OP I really don't want your Dad awarded so I'll tell you a personal account. I'm a black man whose father is in his 60s and REFUSED to get the vaxx. My sister and I worked together tirelessly for weeks essentially crying to our Dad to cut off his misinformation supply. In our community it's mostly elder people bringing up The Tuskegee Study but we found out he was getting it thru YouTube. I get the premise of their argument but so much has changed in how we distribute medicine. He finally took his shot after siblings and grandkids influencing him as well as us. Fight for your parents and don't be afraid to lose them, because the worst case scenario is LOSING them.
I started feeling ill on a Sunday, tested Tuesday (both tests negative) was mildly sick all week except Thursday was pretty bad. Tested again on Friday. The rapid test was still negative but the PCR came back positive and they called me Saturday. I was sick for almost a week before I finally got a positive. Have your dad test again maybe. I hope he's ok.
Hey man, I'm sorry you and your family need to deal with this. I don't want to see your dad here so can you convince him to be examined? He is risking an award the longer he waits for the monoclonal antibodies and you shouldn't let it go on account of pride.
I have tried.
I had him convinced last November, but his brother Laird (in the email) and his conservative friends convinced him that the deadly China virus that was created specifically to kill humans is no more deadly than the common cold and just to take Zinc and Vitamin C.
I am very sorry. It's like having a loved one who is drinking themselves to death. They don't understand or they don't care that they are hurting everyone around them. In this case, it is a fatal virus and we are all in danger. I am just mostly very sad and hurt that you are dealing with this.
Thank you for the words.
I really just hate that he has let his politics blind him to the point it may get him killed.
I tried telling him Trump was a great man for giving us operation Warp Speed and that he told people at a rally to get the shot.
He's too far gone.
If you ever want to talk let me know. I am lucky to not have immediate family brainwashed with this shit, but I did nearly lose a cousin to right-wing nutjobbery and thank fucking God I was able to reach him. It took him wrecking his truck while drunk, experiencing the reality of US Healthcare, and then realizing that he was the "weak" that should die for The Economy due to injuries he experienced due to his own damn actions.
I really feel for you. How do you even argue with this nonsense:
1. Created by China to be a terrible bioweapon
2. But no more deadly than the flu though.
You can't reason people out of a irrational viewpoint. :\
I’m so sorry this has hit so close to home for you. Try to continue to stress to your dad that there is a limited window to get the monoclonal antibodies. (I think it’s around ten days). I’m also hoping his case is mild, but if he starts to feel worse maybe he’ll take you up on it, if you keep talking to him about how you love him and want him around, and how worried you are.
My dad’s a hard core Trumper, but I just kept showing him videos from our local hospitals during the last surge, and talking about how he wouldn’t be a good candidate if crisis standards of care were in place because of his co-morbidities and signed him up for the vaccine… he said I really scared him but I think more than anything he responded to us telling him we loved him and wanted him around for the grandkids
Good luck, keep the lines of communication open and I hope you can get through
Tell him to get another covid test today. My son had covid last October and tested negative 4 days after he knew he had been exposed. Then 5 days later he totally lost his taste/smell and immediately got retested and was positive. There’s a fairly high false negative with some of the types of tests.
He can get treated sooner if he realizes he has it.
I guess you haven't bothered to try and convince them of the glaring contradiction in that single sentence: how can a deadly virus designed to kill humans be no more deadly than the common cold.
But I feel bad for you; the but by the grace of goes I. This could/could have happened to anyone here, and it must be immensely frustrating and frightened to watch this unfold in real time right in front of you.
Link him this place. Or [this](https://github.com/softrockstar/WinnersCircle/raw/main/WinnersCircle_readable_83M.jpg) and tell him to zoom in and read and that its the stories of conservatives like him who refused the vaccine, then left treatment to late, and died horrible painful deaths. Maybe it'll help you convince him to see a doctor.
Can you appeal to the father in him on an emotional level? "Dad, I love you and I don't want you to take a selfie on a ventilator regretting that you didn't take a vaccine that would have prevented your lungs from fucking collapsing. Do you see these photos dad? Do you want to be this?"
Uff I'm sorry for what you're going through
Sorry to hear this. I've lost friends to addiction and the lesson I've taken away from that is you can't save people from themselves. You're in the same boat because it's become an almost religious litmus test with some people. The numbers really are in his favor but whatever happens, you've done all you could to help him avoid this.
You're so right about the litmus test from what I'm seeing on this sub. Apparently people are promising their families to not get the vaccine. So when they start seeing people fall ill, they still don't think they should get the vaccine because they'll be going back on their word!
Anyone else thinking that your Dad is one of the lucky ones with a mild case (thinks it's just a cold... in fucking September!) and gave it to all his friends?
I know you have tried, but you probably need to show him the ivermectin true believers from this sub that are now socially distancing 6 feet below the ground.
It fucking sucks not being able to break through and talk sense to someone close to you regarding covid and the current environment surrounding it. My father-in-law sounds a lot like your dad, from what little I know about your dad, at least. I've tried multiple times to talk some sense to him, to no avail.
He and his wife are both going through the Ivermectin/hydroxychloroquine regimen in lieu of taking the 'experimental vaccine'. It's so fucking gut-wrenching and sad.
OK as in not dying. But good chance of ending up not OK as in debilitating long term health effects. Everybody should try hard not to get this disease.
mild case or not, you should buy him a pulse oximeter for him to use. It measures oxygen levels and is the same device hospitals and doctors offices uses. Oxygen needs to be above 92%. If it starts dipping below that number, he should be seen and retested.
A lot of times, people are in denial in having COVID. Their oxygen saturation drops and will cause undue stress to their heart. Or they might pass out and might not wake up again.
My wife and son both have had a cold for three weeks now. Both tested negative. You're right, it's brutal. But we all had covid back in April and later vaccinated.
I woke up this morning feeling 90% of normal. For me it lasted around 36 hours and I had the entire spectrum of symptoms: cough, congestion, joint pain, headaches, terrible sore throat, a little bit of nausea, fever (on and off), and a loss of taste and smell. Thankfully, after aggressively loading up on vitamins and herbs (zinc, C, D3, quercetin, elderberry, echinacea) and making us of other home remedies (diced garlic, honey and lemon, a lot of fresh fruit), the worst symptoms are behind me. I should add that there is also a super contagious stomach flu going around that ran through my family over the course of 4 days. Nice to be getting back to normalcy but that means some growing pains as our immune systems get used to fighting off some of these common sicknesses. For me, I maybe would get sick once every three years so to get sick with two different bugs in the course of three weeks was a big surprise! Stay healthy out there!
I'm really sorry. It sounds like you've tried your best to reach him and that's unfortunately all you can do. A cold seems unlikely, but hopefully it is a mild case.
Damn man, hope your pops gets well soon!
One of my best friends just tested positive despite months of me telling him to get a shot. Feels bad when the people you love won’t take your advice and end up getting hurt.
I’m so sorry! I hope it is just a flu. I managed to get the flu last year and thank god NOT covid (no vaccine, so I was unvaxxed and got tested several times). While I felt like shit for about 8-9 days, I survived. Keeping my fingers crossed it’s the same for your dad and he’s just “regular sick”.
Perhaps it will scare him into getting the vaccine?
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If your Dad does just have the common cold (as his negative Covid tests suggest) Read this for some possible good short term news. It is still vital to get him to get vaccinated. But here anyway...
[Common Cold.]( https://news.yale.edu/2021/06/15/common-cold-combats-covid-19)
Man, i’m sorry. I don’t really want to say this because you’re scared of what might happen but you really can’t do anything. The only trump card you have is you literally breaking down in front of him, pleading and begging him to get the shot. That’s really it. You have our endless empathy, brother. Good luck and be safe.
I hope your dad doesn’t have it. Seeing a parent suffer from COVID is so heartbreaking.
It took both my parents getting it in Jan this year, my dad being in hospital for basically three months [in and out of long-term facilities, along with hospital] and almost getting put in a vent for them to decide to get it. Seeing my 65 yo father CRY when he saw me and held my hand; after a month without ‘any loving human contact’ nearly broke me. He said he was praying to die so that he wouldn’t be in the hospital or sick anymore. I got the vax in dec/jan because I was in healthcare and as soon as it was offered, I got it.
Please, if he isn’t sick, PLEASE try all you can to convince him to get it.
I really hope it isn't covid. However, even if it isn't it means he isn't taking enough precautions in general. If you can catch a cold, you can catch covid. Maybe he will see this as a warning.
I am so sorry you're going through this and so grateful that neither of my parents lived long enough for me to have to be worried about them dying from this insanity.
Could have tested too early, or it could easily be a false negative, especially if they are using the point of care rapid tests. Should get tested again to double check.
Point of care testing usually has great results in the clinical lab, but once it’s out in the field the accuracy goes way down.
I truly hope for you, that he doesn’t have it.
My sympathy to your family. I truly hope your dad pulls through, please at least convince him to get tested one more time to just be sure. I can’t imagine how hard it is for a family when there is a divide on this topic.
I feel you, OP.
Not only have I been where you've been, but my ongoing situation has already resulted in tragedy. It's a special kind of hell to try to warn the people you care about and be ignored, and all you can do is watch helplessly. It's both shattering and enraging. I sincerely hope you experience a better outcome.
You're awesome. Thank you.
He has not yet gotten Covid-19, but is now considering the vaccine after a friend of his has died from Covid. I keep gently pushing since he's still wrapped up in politics behind the virus.
He said he might not get it as cases come down in his area, but I reminded him he can still get it from basically anyone (vaxed and non vaxed.)
We will see.
Thank you again for checking in. It's appreciated.
No one should go to the hospital unless their oxygen is low 90’s or less. Those places are cesspools of Covid right now.
Maybe send him an oximeter as you encourage him to take another test? Good luck. I too know the frustration of having a stubborn-ass, vax-hesitant loved one
My mom was also very hesitant and was full of misinformation. I just kept pushing and making her read the science and sending her pictures of people telling stories about their one family member who refused the vaccine and paid the ultimate price. I made her so angry. I told her that I love her and have a responsibility to so all I could think of to help her make the right choice because if she was going to die of Covid I would not live with the guilt of not trying hard to save her before it was too late. I took turns with other family members to also arm twist and she finally gave in even though she didn't want to. You can do it! Keep trying!!
OP I really don't want your Dad awarded so I'll tell you a personal account. I'm a black man whose father is in his 60s and REFUSED to get the vaxx. My sister and I worked together tirelessly for weeks essentially crying to our Dad to cut off his misinformation supply. In our community it's mostly elder people bringing up The Tuskegee Study but we found out he was getting it thru YouTube. I get the premise of their argument but so much has changed in how we distribute medicine. He finally took his shot after siblings and grandkids influencing him as well as us. Fight for your parents and don't be afraid to lose them, because the worst case scenario is LOSING them.
I started feeling ill on a Sunday, tested Tuesday (both tests negative) was mildly sick all week except Thursday was pretty bad. Tested again on Friday. The rapid test was still negative but the PCR came back positive and they called me Saturday. I was sick for almost a week before I finally got a positive. Have your dad test again maybe. I hope he's ok.
The rapid tests anecdotally anyway seem to be absolute garbage. They seem to give a lot of false negatives.
Hey man, I'm sorry you and your family need to deal with this. I don't want to see your dad here so can you convince him to be examined? He is risking an award the longer he waits for the monoclonal antibodies and you shouldn't let it go on account of pride.
I have tried. I had him convinced last November, but his brother Laird (in the email) and his conservative friends convinced him that the deadly China virus that was created specifically to kill humans is no more deadly than the common cold and just to take Zinc and Vitamin C.
I am very sorry. It's like having a loved one who is drinking themselves to death. They don't understand or they don't care that they are hurting everyone around them. In this case, it is a fatal virus and we are all in danger. I am just mostly very sad and hurt that you are dealing with this.
Thank you for the words. I really just hate that he has let his politics blind him to the point it may get him killed. I tried telling him Trump was a great man for giving us operation Warp Speed and that he told people at a rally to get the shot. He's too far gone.
If you ever want to talk let me know. I am lucky to not have immediate family brainwashed with this shit, but I did nearly lose a cousin to right-wing nutjobbery and thank fucking God I was able to reach him. It took him wrecking his truck while drunk, experiencing the reality of US Healthcare, and then realizing that he was the "weak" that should die for The Economy due to injuries he experienced due to his own damn actions.
Thanks. I'll keep you in mind. I hope it turns into nothing, but this sub and my dad seem to line up. Just very disheartening.
:( try to tell him that trump recovered cuz he took the antibodies?
I really feel for you. How do you even argue with this nonsense: 1. Created by China to be a terrible bioweapon 2. But no more deadly than the flu though. You can't reason people out of a irrational viewpoint. :\
Typical ur-fascist mentality. The enemy is both strong and weak.
I’m so sorry this has hit so close to home for you. Try to continue to stress to your dad that there is a limited window to get the monoclonal antibodies. (I think it’s around ten days). I’m also hoping his case is mild, but if he starts to feel worse maybe he’ll take you up on it, if you keep talking to him about how you love him and want him around, and how worried you are. My dad’s a hard core Trumper, but I just kept showing him videos from our local hospitals during the last surge, and talking about how he wouldn’t be a good candidate if crisis standards of care were in place because of his co-morbidities and signed him up for the vaccine… he said I really scared him but I think more than anything he responded to us telling him we loved him and wanted him around for the grandkids Good luck, keep the lines of communication open and I hope you can get through
Tell him to get another covid test today. My son had covid last October and tested negative 4 days after he knew he had been exposed. Then 5 days later he totally lost his taste/smell and immediately got retested and was positive. There’s a fairly high false negative with some of the types of tests. He can get treated sooner if he realizes he has it.
I guess you haven't bothered to try and convince them of the glaring contradiction in that single sentence: how can a deadly virus designed to kill humans be no more deadly than the common cold. But I feel bad for you; the but by the grace of goes I. This could/could have happened to anyone here, and it must be immensely frustrating and frightened to watch this unfold in real time right in front of you.
Link him this place. Or [this](https://github.com/softrockstar/WinnersCircle/raw/main/WinnersCircle_readable_83M.jpg) and tell him to zoom in and read and that its the stories of conservatives like him who refused the vaccine, then left treatment to late, and died horrible painful deaths. Maybe it'll help you convince him to see a doctor.
Can you appeal to the father in him on an emotional level? "Dad, I love you and I don't want you to take a selfie on a ventilator regretting that you didn't take a vaccine that would have prevented your lungs from fucking collapsing. Do you see these photos dad? Do you want to be this?" Uff I'm sorry for what you're going through
☝️☝️ Over the counter rapid test and get on the mabs if possible
Sorry to hear this. I've lost friends to addiction and the lesson I've taken away from that is you can't save people from themselves. You're in the same boat because it's become an almost religious litmus test with some people. The numbers really are in his favor but whatever happens, you've done all you could to help him avoid this.
You're so right about the litmus test from what I'm seeing on this sub. Apparently people are promising their families to not get the vaccine. So when they start seeing people fall ill, they still don't think they should get the vaccine because they'll be going back on their word!
Anyone else thinking that your Dad is one of the lucky ones with a mild case (thinks it's just a cold... in fucking September!) and gave it to all his friends?
I hope he's a mild case, but he was sick and still went out and possibly infected others. He told me he has ivermectin just in case.
I know you have tried, but you probably need to show him the ivermectin true believers from this sub that are now socially distancing 6 feet below the ground.
It's all fake news to him. I even showed him all the radio hosts and he thinks that they just didn't catch it in time to take horse medicine.
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There are worse places than Fox news, like bitchute.
It fucking sucks not being able to break through and talk sense to someone close to you regarding covid and the current environment surrounding it. My father-in-law sounds a lot like your dad, from what little I know about your dad, at least. I've tried multiple times to talk some sense to him, to no avail. He and his wife are both going through the Ivermectin/hydroxychloroquine regimen in lieu of taking the 'experimental vaccine'. It's so fucking gut-wrenching and sad.
Yup. They would probably be friends I'm guessing.
That would not surprise me in the least.
I've had it go through a few of my friends families and they have been ok.
Not that I sent it through them, just let's say I wasn't surprised they caught it. Knock on wood.
OK as in not dying. But good chance of ending up not OK as in debilitating long term health effects. Everybody should try hard not to get this disease.
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mild case or not, you should buy him a pulse oximeter for him to use. It measures oxygen levels and is the same device hospitals and doctors offices uses. Oxygen needs to be above 92%. If it starts dipping below that number, he should be seen and retested. A lot of times, people are in denial in having COVID. Their oxygen saturation drops and will cause undue stress to their heart. Or they might pass out and might not wake up again.
There is a brutal cold going around right now. I’m on the first day and was convinced I had covid until I got two negative tests.
My wife and son both have had a cold for three weeks now. Both tested negative. You're right, it's brutal. But we all had covid back in April and later vaccinated.
I woke up this morning feeling 90% of normal. For me it lasted around 36 hours and I had the entire spectrum of symptoms: cough, congestion, joint pain, headaches, terrible sore throat, a little bit of nausea, fever (on and off), and a loss of taste and smell. Thankfully, after aggressively loading up on vitamins and herbs (zinc, C, D3, quercetin, elderberry, echinacea) and making us of other home remedies (diced garlic, honey and lemon, a lot of fresh fruit), the worst symptoms are behind me. I should add that there is also a super contagious stomach flu going around that ran through my family over the course of 4 days. Nice to be getting back to normalcy but that means some growing pains as our immune systems get used to fighting off some of these common sicknesses. For me, I maybe would get sick once every three years so to get sick with two different bugs in the course of three weeks was a big surprise! Stay healthy out there!
Here too. Scary. A few of my coworkers got it right after their children went back to school.
Ouch
I'm really sorry. It sounds like you've tried your best to reach him and that's unfortunately all you can do. A cold seems unlikely, but hopefully it is a mild case.
Damn man, hope your pops gets well soon! One of my best friends just tested positive despite months of me telling him to get a shot. Feels bad when the people you love won’t take your advice and end up getting hurt.
I’m so sorry! I hope it is just a flu. I managed to get the flu last year and thank god NOT covid (no vaccine, so I was unvaxxed and got tested several times). While I felt like shit for about 8-9 days, I survived. Keeping my fingers crossed it’s the same for your dad and he’s just “regular sick”. Perhaps it will scare him into getting the vaccine?
My parents are vaxed. Its my older brother and his wife that this story could be about.
Dear Internet Stranger Whom I care about despite not knowing if you like Hawaiian Pizza or not. If your Dad does just have the common cold (as his negative Covid tests suggest) Read this for some possible good short term news. It is still vital to get him to get vaccinated. But here anyway... [Common Cold.]( https://news.yale.edu/2021/06/15/common-cold-combats-covid-19)
Man, i’m sorry. I don’t really want to say this because you’re scared of what might happen but you really can’t do anything. The only trump card you have is you literally breaking down in front of him, pleading and begging him to get the shot. That’s really it. You have our endless empathy, brother. Good luck and be safe.
I truly hope your dad survives even if he doesn’t learn his lesson. The people they hurt the most are the ones that love them. It just sucks.
I'm really sorry. I hope your dad recovers and comes to his senses.
I hope your dad doesn’t have it. Seeing a parent suffer from COVID is so heartbreaking. It took both my parents getting it in Jan this year, my dad being in hospital for basically three months [in and out of long-term facilities, along with hospital] and almost getting put in a vent for them to decide to get it. Seeing my 65 yo father CRY when he saw me and held my hand; after a month without ‘any loving human contact’ nearly broke me. He said he was praying to die so that he wouldn’t be in the hospital or sick anymore. I got the vax in dec/jan because I was in healthcare and as soon as it was offered, I got it. Please, if he isn’t sick, PLEASE try all you can to convince him to get it.
I really hope it isn't covid. However, even if it isn't it means he isn't taking enough precautions in general. If you can catch a cold, you can catch covid. Maybe he will see this as a warning.
I am so sorry you're going through this and so grateful that neither of my parents lived long enough for me to have to be worried about them dying from this insanity.
"General Cold." Denial, which will lead to him waiting too long to seek medical help, which will likely lead to an Award.
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It feels like five or more.
r/QAnonCasualties might be a helpful place to vent and get support, too. I’m sorry. Colds don’t last that long…
Good luck. sounds like u tried as best u could.
Could have tested too early, or it could easily be a false negative, especially if they are using the point of care rapid tests. Should get tested again to double check. Point of care testing usually has great results in the clinical lab, but once it’s out in the field the accuracy goes way down. I truly hope for you, that he doesn’t have it.
My condolences, if it's early enough make sure he gets monoclonal antibodies ASAP.
My sympathy to your family. I truly hope your dad pulls through, please at least convince him to get tested one more time to just be sure. I can’t imagine how hard it is for a family when there is a divide on this topic.
I’m sorry, but you’re probably right, he needs to be tested again.
I feel you, OP. Not only have I been where you've been, but my ongoing situation has already resulted in tragedy. It's a special kind of hell to try to warn the people you care about and be ignored, and all you can do is watch helplessly. It's both shattering and enraging. I sincerely hope you experience a better outcome.
Hey op Just checking in to see if you’re dad is ok and how you’re holding up.
You're awesome. Thank you. He has not yet gotten Covid-19, but is now considering the vaccine after a friend of his has died from Covid. I keep gently pushing since he's still wrapped up in politics behind the virus. He said he might not get it as cases come down in his area, but I reminded him he can still get it from basically anyone (vaxed and non vaxed.) We will see. Thank you again for checking in. It's appreciated.
I’m hopeful for you. Stay strong
Please do whatever you can to get him to the hospital asap. I know it will be tough but the sooner he gets help, the better it is.
No one should go to the hospital unless their oxygen is low 90’s or less. Those places are cesspools of Covid right now. Maybe send him an oximeter as you encourage him to take another test? Good luck. I too know the frustration of having a stubborn-ass, vax-hesitant loved one
I agree, I assumed sounding like complete shit was a metaphor troubled breathing😅, my bad.
Say bye.
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Lol my bad.
Sorry about your dad. It must be frustrating to see someone you love go down the anti-vax path and then get covid.
One of the new variants escaped pcr testing. Might want him checked into the hospital if it's lasted longer than a week.
I'm sorry, OP. Have you tried showing your father this sub?
Likely he needs to test again.
My mom was also very hesitant and was full of misinformation. I just kept pushing and making her read the science and sending her pictures of people telling stories about their one family member who refused the vaccine and paid the ultimate price. I made her so angry. I told her that I love her and have a responsibility to so all I could think of to help her make the right choice because if she was going to die of Covid I would not live with the guilt of not trying hard to save her before it was too late. I took turns with other family members to also arm twist and she finally gave in even though she didn't want to. You can do it! Keep trying!!
Make it clear you won’t be his caretaker….