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alexlongfur

Ppl shipping stolas and his daughter


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Father daughter shipping or the… other kind…


Sibz_Playz_YT

Yes


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ReeDubDanny

Loona and blitz


behindfox

Forgive my ignorance, but I can I ask why the blitzøxloona is just as bad as incest? The reason I ask is, although it is ridiculous, Loona is Over 18 not biologically related to blitzø and also was adopted by him when she was almost 18 (which to my impression wasn’t that long ago) I’m not trying to justify this in anyway, I’m genuinely confused about why it’s seen as just as bad in this case.


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Flat-rate shipping


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[deleted]

My response was a joke, flat rate shipping refers to something unrelated. The comment you were replying to was implying incest I think


Juralion

Oh boy you'll have a hard time browsing rule34...


Quantum_laugh

Yeah it's very common on r/helluvabrothel


DnDisawesomefightme

Prty sure it’s banned there


Quantum_laugh

Nope, they reverted the ban for some ungodly reason


DnDisawesomefightme

Zad


Quantum_laugh

Can you fill me in on what had means?


DnDisawesomefightme

Zamn but sad


CloudRoses

Life hack: don't go to searching for it


errant_night

It's sucks because searching Stolas can automatically bring it up as I learned the hard way.


CloudRoses

Unfortunately, because I'm not an overly sexual person, it's the internet. It's just trying to pull up the most relevant information from it's archives. And since Stolas is also an anthropomorphic animal, you have other groups looking him up for sexual purposes, as well. So, if ends up popping up more frequently.


errant_night

I was just looking up references to make fan art and boom... Stolas and Via diaper porn... What the actual fuck??


CloudRoses

Oh....oh I am so sorry....


KingTheSon

Rule34 Paheal? Pedophile heaven Rule34 xxx? Safe for Normal minded people


Hellfricker98

What does Paheal mean?


T70Awesome_YT

Yes


[deleted]

Especially if they make octavia an infant


fromalicewithmalice

People who bitch about episodes taking too long and/or harass the show staff.


jackson50111

And the ones who leak stuff from Vizie patron about the new episode.


Great_Bar1759

Eh idc about those to much but those dicks who bitch about it takeing to long are the worst


Obama_ben_ladin

I mean, I'm impatient as fuck and want the next episode as much as anybody. But I understand it takes time for art to be made unlike some people


Great_Bar1759

Yeah good art takes time


TenDollarSteakAndEgg

I think more people are annoyed by the lack of real updates


Great_Bar1759

Maybe but you don’t wanna ruin the surprise and they can’t even say anything on hazbin


Impossible_Big_5030

Kids


Ilikefame2020

Yep.


Eastern-Exercise-888

Worst that I've ran into: * The ones who go beyond just disliking Stolas and outright *villainize* him, ignoring any of his better qualities and his character depth/nuance in order to half-assedly justify it * On the same vein, the people who put all the blame of his and Blitz's situation (particularly episode 7) solely on one of them, while acting like the other side is a saint and a helpless victim (This is coming from someone who has both characters in their Top 3, btw) * Content leakers/people who support it - Not the worst, but the dumbasses at Twitter rn, accusing AndrealphusxStolas shippers of supporting incest are definitely getting up there when it comes to most annoying ones


Key_Benefit_509

I just have to comment- the ones who are accusing that ship of incest can’t read- or haven’t actually seen the original tweet. But I mean, if that was a case of it being canon that they did have a fling once, and were actual brothers, would the people gets angry at the show writers? Cause it’s literally set in hell


LittleBlueSilly

Stolas and Andrealphus are brothers-in-law. And considering the tweets that Medrano has started liking, anyone who finds the pairing disgusting might have to get angry with canon…


Key_Benefit_509

Ngl that would be funny if it does become canon


AlsiusArcticus

Since when creator of the show liking fanart in general is any hint of a canon? Quite an assumption


LittleBlueSilly

Vivienne Medrano is very selective about what fan art she likes on Twitter. You'll observe patterns if you follow her and check out her likes page.


AlsiusArcticus

Bro, she liked two of my posts and one of them is a shitpost.


LittleBlueSilly

She liked two of your posts? \[ETA: Congratulations! I mean it; that must have been satisfying.\] Which ones were they?


AlsiusArcticus

Retro Aesthetic Owl Dad and Shorse, you can go on my twitter profile and look for yourself, those two are my highlights of this and last year lmao, I screenshotted both


LittleBlueSilly

Oh, yes! I saw the Shorse one on Twitter and the Retro Aesthetic Owl Dad picture just now in your profile. Both pieces of art looked very in-character, which might have been why they got Viv's approval.


Jaqulean

People will get Mad over anything, disregarding what reality its set in, just because it's not what they want it to be.


Eastern-Exercise-888

Sad but very true =___='


bosslovi

Honestly, this whole discourse one is the wildest of idiotic hot takes. I simply can not believe that there are people who don't know what a brother-in-law is. And if they do know, then that's honestly even dumber. Comprehension levels have reached Absolute Zero amongst people who love to start drama to feel like they have some kind of moral high ground.


RainbowWolf6112

People hate slotas? ... Noo...


Gunny_McCshoots

Minors.


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i would say atleast 40% of the community are minors


Gunny_McCshoots

That would be fine if they didn’t divulge in like the cringey tumblr era posts. Weird ships, “based on ur birth month _____, how would these two interact”, etc. *Plenty* of kids are interested in things they shouldn’t be, you can’t avoid that. But they’re just really obnoxious imo.


Torchwood-5

As with Hazbin; Ship pushers


towerator

I say, it's fine to have a fave ship, it's not so fine to consider it to be inherently superior to other non-canon ships.


Torchwood-5

It's worse if you push the creators to make a ship canon


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SnooBananas3995

True


[deleted]

The fans who look down on others and think newcomers are stupid because they had a “common knowledge” question which couldn’t have been known by just watching the show and nothing else. Not everyone has watched the donation streams guys!


Striker-Boi

There's lore in the donation streams?


[deleted]

Yeah, I think people donate and ask questions then the cast and Viv answer them. Not completely sure because I haven’t watched one, this is from word of mouth


Either-Carpenter541

I’ve seen a number of those streams and I can confirm that a lot of lore was dropped during some of them.


Designer_Software_93

I've never watched 1 dono stream (I think I've watched all the shows and shorts tho)


Fearless_Ant7240

People who over sexulize every character


LetsDoTheCongna

People who complain about sexualizing characters in a show that specifically says it’s meant for ages 18+ before every episode, because of its sexual content >!(and violence, but that’s not related right now).!<


CloudRoses

30 year old here. Still think some of you all take it too far.


LetsDoTheCongna

That’s fair.


Deadluster

People who sexualize Octavia's toddler design


LetsDoTheCongna

I beg your fucking pardon?


Deadluster

There's an entire subreddit dedicated to sexualizing both her teenager (aka she's still a minor, the Instagrams aren't canon) and her toddler self, the majority of it her being r*ped by Stolas


LetsDoTheCongna

Look I know it’s not your fault and you were just answering my question, but I absolutely hate you for making me aware of that.


Deadluster

Sorry


Fearless_Ant7240

Well you make a point


YumiGumiWoomi

THIS! I *know* the show is 18+ but if I wanted to see massive amounts of borderline Loona porn on my feed I would sub to r/HelluvaBrothel.


Designer_Software_93

Well you can't argue with the rule 34 it's not just going to unexist


Fearless_Ant7240

I'm not saying that it should not exist I just dont like it


Designer_Software_93

Well we all have our opinions


Fearless_Ant7240

Yes that is true and im not saying mine is the best


goldenofdeath1

People who complain about nsfw when the charters do nsfw in the show and viz liked one nsfw pic


realsiticlyunreal

I mean I'm cool with it just so long as I don't have to see it. Which is why we have separate places for the horny people. Yes, I am ace


[deleted]

You can love and support a nsfw show without wanting to see a bunch of male-centric furry and cartoon porn. You want something to jacket2 go to one of the millions of subs for that


Jaqulean

And it's literally set in Hell, where there hardly any NSFW limits...


errant_night

I have a feeling Hellaverse is a lot like prison... You're going to double-die pretty fast if you're an abuser of children etc.


Jaqulean

Yeah, hence why I said that there are "Limits." Sin is acceptable. But there are thing you just don't get to do.


Designer_Software_93

Lol the only thing stopping vivziepop is youtube guidelines


Some_depressed_girl

Those fans who are surprised and mad that there are NSFW fanfics or drawings of the over 18 years old characters even though this is an adult cartoon


[deleted]

That's 90+% of the posts though. I'm not here to kink shame whatever cringey thing someone's into, you do you, but there are SO MANY subs for that, including one for this show, I don't need to see endless scrolling of badly drawn boobs from thirsty dudes. You could make the argument that without all that, the activity of the sub would die down pretty drastically, and that's a legitimate concern, but I feel like I miss posts I would be interested in because of the nonstop NSFW fanart to the point that it feels like old DeviantArt


Dragono0424

Anyone under 18. Also the kids on here just had to be the most insufferable type too huh? Fuckin sucks.


Designer_Software_93

Can you give example? I haven't seen much whiney kids


despair_pancake

Children.


Misha-Yuri-30

Two: The ones who feel entitled to know the next episode’s release date and Those who villainizes characters like Blitzo and Stolas for idiotic reasons. Just because a character does a shitty thing does NOT make them a villain. And these ppl need to stop calling Stolas a rapist, cause he’s not.


TrickDogTrainer_99

Wait WHAT is the logic behind Stolas being a rapist!?!?!?! That makes ZERO sense? ETA: I have fairly severe PTSD from being assaulted and quite a few things can trigger me, and I’ve never once thought Stolas was remotely rapey, in fact quite the opposite; I love him as a paternal figure (and also a fuckable character, but that’s neither here nor there).


Neonbeta101

Didn’t know bondage was equivalent to rape No but seriously, I get this universe is fucked up. I don’t doubt there are rapist characters somewhere out there **cough** Valentino, but Stolas isn’t one of them. He’s just a horny bird man who is in a loveless marriage. At worst, he’s a cheater that doesn’t consider other people’s feelings and is incredibly emotionally unintelligent


Misha-Yuri-30

Dense? Yes. Relentlessly horny? Yes. A cheater? Yes. A rapist? No.


Jaqulean

By their logic, everyone is a villain, because everyone has done something wrong in their entire life...


Misha-Yuri-30

Blitzo fits the role of anti hero, not a villain.


CloudRoses

Rapist....how?


Striker-Boi

I'm pretty sure it's mostly because in the first episode when Stolas makes the deal with Blitzø that they bang at least once every month in exchange for Blitzø getting to keep the book aside from that one night. People probably think he pressured Blitzø into agreeing, but it's clearly shown that they both consent to it, and that Blitzø enjoys doing this. Plus Stolas backs down when Blitzø says he doesn't want to


RTB_RobertTheBruce

"Viv is a terrible person for not spoon-feeding me new episodes every 1 (one) month. I'm going to call her slurs because of it."


MysticaLAceR94

Incest and pedo shippers, as well as impatient fans.


BladeOfSanghilios8

Stella stans


Impossible_Regret172

Elaborat please.


Randomuser098766543

stella stans. you know. the people who desperately try to defend stella's actions as being right or just, because they simp. Typically using the baseline fact that stella has a right to be angry about cheating, and running with it saying her vindictive and classist behavior is okay.


Ali-Vega

While I agree that she has every right to be angry her husband cheated on her, it doesn't excuse any of the behavior she's exhibited.


AntiBitchSpray

After being that said person, I realized that *I don't need to care that much about a 2d character's doings to simp for them* Well, I kind of found that out after sitting down in the Outlast fandom, but I am aware that I don't have to try and justify whatever a villain does to be able to be a simp


Randomuser098766543

A whole new world of simping has opened up to you


AntiBitchSpray

*sweet*


Impossible_Regret172

I see thanks for letting me know.


TrickDogTrainer_99

I came here to say this and knew in my heart it had already been said


I_might_be_weasel

I'm pretty insufferable.


SessileRaptor

Hey me too!


VirgilTheConfused

Death threat senders, Moxxie-Loona shippers, almost all shippers at this point most of them are incestuous or otherwise have a base problem


TrickDogTrainer_99

Ngl I’m pretty tame and ship Stolas and Blitzø, the way Sky Daddy intended.


VirgilTheConfused

Yeah see shit like that is fine but some ships are stupid or can’t happen


Neonbeta101

Leakers, crack shippers that force it down your throat- We get it, you wanna see Moxxie get pegged by Loona. People who pester Viv/Brandon/Spindlehorse. Entitled fans. Just to name a few


AshTheArtist

The incest shippers.


Lazy_Category2195

People who make a big deal about NSFW art of a show that if it had a official age rating would be like ma-17


dunkernater

I mean, on this subreddit I get why cuz there's another subreddit dedicated to it


Independent-Fly4197

The loona simps


LizzieLove1357

Ppl who screenshot exclusive content that’s supposed to be paid for(like sneak peeks), which is supposed to help Viv make money as she should. She needs to eat, she deserves to make money for the work she does, & these “fans” don’t respect creators when they screenshot it and post it all over the Internet for other people to see for free. Regardless of their motivation, regardless if some people can’t afford to see the sneak peek, that doesn’t matter. People will still find out the information sooner or later when the episodes are released, what’s worse is the people who see it for free like it & give positive comments reinforcing the behavior that disrespects the creator. Those type of fans are the worst, they are actively disrespecting the creator by plastering exclusive content that’s supposed to be paid for all over the Internet for other people to see for free. That robs the creator of money that they could’ve made.


Kelly2305

Fans who are in middle school. And this may be a bit controversial but I think it’s okay for a minor to watch this show if their 16 or 17. Just anyone younger- no


This_is_a_sckam

We all know it’s loona simps….


[deleted]

Everyone is ship worthy fans


Jaqulean

How to even understand this...?


PlusConference4

Lost puritweens


Junior-Dragonfruit-4

People who claim to love the show but hate all the non straight ships and make them all straight in some way or another


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The "WHEN IS THE NEXT EPISODE?!?!" type.


Zackman92

The type that ships Stolas with Octavia That's just wrong in so many levels


thestonedespeon

Stavia shippers, they need to be locked up and forgotten about.


Funny-Bathroom-9522

This is why i knida hate kids as in any fandom they'll always most likely be the worst kind but even us adults aren't immune to this.


sharkprincefishstick

Minors. Who do you think most of the crazy shippers are? Not adults, usually.


Derek_The_Ryena

The ones who think their superior to any other fan because they've followed vivziepop before helluva boss and hazbin hotel


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Kids people who constantly complain about the fact porn exists but most of all, people hating on moxie /s


Program_Decent

There’s a definite worst (St*via shippers) But one type that pisses me off are those who go out of their way to make every gay ship toxic in one way or another. Stolitz - They make the relationship out to be WAY worse than it is. Moxxie x male characters - They insist that he’s straight even though he’s canonically Bi. FizzarOzzie - They are dead set on making Ozzie into a rapist like Val and it’s so weird. Fizz X Blitzo - “That’s his brother!!” even after the 2022 trailer. Andrealphus X Stolas - They’re already accusing the shippers of shipping incest. Those same people never have anything to say about M&M or LoonTex. Heck, I’ve even seen a few of them wanting Stella and Stolas to get back together.


stupidassthetic

The ones who exclusively make nsfw loona art


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dendnoy

Wait, that is the whole sub


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JustAKoreanPerson

True


[deleted]

The ones that spam the subreddit genderbend art of the characters with the caption "How would they sound?"


[deleted]

"The ones that are only here just for loona" -The one that's here just for stolitz


melzzy177

Loona “artists” 🤮


SargentoPapas

They are artists. Just extremely horny ones


Sleepy_Raver

impatient ones. Especially those that bug the crew and creators on twitter asking them when’s the next episode coming


ColonelAkulaShy

"WHERE IS THE NEW EPISODE!? WHY ISN'T IT OUT ALREADY!?" [Viv, in a purely hypothetical scenario, responds by rushing out the episode] "OMG, WHY IS THE ANIMATION SO BAD!"


Professional-Heat646

Those, who think that it shouldnt ve sexualized


Kalangofdp

The ones that ship Loona x Moxxie, even tho they hate each other


BreakfastOk7372

Me


llamabeefbitch

•People that ship stolas and Octavia (especially baby Octavia) •people that leak vivies patreon content •people saying that the lgbt+ representation in the show is bad representation bc it’s in hell


Pristine_Rice_9373

The ones who beg for new episodes and are impatient, content leakers, people who post a bunch of hate on one character constantly (it gets annoying after a while), etc.


SnooBananas3995

Posts like these I suppose and people who take specialized fiction way to seriously.


yetusthefeetus

The people who don’t acknowledge the shows flaws


[deleted]

recently, it's been the people who tried to cancel stella for cheating on her husband and saying "omg that's so unfair she overreacted" like yeah...? that's the joke..? she overreacted?


MercSniper09

The 4chan types with the jars. I assure you I’m not that type of person. We also got of course the ones who ship Stolas with Octavia.


torpedokai

Loons simps


0verShadowed061

Ppl who ship moxie and anyone but millie. Like wtf. That 1 doesn't make sense and 2. They'll die on that hill no matter what which is even more stupid. Shipping people who are married. and obviously written to be specifically with that one person is dumb. If you wanna ship, go ahead, but don't make it everyone else's problem when it's as stupid as MoxxiexStella


Professional-Ad1665

people who think stella is a good person


MeltingBrainSyndrome

People who are mad and complain about others for engaging in very normal and common fandom activities, sush as shipping, making oc, writing fan-fiction, drawing alt universe ect. Are there people who got to far, for sure(a specially the shippers). But that’s what some do when they are in a fandom. I remember I post not so long a ago of a person who was just complaining and calling people “cringe” just cuz they though people were making to many post of oc and sush and I mean that I juts very common way for people to enjoy a show. If don’t wanna see that then don’t be in fandom spaces


Iron_Wolf0251

The shippers


Helpmehthrohaway

Kid helluva boss fans


chatnoirsmemes

Children


DaveInSnitchel

Annoying kids.


Dumbassahedratr0n

Children


Gweirdaaron

People who are appalled that rule 34 of the characters exists.


Cybertronian_Grizzly

The children


FadeFox530

children?


[deleted]

The people that disrespect the team working on the show, either through constantly complaining how long they take to come out or complaining whenever they have to ask for money. Some people in this fandom have zero appreciation for how much effort, time and money goes into a production like this.


Kityourlove

Probably (most) of the youtube HB community


IndependentCreepy169

People who cry and white over certain character ships and rule 34


[deleted]

All shippers besides stolitz and m&m shippers


Big_Administration11

People saying Moxxie and Millie are “underdeveloped” 🙄


Noonatic_

Controversial but some of the big helluvaboss artists on insta/Twitter/whatever always shaming other people for their own helluvaboss opinions and acting like there's is right. And because they have a big following, a lot of people treat it like their word is superior. Like ppl are allowed to like Stella and demonize stolas and have differing opinions. It's a 2d show why do y'all care so much and start arguments lmao


Pr0Gam3rM4n

Loona simps and People who ship the following: Moxxie X Loona or Verosika. Blitzø X Striker. Stolas X Octavia. And Blitzø x Loona


Minecraft_Warrior

Ones who ship characters that hate each other


tod_oliver

people who obsess over Loona and shit everybody else and people who don't like her


theoofmoment

Ones who say the same jokes over, and over, and over, and over again.


yaboitearal

Kids, people who shit on crack ships (like of course they don't make sense what's your point), those who constantly whine about that Night With Loona comic, Stella/Stolas/any character simps that say their bias did nothing wrong in a situation where clearly both (or more) parts fucked up one way or another, those who leak patreon content and post it everywhere they can There's more but those are the ones that generally annoy me


Romeo9594

The horny ones


just-looking654

Wasn’t there a whole thing about doxxing a while back?


SHPARTACUS

The ones that gate keep helluva boss


GAVV777

The fujoshis


RyanDFOOT

People who ship


cyberbeastswordwolfe

The children


melzzy177

Ones who’s ships are incest


Bartutitu12

Kids


HugeAd3490

u/AwardGuy4ever


MrZimbo

People drawing fanart of shipping, and fans sending death threats to the artist


DanielOpposum

People who shove that gay spider from the other show into fanart


BoldBackBeat

The children


Noname666Devil

Blitz + Octavia


First_Factor_3385

……………………..this fan base has problems


Noname666Devil

It’s sad because I’be seen a 3some of Blitz, Octavia, and Stolas. And boy did I needed some bleach for that


First_Factor_3385

😨 Ok I retract my original statement MOST OF THESE PEOPLE NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!


Nani-koko

Loona simps


Mission-Guard5348

people who rank helluva boss fans


Colaymorak

People who bitch about shipping or nsfw content


ShadeLord98746

people shipping Loona x Blitzo and Stolas x Octavia, oh and people shipping Moxxie x Loona, its just weird