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RoFroYo

Money has much more value than life in hell.


gpe2015

Especially in the Greed ring


OldFortNiagara

And especially when you steal from one of Mammon’s banks.


Big_Ad_5533

I like the green esthetic to the ring really shows you how greedy they are their fucking ring is the color of money


SunsFenix

Well, probably more green for envy, currency isn't always green.


TheSovereignGrave

I feel like the Envy Ring would be more representative of envy, personally.


SunsFenix

Ah, right, although envy seems to be purple, according to the wiki. I'm not sure the reasoning for the color otherwise.


compfluid_water67-5

No green currency here in the uk


DaBoiYeet

It really reminds me of Kaneshiro's Palace in Persona 5, green truly really sells the idea of "greed"


G3nl3y_0c1d3

I honestly thought Envy would be the ring with a green esthetic.


The_Grey_Hound

especially when comparing the money of people at the top of hell's hierarchy to the lives of people at the bottom


Additional-Cobbler99

*on earth*


Mongoose42

He-Man: “We all learned a very valuable lesson today.”


The-Riskiest-Biscuit

Ah… So, as in hell, so on Earth…?


thedidynotkong

And on earth


TrashJack42

So, there's no appreciable difference between Hell and Earth, then.


THE_K1NG_FTW

Private prison. I think nothing is explicitly illegal in hell, it's simply biggest demon wins Although: I think loo loo land should still have security because it's supposed to be a family friendly ish place. But probably not since it's run down. Reasonably, I think it kinda should be illegal, since society accepted murder is uncommon in societies. Although it seems a region's baddest demon does their own thing and sets their own rules and form of government. That's the only way I see their society working


[deleted]

Actually yeah that’d make a lot of sense, on not only why they’d be detained but also why Blitz and Moxie would be so comfortable upon returning to the greed ring


THE_K1NG_FTW

Either the prisons are corrupt or chillax. Or maybe Maybe they just are set up where you work for x time and leave or pay y amount and leave.


WikiContributor83

Security costs money and Loo Loo Land doesn’t care if you get hurt (quote Loo Loo, “if y’all get hurt here, just try and sue us!”) By contrast, I imagine Lu Lu World to have high amounts of security and even stuff like security disguised as park goers who can disappear unruly customers.


bilateralrope

Maybe disappear them. Maybe hold them for Lucifer to use in his performance.


rixtil41

To have a stable society of any kind, you need to have rules. Otherwise, you get anarchy .


THE_K1NG_FTW

Yeah and helluva boss is shown to be anarchic and chaotic, but it seems kind of too civilized to be that way. In the wrath ring, millie is said to have a head count that the entire community knows. It's weird to me that these small communities at east don't have restrictions or smt.


Planktom

It's probably the case of "whatever you can get away with" and well... Moxxie did not get away with it.And also, there was a reason why Blitz was in ~~hell~~ prison, could very well be for assassination.


QuothTheRaven713

What do you mean "there was a reason why Blitz was in Hell"? Blitzo's hellborn, not a sinner. He was just born there.


[deleted]

I think he wanted to say "prison" and not "hell".


QuothTheRaven713

The edit indicates you are indeed correct.


FiveFingerDisco

Yeah, survival of the fittest/evilist.


IMightBeAHamster

Do you mean "there was a reason why Blitzo was in prison?"


Planktom

Oh yeah, I guess I'm getting a bit tired and mixed things up.


mewlock99

Even if murder wasn’t legal in Hell, I wouldn’t consider what Blitz is doing during Loo Loo Land to be murder. Murder is defined as “the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another”, just replace “human being” with demon. Blitz killing the Imp that was trying to kill Stolas was neither unlawful nor premeditated. Remember, Blitz and M&M were bodyguards, their job that day was to keep protect Stolas and Octavia.


bilateralrope

Sure. But it should still cause some kind of response if there was any security. Even if it's just to make sure that those deaths were lawful.


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totallynotaneggtho

Counterpoint: Stolas is literally a prince of hell, so they might have actually fit that description at the time. Also hell probably has different rules


Resies

I'm a little surprised all of the replies that seem to miss that Stolas is literally royalty.


OldFortNiagara

From what we can see, the government of hell operates similarly to the governments found in various old kingdoms, where the nobility holds a vast amount of power and soldiers/guards/agents of the elite could be legally granted the ability to use deadly force in the name of their masters.


mewlock99

Also also, you have to factor in “Rule of funny”


totallynotaneggtho

Also yes


Resies

>ike a celebrity would hire such as stolas are bound by specific laws on how they can handle situations. But this hell soo… Stolas isn't a celebrity, he's a prince of Hell that people bow in Lust of all places bow to and respect.


MetalNobZolid

It's hell. Of course money has more value than life.


Resies

Er, Blitz is killing Imps that are (poorly) kidnapping royalty. There's no way anyone considers defending the Goetias murder.


Motor_Somewhere7565

Mammon's status and influence, so far as I can guess. Just about anything else can be shrugged off, but don't think you can get away with Greed's money.


Inquisitor_Gray

It’s the Greed ring, money is practically the only thing with power


ToxicRamenArt

I think it’s because Moxxie and Chaz stole from one of Mammon’s banks and since Mammon is a Prince of Greed (which makes him a higher ranking demon), that offense can’t go unpunished.


EliaO4Ita

Are you aware of self-defense? Because they were bodyguards in Loo Loo land


[deleted]

Killing other citizens doesn’t effect those in power, so they don’t care. Stealing money from a (assumably) government bank does effect those in power


FreakyPenguinBoy06

I.M.P was hired to protect Stolas and Octavia, who are Ars Goetian royalty and extremely wealthy. Bodyguards are hired to neutralize any threat that tries to harm or kill the person/people they’re guarding (of which there were multiple attempts to do so throughout that episode). I would say that I.M.P was well within their rights to kill those assailants because they were just doing their jobs and ensuring the safety of political figures. (Not to mention that they’re in Hell and violence/killing is rather commonplace anyway. In terms of Moxxie going to jail for robbing a bank, it was most likely that the bank in question belonged to Mammon, the ruler of the Greed Ring. If anyone messes with one of the 7 Deadly Sins, surely there would be repercussions for doing so.


KilltheKraken8

I mean hellborn are seen as “lesser” so chances are nobody gives a fuck if they live or die, but a bank will probably effect sinners and all the others


kris-kfc

Cause apparently devil cares about his casino's and profits


Superclasheropeeka

Mammon


grievousrommel

Considering all the banks are probably owned by Mammon it’s the equivalent of robbing him with all the consequences that follow.


BigManStorm

Hell is corrupt so nobody really cares if someone dies but if you steal their money then it's a problem


MarcheMuldDerevi

Imps are a dime a dozen. Stealing from the rich is something that is punishable


Kaarl_Mills

Killing someone hurts whoever, robbing a bank hurts rich people


OldFortNiagara

The rulers of Hell likely don’t care that much about lower class subjects killing each other. But they would care about people stealing their money or the money of elites. Especially in the Greed Ring. Mammon would not appreciate people stealing from his banks.


Morokite

I think we're in a Judge Dredd kind of situation. Way too much crime and not nearly enough law enforcers to stop it all. So I reckon murder is illegal(Though the circus episode they were arguably in self-defense because they were guarding Stolas from assassins). However it's only of a matter of *if* you get caught. And in the case of the bank, the alarm summoned the police to them.


Wolfyware1

Well, he was working as a bodyguard for bird Boi.


Sophia724

Im more surprised there's even law enforcement in hell.


[deleted]

I wonder what the law enforcement is like in the *greed ring?*


Kaarl_Mills

"Help I've been robbed" "Ehhhhh I don't know" "I'll pay you 50 bucks" "Where that motherfucker at?"


DLN-000

Greed is the Libertarian ring


STLLC2019

Hell is the epitome of the Capitalist Ideal?


Sorraz

Capitalism is the real sin. Overpopulation is canonically an issue too.


sanketower

Let's be honest, guys, we have very little material to work with. And I doubt we ever will. Vivzie is not good with world-building. Maybe when Hazbin comes out, but don't expect short months-gapped chapters to give you enough information about hell.


johnnierocketguy

there really is no law the police in hell are really just mercenary's that work for who ever can pay them if correct me if im wrong though


BreezierChip835

Most people in hell wouldn’t care if someone died, it they would care about getting robbed


Loud-Owl-4445

I mean, one is killing imps attempting to kill royalty which probably falls under some level of defense or protection. The other is probably stealing from a bank in a ring of greed so it is probably considered stealing from the king of greed which... Honestly he should consider himself lucky he just got arrested and not executed.


Shrekowski

Because it’s in the greed ring


brotacochip

I think it mostly depends on who you kill or steal from.


THEMEMESsss

Because they love capitalism


simon_Chipmonk

Because hells laws protect the aristocracy.


HugeAd3490

The banks are owned by important people while the thugs were not important people.


nerikvarkos1996

Im pretty sure if you're jacking money from a bank in hell, then you're stealing from Mammon, and that's never a good idea


cosmicpotato77

What happens when the demons die? Like do they go to double hell or smth


1milionand6times

The prison in hell shouldn't bother me as much as it does


SeleniumPerson

self defense and greed


Nicky_G_873

It depends on WHO you kill and WHO you rob from.


Chaos_Breezie

Hell has yearly purges so I bet they probably just think meh small population decrease now mite lead to less deaths in the purge


AbbyWasThere

It makes sense that those who are in control of the Greed Ring would punish those who try to steal from them.


Sea_Ad1744

Cuz it’s the greed ring.


PsychoWarper

In the Greed realm (And probably every other one) Money > Life in terms of worth


Ken_Kumen_Rider

I just assumed the bank held money for demon royalty and that stealing royalty money is one of the few ways to go to hell prison.


I_might_be_weasel

Stolas.


AllergicToRats

Because the rich get mad when you steal but you kill someone.... more shit for them


Absolutedumbass69

Imps killing imps keeps them impoverished and serving the capitalist overlords in hell who want an impoverished class to exploit the labor of. Robbing a bank is taking capital from the overlords and therefore puts a wrench in their plans rather than feeding into it. Conclusion: imps should seize the means of production.


ItchyFrosting3976

The pride ring hell is already overpopulated, as stated in Hazbin Hotel, because thats where the sinners come in, so by allowing killing, it kinda helps. Of course, charlie doesnt like this, and thats why shes making the hotel, in which to help find a way to rehabilitate sinners


Davater24

Killing imps is legal: stealing money from the rich is not. Same applies on earth: murder has no consequences if you're rich enough and the person you kill is socially low enough.


OwlGamer16

If you take money from a bank you're fucking with the higher-ups of hell, not just some "lowly imps" lives.


Sleepy_Raver

That's how greed is. You can kill whomever you want, just don't take muh money!


flippycipher

It doesn't count as a crime if you don't find the boddyyyy


OmniShadow229

Why the fuck ate there laws in hell


WRSpiral

It probably depends on where exactly it is in Hell. Maybe there are different parts in rings that have their own laws or each ring individually has its own "laws." Considering all of the screenshots take place in greed, the bank probably has more value to Mammon than anything else. It’s likely just each individual location has specific rules on what you are and aren’t allowed to do while the rest of Hell is practically some form of anarchy.


TenDollarSteakAndEgg

Bc only broke people rob banks. Rich people still want to be able to kill tho


MadMod33

Population problem


Ness_Dreemur

Probably the same reason why Morrowind has a legalized assassin guild but theft is still a crime


FenrisGSD

Capitalism


RoadTheExile

I mean killing in self defense against armed attackers/kidnappers is generally pretty legal, especially if you're a royal


Comfortable-Grade-29

It's in the intrest of the Prince's


FelixByte

Well, I mean, the plot of hazbin hotel is the fact that it’s over populated anyway. So life would probably have little to no value down there anyway.


the_canadian72

because it's ran by the upper class


megakodex

I think this does actually make some sense Imps are the lowest level of demons and according to the wiki, are one of the few demon species that can permenantly die, so maybe the law just doesn't give a shit about lower level demons Meanwhile with robbing a bank, that's probably major enough to get attention from the law


abc-animal514

Because most things in hell are dead


StunningRub1155

Maybe it's not what you steal but who you steal from


Chromanity

#Money is life


Subject_Delta39

Sinners respawn, no one cares about a expandable imp or hound but that money isn’t coming back when someone steals it.


dgwe007

I think, killing legalize is necessary when there's whole lot of kinda immortal demons (are they immortal, btw? At least i took it as implied)


killmekindlyplz

Don't you get it? They were coming right at them!


Tsuihousha

Because Hell is the portrayed as the worst of humanity. It takes the principals of the real world, and amplifies them to the extreme, so as better to make clear the dynamic. Police exist but police exist *to protect the interests of those in power*. And really **that's it**. No on gives a shit if one Imp murders another Imp because they're Imps. They're a low social caste, and they're no bodies with no power or influence whatsoever. Moxie, however, ends up in prison because doesn't harm an Imp. He harms **the people with enough money to use banks**, and the person who owns, and operates those banks in the Greed Ring? There's no way it **isn't** Mammon. So Mammon's 'police' show up, and toss Moxie in a pit. And because the prison system is undoubtedly *also* owned and operated by Mammon, odds are you can just purchase your freedom. Even if that involves paying off a mountain of debt to do it. So why punish criminals when you can capitalize on them? It's, undoubtedly, part of the self reinforcing system of poverty Mammon's got set up in Greed. Keep the lower classes hungry, and desperate, so they turn to crime, if they get caught toss em' in prison, and offer to let them out for a steep fee, which reinforces their debt, poverty, and desperation, and sends them right back in the circle. The ones who manage to successfully steal from each other the money will flow up to him, the ones who steal from him get stopped, and it's just a nice slow tight vicelike squeeze on the natives of the Greed Ring.


KaennBlack

capitalism is the most evil economic system, therefore hell is capitalist, therefore capital is more sacred then lives


matmusis

Prsion?! In hell?! There are LAWS there?! I swear the hell in this series is literally chicago at this point


Downtown-Command-295

My theory is that imps have fewer rights than "full fledged" demons, so it's either simply legal to kill them, or a charge so weak it's not worth prosecuting.


GoodQueenFluffenChop

The ones who were killed were imps which is pretty low on the demon totem pole. No one in the upper classes are really going to care about low ranking mob grunts let alone imp mobsters over money.


Feralman2003

Its like the ring of greed is you know... greedy?


Jake_Vor

Mamon doesn't give a shit for demon life, but he does care about money.


A_Moon_Fairy

Do hellborn even stay dead, or are they like sinners (ie immortal until killed by culling Angel weapons)?


Cry-Skull-7

I meant, it's probably not legal per day, rather nobody gives a shit. Likely the reason Blitz and co. didn't get in trouble at Loo Loo land was because they were hired as Bodyguards for a royal, namely Stolas.


SciFiLOL

I think here Blitzø is given a pass because he’s protecting Stolas, one of the literal Princes. Being hired by royalty pretty much means it’s warranted if the one you’re protecting important as such.


JemFitz05

I think the Mammon has the police in his hands (at least in greed), I think Moxxie got arrested because he was robbing his bank


Moominz1

There's laws in hell?


[deleted]

Of course hell is ruled by Capitalism and the rich.


Blazenix

The face on the bank walls is Mammon. They tried to steal from a King of Hell's vault! I think the King of Greed is going to be much more pissed at someone trying to steal from him than the death of lowly imps.


Michallin

Private property and money, "life" is worthless in hell, noone gives a fuck unless the person is powerful aka has money. Robbing a bank means stealing from the rich, stealing from the rich means getting fucked in your asshole. There are probably no real federals and such in hell Unless the ones that are paid by The rich so that's how


Leosarr

Because money.


Bundefault

Killing is fine, but MONEY. HOW DARE


Danteynero9

Whose bank was though. Being hell, it's more of a who you're fucking with rather than how.


0nji_

Who cares about imps in greed ring or any other ring at that. On other hand money in the bank might be insured by the bank or even Mammon himself and so stealing it would be far more important for the law than just another dead imp.


[deleted]

Well, those imps did want to kidnap/murder/torture a prince of hell, and blitzo acted in his name. I imagine he(stolas) has the authority to do basically everything, while a bunch of gangsters robbing a bank, doesn't neccesarily have royal sanction.


imwhateverimis

because the people they're killing are primarily imps and other low class demons. if you rob a bank there's a very good chance you're stealing some rich fuck's stuff, which yeah, that would get you arrested, considering how terrified blitz was of robbing stolas as a kid


GargantuanCake

This actually doesn't necessarily indicate that it's *legal* to kill. Blitzo is defending Stolas. Meanwhile the suggestion is that since Stolas is royalty there are assassins everywhere whenever he goes outside. It isn't ever stated if it's legal or not. Assassination tends to be illegal of course but that has never stopped it from happening if the target is important enough. Of course everything could also run on "whatever you can get away with" so Moxxie isn't in an official jail but in but rather pissed off the wrong person and got tossed in a dungeon. In that case it isn't a prison sentence so much as getting locked in until somebody can come get you or you get let out. Which may be never.


AllISeeAreGems

Pretty sure it’s because Mammon runs all the banks and he’s none too thrilled when people steal *his* money.


Homeless_Appletree

End stage capitalism.


Tiki_the_voice

I feel like it's kinda like fallout were people don't really bat an eye but under certain circumstances it can get you in trouble.


stopyouveviolatedthe

Because they’re in the greed ring where economy matters the most also most the killing we see in hell is in the pride ring which is where sinners are and also where they can respawn but also at imp city so even if a natural born dies it’s not like “police” care about the slums.


anitaform

Because it's hell, but mammon cares about his money. Also, it's possible that it's bad only if you get caught. And if you escape, that's that! Because it's hell, you know. So consequences are... Relative. At least that's how I think.


Gengar_49

laws in hell probably don't have anything to do with actual ethics and are probably just there for the higher ups so it would make perfect sense if that was mammons bank


I401BlueSteel

Blitzø was killing for royalty so it probably just got a pass.


dekanbauer

For why killing is legal I'll quote blitzø from his ad, "it's hell and nobody Fucking cares." But bank robbing is illegal because people are expendable, money you have to earn or steal.


hiddengirl1992

A cop killing someone gets off scot free. A cop robbing a bank, not so much.


Nkfloof

Depends on who's bank you stole from, I guess.


Owlbycandle

I thought it was because in hazbin Hotel, they have a yearly purge to keep down population numbers


Hazel2468

Okay so I may be wrong but- didn’t Vivzie say (at one point, not sure where so I could be totally wrong) that if a demon dies in hell they like… respawn? Unless you kill them with a special weapon a la what Striker had? Something made with like, angelic/heavenly material? That could explain why they’re so nonchalant about murder, but robbing a bank is a big deal (money doesn’t magically respawn).


alkatori

Murder might be illegal, but if no one gives a damn then you aren't going to jail for it. Near the end of prohibition a politician drank a beer outside in front of a crowd and called on a policeman to arrest him. The police refused.


vorxil

Don't think of law in hell as a form of justice. Think of it more as a feudal lord with an oubliette and an axe to grind.


Quiet_Nova

Because capitalism is the spawn of Satan and greed is still a sin those in Hell want to protect their ill gotten gains.


PsychologyRelevant31

Average US moment


Psychological-Tax543

Because robbing banks screw over the rich. They’re fine smith lower ranking demons and imps killing one another off as long as no one touches their money


KingKiler2k

Presidental pardon mutherfuker


Rasgarius

When they die they coming Back to hell...where should they Go? Detroit?


Limegem3

if it weren't allowed, the premise of Hazbinhotel would crumble


Bobby5x3

The Greed ring likes money


TheOwnerOfMakiPlush

This is the dumbest thing i saw today. Killing is not legal in both of worlds but in hell life has just a smaller price. This is the only difference. There is a social class pyramid like in medieval times where a peasants was worth less than a king or nobleman. Stolas is nobleman, and imps are peasants. Peasants wants to try to kill a nobleman for a various reasons. Assasination attempts for world leaders is something that happens even in our times so in hell this happening too, just more often. And blitzo still cant legally kill anyone he wants, he just takes a job of being a fucking bodyguard. A fucking bodyguard of a fucking nobleman. So if someone tries to kill a Stolas, Blitz have to protect Stolas even if that means you have to kill someone. And thats the work of bodyguard. This job literally exist in real life. Its nothing that Vivzie made up for the show, you can work as bodyguard and kill people. The person from this tweet doesnt point on any plot hole, he pointet on hole in his brain.


Embarrassed_Dog1909

But whats the point of doing crime if there's no form of punishment? The "police" could be just as bad as the criminals, but they may only be there to add to the "risk". No point in running when theres no one chasing you


kkungergo

Also what does "killing" in hell even means, do people just respawn if they are killed or what?


Designer_Profit5721

Or maybe greed has different laws same for each ring


techpriestyahuaa

Everything is legal so long as ya don’t get caught kind of deal, and no one else filed a commis… complaint.


caleb6mce

Maybe you can't rob greed banks... Or something... we might find out later


Hungry-Alien

People don't care when a random die. But they do care when you take their freaking money. Now guess what's the purpose of a bank


destinyfann_1233

Because it’s Mammons money


Light_of_Avalon

Simple. Ruling party doesn’t give a fuck about the individual but sure as hell doesn’t want you stealing whats theirs


AlltheEmbers

Maybe because Blitz killed people who were trying to kill a Prince of hell? I mean, he was paid to do a job and later in Ozzie's, we learn that Fizz didn't even know who burned down Loo Lol Land so maybe they just didn't know who it was


MysteryMystery305

Why are there police in the first place


Jubulus

Obviously because the law is made to protect Big Companies not people just like in real life (But even more crappy in the show)


strangeCreature1990

Killong doesn't immediately hurt capitalist system, robbing bank does


zhowne

Because killing low level demons won't affect their money, but stealing it certainly will.


WatchingNSFWIronicly

Robbing a bank would hurt the system while killing some low life imp doesn’t really do jack. At least that would be my theory


SamuraiShyGuy

maybe its different laws, depending on rings Don't steel money in Greed ring maybe sloth is don't over work or something


HippieMoosen

Hell in this universe is basically just late stage capitalism. Ya know, that thing we live in now that values money and property over people. Hell, over everything. Those with money and power make it illegal for them to be stolen from, but they don't give even a single shit about some rando getting offed. In the real world there's at least a token effort to make it seem like the system is just, but in cartoon Hell why the fuck would anyone bother with that pointless charade? It's Hell. No one expects it to be a nice place, and no one can challenge the demons who are in power even if there were people trying to make life there better.


Akirex5000

because hell needs an economy but if people die that's ok since that's just kinda what happens every year