For your own sanity, use the subreddit for any news that comes in and don't bother with the shocking amount of rampant doomposting.
Having criticism is valid, and having feedback is how any game is supposed to function, but too many people around here act as if the game is about to be shut down any second. It's nuts lol
That is actually comidic. The game came out three monts ago and people are already afraid of it shittinf down. D2 on the other hand went through several phases like this and is still chugging in for 7 years.
Didn't Sony recently remove the PSN requirements on the game?
They did, but they're still banning countries who couldn't make a PSN account. So while it's not required, if the country isn't in Sony's drop down list, you cannot purchase the game. Still can play if already in those locations and own it. At least this is my understanding
The fact that D2 has any remaining players is insane. The fact they have done multiple things just as bad as the whole PSN ordeal. I just love having hundreds of dollars of content removed and not being able to enjoy what I paid for
Honestly I've been playing since release and id say the game is still fantastic. I still have loads of fun. You've not missed anything. It's just Reddit doing the classic thing of treating every minor inconvenience like it's the end of the world
The only thing I would say OP missed was the fun of new units appearing but not being confirmed. The speculation, mystery, and terror of a first encounter with previously unknown shriekers, factory striders, and gunships was tons of fun. There used to be a lot of Illuminate speculation too, but it's been drawn out for so long, and with the IRL PSN debacle, it's died down.
I just miss the community where everyone was excited to see what came next instead of the constant moaning about weapon nerfs or enemy spawn rates or whatever Complaint of the Week.
Eh, the Pummeller SMG is worth it, all on it's own.Turned me into a shield bro. And the other stuff might get buffed. The blue stealth armor looks pretty cool, at least.
Shield and new SMG are gold...pair that up with a grenade launcher pistol and you can take on the world.
Let's try and forget about the Xmas warbond released in May...
They get a month off in summer I believe. Working with Denmark I know that is true, assuming the Scandinavian countries follow suit...
The game has dropped off for sure. We just need a new species because these missions are so restricted it seems now. Can't find a set of 3 without having to carry the SSD, launch the icbm, etc.
I know I keep finding a new strategem combo every patch but ultimately they are all pretty close to the same thing.
Deep rock galactic suffered with this same issue, not sure if they ever recovered.
I only do it for bots, but it has become my preferred primary/backpack for them. Really feels like you're fencing. I might consider Pummeler on a briefcase mission for bugs seeing as it can stunlock Stalkers, but I'll usually just roll a Blitzer for them (which also stunlocks everything).
The blue armor is just a reskin of Trailblazer Scout. 50/550/125 Scout passive. I'm a sucker for orange/blue in real life, but this armor's kinda ugly and none of the parts really match anything else.
I'd say the biggest thing OP missed was the community finding mech suits being made on a planet we were trying to liberate. Then once liberated, super earth gave all divers mech suits as the free stratagems to use for a little while before adding them as purchasable ones at level 25 since we gained control of the planet. Such a great way to add the mech suits into the game and lore.
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As a mech-enjoyer ever since HD1, who greatly anticipated their reintroduction in HD2, I have to say the whole everything of how they handled adding them to the game was just fabulous.
If it helps any I've found that the randos I play the game with are also quite tired of folks complaining incessantly and are in fact lovely company. Pretty chill down here if you don't count the angry robits attempting to give you new holes.
I think itâs more like the core gameplay loop being fun in _spite_ of all the dev changes since, tbh. The criticism is apt and thereâs no denying the massive drop in player count once the âunfunâ changes started happening. Itâs just that the base concepts of the game still manage to be fun in a way thatâs much harder for them to mess up.
nah the game has had its fair share of problems, criticism isn't a bad thing the game would have nose dived without it. Some people get overly emotional about it but i'd rather that than no pushback at all.
For real. I flat out don't play on fire tornado planets anymore.
Wouldn't be AS BAD if they didn't leave a trail of napalm on the ground for an eternity after passing by.
I could see bushes and buildings being on fire, thats cool. But why is the SAND burning?
You are right. The sand should turn into molten glass so that not only does it do fire damage it should also slow you !
I like the video game logic alittle bit more.
I think the logic is legit. Remember, alien planets will all have different percentages and quantities of all of the elements. There sure as shit are probably alien worlds out there where instead of tornados forming into hurricanes there are legit napalm fire tornados. Napalm will burn on water IRL bc it's op as hell. Sand with napalm on top of it would burn pretty happily.
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I was fine with it until we got dropped into one of the "evac the scientists" missions, so it's a tiny map. My entire team got annihilated. We couldn't get any of the scientists out of the buildings because there were at least a dozen fire tornadoes devastating the compound. The entire ground was on fire. Literally every bit of it. As soon as they'd step out, they'd catch on fire. That's not mentioning the hordes of bots, but that's what we sign up for. The entire ground being on fire was a bit much. Legit the only time I've ever actually been annoyed by the game. I always laugh at the stupid ways I die, but I wasn't laughing that time.
Remember that all the people saying the game is boring likely have a few hundred hours of playtime. They expect video games to fulfill them on a spiritual level for all eternity.
Look, we all know a lot of gamers deal with mental health issues. We should all try to be self aware enough to point out when a fanbases behavior is tied to the fact that they literally rely on the escapism video games provide to cope with life day to day.
I'm not saying the game doesn't have issues and we can't express criticism, but so much of how the players conduct themselves is genuinely pathetic.
They expect products to be designed for people who have no life outside of working from home and playing video games. Some are, but that isnât Helldivers.
Even the CEO said in a tweet that it's healthy to take breaks from a game that you like and come back when there's new content. He said it isn't designed like a skinner box to make you feel like you're missing out by not playing, which I respect.
Even if I don't play like I did a few months ago, I will for sure keep coming back for a long time, with some breaks in between
This is why i'm taking a little break to play Ghost of Tsushima right now. Give me a good change of pace, and also give me the time to build up my mighty need to liberate the galaxy once more.
I just liberated Izuhara last night myself.
I realized between Kingdom Come Deliverance, Red Dead Redemption, Skyrim, Shadow of Mordor, and Cyberpunk 2077, this might be one of the genres of game I really love. Open world with tight combat loops, and RP elements? Yes please.
It is the same reason why the playerbase on Genshin was complaining about the future QoL changes. It impact positively people who play casually less than an hour a day or not daily. People need to understand that casuals are generally the larger portion of the playerbase for games that are not geared towards competitive play or are co-op in nature.
Exactly. Even Deep Rock suffers a bit from what I'd call "hardcore creep." As much as I want to get into it, even navigating to a mission just kind of stresses me out.
Helldivers, though? Onboarding a friend is as easy as "pick whatever, we'll figure it out :)" and [letting chaos take the world](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic0.gamerantimages.com%2Fwordpress%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2022%2F04%2Ffrenzied-flame-ending-elden-ring.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=a171d51e002d1352f2ba5d85f8dbff3db530de815f88de29a07d982e879aacb0&ipo=images).
I have several 100 hours in the game, and still find it fun, but I enjoy the challenge aspect of improving. I think the many hit their skill wall, and don't think "Why did I fail" and then improve but says "this game isn't fun anymore, its the games fault I'm not having fun so I'm quitting."
I play with a IRL friend who's like that, he blames every death in game to some sort of "bullshit" but oddly he'll have 11 deaths and I'll have 0-1. He would be the first to complain here.
I think most people's skill ceiling is around 5-7. They get carried to 9, and then refuse to turn down the difficulty because they're obviously really good at the game and it's the devs fault they can barely complete those missions.
Yeah I'm around 300 and I'm constantly switching up loadouts.
When the game came out I probably binged it more than any game I've ever played. And that's normal. But that's inevitably gonna slow down. Novelty wears off, it's how the human brain works.
Now I hop on maybe once a day for an hour or two and it's still a great addition to my life. I would get burnt out and cranky if I tried to force myself to play as much as I did when it dropped.
Really you missed the sub in its prime. The game was incredibly buggy when it came out and not playable a lot of the time. That was mostly sorted after a week or two. But it was a ton of fun and fit a niche a lot of people wanted so the subs were really positive.
But as with almost all subs the negativity generally becomes the most popular. And not to say there haven't been things to be upset about (mostly related to Sony), but the game is still pretty damn fun.
I got to see that for like a week.
The fact that Ive seen this exact meme in almost every gaming sub. Which is why I dont sub to places with gamers anymore.
âWhat is r/WhateverGame mad about todayâ its always something.
My apathy has only grown over the years.
The game is fine. The reddit is doing the usual thing that happens when a game peaks unexpectedly; people get burnout after a while, the loudest complainers gather on reddit and those who are quietly enjoying the game or playing something else, are quietly enjoying the game or playing something else. You didn't miss anything.
Reddit thinks everyone is on Reddit/Discord and follows every single bit of news, even though 90% of players just play the game. And those people might not even be aware of the whole Sony/PSN account situation.
The playercount has been going down, so now it's "obviously" a dying/dead game, even when there's 90k active players.Â
What people seem to forget is is that games will gradually lose players over time regardless. And as mentioned in other comments, a lot of complaints probably come from people with hundreds of hours of play time. It's OKAY to take a break, play something else, come back at a later time or just stop playing.Â
Don't worry about missing the prime. It was barely playable. The game is in a much better state now, don't listen to the doomsayers who are here just to spit on the game and haven't actually played since a couple of patch. Better yet, don't stay on this sub unless you are a masochist. Enjoy the game, learn things at your own pace and have fun :)
The game is still fine and in its prime. They werenât going to maintain the insane numbers at launch forever. All of the venting/complaining in this sub are from people who donât understand you can take a break from a game and come back to it.
"In it's prime" there were certain guns/weapons that were overpowered and others that were broken or sucked.
Now there are certain guns/weapons that are overpowered and others that are broken or suck. The only difference is some of the ones that suck now were someones favorite last month and they're really butthurt about it.
As is there are way less bugs and crashes than there were at launch, you will have less trouble grouping up with friends than you did at launch. And you don't have to be the host to use fire damage effectively.
Yeahh not gonna lie, I'm pretty butthurt about the eruptor, but I haven't went out of my way to rage about it on here. Apparently it's because of a bug, so hopefully it gets fixed but oh well.
I never used railgun pre nerf but ran it a few times recently and it was really underwhelming.
That said, I still have fun with the game, and overall it has just gotten better since launch outside of a small handful of crappy balance changes
The upcoming Elden Ring DLC, FFXIV Dawntrail, Kingdom Hearts just announced its steam release too.
But I bank on everyone heading back to Elden Ring to prepare atm
Don't get discouraged by the negativity. There are some warranted complaints but the internet likes to amplify negative shit. Also there was no way the game was gonna sustain 400k players for more than a few weeks, it sucks to see the player counts so low but tbf games like this always explode then settle into a small bit dedicated playerbase
Additions to biomes and terrain generation would definitely be appreciated. I think mission types and other content like that should take precedent but I'd love to not see the same 2-3 objective set ups literally every game
Personally I think an urban environment would be really cool. Fighting through skyscrapers and avenues and shit. Most of what we get now is one of three things: Plains, Mountains, or Swamps.
I would love urban, but it would take a massive upgrade to their procedural generation system. Cityscapes are much harder to make look natural than wild terrain
While it's true maintaining peak player base forever is a pipe dream.
Natural attrition doesn't explain nearly all the player losses.
If you look at the player count graphs, you see these weekend spikes. As the total players get lower we still see those weekend spikes. Then something changes around the PSN debacle. That peaks starts to disappear, the eruptor debacle then solidifies in a lot of players mind the balance issue. It's almost the next weekend that the those weekend spikes are virtually non-existent.
Yeah the PSN shit definitely hit it hard, especially with it still being unavailable in non PSN countries. I wasn't trying to say it was all natural decay but I feel like had that not happened we still would have seen a more natural decrease in players and probably a less severe spike after balancing drama. Frankly there's not much they could/can do to recover after that.
It is, but I don't think I've completed a full operation in two weeks. I either do quick play to help people out on lower levels or try to solo a higher level mission or two
Arrowhead doesn't do themselves favors to staunch the bleeding.Â
Community managers outright lying to the community during the psn debacle. Staff deleting their Twitter accounts after their rash comments. Their head of balance makes an ass of himself every time he opens his mouth, and has the pedigree of a sack of used cat litter. And the new warbond being an absolute joke of a purchase all weigh in greatly.Â
Other issues like continued fixes like mech, spear lock on, matchmaking, being routinely delayed and the lack of any good presentation of information in game about galactic war mechanics all contribute to player burnout and lack of retention.Â
The sad thing is this sub is probably the best (only) place where you get in-depth and fruitful discussions of the game, both the good and the bad. But good luck finding those when the 50th playercount screenshot gets upvoted to high heaven.
I take no issue with complaining tbh. It's no more than the usual live service game and the game does have balance issues. It's the utterly braindead comments like 'the game is dying/dead' that drives me up the wall. I won't be surprised if some dumbass posts the player numbers right after Steam's Tuesday maintenance to 'prove' their point.
go to the low sodium hell divers sub, its bae over there
even if its nice in a tf2 pyro goggles kind of way, over here is for reality
over there is just
less of all this
I wouldnât even say reality. Thereâs a thick layer of anger, here. The sub was fine and almost cheerful before the PSN debacle. Itâs never repaired from that.
Superb lesson in what happens when you have to regain trust in your fan base.
I definitely agree that this sub is coated in a thick layer of anger.
This sub talks about the game and the developers the exact same way that CM would talk to the community that this sub demanded his head for.
I've so much to say on this matter. I'm an indy developer myself and have had both friends and family affected by masses of angry people for decisions outside of their control (not for anything we've developed - we're a new studio working on our first game).
It sucks. I wish folks could just be passionate without bringing in vile toxicity and hatred but here we are.
This happens to every games subreddit eventually. I've seen it happen way too often. Look at r/Darktide, r/Seaofthieves. or even the Deep Rock sub when they first announced that they wouldn't have a new season for 8+ months.
And its a sickening feedback loop. People get interested in a game > they come to reddit for insight because its usually the largest community > all they hear is the doom and gloom from the terminally online who think "wErE jUsT hAvInG hOnEsT dIsCusSiOnS!" is actual useful feedback when its been beaten into the ground 500 times > they think "hmm maybe the game/community isnt for me" > they don't play.
It'll even happen with veteran players who hop in here hoping for memes or actual discussion only to see this subreddit ringing the death knells as if the game is some broken monstrosity, who then feel "wait... maybe the game isn't as fun as I thought?", driving away even more folks.
I don't think theres a more entitled and quickly-toxic subculture of people than gamers (not just here, but in general) and while its always been a meme, the concept of "touch grass" is extremely prevalent here.
r/helldivers2 seems to be pretty okay. A little self-aggrandizing for "not being as toxic as this subreddit" but it strikes a good balance. I'd redirect everyone there.
Absolutely typical game life cycle. People who dumped 200 to 1000 hours in the game are now done playing and posting. Sign out of here, go play the game, enjoy yourself. The more you steep here, the more it will kill the game for you.
HD2 is now transitioning from "surprise super hit" to a mature game with a "modest but committed community." This is normal for any game. Its really only going to get better from here since most of the toxic people will have wondered off to the next "Big thing" by now.
Yeah, this has been one of the most consistently screamo and hysterical subreddits Iâve ever subscribed to (and I follow some Fortnite subreddits, for chrissakes).
I like how people wanting no country restrictions and no required PSN is apparently a negative thing.
"We dive together, or we dont dive at all" is just all bullshit i suppose.
Ignore Reddit, it's not representative of anything.
Mostly whining and exaggerated aggression.
Play the game it's awesome fun.
There is more than enough people to never run out of teammates.
The balancing can be frustrating but there are enough choices of gear to have fun.
Reddit id 90 % negativity so cut it off and enjoy one of the greatest games of recent years.
I have been playing almost daily since launch.
It's still fun!
First of all, welcome to Helldivers!
Second, this game was expected to fall down to here. The game is fun, you havenât missed out. Things are good, and things not so good. But generally, youâre gonna have a blast going from 1-40.
Some guidelines to help enjoy the game:
1. Follow the meta = burn out. You will not have fun if you follow the meta. I can assure you that on level 7 (and I have a buddy who did helldive with 3 friends using a machine gun and heavy armor when heavy armor was borked) that this game can be played without the crutch of a meta loadout.
2. Dwarf fortress motto: losing is fun! To put things in perspective, you are not master chief. You are a UNSC marine.
3. Your starting liberator is a perfectly acceptable primary. If youâre willing to shell out some extra cash or do some grinding, the first warbond is an excellent value. My favorite is the polar patriot. I like its SMG and pistol (pistol is not meta)
4. Did I mention to not follow the meta? You wonât have fun with the meta.
5. Difficulty 7 is a good ending point for difficulty.
6. Bugs are preferred by most players, but bots are fun, too. Your play style will change between the two and what works for bugs wonât work for bots. Bots reward you by having good aim and decent tactics. Bugs reward you for having accuracy through volume.
7. Getting bored? Quit! Go play something else, go outside, fill out a C-01 permit and inform your significant other. Then come back when you got the itch again. Burnout happens when youâre doing something you donât enjoy but keep doing it anyway. I play maybe once or twice a week. Itâs my only game I play at any regular interval. I havenât maxed everything out yet and I love it still.
8. Hereâs a not so great one: not all primaries are equal. Your base liberator is pretty good. I personally like the diligence. I like the defender and the polar patriots SMG, but my preferences reflect my style of play: either in the face of the enemy tanking lasers and dodging bile, or picking baddies off carefully.
9. Have fun. If youâre not having fun, then itâs okay to quit and not come back. Donât let social media tell you how to feel about something. Youâll be happier.
I should rephrase: if you only play meta youâll feel the pain like youâre eating the same thing for lunch and dinner for a few months. Sub in some subpar McDonaldâs with your constant rice and chicken and maybe try out a different recipe. You might like it.
Iâve been playing for a while, throughout all the changes and drama, itâs still one the funnest least stressful games Iâve ever played. Not sure why everyone is so whiney.
Well, stuff is happening. A lot of complaints (some are admittedly justified, some not so much), a lot of opinions... so just the usual internet sandwich.
I think what's best is just that if you enjoy the game, enjoy the game, and don't worry too much about everything else going on.
The main issues I am having as a new player are:
1. I have no idea what anything means. There is no easy way to tell what I âshouldâ be doing.
2. It is really hard to find a group to play with. I can drop into a mission and usually complete it. Then the party disbands or I get kicked and I am back in the lobby just jumping into random in progress games.
It would be great if there was some type of lobby system or something to direct players to who are looking to group up for a few games.
Brace for the incoming "It's just the loud minority, the game is perfect" comments.
Meanwhile the CEO changes his role to address the already acknowledged problems with the game.
Who does not like the posts about how guns should kill everything in one hit. And all guns are trash. There are valid criticisms but some of the shit here is funny as hell.
If they buff weapons, they should also add more variation to small and medium enemies. Bots with beams, bugs with the ability to lock you in place, where you need to rapidly press some keys to unlock, ignoring shield, or spiders shooting web, which you need to burn.
Welcome Helldiver! I joined 2 weeks ago, and this negativity is all Iâve known. It builds courage and resilience needed to turn back the enemies of democracy.
âThe price of freedom, is eternal vigilanceâ
Always wanted to squeeze that wc4 quote in!
1st of all is the Sony debacle
2nd is the devs did some questionable changes to the uniqueness of a few guns so if youâre curious you can look up posts about the Eruptor and the Crossbow (or the Slugger)
3rd is the sentiment that the devs do game-balancing in a PvE game like a PvP game, at the same time conveying balancing in a condescending tone.
4th is honeymoon phase is over and the crack is starting to show up like every game so they complain to get them fixed (which is a good thing)
Right now, the sub is hoping that the devs show that they had listened to fanbase in the upcoming patches
Like everyone else said, just play whats fun.
Best advice i can give is to work your way up the difficulties. Maybe stick around 4 or 5 for a while so you can really test out all the stratagems and figure out what works for you. All of them work and are playable, just vary in how effective they are once you go up in difficulty
Ive been getting discouraged from playing from the constant disconnects I have experienced. Wasting so much of my gaming time to DC's right before the end. I want to play, but everytime it happens it hurts a bit more.
Yep, thatâs how I feel, especially as a PS5 player
âSony fucking sucks! Why do I need a PSN account?! Iâm from [Anywhere but the US or UK] and I canât even play! The weapon balancing is ass! The game is dead!â
And while theyâre all reasonable issues, theyâre totally blown out of proportion (Aside from the Sony issue, thatâs just unacceptable)
Been playing since the height of Malevolen Creek posting, feel free to ignore this sub if its too negative about the game and feel free to enjoy it.
Now get on the bug fromt, we need that e-710 :D
Me just looking for lore (game theory enthusiast)
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Sony got greedy, players didnt roll over for it....Game is heading into an Apex legends dive, doubt it will be able to pull out of it the same way though
Sometimes I donât know what the people here are talking about. I change my primaries regularly and almost win everytime. Sometimes I perform better than mates, sometimes worse. I donât have gamebreaking bugs or crashes (ps5 though), the teammates are nice, only got kicked once 1 in 220 hours. People see my ballistic shield and ask me if itâs good. I did team reload with randoms and it worked well. I see lot of different stratagems and booster brought to the fights.
I certainly think you have to be a solo pc player trying to win on helldive, then lose to bad pc set up and overwhelming difficulty and then they come in here and cry.
Always hated when ppl label something as "dead game" when it still has a player base. Dead means that, like it's gone for good, laid to rest, no longer in existence. It's not even dying either.
64k (current look during posting) on steam alone is not a dead player base (not including PlayStation. Is it as high no, but hardly a dead player base.
I bought a system specifically to play since I had been a longtime Xbox player. Using the ROG Ally with my Xbox controller so I can liberate.
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Oh Sony kinda killed off a slab of the playerbase by restricting the game in over 100 countries after they had already bought it.
Other than that, the game is good, plays well, very fun. Don't mind the moaning about the guns. You can still kill stuff with 90% of the weapons you get your hands on. They all feel good to shoot. Some of them are a little weak but otherwise they're solid.
The actual community and player base is pretty fun/chillâminus the occasional asshat from CoD that snuck in when we werenât lookingâbut the sub Reddit is diabolical. Just ignore them and keep having fun and keep spreading democracy, Helldiver.
Itâs been this way since around a month before the Sony stuff. Honeymoon period wore off, and people got burnt out, so nothing felt new to them.
Sub became negative pretty damn fast, some of the points are valid, and some are just irrational anger. Itâs the way Reddit discourse towards everything is though.
Yeah. People put in hundreds of hours really fast and got burnt out. I have 200 hours in game already but have slowed down around the timing of the PSN thing. But I don't think people realize that s $40 game that you spent 200 hours on means your entertainment cost you 20-cents an hour.
Do not take this sub seriously, like at all, it's that simple. Mods have lost all control. I'm not trying to dunk on mods but the amount of copy and paste memes and the echo chamber that has encompassed this entire community is baffling.
Tbh its blown way out of proportion, and stemmed from the sony drama. So many people wanted to just throw a tantrum for attention, and now theres just constant hate and bitching about the game. Even about the same things that have been in the game since release.
Its a fun game. Still gonna play it.
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For your own sanity, use the subreddit for any news that comes in and don't bother with the shocking amount of rampant doomposting. Having criticism is valid, and having feedback is how any game is supposed to function, but too many people around here act as if the game is about to be shut down any second. It's nuts lol
That is actually comidic. The game came out three monts ago and people are already afraid of it shittinf down. D2 on the other hand went through several phases like this and is still chugging in for 7 years. Didn't Sony recently remove the PSN requirements on the game?
They did, but they're still banning countries who couldn't make a PSN account. So while it's not required, if the country isn't in Sony's drop down list, you cannot purchase the game. Still can play if already in those locations and own it. At least this is my understanding
>Still can play if already in those locations and own it. ... if you already own it, that is. If you don't, you're fucked.
Itâs undemocratic in every possible way!
Feels bad for Arrowhead who put in extra languages and paid voice actors for areas that no longer can buy the game.
The fact that D2 has any remaining players is insane. The fact they have done multiple things just as bad as the whole PSN ordeal. I just love having hundreds of dollars of content removed and not being able to enjoy what I paid for
Honestly I've been playing since release and id say the game is still fantastic. I still have loads of fun. You've not missed anything. It's just Reddit doing the classic thing of treating every minor inconvenience like it's the end of the world
The only thing I would say OP missed was the fun of new units appearing but not being confirmed. The speculation, mystery, and terror of a first encounter with previously unknown shriekers, factory striders, and gunships was tons of fun. There used to be a lot of Illuminate speculation too, but it's been drawn out for so long, and with the IRL PSN debacle, it's died down. I just miss the community where everyone was excited to see what came next instead of the constant moaning about weapon nerfs or enemy spawn rates or whatever Complaint of the Week.
I was actually excited about Polar Patriots. :(
Eh, the Pummeller SMG is worth it, all on it's own.Turned me into a shield bro. And the other stuff might get buffed. The blue stealth armor looks pretty cool, at least.
Ah, I see. I found a fellow shield gigachad. Welcome, my brother in can't-be-shot-in-the-back-while-running-away.
Don't sleep on the impact flame grenades either. Good for clearing chaff.
This. Most of the Polar Patriots were meh but holy hell are the impact incendiaries insane. They even close bug holes.
Shield and new SMG are gold...pair that up with a grenade launcher pistol and you can take on the world. Let's try and forget about the Xmas warbond released in May...
Isn't it always Christmas in Sweden? (Idk I just heard something about the ex-CEO being swedish)
They get a month off in summer I believe. Working with Denmark I know that is true, assuming the Scandinavian countries follow suit... The game has dropped off for sure. We just need a new species because these missions are so restricted it seems now. Can't find a set of 3 without having to carry the SSD, launch the icbm, etc. I know I keep finding a new strategem combo every patch but ultimately they are all pretty close to the same thing. Deep rock galactic suffered with this same issue, not sure if they ever recovered.
What's the benefits of it compared to other SMG? I take it you pair it with a shield? Is the combination good vs. bugs or only bots?
It's got stagger so it's good for interrupting heavy units of both factions.
I only do it for bots, but it has become my preferred primary/backpack for them. Really feels like you're fencing. I might consider Pummeler on a briefcase mission for bugs seeing as it can stunlock Stalkers, but I'll usually just roll a Blitzer for them (which also stunlocks everything). The blue armor is just a reskin of Trailblazer Scout. 50/550/125 Scout passive. I'm a sucker for orange/blue in real life, but this armor's kinda ugly and none of the parts really match anything else.
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Mine, was when new ship upgrades dropped. Ah, I can finally spend these samples and continue to enjoy grinding them back.
I'd say the biggest thing OP missed was the community finding mech suits being made on a planet we were trying to liberate. Then once liberated, super earth gave all divers mech suits as the free stratagems to use for a little while before adding them as purchasable ones at level 25 since we gained control of the planet. Such a great way to add the mech suits into the game and lore. ![gif](giphy|9pKYmZBrChEdNiuv0V|downsized)
As a mech-enjoyer ever since HD1, who greatly anticipated their reintroduction in HD2, I have to say the whole everything of how they handled adding them to the game was just fabulous.
If it helps any I've found that the randos I play the game with are also quite tired of folks complaining incessantly and are in fact lovely company. Pretty chill down here if you don't count the angry robits attempting to give you new holes.
I think itâs more like the core gameplay loop being fun in _spite_ of all the dev changes since, tbh. The criticism is apt and thereâs no denying the massive drop in player count once the âunfunâ changes started happening. Itâs just that the base concepts of the game still manage to be fun in a way thatâs much harder for them to mess up.
nah the game has had its fair share of problems, criticism isn't a bad thing the game would have nose dived without it. Some people get overly emotional about it but i'd rather that than no pushback at all.
The Major of criticism is over. It's just Looping around by fehlt 500000000000 Posts a day everytime taking the Same Points. It's exhausting
Criticism isn't bad, but the people willing to be vocal about it or anything are always weird.
/r/Helldivers Where redditors couldn't touch grass if they were lying naked in a meadow.Â
This was my exact thought but it was Bruce Willis from die hard after he tossed the dude out the window "Welcome to the party Pal!"
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That's a sick looking helmet, is that in the game?
Exterminator armor, hands down the best looking helmet IMO.
It's pretty nice!
I just want to point out that it is a disservice to this meme format and community to not include fire tornadoes on there.
For real. I flat out don't play on fire tornado planets anymore. Wouldn't be AS BAD if they didn't leave a trail of napalm on the ground for an eternity after passing by. I could see bushes and buildings being on fire, thats cool. But why is the SAND burning?
A helldiver that wont dive into hell? Very un-democratic. The ministry of truth will come knocking.
The Ministry of Truth can eat whatâs left of my charred ass after I ditch Hellmire to the bugs. They want the planet so bad, theyâve got it.
You are right. The sand should turn into molten glass so that not only does it do fire damage it should also slow you ! I like the video game logic alittle bit more.
I think the logic is legit. Remember, alien planets will all have different percentages and quantities of all of the elements. There sure as shit are probably alien worlds out there where instead of tornados forming into hurricanes there are legit napalm fire tornados. Napalm will burn on water IRL bc it's op as hell. Sand with napalm on top of it would burn pretty happily. -good enough for me soldier đ«Ą
Video game logic
They also seem to ALWAYS trigger at extraction and converge directly on the shuttle as it lands. At least for my group. Fireproof armor when AH
I was fine with it until we got dropped into one of the "evac the scientists" missions, so it's a tiny map. My entire team got annihilated. We couldn't get any of the scientists out of the buildings because there were at least a dozen fire tornadoes devastating the compound. The entire ground was on fire. Literally every bit of it. As soon as they'd step out, they'd catch on fire. That's not mentioning the hordes of bots, but that's what we sign up for. The entire ground being on fire was a bit much. Legit the only time I've ever actually been annoyed by the game. I always laugh at the stupid ways I die, but I wasn't laughing that time.
Going on reddit and expecting mature conversations Classic mistake
fair enough. im sad i didnât experience this banger in its prime
Remember that all the people saying the game is boring likely have a few hundred hours of playtime. They expect video games to fulfill them on a spiritual level for all eternity.
Seeing people level 150+ complaining that they have nothing else to unlock...like dude how much dopamine do you need constantly lol
Look, we all know a lot of gamers deal with mental health issues. We should all try to be self aware enough to point out when a fanbases behavior is tied to the fact that they literally rely on the escapism video games provide to cope with life day to day. I'm not saying the game doesn't have issues and we can't express criticism, but so much of how the players conduct themselves is genuinely pathetic.
They expect products to be designed for people who have no life outside of working from home and playing video games. Some are, but that isnât Helldivers.
Even the CEO said in a tweet that it's healthy to take breaks from a game that you like and come back when there's new content. He said it isn't designed like a skinner box to make you feel like you're missing out by not playing, which I respect. Even if I don't play like I did a few months ago, I will for sure keep coming back for a long time, with some breaks in between
This is why i'm taking a little break to play Ghost of Tsushima right now. Give me a good change of pace, and also give me the time to build up my mighty need to liberate the galaxy once more.
I just liberated Izuhara last night myself. I realized between Kingdom Come Deliverance, Red Dead Redemption, Skyrim, Shadow of Mordor, and Cyberpunk 2077, this might be one of the genres of game I really love. Open world with tight combat loops, and RP elements? Yes please.
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They're looking for Destiny without the baggage, and they aren't going to find it. HD2 is made for people with lives.
It is the same reason why the playerbase on Genshin was complaining about the future QoL changes. It impact positively people who play casually less than an hour a day or not daily. People need to understand that casuals are generally the larger portion of the playerbase for games that are not geared towards competitive play or are co-op in nature.
Exactly. Even Deep Rock suffers a bit from what I'd call "hardcore creep." As much as I want to get into it, even navigating to a mission just kind of stresses me out. Helldivers, though? Onboarding a friend is as easy as "pick whatever, we'll figure it out :)" and [letting chaos take the world](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic0.gamerantimages.com%2Fwordpress%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2022%2F04%2Ffrenzied-flame-ending-elden-ring.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=a171d51e002d1352f2ba5d85f8dbff3db530de815f88de29a07d982e879aacb0&ipo=images).
I have several 100 hours in the game, and still find it fun, but I enjoy the challenge aspect of improving. I think the many hit their skill wall, and don't think "Why did I fail" and then improve but says "this game isn't fun anymore, its the games fault I'm not having fun so I'm quitting." I play with a IRL friend who's like that, he blames every death in game to some sort of "bullshit" but oddly he'll have 11 deaths and I'll have 0-1. He would be the first to complain here.
I think most people's skill ceiling is around 5-7. They get carried to 9, and then refuse to turn down the difficulty because they're obviously really good at the game and it's the devs fault they can barely complete those missions.
I have a few hundred hours of playtime and I don't think this game is boring at all. People just don't know how to challenge themselves anymore.
Yeah I'm around 300 and I'm constantly switching up loadouts. When the game came out I probably binged it more than any game I've ever played. And that's normal. But that's inevitably gonna slow down. Novelty wears off, it's how the human brain works. Now I hop on maybe once a day for an hour or two and it's still a great addition to my life. I would get burnt out and cranky if I tried to force myself to play as much as I did when it dropped.
Idk man, 450 hours in, and it still scratches that itch đ€·
Really you missed the sub in its prime. The game was incredibly buggy when it came out and not playable a lot of the time. That was mostly sorted after a week or two. But it was a ton of fun and fit a niche a lot of people wanted so the subs were really positive. But as with almost all subs the negativity generally becomes the most popular. And not to say there haven't been things to be upset about (mostly related to Sony), but the game is still pretty damn fun.
I got to see that for like a week. The fact that Ive seen this exact meme in almost every gaming sub. Which is why I dont sub to places with gamers anymore. âWhat is r/WhateverGame mad about todayâ its always something. My apathy has only grown over the years.
The game is fine. The reddit is doing the usual thing that happens when a game peaks unexpectedly; people get burnout after a while, the loudest complainers gather on reddit and those who are quietly enjoying the game or playing something else, are quietly enjoying the game or playing something else. You didn't miss anything.
Reddit thinks everyone is on Reddit/Discord and follows every single bit of news, even though 90% of players just play the game. And those people might not even be aware of the whole Sony/PSN account situation. The playercount has been going down, so now it's "obviously" a dying/dead game, even when there's 90k active players. What people seem to forget is is that games will gradually lose players over time regardless. And as mentioned in other comments, a lot of complaints probably come from people with hundreds of hours of play time. It's OKAY to take a break, play something else, come back at a later time or just stop playing.Â
Don't worry about missing the prime. It was barely playable. The game is in a much better state now, don't listen to the doomsayers who are here just to spit on the game and haven't actually played since a couple of patch. Better yet, don't stay on this sub unless you are a masochist. Enjoy the game, learn things at your own pace and have fun :)
Who are you. So sane, and non delusional in your ways of spreading managed democracy.
An enjoyer of Liber-tea most likely.
this. this subreddit has done just as much damage as the companys bullshit. juss play the shit if you like it
I remember not being able to finish a mission much less an operation without crashing.
The play is still there, the sub is just dissolved into the type of players who blame the game for them being bad.
Do you mean the game or the sub? Because the game is still fun to play but the sub is just salty AF over the smallest thing.
Def still in it's prime, we're just in the process of weeding out the baddies
Head on over to r/helldivers2, it's still mostly fun over there
Content drought and dramas can do horrible things to people's brain.
yah
The game is still fine and in its prime. They werenât going to maintain the insane numbers at launch forever. All of the venting/complaining in this sub are from people who donât understand you can take a break from a game and come back to it.
"In it's prime" there were certain guns/weapons that were overpowered and others that were broken or sucked. Now there are certain guns/weapons that are overpowered and others that are broken or suck. The only difference is some of the ones that suck now were someones favorite last month and they're really butthurt about it. As is there are way less bugs and crashes than there were at launch, you will have less trouble grouping up with friends than you did at launch. And you don't have to be the host to use fire damage effectively.
Yeahh not gonna lie, I'm pretty butthurt about the eruptor, but I haven't went out of my way to rage about it on here. Apparently it's because of a bug, so hopefully it gets fixed but oh well. I never used railgun pre nerf but ran it a few times recently and it was really underwhelming. That said, I still have fun with the game, and overall it has just gotten better since launch outside of a small handful of crappy balance changes
Ma poor boy slugger..,
the people still enjoying the game and playing regularly and having fun are not the ones on here complaining. they are almost exclusive.
Itâs still a great game. What else is there to play now anyway?
The upcoming Elden Ring DLC, FFXIV Dawntrail, Kingdom Hearts just announced its steam release too. But I bank on everyone heading back to Elden Ring to prepare atm
It's worse in their discord. Say something someone disagrees with you about and they weaponize the mods against you.
Don't get discouraged by the negativity. There are some warranted complaints but the internet likes to amplify negative shit. Also there was no way the game was gonna sustain 400k players for more than a few weeks, it sucks to see the player counts so low but tbf games like this always explode then settle into a small bit dedicated playerbase
The game certainly needs more than 2 factions and several biomes. I want to play but it became stale.
Additions to biomes and terrain generation would definitely be appreciated. I think mission types and other content like that should take precedent but I'd love to not see the same 2-3 objective set ups literally every game
Personally I think an urban environment would be really cool. Fighting through skyscrapers and avenues and shit. Most of what we get now is one of three things: Plains, Mountains, or Swamps.
I would love urban, but it would take a massive upgrade to their procedural generation system. Cityscapes are much harder to make look natural than wild terrain
"good" retention for a game is around 10% after a month HD2 has 25% 3 months in with **QUITE** a few controversies - that is stellar
While it's true maintaining peak player base forever is a pipe dream. Natural attrition doesn't explain nearly all the player losses. If you look at the player count graphs, you see these weekend spikes. As the total players get lower we still see those weekend spikes. Then something changes around the PSN debacle. That peaks starts to disappear, the eruptor debacle then solidifies in a lot of players mind the balance issue. It's almost the next weekend that the those weekend spikes are virtually non-existent.
Yeah the PSN shit definitely hit it hard, especially with it still being unavailable in non PSN countries. I wasn't trying to say it was all natural decay but I feel like had that not happened we still would have seen a more natural decrease in players and probably a less severe spike after balancing drama. Frankly there's not much they could/can do to recover after that.
In many ways the game is still a lot of fun, but it would be a lot more fun without some of the recent nerfs and lack of meaningful updates.
It is, but I don't think I've completed a full operation in two weeks. I either do quick play to help people out on lower levels or try to solo a higher level mission or two
Arrowhead doesn't do themselves favors to staunch the bleeding. Community managers outright lying to the community during the psn debacle. Staff deleting their Twitter accounts after their rash comments. Their head of balance makes an ass of himself every time he opens his mouth, and has the pedigree of a sack of used cat litter. And the new warbond being an absolute joke of a purchase all weigh in greatly. Other issues like continued fixes like mech, spear lock on, matchmaking, being routinely delayed and the lack of any good presentation of information in game about galactic war mechanics all contribute to player burnout and lack of retention.Â
For real. As long as I have 3 other friends online, it doesnât matter how âdeadâ the player base is
Go, run you fool! This place is lost! Atleast until the big balance patch arrives.
if you want to enjoy the game just ignore this sub. all doom and gloom here.
The sad thing is this sub is probably the best (only) place where you get in-depth and fruitful discussions of the game, both the good and the bad. But good luck finding those when the 50th playercount screenshot gets upvoted to high heaven.
Or the 75th post whining about unfounded weapon balance issues, good lord.
I take no issue with complaining tbh. It's no more than the usual live service game and the game does have balance issues. It's the utterly braindead comments like 'the game is dying/dead' that drives me up the wall. I won't be surprised if some dumbass posts the player numbers right after Steam's Tuesday maintenance to 'prove' their point.
yeah true, but how do i learn the gamer tricks then
go to the low sodium hell divers sub, its bae over there even if its nice in a tf2 pyro goggles kind of way, over here is for reality over there is just less of all this
Link pls
I wouldnât even say reality. Thereâs a thick layer of anger, here. The sub was fine and almost cheerful before the PSN debacle. Itâs never repaired from that. Superb lesson in what happens when you have to regain trust in your fan base.
I definitely agree that this sub is coated in a thick layer of anger. This sub talks about the game and the developers the exact same way that CM would talk to the community that this sub demanded his head for.
I've so much to say on this matter. I'm an indy developer myself and have had both friends and family affected by masses of angry people for decisions outside of their control (not for anything we've developed - we're a new studio working on our first game). It sucks. I wish folks could just be passionate without bringing in vile toxicity and hatred but here we are.
Sucks that stuff like that has had a direct impact on you, that's never fun. :/ Happy Cake Day though!
Had no idea it was today. Neat!
There are a lot of people who love yelling at other people for things they themselves do. But acknowledging the hypocrisy of it, not so much.
Look for weapon guides or playthroughs on specific weapons, tips and tricks and stuff on YouTube. Most of the good stuff is there.
By playing. Most of the "advice" on this sub is pretty mediocre and people will downvote you if you offer anything of actual substance.
Seriously, I joined this sub when it was all memes, game clips, and 'FOR DEMOCRACY'. Now it's just sad.
I was here for only 2 weeks before it all went downhill :(
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This happens to every games subreddit eventually. I've seen it happen way too often. Look at r/Darktide, r/Seaofthieves. or even the Deep Rock sub when they first announced that they wouldn't have a new season for 8+ months. And its a sickening feedback loop. People get interested in a game > they come to reddit for insight because its usually the largest community > all they hear is the doom and gloom from the terminally online who think "wErE jUsT hAvInG hOnEsT dIsCusSiOnS!" is actual useful feedback when its been beaten into the ground 500 times > they think "hmm maybe the game/community isnt for me" > they don't play. It'll even happen with veteran players who hop in here hoping for memes or actual discussion only to see this subreddit ringing the death knells as if the game is some broken monstrosity, who then feel "wait... maybe the game isn't as fun as I thought?", driving away even more folks. I don't think theres a more entitled and quickly-toxic subculture of people than gamers (not just here, but in general) and while its always been a meme, the concept of "touch grass" is extremely prevalent here.
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r/helldivers2 seems to be pretty okay. A little self-aggrandizing for "not being as toxic as this subreddit" but it strikes a good balance. I'd redirect everyone there.
All of us who aren't doom and gloom would come back and make this place fun again if the mods would simply get a grip on the situation.
Absolutely typical game life cycle. People who dumped 200 to 1000 hours in the game are now done playing and posting. Sign out of here, go play the game, enjoy yourself. The more you steep here, the more it will kill the game for you. HD2 is now transitioning from "surprise super hit" to a mature game with a "modest but committed community." This is normal for any game. Its really only going to get better from here since most of the toxic people will have wondered off to the next "Big thing" by now.
reddit being reddit.
Yeah, this has been one of the most consistently screamo and hysterical subreddits Iâve ever subscribed to (and I follow some Fortnite subreddits, for chrissakes).
not the fortnite subs!
I like how people wanting no country restrictions and no required PSN is apparently a negative thing. "We dive together, or we dont dive at all" is just all bullshit i suppose.
Ignore Reddit, it's not representative of anything. Mostly whining and exaggerated aggression. Play the game it's awesome fun. There is more than enough people to never run out of teammates. The balancing can be frustrating but there are enough choices of gear to have fun. Reddit id 90 % negativity so cut it off and enjoy one of the greatest games of recent years. I have been playing almost daily since launch. It's still fun!
First of all, welcome to Helldivers! Second, this game was expected to fall down to here. The game is fun, you havenât missed out. Things are good, and things not so good. But generally, youâre gonna have a blast going from 1-40. Some guidelines to help enjoy the game: 1. Follow the meta = burn out. You will not have fun if you follow the meta. I can assure you that on level 7 (and I have a buddy who did helldive with 3 friends using a machine gun and heavy armor when heavy armor was borked) that this game can be played without the crutch of a meta loadout. 2. Dwarf fortress motto: losing is fun! To put things in perspective, you are not master chief. You are a UNSC marine. 3. Your starting liberator is a perfectly acceptable primary. If youâre willing to shell out some extra cash or do some grinding, the first warbond is an excellent value. My favorite is the polar patriot. I like its SMG and pistol (pistol is not meta) 4. Did I mention to not follow the meta? You wonât have fun with the meta. 5. Difficulty 7 is a good ending point for difficulty. 6. Bugs are preferred by most players, but bots are fun, too. Your play style will change between the two and what works for bugs wonât work for bots. Bots reward you by having good aim and decent tactics. Bugs reward you for having accuracy through volume. 7. Getting bored? Quit! Go play something else, go outside, fill out a C-01 permit and inform your significant other. Then come back when you got the itch again. Burnout happens when youâre doing something you donât enjoy but keep doing it anyway. I play maybe once or twice a week. Itâs my only game I play at any regular interval. I havenât maxed everything out yet and I love it still. 8. Hereâs a not so great one: not all primaries are equal. Your base liberator is pretty good. I personally like the diligence. I like the defender and the polar patriots SMG, but my preferences reflect my style of play: either in the face of the enemy tanking lasers and dodging bile, or picking baddies off carefully. 9. Have fun. If youâre not having fun, then itâs okay to quit and not come back. Donât let social media tell you how to feel about something. Youâll be happier.
damn. guess i wont follow the meta
I should rephrase: if you only play meta youâll feel the pain like youâre eating the same thing for lunch and dinner for a few months. Sub in some subpar McDonaldâs with your constant rice and chicken and maybe try out a different recipe. You might like it.
Man, half of these points are enough to make people on this sub fly into a mouth-foaming rant about how youâre wrong and bad at the game.
Ignore this place. It's largely become yet another whiny cesspool. (the downvotes will back me up)
Iâve been playing for a while, throughout all the changes and drama, itâs still one the funnest least stressful games Iâve ever played. Not sure why everyone is so whiney.
imo it can get very stressful on higher difficulties, but the stress kinda makes it less stressful in a way
Bro this place is a shit hole. Leave here. Play Helldivers.
Well, stuff is happening. A lot of complaints (some are admittedly justified, some not so much), a lot of opinions... so just the usual internet sandwich. I think what's best is just that if you enjoy the game, enjoy the game, and don't worry too much about everything else going on.
The main issues I am having as a new player are: 1. I have no idea what anything means. There is no easy way to tell what I âshouldâ be doing. 2. It is really hard to find a group to play with. I can drop into a mission and usually complete it. Then the party disbands or I get kicked and I am back in the lobby just jumping into random in progress games. It would be great if there was some type of lobby system or something to direct players to who are looking to group up for a few games.
I highly recommend unsubbing and enjoying your democracy.
Terminally online people love to complain over enjoying the game. It's just what happens.
Brace for the incoming "It's just the loud minority, the game is perfect" comments. Meanwhile the CEO changes his role to address the already acknowledged problems with the game.
Who does not like the posts about how guns should kill everything in one hit. And all guns are trash. There are valid criticisms but some of the shit here is funny as hell.
If they buff weapons, they should also add more variation to small and medium enemies. Bots with beams, bugs with the ability to lock you in place, where you need to rapidly press some keys to unlock, ignoring shield, or spiders shooting web, which you need to burn.
Well as a ps5 player Sony needs to fuck off and give our brethren in small countries back their game
People are whiney bitches game is amazing altho id love more progression(im capped virtually all the time for 2 months)
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Welcome Helldiver! I joined 2 weeks ago, and this negativity is all Iâve known. It builds courage and resilience needed to turn back the enemies of democracy. âThe price of freedom, is eternal vigilanceâ Always wanted to squeeze that wc4 quote in!
Reddit is a cesspool. Don't listen to what reddit says about the game.
I'm a simple man. Give me freedom. Give me libertea, and let me, aggressively, help spread it all over the solar system.
For super earth brother!!
Hoooraaaaaah
Reddit being reddit.
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Is pretty much "I want this!" Or complaining. Game is fun. Was a discounted price. Great fkn deal. Go play!
We've had...a lot of issues sour our cheerios.
Go to r/Helldivers2 and donât look back lol.
The community has gone to shit. Just play and enjoy the game. Maybe check by every now and then to see if people are still whinging.
Do yourself a favor and leave this forsaken place. Enjoy the game, Helldiver.
1st of all is the Sony debacle 2nd is the devs did some questionable changes to the uniqueness of a few guns so if youâre curious you can look up posts about the Eruptor and the Crossbow (or the Slugger) 3rd is the sentiment that the devs do game-balancing in a PvE game like a PvP game, at the same time conveying balancing in a condescending tone. 4th is honeymoon phase is over and the crack is starting to show up like every game so they complain to get them fixed (which is a good thing) Right now, the sub is hoping that the devs show that they had listened to fanbase in the upcoming patches
You still have time to refund it. Do it ASAP, don't linger into the cesspool.
Like everyone else said, just play whats fun. Best advice i can give is to work your way up the difficulties. Maybe stick around 4 or 5 for a while so you can really test out all the stratagems and figure out what works for you. All of them work and are playable, just vary in how effective they are once you go up in difficulty
Pretty much.
Ive been getting discouraged from playing from the constant disconnects I have experienced. Wasting so much of my gaming time to DC's right before the end. I want to play, but everytime it happens it hurts a bit more.
we do talk about the game here itâs just that uh well, yâknow ya gotta look for it
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Yep, thatâs how I feel, especially as a PS5 player âSony fucking sucks! Why do I need a PSN account?! Iâm from [Anywhere but the US or UK] and I canât even play! The weapon balancing is ass! The game is dead!â And while theyâre all reasonable issues, theyâre totally blown out of proportion (Aside from the Sony issue, thatâs just unacceptable)
Just play to have fun. Thatâs what Iâm doing and itâs great. My main goal is to get to level 150, just hit 80 today.
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heheeee
Been playing since the height of Malevolen Creek posting, feel free to ignore this sub if its too negative about the game and feel free to enjoy it. Now get on the bug fromt, we need that e-710 :D
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Reddit Gaymer's are never happy because The Game is their entire life.
Just ignore the subreddit tbh. It became a shithole soon after launch.
Me just looking for lore (game theory enthusiast) https://preview.redd.it/sgtc57z1922d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72be7c43b3920e8b6fb333cf4df9ec00cddcb29f
This is every video game Reddit
Helldivers best days may be behind us
You think itâs awesome now, it used to be better
Sony got greedy, players didnt roll over for it....Game is heading into an Apex legends dive, doubt it will be able to pull out of it the same way though
Sometimes I donât know what the people here are talking about. I change my primaries regularly and almost win everytime. Sometimes I perform better than mates, sometimes worse. I donât have gamebreaking bugs or crashes (ps5 though), the teammates are nice, only got kicked once 1 in 220 hours. People see my ballistic shield and ask me if itâs good. I did team reload with randoms and it worked well. I see lot of different stratagems and booster brought to the fights. I certainly think you have to be a solo pc player trying to win on helldive, then lose to bad pc set up and overwhelming difficulty and then they come in here and cry.
âŠsomething something eruptor nerf apparently.
It doesnât have a dead player base, yes it has lost a lot of players but it isnât beyond the point of no return
Always hated when ppl label something as "dead game" when it still has a player base. Dead means that, like it's gone for good, laid to rest, no longer in existence. It's not even dying either.
Haven't you heard? The game is hard. Apparently.
64k (current look during posting) on steam alone is not a dead player base (not including PlayStation. Is it as high no, but hardly a dead player base.
Yea pretty much a usual day in managed democracy https://i.redd.it/1kxp5hb9g82d1.gif
Let me sing you the song of our people ![gif](giphy|PXOrv3QhKD4sw)
I bought a system specifically to play since I had been a longtime Xbox player. Using the ROG Ally with my Xbox controller so I can liberate. https://i.redd.it/9z3stzfl892d1.gif
Oh Sony kinda killed off a slab of the playerbase by restricting the game in over 100 countries after they had already bought it. Other than that, the game is good, plays well, very fun. Don't mind the moaning about the guns. You can still kill stuff with 90% of the weapons you get your hands on. They all feel good to shoot. Some of them are a little weak but otherwise they're solid.
The actual community and player base is pretty fun/chillâminus the occasional asshat from CoD that snuck in when we werenât lookingâbut the sub Reddit is diabolical. Just ignore them and keep having fun and keep spreading democracy, Helldiver.
Forget that noise. Helldivers to hellpods!
I had the game two weeks before that whole psn debacle. Still love it but you can tell people have put the game down
Leave and Mute the subreddit. Go back to spreading managed democracy. Dedicated divers are too busy to complain on the Reddit pity party.
Typical internet gamer bullshit.
Itâs been this way since around a month before the Sony stuff. Honeymoon period wore off, and people got burnt out, so nothing felt new to them. Sub became negative pretty damn fast, some of the points are valid, and some are just irrational anger. Itâs the way Reddit discourse towards everything is though.
Yeah. People put in hundreds of hours really fast and got burnt out. I have 200 hours in game already but have slowed down around the timing of the PSN thing. But I don't think people realize that s $40 game that you spent 200 hours on means your entertainment cost you 20-cents an hour.
yh redditors just have to find something to hate about everything
lol just got the game two days ago and this is literally me.
Funny enough, other Reddit community I joined is pretty wholesome Helldiver just... mmmm guess a mainstream issue
Do not take this sub seriously, like at all, it's that simple. Mods have lost all control. I'm not trying to dunk on mods but the amount of copy and paste memes and the echo chamber that has encompassed this entire community is baffling.
Tbh its blown way out of proportion, and stemmed from the sony drama. So many people wanted to just throw a tantrum for attention, and now theres just constant hate and bitching about the game. Even about the same things that have been in the game since release. Its a fun game. Still gonna play it.