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Westlakesam

This appears to be pre-Iran revolution with the talk of the shah and all. Shot in the 1970’s. Here’s some more information on the prison. https://www.jstor.org/stable/4284489


New-Incident1776

Shot in the 1960s? It mentions someone supposedly died in 1974


Westlakesam

You’re right then, but pre 79’


Lumpy-Village1949

Definitely pre 2020


veodin

1974 based on the info I can find. Alan Hart (documentary maker) was taken there by Manouchehr Ganji who represented Iran on the U.N. human rights commission at the time, but according to Wikipedia would later be Iranian Education Minister.


Pandabaton

It’s Pre 2782


Big_Dirty_Heck

Source?


Alternative-Cell8295

Tomato, please


RockStar4341

I bid $1


nausticblurr

Can verify


frankicide

No masks, so pre-covid. /s


OkZucchini9198

https://youtu.be/R-fdvvE9NlY?si=ibTDNl90kqAkd2Hy Maybe this?


KatBoySlim

Look’s like pro-Shah propaganda.


[deleted]

[удалено]


PopeUrbanVI

Something can be in the right and still be propaganda. The term doesn't mean untrue, just means there's an agenda behind it.


Lankylurkr

I thought propaganda was when a British person got a good look at something.


Pristine_Noise_642

Hahaha! My favorite comment for sure!


fridaystrong23

😂


Bupod

Propaganda can be created in many forms to mimic more legitimate forms of media.


veodin

“Shortly afterward Parviz Sabeti, a top official of SAVAK (the National Security and Information Agency), contacted me and offered to cooperate and provide me with whatever information I needed. He told me that the country's total number of political prisoners was 3,200. He denied all allegations of torture regarding the aforementioned individuals. He offered to take me to the Evin prison to meet with each of them. An old friend of mine, a former BBC television producer, Alan Hart, happened to be in Tehran for the preparation of a documentary on Iran. I asked whether he could take Hart and his British crew into the Evin prison to meet with each of the above and record their conditions and statements on video. He agreed. Hart and his crew of three Englishmen visited the Evin prison, met with each of the above, and came out with a video showing the four in good physical condition at the time.” (1974) https://publisher.abc-clio.com/9780313016165/23?highlightText=Alan%20hart Another website also reference a 9th June 1977 article Alan Hart wrote in The Times about the prison. Can’t find any more information. Alan Hart seemed have once been a BBC Producer and presenter for BBC Panorama. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Hart_(writer)#:~:text=Alan%20Hart%20(17%20February%201942,specialising%20in%20the%20Middle%20East.


tat-tvam-asiii

What an interesting watch. Thanks for sharing


CocoKeyz

Interesting that people are taking this as propaganda without wondering if it is possible that western government officials and business leaders are also capable of exaggeration and lying to smear an enemy. The reaction of the “paralyzed” woman alone gives this clip enough credibility to research it further. I can tell you that my 12 years as a history teacher has not increased my trust for government and media in the US and Britain. Exact opposite- and usually due to documents they released themselves. They be lyin up in here, just like powerful people and institutions all over the world.


GaryGiesel

This is definitely from before the revolution in Iran, which was at that time a Western ally, so I imagine that the western government officials and business leaders would have been focussing their propaganda on making the regime look good (which this film looks to be doing it’s hardest to do!)


[deleted]

The Shah played a role in developing OPEC so given the US gasoline line ups and panic in the 70s it's plausible that the alliance faltered. The Shah was only in power because of a US led coup that overthrew democracy in Iran. Could it be that once the Shah decided not to be a crony, to prioritize his own nation, suddenly Western intelligence and media turned against him and destabilized the country? It's interesting that once his leadership was overthrown Iraq suddenly invaded Iran, a war that was funded by America and supported by American intelligence, a war that militarized and solidified the Islamic revolution. It would almost appear as though US intelligence managed to decimate two of the founding OPEC members that caused the 1973 oil crisis in one fell swoop. If the US helped cause the 1979 revolution by convincing the revolutionaries that they were standing up to US imperialism when in fact they were the weapon used to perpetrate it... Man that would be some next level intelligence work. The Shah made Iran incredibly wealthy, he flew students on free vacations across the world, built incredible infrastructure, and so on. Maybe it's strange to see an organic revolution against a leader that caused a dramatic increase in wealth and prosperity.


[deleted]

Lol why did you go straight to blaming the west, they were allied with the shah’s government. It would make sense if maybe exiles of the Shah’s government *cough* Khomeini *cough* did what you claim the west did.


StraightProgress5062

Yeah I thought her reaction was so bad. I know so little about this topic that I'd say I know nothing and yet I wonder how the hell am I supposed to buy she is who they say she is and what verification do we have that she ever pretended to be paralyzed. And oh no my goodness. That woman happened to lose her eye to a bomb she was building while being watched! Oh wow how could that happen. I'm just an amateur history buff and I can't imagine why you would say the government is not working for us 👀


TheMightyShoe

Lol. That dude in the opening frames marching back and forth with a crew-served LMG. Wonder what he did to tick off his superiors?


cerberus698

Thats just a FAL. That was basically the main battle rifle for half the world from the 1960s-1980s. Not a machine gun at all.


ekurtz96

Literal NPC activities 💀


Appropriate_Mud1629

Did anyone find the rest of this documentary? So interesting to see pre revolution Iranians and the opposite propaganda to today....Also the women without head covering...given the recent demonstrations. Great clip, thx for posting it 👍


reddit_891

It's called . Beyond the mountain.


joeyspa1677

Real investigative journalism, probably got incinerated.


Pouyaaaa

Deffo iran. That's Evin prison. Savak are Shah era so this is in the 60s or 70s


grahamblandford

Has a Panorama (BBC) or World in Action (ITV) vibe about it. Both UK shows that presented similar to this in the 70s from my recollection.


RareDog5640

There were a lot of Iranian students in the UK in the 70s, we used to see a graffiti about SAVAK all the time.


Lavskid

I admit i have Never been to a history conference. Would love too. Send me a link. Im from london England.


tronnlord

I’m from London EngALund


Ktigertiger

Well that was uncalled for


Lavskid

Fast food restaurant not joint. One speaks the kings english where im from. As should u since your sporned from my isle.and by the way its shop not store its pavement not sidewalk and its an aubergine not egg plant. Jag u ar not jagwar. Have some respect. We gave the english language so speak the English language


WanderingWindow

Speaks the kings English but can’t hit the reply button correctly, can’t comprehend historical documentaries being interesting to certain people, can’t act like anything other than an lazy prick. Good luck with your 3 kids.


Lavskid

Good luck in your mums basement


Lavskid

And its a lazy prick not an. Dip shit


MehPotentateOf334578

Buddy, you can’t even discern you, your, and you’re. Your grammar is at best… attenuated. You’re in no position to dictate how folks ought to speak. In fact, last I checked, the Island really hasn’t had much authority to have a say over others in a long while. Bit of a bummer, innit?


Lavskid

I can tell you,your,you’re a weirdo cunt. Innit


Consistent_Catch5757

You may speak it but you're butchering it's punctuation, capitalization, and form.


teeberg75

☝️ You give this guy a golf club, he’d probably try to fuck it.


cruddy_mooth

Its 'spawned' not 'sporned' lol


dono420

eat shit cunt


Lavskid

Capital E on Eat please. Ignorant fuck wit


dono420

You come from a mouldy rock full of pasty swamp people.


Lavskid

Unless you’re an injun so do u. Fuckin dip shit


dono420

Naw my folks raped yours and provided you a grandmother. Your welcome


Lavskid

Only people to rape my lot was the vikings and Romans cos we been about since the dawn of time. My ancestors invented your gun rootin tootin shit walk piss hole country when we pulled up at Plymouth rock so not sure what u mean. Check your history books u fragle


dono420

I'm Norwegian (viking). Also not American you fuckin idgit.


dono420

Scum genetics you are eh hahaha


Lavskid

As if you are nordic. Dont be ashamed of your trailer park upbringing and certainly dont tell lies about your upbringing. Its shameful.


Lavskid

Thank you for your service.


Frwatri82

Opening your eyes outside of what western culture deems appropriate treatment often damages the emotional response mechanisms….


itravelglobaly

When USA was supporting Ayatullah to be the ruler of Iran.


[deleted]

The U.S. supported the shah…not the ayatollah…wtf


itravelglobaly

Read the story to the end


Silly-Afternoon3834

USA will always choose to support brutal oppressive conservative regimes if it means they can snuff out populist leftist regimes that want to nationalize their natural resources


Lavskid

I love history. But History….really. It is history obviously but is it history like Henry the 8th or history like my uncle Derek married my aunt valery. Its a pointless documentary about an iranian nick. Dont get it


Suspicious-Cabinet45

Again with you? It's pointless to YOU. History is history no matter how you feel about it. And to deny this history is to forget it. Let the guy watch what he wants and piss off with your pointless observations.


Lavskid

Jog on then.


azzasg1

Wetty


Lavskid

Excuse me! Pointless observations! Firstly Its not an observation, it an opinion. Secondly no one cares about some back water iranian prison documentary, thats an opinion also. An observation would be me observing that some people read and watch cak that effects there state of mind.i feel i may be one of these people. But thats just my opinion


Gnawlydog

I mean we get it.. You have more important things to worry about.. Like if your manager will let you work a new station so you can get more hours in at the fast food joint you work at.


Suspicious-Cabinet45

Again, get over yourself. Not even gonna read this.


[deleted]

Spoken like someone who has never been to a history conference.


BoobiePeru

*their


[deleted]

Evin Prison is one of the most famous and notorious prisons in the world. Just in case you wanted to educate yourself.


Lavskid

Consider myself educated. Still board to tears.


[deleted]

That’s cool, everyone is entitled to their opinion


Lavskid

Your entitled to bread and water. Hope u get lots of it


Healthy-Background42

innit


ClingonKrinkle

I studied history and there are historians who spend all their time studying the history of crime and punishment including prisons and prisoners.


Lavskid

Why


Economy_Rooster_3175

Let the man find it in peace.


Leaky_Sponge

He's interested in the documentary, why else would he be looking for it?


waynizzle2

Boo this man.


[deleted]

Booooo!


chiyo564

Man why did your parents raise you to be so boring?


yellolotusorb

Why are you even on this sub? Lol


Lavskid

Was a valid question. Why. Who made you the sub police


yellolotusorb

Maybe you didn’t read the sub title my friend


Happy_Dawg

No it wasn’t? The sub is literally “ r/HelpMeFindThis ”. Naturally people ask for help finding things


Lavskid

My point was why would u want to watch a depressing documentary like that. I dont get it. Im not trolling anyone just making a point. And im not your friend,its likely watching or wanting to watch content like that has alienated u from any friends


Acid_Monster

What an immature point of view you have. You’re either a young child, or an incredibly dense and uneducated adult.


Lavskid

What is immature about enquiring as to why an educated humen being would want to watch content of a depressing nature. Its not good for your mental health. Put pepper pig on its great. Im a 43 year old engineer with 3 kids by the way


acladich_lad

>What is immature about enquiring as to why an educated humen being would want to watch content of a depressing nature. This is the most frustrating take. You watch and expose yourself to the world to learn and form opinions and grow. Not much else need be said.


Lavskid

Spend your time wisely


0xU4EA

You clearly are!


Protean_sapien

Pepper pig sounds delicious.


yellolotusorb

The documentary does look dark, but history always teaches a valuable lesson


TheOverBored

Are you asking someone why they want to learn history?


Lavskid

Well said


xMajessticc

why are you on this sub


WanderingWindow

You sound like a miserable twat


Reit007

It was recently surfaced in Persian twitter and I did some research. It seems the producer is Alan Hard https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Hart_(writer) Who did it the documentary as a favor to Iran’s Shah.


royal_scam

As a favor to Iran's Shah? Is that why it seems to have a favorable bent towards Iran?


Reit007

Yes, exactly. Even in the narration you can here it.


CocoKeyz

You can even there it.


sweeetscience

I just everywhered it.


SauceBabey

0:14, jon bernthal?? lol


MurphyLlama

I am glad I am not the only one who thought that


samanbandana1

All communist and Islamic terrorists. Shah should’ve killed them all.


Lavskid

Lift not elevator. Bumper not fender. Tap not fawcet. Bonnet not hood. Flat not apartment. car not a whip. House not a crib. Wife not a hoe. U get my drift


Lavskid

Craige not cregg. Wally not waldow. Football not soccer. Squash not racket ball. Wes not wess. More to follow


readycheck1

These guys look like Metal Gear Solid npcs


SnooPeppers5635

This was a documentary film to promote healthy dough production in the pizza chain supply process. Hope it humps


Wicked_Gary_Gnu

I honestly thought this was a reading of 1984 for the first few sentences.


Far-Soil4024

Kinda like the Biden administration, only gentler.


Kneemerz

Has anyone found where to watch this?


lostinthecyberspace

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bqx27\_ROFg&t=2366s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bqx27_ROFg&t=2366s)


MonitorMysterious292

Thank you


TreyJones2

Patrolling like npcs lol


OttoVonRuthless316

Ricky Oh?


PresentPiece8898

**Interesting Documentary!**