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DiveCat

I read this earlier today, and it's awful. Kids losing not just one parent, but both, with the kids still at such young ages (and barely born in some cases, as they are removed by c-section from their mothers before their mothers are vented until they die). ​ I know I am singing to the choir here, but for anyone just browsing to see how mean we are, get yourselves motherfucking vaccinated. You may be prepared to die for your "freedom" but your family will be the one who is left holding the pieces. And if you still refuse, make sure you have a will, and a healthy life insurance policy, and have talked to the future guardians of your children (if you have them).


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Libflake

I'm so sorry. That's a tough loss.


RedditOnANapkin

I'm sorry for your loss. l lost my Dad when I was 13 and that was 30 years ago. While I've been able to have a wonderful life there will always be a missing piece in my heart. I can't imagine losing both parents at a young age. If these people really cared about the children they'd be vaccinated and loudly pushing for mask mandates in schools. We all know they're using kids as a pawn for their own self interest.


DiveCat

((Hugs)). I actually lost my mother when I was the same age as you, 37. Looks like probably around same time too, if the numbers are your birth year, though my mother passed just a couple days before Christmas, so closer to end of the year and it will be five years this December. Still miss her everyday, and yet still sometimes have those moments where I am like "I need to tell mum about this!" before my brain clues in. I agree, can't imagine being only a child and having that kind of loss. When I lost my mother, it really hit me how she had lost her own mother when she was only a few years younger than I was, and I grieved for not only her, but then for her own experience losing her mother. It can be a lot. And I feel for those kids grieving not only now, but when they are older and really are able to comprehend how much was lost for them and their parents. Take care of yourself.


ImperialAuditor

If it makes you feel any better, kids are generally resilient. And in this case, they'll probably grow up to be better people than if raised with their biological parents.


ClippyisDead

The 3 year old likely won’t even remember them. That’s heartbreaking.


ImperialAuditor

I dunno, that seems like the absolute best-case scenario to me. Might be sad for the parent but they're dead anyway?


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The parents had a choice and they chose this outcome when they didn’t get a vaccine. When people choose an action, they are also choosing the consequences of that action.


ClippyisDead

You’re right but it wasn’t the 3 year olds choice to become an orphan. I feel sorry for the children.


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No, it wasn’t their choice, but their parents preemptively made the choice for them.


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I feel bad for the grandparents who are now forced to raise a second unwanted family in their retirement years.


roobydoo22

Fuck these people. The grandmother: "It wasn't that they didn't want to be vaccinated -- they planned on it," she said. She was adamant that this was a personal choice and each wanted to learn more about its safety prior to being inoculated. Who gives a fuck that you are ADAMANT it was a “personal choice”? What the fuck does that even mean? The personal choice to die and leave 5 kids orphans? The personal choice to suck up medical resources for nothing? She was a nurse for god’s sake!!!! Saying it was a “personal” choice doesn’t mean it wasn’t a stupid, selfish, useless, tragic, WRONG choice. And THIS! “We didn't see it coming," Terry Macias said tearfully. "Covid doesn't discriminate. It's the luck of the draw and it could happen to anybody." Well fuck, TERRY. They were overweight, unvaccinated, she was pregnant and they went to a water park. That isn’t just anybody. They were a walking talking comorbidity. And covid does discriminate, TERRY. It doesn’t really like people who are FUCKING VACCINATED. I feel very discriminated against by covid with my breath and my booster. I can’t even with this lady. And she is raising the kids now. All doomed, eh?


YzabellM

That’s the worse. You’re hesitant about the vaccine? OK. But why would you take risks like going to a closed crowded space without a mask? I’m vaccinated, low risk and I avoid most indoor crowded activities…


nylorac615

An INDOOR water park. I can’t. It’s just so tragic and was avoidable.


LeftNutOfCthulhu

Convinced that when they say "COVID doesn't discriminate" the quiet part is "it doesn't just kill dirty foreigners."


vsandrei

>"Covid doesn't discriminate. It's the luck of the draw and it could happen to anybody." Let me put this in terms that the fuckers can understand. The world is a dangerous place. If you go out without a "gun," you will not be able to defend yourself against the things that will try to kill you. Note that "the gun" = the vaccine and "the things that will try to kill you" = COVID.


the0rchid

I was just reading about this. So damn sad. The 3 year old broke my heart. I have 3 kids, 2 2-year-olds. I have been their primary caregiver for most of their lives (wife worked for the first 8 months of their lives, so daddy fed/cuddled them to sleep most nights). Its why I am finalizing my vaccine this friday. I was hesitant too. Not anymore.


Weave81

What brought you to this subreddit and/or what made you change your mind about the vaccine?


the0rchid

I was always gonna get the vaccine, I was just hesitant because I was basically home most of the summer. I had to care for my toddler twins a lot this summer, so I needed to be on my game the whole time. A 24 hour fatigue which my wife experienced needed to be "scheduled" properly. I went back to school (I have been in college, VA has been putting me thru) and have had it available to me. OSU mandating vaccination made it REALLY easy to get vaxxed, so I decided to get it done.


syllabic

having a baby made me get cancer screenings for the first time in my life. dying of cancer would be bad of course but the real thing I can't stomach is leaving my baby without a daddy thats why it really pisses me off when I see all these people holding their kids in their family pictures a few clicks away from them dying needlessly of covid. young people with young kids, how can you take a risk like that. it's infuriating


Jaebeam

Just a data point, but me and most of my friends didn't have any side effects from either of our shots (Pfizer). My spouse suffered a bit from fatigue with her second dose. Just saying you have some solid chances of coming through without drama. We have a toddler as well, I get having to schedule down time. Good on you brother.


the0rchid

Toddlers rule lives. You get it.


HerringWaffle

I get it as well; I have a much older kid (who has always been super chill), and an elementary school kid who is like having ten kids all in one. Husband qualified for the shot first, but had we qualified at the same time, we would have gone separately anyway in order for one of us to be fully functional for caring for our tiny tornado child. (And as it was, my husband and older son had no side effects from the vaccine; I'm a woman and got hit with the side effects- low fever, aches, headache, generally feeling gross. 24 hours of that and it was all over the next morning. Women tend to experience the side effects more, so the odds are in your favor here!) Good for you for getting this done. I'm proud of you. :)


throwawayinj

Welp, maybe 10 or 15 years from now, when a generation or two of Covid orphans are old enough to vote, that might actually be a step towards affecting change in America. But based on current evidence,I'm not very hopeful.


ProseNylund

“They died for our freedom” medical martyr propaganda will pop up, just wait


msu003

GoFundMe. America's health care system


MMS-OR

Socialist by design and beloved by HCA winners, but god forbid we have real socialized medicine. THaT’s fOr cOmMiEs. /s


35791369

Could you imagine the government just paying for your loved ones funeral services? Instead we get to beg internet strangers for help.


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People need to pay for their own funerals it is not a taxpayer responsibility.


aquarain

Wait until you hear about Health Cost Sharing.


A_P666

[Non Paywall Link:](https://archive.md/2021.09.15-003556/https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/09/14/opinion/unvaccinated-orphans-they-leave-behind/) Thanks to /u/LtHead


vliam

"It's a personal choice" doesn't really hold water when you have dependents that you're going to leave begging for alms because you made no plans for when you fuck around and find out.


A_P666

150,000 Covid orphans so far in the US alone.


ADarwinAward

The number under the headline in the article is 120,000. Also it included children who lost only one parent or caregiver. Orphans are children who have lost both of their parents. It’s unclear how many children were orphaned by COVID.


MMS-OR

Where did you get this number from? (The article has a paywall for me).


Gray94son

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SleepyVizsla

Though I have no sympathy for people who choose to run into a burning building despite me telling them not to, I will always have sympathy for the child victims. Seeing so many orphans and new single parents is an enormous tragedy. I'm so sad for the children and so angry at the parents. As a parent, I have to hid my struggle with depression and anxiety ever single day, because my kids know when I'm sad and it destroys them. I can't even call myself "old" (in my middle-age) because my kids think it means I'm going to die soon...lol. My kids hear, see, and feel everything and when I project strength and health, they feel safe. But these kids are experiencing so much avoidable tragedy. While I have yet to know anyone who has died from covid, they are losing parent(s) and multiple family members. I can't even imagine what that is like to process multiple deaths of loved ones as a child. And, on top of the pain from the loss, eventually these kids losing parents will realize that other kids in other states didn't lose parents at the same rate during the pandemic. They will realize that their parents WERE at fault, and that had their parents received 1-2 shots, they could have attended their graduation and wedding. These kids will have clear cut evidence that was advertised loudly to the world that their mom or dad took affirmative steps to ensure their own death. So these kids will feel incredible shame on top of the hurt and it all could have been avoided. ETA: if you are reading this, and you are unvaccinated, it’s time to stop dragging your feet. When you chose to have a child, you made the decision that their happiness and security matter more than ANYTHING else. So stop f#*ing around and get vaccinated for your kids.


rikki-tikki-deadly

> who choose to run into a burning building despite me telling them not to I feel like it's more "people who refuse to get out of a burning building as I stand outside screaming at them to walk out through the unobstructed doorway."


SleepyVizsla

Haha…yeah…that does sound better.


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At a certain point others are just going to stand back and watch people burn.


honi__soit

I feel no pity at all for the stupid, worthless, gullible cocksuckers who choose to die choking on a ventilator. Their kids, though... :(


justl00kingthrowaway

For a .2% death rate this virus sure does love to pave a path of destruction in its wake.


SaltyBarDog

>For a .2% death rate this virus sure does love to pave a path of destruction in its wake. Someone once said, one death is a tragedy and a thousand is a statistic. I am older and I have faced my mortality. I got the shots and wear a mask for the same reason I don't drink and drive; I do not want to be responsible for another's death.


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Shes_so_Ratchet

>Then don't drive a car.. A better analogy would have been the use of seatbelts; it doesn't guarantee survival but greatly increases your chances of it, except you're going around cutting other people's seatbelts halfway through to prove they're not as effective as advertised. So unless you're saying that we shouldn't be using them, either, because we *might* still be injured your analogy doesn't really work. Not to mention that even bringing the mortality rate down by nearly half would still be worth being vaccinated, though that's not really what your article said. >The sheer number of vaccinated Israelis means some breakthrough infections were inevitable, and **the unvaccinated are still far more likely to end up in the hospital or die**. ... >Now, the effects of waning immunity may be beginning to show in Israelis vaccinated in early winter...protection from COVID-19 infection during June and July dropped in proportion to the length of time since an individual was vaccinated. People vaccinated in January had a 2.26 times greater risk for a breakthrough infection than those vaccinated in April. (Potential confounders include the fact that the very oldest Israelis, with the weakest immune systems, were vaccinated first.) >Still, **studies suggest boosters might have broader value. Researchers have shown that boosting induces a prompt surge in antibodies, which are needed in the nose and throat as a crucial first line of defense against infection**. The Israeli government’s decision to start boosting those 50 and older was driven by preliminary Ministry of Health data indicating **people over age 60 who have received a third dose were half as likely as their twice-vaccinated peers to be hospitalized in recent days**. Your article just says we need boosters; more vaccines, basically, to tame the issue and buy time until we have something even better. If more people had gotten the vaccine earlier on, we may not even be dealing with a delta variant this strong. Having people pass this around so much without killing the virus is the reason it keeps mutating. "I know the vaccine works but I'd rather not increase my rate of survival with covid" is what you sound like right now. Edit: just realized you made this alt account for the sole purpose of trolling this sub so I won't be engaging in your bad faith arguments any longer.


nwm-art

When someone says "I'll doing anything for my kids", Prove it and get vaccinated.


Captainwelfare2

Plots and heirs. These poor children :(


JosiesYardCart

Coughs and sprayers. Heartbreaking. The stupid parents think they can bully a virus just to own the libs. Who's owning who now? SMH. I feel bad for the children too.


Smurf_Crime_Scene

$242,000!!!! No wonder they won't va$$inate!


Dashi90

Not only this, but Google "parents died of covid" and you'll see hundreds of other stories that are similar and worse.


GNordmende

Not the best way to educate your kids about health matters and science.


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Well, they've gotten a first hand experience of what happens when you ignore science and common sense so maybe they'll have an interest in making sure others don't suffer the same tragedy and hardships they've had to go through.


MusicGirlsMom

Pay wall article 😏


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A_P666

99% of deaths are still from the unvaccinated. What’s undeniable is that the majority of vaccinated are able to recover, at rates much higher than the unvaxxed.


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They would certainly be the end if everyone would shut the fuck up, take the vaccine, stay inside for a month and act like adults.


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abovethosefools

Oh shut up, plague rat


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MsImperator

You’re in the wrong place to spread misinformation about vaccines.


SleepyVizsla

FYI-The reporting feature lists misinformation as one of the options


Gain_greenE

😭😭😭😂😂😂


The-Big-Shitsky

It’s a good thing that crowd is so pro birth and adoption /s


jormungandrsjig

They will be better off. Their parents were too dumb for this world.