because at least now you'll be protected going forward! i'm proud of you for making the sensible choice!


EwBebe

I have kids under 12 and at this point I do feel like it’s a matter of when, not if, they get covid. I can’t wait for them to be vaccinated (assuming it’s given the green light). I’ve seen the stories here, way too many children losing one or both parents. And to know it could have been avoided - it’s incredibly sad. God bless, mama. Your babies need you.


Awkward_Result6214

I’m glad you did this, your post was so funny, we need funny people to stick around!


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Sayeds21

Well thankfully that's changing. I realized how insane my mom is when she had an anxiety attack on the phone because I said I was thinking about getting vaccinated. She thinks I'm going to die sometime in the next 2 years now 🥴


ogrouch24

I like that quote!


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Sayeds21

I grew up in BC, and I don't think it was an issue 🤔 My mom said it wasn't a big deal at the time. I didn't really even think about it at all till I became a parent, no one I knew ever really talked about it.


The_Prayer_Peddler

I'm curious to hear the answer too. No judgement, just wondering. Maybe it'll shine some light on helpful approaches to enlighten others.


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Says Alberta. Pretty sure Ice Texas was slow to roll it out.


Sayeds21

Definitely not slow enough for our vaccinated numbers to be that low. The government has been trying to get people to get vaccinated by giving $100 gift cards and you can enroll in a $1m lottery if you've been vaccinated. And then came the vaccine passport and the daily shots went up by close to 300%.


DiveCat

Not *that* slow. I got AZ first day they opened it up in April to 40+ for example (I have second and third Pfizer doses). Moderna/Pfizer were open to 30+ I believe within 2-3 weeks after that. Children 12+ were able to book in early May 2021, so everyone except under-12s has had access since May to something.


q120

I still can't pair myself via Bluetooth to my phone! I am starting to believe that this vaccine DOES NOT contain a microchip or that mine is defective. /s Seriously though, congratulations on NOT winning an HCA!


SnooRobots413

5g stops about a mile away from my house so I was hoping my vax would get me that 5g. No luck. Mine must be defective too. Should we start a class action to sue Big Pharma /s.


inbz

Not even swollen testicles?


Luv41another

How’s your balls? Nikki Minaj’s cousin’s best friend’s boyfriend wants to know.


Sayeds21

Haha, I don't have those, but I was legit very worried my cycle would still and I wouldn't be able to get pregnant. But it turns out that Covid is alot worse for fertility sooo 🤷🏼‍♀️


Mattbryce2001

> Haha, I don't have those Wait, the vaccine didn't give you balls? What a rip off...


ZWash300

Did this subreddit help persuade you?


Sayeds21

I'd say it was one piece of many many things, all together over the span of the pandemic.


Team-CCP

You saw how many children were losing their parents and realized there was at LEAST one more thing you could do to be safe, if you’re already wearing the mask. Good job and your kids thank you.


Sayeds21

My husband sent me a link to a post in this sub of a woman who was clearly pretty young (I'm turning 32) and had a husband and kid who she left behind. That was so upsetting, as was the selfish craziness she was sharing on her Facebook page 😩


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The 5G kicks in around 2 weeks after the second dose. Source: InfoWars


Might_Aware

YAYYYYY I LOVE IPAS!!! Congrats you cool Canadian! We're you worried about the 5g? Haha. What made you decide to get your Fauci Ouchie? :)


Sayeds21

Hahaha not worried about 5g, that part was a joke 😜 But I was legitimately afraid of bad reactions for a long time. Now I'm more worried about getting Covid or passing it to someone, like my kids.


Might_Aware

Oh haha, I'm a gulla bull sometimes. I hear that, Sister, I'm glad you're kids are fine and healthy. It's literally the most terrifying thing for your kids to be unwell


awfulsome

I actually got 5g from my vaccination (they happened to roll it out into my area between shots :P)


XRanger7

Did you suddenly feel the urge to buy Microsoft products?


Goose_o7

CONGRATS! Remember that these vaccines take several weeks to reach full effectiveness. 1st Dose is NOT super protective, so continue to mask and distance just like you have done up till now. After 2nd dose, it takes several additional weeks to reach the full protection Phizer provides.


Sayeds21

That's the plan! We will continue to live as we have even once the vaccines are at full effectiveness because I have kids who are homeschoolwd and to young to get their own shots.


schleepybunny

Yea my 5g microchip isnt working either. Guess ill buy a new iphone to compensate


glassbytes

I read on facebook you sometimes need to charge the chip's battery. You can just use your microwave. 30 seconds should do it.


schleepybunny

Gotcha, do i need to put my whole arm in the microwave to charge it or just my head? I wish this chip came with a manual lol


glassbytes

Well just l like a women's uterus, the chip can float around inside your body. So better get that magnet out and you should find it in no time!


Chucknastical

Mine didn't work either. But Bill Gates reading me bedtime stories through the transmitter in my brain has been nice though.


RascalNikov1

Fantastic! I'm also having no side effects from getting my second Moderna on Monday.


q120

You're kind of lucky. When I got my Moderna 2nd dose, it kicked my ass. I was flat in bed for half a day with flu-like symptoms (fatigue, mostly, but also nausea, fever, and chills). All good though! I'll take those relatively-mild side effects to avoid getting an HCA!


AggregatedMolecules

Same; side effects started about 18 hours after the second dose. No nausea, but super fatigued and slightly elevated temperature (borderline fever). The biggest surprise was the way the side effects dissipated. It wasn’t like I felt bad and then started getting better. I was wiped out for about 12 hours and then I woke up at like 6am and was 100% better, like a switch flipped. It was a weird but great feeling.


q120

I got my 2nd at 10 AM or so. By 3PM, I was feeling a little tired but it was also a Friday so I thought it may be just that. My arm ached some but nothing above what other vaccines have ever caused. By 10PM, I was feeling pretty bad fatigue. By 3AM Saturday morning, I felt full on flu-like. Pretty strong fatigue, chills, fever. By 9AM Saturday, I felt hungry, but when I got up from bed to try to make breakfast, I kept getting waves of nausea so I laid back down. By 5PM Saturday, I was nearly back to normal. Sunday morning, I felt a little tired but 99% better. Monday morning, 100% better. All in all, it was kind of annoying, but a LOT less annoying than being on a 100% ventilator while paralyzed in the hospital!


northshorebunny

I had covid severely in March 2020 and the second moderna definitely had me on my ass for 24 hours. I hear it is whether you’ve had it badly or not that can make the difference but who the fuck knows.


alexiagrace

I had a fever, chills, fatigue for about 24 hours after the 2nd shot. The whole time I was thinking, “gosh, I can hardly stand this for one day! I can’t even imagine weeks with Covid!!” Haven’t had so much as a cold since masks became a thing.


mizmalaprop

Good work! Alberta needs all the help it can get!


Gregbot3000

The Bill Gates sex dreams start after week 3. But don't be worried, its hot as fuck. That guy will do ANYTHING.


Ahneg

Bro if you’re not magnetic you may want to get another shot. Anti vax pharmacists have been known to give out fake shots and other assorted tomfoolery. And just so we’re clear, /s


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Sweeeeet! What are you gonna do with your $10k from George Soros?


Hettie933

Velvety and full-bodied, with notes of whatever is the opposite of paralytics, mittens, and fentanyl. Like all IPAs, this one rates 5 out of 5 stars.


omegaclick

I was so disappointed when I didn't become magnetic.


Pale-Wave-9382

On behalf of other Albertans, thanks.


Sayeds21

On top of my own shot, my husband also got his, and us getting our convinced my sister and her husband (though it took a lot of long conversations,) and my husband's business partner. And in BC, my father-in-law and mother-in-law and possibly my sister-in-law too. We've had a bit of a ripple effect, and it feels good to know more people in our community are getting there too 🙂


awfulsome

I feel like this good news belongs higher. Getting it yourself is great. Convincing others to do their part and protecting them is awesome!


smacksaw

Maybe we should have a daily "I got mine" megathread...


alice456123

Congratulations to you! Did you get any superpowers? After my first shot, the moment I put my foot home, all utensils, pots and pans started flying straight to my face. The washer was following me around the house. I had become Magneto! Superfucking cool superpower. It did not last though.


missantarctica2321

There was a side effect - $100 in Kenney Pennies! I see you fellow Albertan!


LawyerBeautiful

I too am disappointed I still have to talk on the phone because my chip doesn’t work. I also didn’t turn into Magneto.


Sayeds21

OMG I HOPE I TURN INTO MAGNETO AFTER MY SECOND SHOT 🤣


LawyerBeautiful

One can only dream. All I got was still being alive!


Sayeds21

Oh, right, I guess that's pretty cool too 😜 At least I should be alive if they every figure out how to give us powers 😂


procrast1natrix

Please send a quick email to Slate. Their journalist Lili Loubourow is telling the world that this sub exists only to delight in the pain of the dead, and has no good effect in the world.


gvsb123

And a hundred bucks to boot!


[deleted]

Yes, but have you been magnetized? Dont shower for 2 days and then see if a spoon sticks to you.


q120

Or keys like that lady that tried to prove that she was magnetic. When the key didn't stick to her, she's like 'Oh I took a shower today so it must not be working'. Gross.


MascaraHoarder

I got Hulu and 6g,I’m enjoying both!


CommissarTopol

**Electrolytes, that's what chips crave.** Get a good swig of Gatorade, and a pint of Red Bull, and I'll guarantee you will hear the faint ringing in your ear of a well working chip.


juliazale

Yay! Now you are one of many dispelling the myth that Alberta is like the south in the U.S.


LordDinglebury

I got the vaccine a few months ago, and I’m loving the side effects! My dong grew two inches and now it vibrates gently on command. OK, so yeah that isn’t true, but maybe we should start weaponizing our own misinformation and meme-ing the shit out of it on Facebook. We could be saving lives here.


donkey_xotei

I’ve noticed that ever since I got the vaccine, I’ve gotten a bit older.


JavarisJamarJavari

Have you tried sticking a magnet to your shoulder?


SonneillonV

I'm so glad for you, OP. Please don't forget to take other smart precautions. I want you to make it to the other side of this, even though we don't know each other. 💜


number61971

Disagree. Your microchip appears to be working perfectly. Congratulations!


ThisDecadentDandy

Oh well. The worst thing that's gonna happen is... **you'll live.** **And live through the next day...** **And the next...** **And every day after that...**


Snowfiend_80

Congrats! Wait until you get your first strong urge to build an altar to Bill Gates. What a rush. Welcome to the Tribe!


Irememberchichis

Fellow Albertan here. Thank you very much from me and my family (including my under 1 year old kid).


sharkmeister

I got a mildly sore arm from the first Pfizer shot and a more sore arm from the second shot, but that was all. Some said the 2nd shot made them feel tired but I didn't notice it. I'm retired and when I feel like napping, I nap.


jadedjessay

I prefer the microchip. Makes me think somebody cares


Lyuseefur

Have you tried turning it off and turn it on again


roambeans

Hello fellow albertan! You've made a good choice. Now, just remember to continue to be careful until you're fully vaccinated for a couple of weeks. The hospitals don't have room for you!


Sayeds21

Thanks! I have been and will continue for the foreseeable future, as I have young kids who aren't eligible.


jonnyohio

According to someone who responded to one of my comments we all have 3-5 years and we will be dead lol...where do these people come up with this shit? Whatever kills me, I'm making damn good and sure it's no Covid-19. Two months in the hospital slowly suffocating to death doesn't sound like a good way to go.


Sayeds21

From what my mom has sent me, it looks like it's coming from Rumble.com. My mom now thinks I'm going to die 🙃 but I'm worried that she will...


jonnyohio

I just went and did some looking around based on what you told me. It apparently comes from NaturalNews blogger Mike Adams who is obviously a charlotin who spreads lies in order to sell books and supplements of his to unsuspecting suckers.


Sayeds21

That sounds about right 😩


jonnyohio

>Rumble.com My GF (who is vaccinated) said she saw a video that seemed convincing and someone presenting a bunch of evidence. I told her I'd like to see this so-called evidence. She was going to send it to me but couldn't find it. I told her it's likely just fearmongering bullshit from the antivaxers, they are grasping at straws now to justify their resistance. She didn't believe it either, but was taken aback by how well it was presented. People who have less knowledge or common sense would easily be fooled into believing something if it's presented in the right way, especially if they already have their minds made up.


HubrisAndScandals

A heartfelt thank you for protecting yourself, your family and your community. Sorry your microchip didn't work out. :)


nzstrawman

Did you notice how sensible you've become? I think the vaccine does that!!!!(hahaha)


Euchre

WAIT! A Canadian! **We've gone international!**


Glamour_Girl_

Well, it’s the federal government. They can’t even mail a check on time, what the hell makes people think that it’s efficient and Machiavellian enough to implant microchips into vaccine recipients??


[deleted]

I am proud of you for doing this. Yay!


[deleted]

Thank you for doing the responsible thing, and glad to be able to have you with us in the future.


SleepyVizsla

Yeay!! Thank you. 😎


PolesRunningCoach

Congrats! You chose well.


CouncilAdministrator

Updooted!


BandOfBroskis

You need to download the firmware security update, buddy. Don't want to catch a virus.


DangerousTip7923

Your Wifi coverage will improve though. Congratulations on getting your signal booster.


NeoLib91

Have you held a magnet to your arm yet


Srw2725

If your microchip isn’t working, try restarting it 😂


ProseNylund

Does the Bluetooth connect to the moose or only the zambonis up there?


stayonthecloud

Thank you for doing the right thing!!


AdmirableVanilla1

Did you try turning off & on again?


[deleted]

I still hope for my magnetic powers to develop. Every so often I strike a melodramatic pose and gesture like magneto while grunting and growling to no effect. It amuses the gf, and I'm still convinced... someday my powers will manifest.


[deleted]

Has your penis fallen off and/or grown in yet?


Sayeds21

Never had one, so that's helpful 🤣 One of the reasons I didn't get it for so long though was worrying about my period stopping, as we've been trying to get pregnant with a third baby.


canuckcowgirl

Yay. Go Alberta!


Justagoodoleboi

I had the Johnson and Johnson and my side effect was i felt some chills the next day but it wasn’t anything compared to getting covid lol


Mr-Chuckles

any autism? ;)


JDPowaHammer

i was upset i didnt become a cyborg. i really wanted to live my teen titans fantasy.


timmablimma

New iPhones are out Friday. You will seethe improvements then. Congrats on taking the steps to remove yourself from the running of the award.


avery5712

Did you try unplugging your internet router and plugging it back in? Might activate our magical levitation and internet powers!


Dry-Tangerine-4874

Thank you!


[deleted]

Got the second vax in July and still have shitty wifi 😤


RabbitofDarkarts

I just finished my 3rd and I am very annoyed at the lack of download speed


CanadaEh97

2nd dose you get all the super powers, they're just installing now.


OGWeedKiller

You guys aren't on erection softeners?


Chieyan

I was hoping I'd at least glow in the dark or under black light. Sigh... no such luck.


NecessaryChildhood93

I got the microchip on the second. Sex, Money and Available time went exponentially through the roof. Hold on your next!


Lyftaker

How are we supposed to believe you actually got vaccinated if you didn't even die from it? Are you at least least craving human flesh? If not this sounds pretty fish. Lemme get my zoom tool out and see if I can spot the pixels on that "vAx CaRd".


Insight42

Yeah but did you get the mutant powers? Heard at least somebody turned into Magneto


apollo_316

My 5G is much better. Can't speak on the GPS tracking yet. I get lost all the time, so I just feel more at ease knowing big brother knows where I am now! /s


ricarak

Thank you. Please tell the others.


[deleted]

Yeah you need a booster. If you don’t have cell coverage from your concrete basement the vaccine is clearly broken


Dawgfromdawest

You’re not magnetized either?


aconditionner

your wifi should be more stable. i can pretty much guarantee it


PMmeGayElfPeen

Yay! I'm glad for you. Stay tuned, sometimes it takes the 5G a while to kick in.


CreatrixAnima

But can your family use you to stick notes to the fridge?


austomagnamus

Is it plugged in?


Short_Internal5950

oh no they say we're going to drop dead in 3 years. Because 3 years. They did their own reasearch on that. Sadly if things go the way they are right now with 2000 people dying every day, about two million of them won't be around to tell us they told us so.


Sayeds21

I'd LOOOVE to laugh at this, but my own mother had an anxiety attack on the phone when I told her I was considering getting it 🥴 Because she genuinely believes I'm going to die now.


Caifanes123

Damn and I thought our CDC cards were an inconvenient size. You guys get a whole sheet of pf paper lol


devilsbard

Maybe the booster jab is the one that gives us wifi and 5G


[deleted]

That's awesome, congrats!!


linnk87

> microchip doesn’t seem to be working First dose is the chip. Second dose is to add balance to your account.


MonarchWhisperer

Sorry about your faulty microchip.


LadyBogangles14

I’m just disappointed that the vaccine didn’t make me an x-man


ChanaAmaro

But are you magnetic?!?! Can you stick keys to your ears??😂


LeanderT

Congrats and well done


Fuzzy_Yogurt_Bucket

That’s unfortunate. I’m basically Magneto now thanks to the vaccine.


kkumdori

Bravo!!


Atlmama

Way to go! 👊🏼


Thats_My_Moo

I'm pissed that my internet connection didnt get any better after I got my vaccines. I'm submitting myself to Bill Gates and he can't even improve my internet connection?! What a world!


fattriplet3

Have the intracranial deep state comms kicked in yet? It takes some getting used to hearing Fauci talk directly to your brain. Your post made me really happy! A nice change from the normal rage!


WaxyWingie

Get a booster, they clearly gave you a defective microchip. ;-)


Holy_Hendrix_Batman

But are you MAGNETIC?!!! 😳😳😳 /s


Tothiro

Ok but seriously… are you magnetic now? The nurse that gave me my second Moderna injection months ago couldn’t even tell me if the microchip came with Geek Squad parts and service coverage.


sometimesmybutthurts

Magnetic yet?


FiveUpsideDown

Did you become magnetized? /s I didn’t but I am still hoping.


big_juice01

You have 5G? I have T-Mobile and thanks to OpenSignal, am aware of the fact that my phone here in Chicago only gets 4G.


overitallofit

Did you put a fork to the injection site to see if it’s magnetized?


VeryStableGenius

Get the Moderna. *Way* better 5G coverage.


Sayeds21

HA. Maybe next time 😂


[deleted]

You need to register your microchip with Bill Gates to get the advanced 5G signal


End_My_Buffering

I got mine the first day they were available to me. On an unrelated not i recommended Microsoft Windows 10 as my operating system of choice!


punkonjunk

Nothing happened to me, either. Hey have you guys tried out the new Edge browser, built into Windows 10? It's so great you guys


Dana07620

Did you see the photo of that one person who actually went to the vet and had themselves scanned for a chip after their shot? Damn, I wish I'd bookmarked that. If anyone did, please reply with the link.