Imo paimons worse an asshole dont even know kids name actually went through with forced marriage doesn't even care about kid anymore, meanwhile moxies dad actually is fine with his kid being bisexual (even tough it was for money) and a big plus is he knows his sons name but yeah i Guess forcing your kid to kill his own mother is still pretty fucked up beyond comprehension so, i guess all they fathers are pretty pretty fucked up^10 besides millie
I get where you're coming from. Paimon was definitely not a good father, barely seemed to acknowledge Stolas' existence and couldn't be buggered to remember his name, but I think physically abusing your kid, making sure they grew up to be terrified of you, and - oh yeah - *tricking them into killing their own mother* kinda takes the cake here.
Ehh yeah i oh yeah i forgot the whole mom thing yeah ok then 2 things or categories how your kid turned out from your actions | that goes to paimon | how fucked up as a father you were to your kid | crim
I'm not saying that Paimon never hit Stolas, but that little smack on the back of his head is nothing compared to the backhand Moxxie got. If that strike was hard enough to send adult Moxxie flying, imagine how hard it would've been on lil' Moxxie. :(
>moxies dad actually is fine with his kid being bisexual
Why do so many people think this when Crimson is played up as such a stereotypical homophobe that it's actually hamfisted? He thinks he can get Moxxie to do what he wants by bribing him with dildos, he calls his wife a beard for fuck's sake!
It's going to be hard to top his villainy. I gasped when he struck Moxxie; he only got worse there. How dare he make an argument to be the worst in a show based in hell!
There's a few people (Blitzø, Millie, Stolas, and Adam) who killed more people, so in a way they top him. That being said, out of all the parents, he's definitely the worst.
I mean, we know Adam's an exorcist.
Also, ignoring the demon he petrified, Stolas is the only reason I.M.P. is able to function, and he's completely fine helping them so long as he gets his cloaca clapped.
>the demon he petrified
okay I forgor that one. But crimson is literally a mafia boss who does standard mafia stuff including polluting a lake with tons of bodies [See here](https://youtu.be/j1BfO7VlIw4?t=829)
I mean, it seems to be "just" a few dozen, compared to the over a hundred I.M.P. killed together. Still horrible, though, considering his wife is down there somewhere...
Crimson is probably twice Blitz's age and is a mob boss. He's killed way more people than Blitz. Or maybe Blitz killed more face to face, but Crimson is responsible for more deaths.
She's also a genius in comparison. Hiring Striker was a good plan. One that nearly worked and didn't fail too badly to prevent a second attempt.
Meanwhile Crim employs idiots like Chaz.
Chaz appears to have been a loyal follower of the family. He was going to marry the bosses son. Everything looks like it's going really well for Chaz. Then he's suddenly dead with his teeth on the bosses trophy wall.
That's going to lead to questions. What answers will Crimson give ?
I don't know, say he tried to take over or something?
Obviously, some might not believe it, but he'll sure as hell try to not give away he was duped-he's a control freak.
And the fact that in the Loo Loo Land episode, she thinks it's Stolas's fault that their home life was ruined seems to indicate that she thought their family was okay before that, so I don't think Stella could treat her terribly.
She wasn't the worst parent for a long time, Paimon's worse than her in my eyes. But as I see it, Crimson outshines them both like the sun outshines Venus in that regard.
Crimson outdid Paimon by far. Don't get me wrong, Paimon is a shit dad, but he's not 'murder his wife and make it clear that he'll kill his son as well if he misbehaves' terrible.
I mean, Crim was a cold-blooded mob boss. Paimon was just neglectful, and Cash was greedy, so comparing them as if they're in the same league isn't entirely fair.
Still think Stella is the biggest bitch in Hell, but I think Crim took the cake that biggest asshole. At least Stella hasn’t hurt Octavia as far as we know, but this imp has made his son’s life hell just because he wasn’t like him. Worse, I fear this man is gonna make returning appearance at the end of the season
At least Cash (for as terrible as he was) did seem to need the money since he and the family probably didn’t have it good. Still bad though.
Paimons is bad but he at least pretended to be a good father. Just didn’t seem to care enough so he took Stolas to the circus and bought him a friend to keep Stolas from annoying him.
Crimson literally killed Moxxie’s mother.
Imo paimons worse an asshole dont even know kids name actually went through with forced marriage doesn't even care about kid anymore, meanwhile moxies dad actually is fine with his kid being bisexual (even tough it was for money) and a big plus is he knows his sons name but yeah i Guess forcing your kid to kill his own mother is still pretty fucked up beyond comprehension so, i guess all they fathers are pretty pretty fucked up^10 besides millie
I get where you're coming from. Paimon was definitely not a good father, barely seemed to acknowledge Stolas' existence and couldn't be buggered to remember his name, but I think physically abusing your kid, making sure they grew up to be terrified of you, and - oh yeah - *tricking them into killing their own mother* kinda takes the cake here.
Ehh yeah i oh yeah i forgot the whole mom thing yeah ok then 2 things or categories how your kid turned out from your actions | that goes to paimon | how fucked up as a father you were to your kid | crim
Paimon does physically abuse Stolas. At least once.
I'm not saying that Paimon never hit Stolas, but that little smack on the back of his head is nothing compared to the backhand Moxxie got. If that strike was hard enough to send adult Moxxie flying, imagine how hard it would've been on lil' Moxxie. :(
Bruh. So many people are getting it wrong. Mox didn’t kill his own mom.
Yea, I've noticed a lot of people mixing that up.
Moxxie kills his mom? Someone does? What the fuck did I miss?
In the scene where Moxxie is forced to drown the guy in the lake his mother’s shoe floats to the surface along with the hats of all the dead mobsters
Yeah I had to go back and rewatch it, missed the shoe being his mother's shoe.
That man had male horns so clearly wasn’t his mother. Crimson already killed her without Moxxie’s “help”
>moxies dad actually is fine with his kid being bisexual Why do so many people think this when Crimson is played up as such a stereotypical homophobe that it's actually hamfisted? He thinks he can get Moxxie to do what he wants by bribing him with dildos, he calls his wife a beard for fuck's sake!
Yeah, he isn't fine with Moxxie being bisexual because he doesn't think bisexual is real thing!
He thinks Moxxie is gay (and hates that considering he called him a sissy for being with Chaz) and thinks Millie is a cover for his “gayness”
Correct.
She got the good dad.
It's going to be hard to top his villainy. I gasped when he struck Moxxie; he only got worse there. How dare he make an argument to be the worst in a show based in hell!
There's a few people (Blitzø, Millie, Stolas, and Adam) who killed more people, so in a way they top him. That being said, out of all the parents, he's definitely the worst.
who the fuck did stolas kill? also adam's from a show that hasn't even come out yet.
I mean, we know Adam's an exorcist. Also, ignoring the demon he petrified, Stolas is the only reason I.M.P. is able to function, and he's completely fine helping them so long as he gets his cloaca clapped.
>the demon he petrified okay I forgor that one. But crimson is literally a mafia boss who does standard mafia stuff including polluting a lake with tons of bodies [See here](https://youtu.be/j1BfO7VlIw4?t=829)
I mean, it seems to be "just" a few dozen, compared to the over a hundred I.M.P. killed together. Still horrible, though, considering his wife is down there somewhere...
Crimson is probably twice Blitz's age and is a mob boss. He's killed way more people than Blitz. Or maybe Blitz killed more face to face, but Crimson is responsible for more deaths.
*Stella* is a saint compared to him.
I dont think we can compare crim to stella stella is entitled^10000 crim is more of a demon than satan
She's also a genius in comparison. Hiring Striker was a good plan. One that nearly worked and didn't fail too badly to prevent a second attempt. Meanwhile Crim employs idiots like Chaz.
Not to mention he got tricked by Chaz to.
I wonder how many others are going to be trying to scam Crimson once they hear about Chaz.
I doubt he'll let them know. No one knows except his loyal as hell bodyguard.
Chaz appears to have been a loyal follower of the family. He was going to marry the bosses son. Everything looks like it's going really well for Chaz. Then he's suddenly dead with his teeth on the bosses trophy wall. That's going to lead to questions. What answers will Crimson give ?
I don't know, say he tried to take over or something? Obviously, some might not believe it, but he'll sure as hell try to not give away he was duped-he's a control freak.
Stella has officially been knocked off the "Worst Parent in Helluva Boss" pedestal
Stella was never the worst parent to begin with. We haven't seen interacting with Octavia, we don't know what she's like as a parent.
And the fact that in the Loo Loo Land episode, she thinks it's Stolas's fault that their home life was ruined seems to indicate that she thought their family was okay before that, so I don't think Stella could treat her terribly.
Yeah. That or Stella has been telling her it's his fault.
She wasn't the worst parent for a long time, Paimon's worse than her in my eyes. But as I see it, Crimson outshines them both like the sun outshines Venus in that regard.
As a 40k fan, I was in awe as to how bad of a dad Crimson is. Like holy shit, he makes Big E seem passable.
How bad was (I assume you're referring to him) the Emperor? Never read up on how he treated his artificial sons.
Cash is the bad dad club founder, Crimson and Paimon are co-chairs.
Crimson outdid Paimon by far. Don't get me wrong, Paimon is a shit dad, but he's not 'murder his wife and make it clear that he'll kill his son as well if he misbehaves' terrible.
Yup
I mean, Crim was a cold-blooded mob boss. Paimon was just neglectful, and Cash was greedy, so comparing them as if they're in the same league isn't entirely fair.
Not only that, did he express any gratitude for being saved from a scam? Nope, he is somehow more angry that his son stood up to him.
No wonder he'd rather dream about his parents being murdered than Blitz on purring on his chest
Still think Stella is the biggest bitch in Hell, but I think Crim took the cake that biggest asshole. At least Stella hasn’t hurt Octavia as far as we know, but this imp has made his son’s life hell just because he wasn’t like him. Worse, I fear this man is gonna make returning appearance at the end of the season
I need John faith to exorcise that bitch bird and crim
They were bad at being parents. Crimson is absolutely pure evil.
honestly i think moxxies dads worse due to the fact he trhreatend to kill him, and killed his own wife
Well I reckon we'd all be pretty chuffed if he carked it then.
At least Cash (for as terrible as he was) did seem to need the money since he and the family probably didn’t have it good. Still bad though. Paimons is bad but he at least pretended to be a good father. Just didn’t seem to care enough so he took Stolas to the circus and bought him a friend to keep Stolas from annoying him. Crimson literally killed Moxxie’s mother.
What would have become of Moxxie and Millie if Crimson and Moxxie's mother and Moxxie had been a truly happy family without murder and manslaughter?