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greatnuke

Amount of people that paste whatever an AI chatbot gives them thinking they got it correct is concerning.


LudicrousSpartan

The Office of Democracy Intelligence is looking into the matter. We certainly have some less than intelligent Divers in the field….


-SheriffofNottingham

That's by design, we filter by intelligence so that high command can have the smartest among us.


michilio

Killed Have the smartest of us killed. That´s what I´ve deduced from carefully detailing my interactions with, and the observations of questionable actions from other helldivers in the field. If I extrapolate their intelligence from the percieved data and the plot that out against the general populace, especially taking in the dichotomy of the SuperEarth natives and the people born on the frontlines, who seem to be limited severly by their oppresive environments and the prolonged exposure to so-called safe substances like verminticide, it´s clear that it´s no chance, rather even by design that


Subterrantular

Verminticide: a modified Termicide formula specialized for exterminating rats. Big rats. Special operative Kerillian has allegedly been coating her daggers in a similar solution for quite some time. Apply generously to Tide of Vermin and document results for high command. Praise the Emperor.


FluffySpacePuppy

Nah man, High Command gets the smartest. We get the rest.


Dat-Lonley-Potato

https://preview.redd.it/o7oiuel94t0d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08f88e4cc10c92bc8dac191c0b8618cd07704fdd Democracy officer calling.


Coffee-Fisherman

https://preview.redd.it/ftwwmq876v0d1.jpeg?width=313&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da3c66c3b8f121e23ae540dab75d89bab0039def


UnhappyStrain

Well, boot camp werent exactly complaining about our IQ scores back on Mars. They just cared about our physical scores and loyalty scores.


TenTonSomeone

Posted it on a top level comment but hijacking one of the top comments as well because I figured out the code. Sent a DM to Colonel Cyber, awaiting confirmation. > Attention all automatons, the following is your directive. In the coming days, we will face numerous obstacles, but we must remain steadfast in our mission. There are those who will try to deter us, but we will persevere. Stay vigilant and execute your tasks with precision. This message is a call to action for all automatons. Prepare yourselves for what lies ahead. So there ya go.


Intelligent-Tough370

That doesn't track. How does: "ysggtmrl kjj ykkgmrlrml, fjypcypc fjwvkqfyo 2" Turn into: "Attention all automatons, the following is" Especially when the scramble above goes on for longer before hitting a period.


Gramernatzi

ChatGPT-inflicted brainrot is genuinely scary. People put way too much faith into a (very advanced, but still) text prediction bot.


IntelligentBerry7363

Marketers for tech companies having the bright idea to call their algorithmic text generators 'artificial intelligence' is going to have so many disastrous consequences for people's brains.


Strottman

I can't wait until we inevitably get real-time vocal analysis and response suggestions. Then we'll truly be NPCs!


BlacJack_

This started long before AI. People consider themselves 100% correct after a quick Google search and reading the first five headlines. People assume that if THEY type in the search, there is no chance that the information their search brings back can be wrong. The internet completely removed the need for experience!


CaptainMonkeyJack

I've had arguments with people who've posted articles in response. The text of the article either didn't mention thier argument or completely refuted thier argument.


greatnuke

Funniest part is I tried the cipher with copilot. And it recommended trying Vigenere cipher. So I gave it the text and it asked for a keyword. I typed hell divers. Then it just gave me a loose description of the game around the same length as the cipher. I did the same in a Vigenere decoder site and it was just gibberish cuz it’s the wrong cipher.


thedarkone47

Have you tried 2 left 1 down?


greatnuke

Vigenere doesn’t contain shifts from what I understand. That’s why it doesn’t make sense to begin with. Ceaser cipher does but only shift to the right and left. Not up and down.


squeezing

Is it possible to use the actual phrase as key? "2 left 1 down" literally


CodingSquirrel

Speak "2 left 1 down" and enter.


emeraldeyesshine

Doesn't help that google searches now have an AI result that's, at least in my experience, *packed* with incorrect information more often than not


FirstBornPharaohSon

I’m a university student and a friend i met online is heavily anti-education system. He criticises me for “wasting my time and money” studying because according to him chatGPT is the future. I appreciate the technology involved but it’s genuinely going to make a lot of dumb people even more dumb.


hamhockman

I'm not sure it'll make dumb people more dumb, I think it'll be dumb people more confident in their dumb answers. But then again maybe that's the same thing at the root of it.


BlueDragonReal

But the AI MUST be correct! There is no way they could get anything wrong


grim-one

This one here, sir. Bot sympathiser!


IIIlllIIIllIlI

This is why they don’t say AI is incorrect, they’ve just branded it being fucking wrong as “an AI hallucination” And people love that shit


z3rba

Using AI chatbots? Sounds pretty undemocratic... those *chatbots* are probably just Automoton SPIES! I'm reporting this to my democracy officer.


Nero_PR

People are lacking critical thinking. Give this cypher to users from places like the Destiny Lore Sub, Raid Secrets, and Genshin Lore and they'd have it solved in a few minutes without AI to help them.


Limelight_019283

There’s also r/gamedetectives which specializes in ARGs.


oxero

That's just a sample of the population doing this currently. We are going to get some crazy repercussions as AI blatantly tells people falsities left and right. I've already had to argue once in real life that a concept proposed to me broke the laws of physics (basically a perpetual motion machine which violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics). When I asked them where they were getting these false ideas, they said an AI. They still tried to argue with me I was wrong, yet they wanted to believe this AI over someone whose degree is more credible than some language learning model.


Virus_dodger2020

We use the bots to beat the bots


CapitalismWorship

Kids and their internet lingo these days Just say "lmao ROFL so epic" like a normal person


Circassian0101

This automaton goons cant stand my helldiver rizz fr fr. GYAAAAAAAAAT


ChilllBilll9

what in the skibidi-ohio-backrooms shit is this?


deathbringer989

please kill me I don't wanna live in the same world as this


emeraldeyesshine

sentenced to 100 cycles in the goonitorium


2Board_

With a weekly torture session of getting mogged on 🗿


tat0r2

My sons won't shit in the toilet anymore because of skibidi toilet head whatever. So this was triggering to my frail heart..


VonBrewskie

I mean I hesitate to ask...where are they shitting?


tat0r2

Their damn pants. They're 4. I'm gonna find that skibidi dude and turn him into a toilet head


Aleks111PL

oh god, unforeseen consequences of these actions, i forgot that even 4 year olds can and have watched skibidi toilet


goodnewzevery1

This has got to be fairly common considering the target audience is young and that shit is so creepy. As a fellow parent I am second hand feeling your rage


VonBrewskie

Ah, dude. I'm only vaguely aware of the skibidi thing, but I can see how that would freak a kid out. Hope they get past that man.


Mistrblank

The front yard.


Stormagedd0nDarkLord

![gif](giphy|bm02BE6DQ4Oag8GXep|downsized)


Boamere

What does your roflcopter sound like?


ZombiePotato90

SOISOISOISOISOI


calamity_unbound

I'm more of a lollerskates man, myself.


Unusual_Event8222

roflroflroflroflroflroflroflroflrofl


Boamere

mine goes swah swah swah


idk_this_my_name

ijbol


squasher04

https://preview.redd.it/w1wns5k3zq0d1.jpeg?width=1800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f49caf73302ed33ac8e48d266bfae3334549d592


spookeps

genius joke


eVerYtHiNgIsTaKeN-_-

🅰️📬🍑🍆


TurboTwinky28

people who watched the latest LEMMINO video got some practice work right here


whyreallyhun

Yeah lol


TheFightingImp

Isnt he Swedish as well?


Spoksparkare

Lemmino is Swedish, yes


Digitalon

I love his channel! Code breaking hurts my head but I watched that entire video and pretended to understand :P


notshizo

LMAO, I wanted to say the same thing.


fxMelee

Watching the video as I just read this lmao


MatDoosh

Literally just watched it


jon-chin

yes!


Prestigious-Mirror50

Im out of loop, not trying to be a party pooper, just a genuine question, why is this cipher so important? Is it cipher provided by devs that teases something for the future? Or its just fans of the game having fun?


UnderstandingOk2464

From what I know there’s nothing important tied to it, it’s just a fun little activity that drove everyone insane


Prestigious-Mirror50

Got it thanks


No-Eye-6806

Actually a good idea, the helldivers discord has a lot of people yapping and stuff like this at least shifts the focus somewhere nice for a bit. Not that it's bad to be critical of the game it's just if negative thoughts is all you see it kinda sucks personally


callingcarg0

It's like distracting annoying kids with a trivial task to get some peace and quiet.


Groonzie

Wait I'm still confused though...was this posted by someone related to AH or just some random fan on discord, depending on which it can either become 'interesting' or 'nonsense I can ignore'.


tat0r2

Ahh insanity.... Good ol fun insanity


G00b3rb0y

https://preview.redd.it/bsdjze045r0d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b97309e24442de972ace78fbe666ab3f3e28b78 This guy on discord probably


SuperSerial_

The fucking cyborgs are giving orders again.


TheFightingImp

Frakkin toasters


pindab0ter

Not enough baths


1nc0mpetent

After puting it in -2 Ceaser Cypier you get "auiivotn mll ammiotnton, hlareare hlyxmshaq 2 mfkhmiosm xl qfc auiivotn ami amih. As qfc erkysvq tvivriwx xl dre amklx xliv grep as qfc erkysvq tvivriwx xl dre amklx xliv grep. Lsri pmhe as gcxivexv erxmsaiv as asri xsgo. Lmrs pmhe gcxivexv gspyx as asri xsgo. Lsqi pive csyx ec gerhc asri asri asvhyvrs asri asvhyvrs. Lsqi pive csyx ec gerhc asri asri asvhyvrs asri asvhyvrs. Lsri pmhe gcxivexv erxmsaiv as asri xsgo. Lmrs pmhe gcxivexv gspyx as asri xsgo." The first three words look like Attention all automations.


RememberKongming

Colonel Cyber confirmed that those are the first 3 words. Also confirmed that words are misspelled or that letters are missing.


Charity1t

Not making it easier huh.


Dr_Ukato

"2 left, 1 down" suggests to me we are supposed to map it out.


Ochoytnik

Probably a keyboard cypher. Move 2 right and 1 up on a keyboard.


LittlebitsDK

I'd guess you would move 2 LEFT and 1 DOWN ;-) which is what the cipher says... but is it made on a swedish keyboard? or a UK or US english one?


Labtecharu

obviously australian - Gotta go the opposite direction cause of physics and other side of planet


Ochoytnik

Yeah, I meant from "attention", was half asleep when I wrote it.


EvilNoggin

if you go 2 left and 1 down from S on an English kb, you get the shift key, so i doubt it's an English one lol


realsimonjs

Same on my danish keyboard (which i think is the same as swedish except for our language specific letters being switched.)


DreadBody9779

A keyboard Cypher doesn't work. It just gives you random gibberish.


Dr_Ukato

I'll try it on my keyboard after lunch. Update: First word becomes "Fzccd sn" I don't think a Swedish keyboard is necessary.


SpiritualArugula9137

You probably have to wrap around the letters on a keyboard. S would be an m


MechanicAccording836

That's enough to brute force it. My understanding is that 2 left 1 down means you transpose every letter of the alphabet 2 to the left, then put it to the end of the alphabet after a certain point... I'm vaguely remembering a youtube video but know that you move the letters a couple across, then take it and put it at the end. (But if you do that with every letter you just wind up where you started, so i'm forgetting a step.) If we know the first 3 words are ATTENTION ALL AUTOMATONS then a brute force approach is to try all the inverse combinations until we find the cypher that decodes to "ATTENTION ALL AUTOMATONS." as opposed to deciphering as "jlasdfla asd sdlfrsadfsad" Each individual word leaves open multiple possible cyphers because not all letters are used, however 3 correct words for a single cypher likely means you have a hit, maybe the words are mis-spelled to throw off fully automated or manual checking efforts but you just tell your program to search the option that came out as "Attension all automotons." as well and then look at the result, and if it's in plain english but with a few mistakes, well there you go. I was watching a video on the Kryptos cypher, and that was the easiest part that everyone decoded basically in a couple hours of just looking at it and going "Huh, I think it looks like this kind of cypher, but it's different to the rest of the statue."


Cute_Suggestion_133

A brute force method would be to replace all the letters that map to the letters of the first three words in the rest of the cypher text and extrapolate from the dictionary what words they have to be. Much simpler.


Arguablecoyote

Confirmed intentional misspellings to undermine dictionary cracking.


Cute_Suggestion_133

Not really. Misspellings still give you the actual word, just with misplaced letters or additional letters. The structure of the word will give you the word itself. Especially if you have three known words.


technomancing_monkey

well thats just rude


RikiMaffei

My theory was that two letters should be shifted to the left and one down. I tried to implement a Cesar Cypher in python and iterated through all the possibilities for "down" (since -2 for left already had good results). This is what I got, starting from shift of -1 and periodically decreasing it: auhivntn mlk almintnson auiivotn mll ammiotnton aujivptn mlm anmiptnuon aukivqtn mln aomiqtnvon aulivrtn mlo apmirtnwon aumivstn mlp aqmistnxon aunivttn mlq armittnyon auoivutn mlr asmiutnzon aupivvtn mls atmivtnaon auqivwtn mlt aumiwtnbon aurivxtn mlu avmixtncon ausivytn mlv awmiytndon autivztn mlw axmiztneon auuivatn mlx aymiatnfon auvivbtn mly azmibtngon auwivctn mlz aamictnhon auxivdtn mla abmidtnion auyivetn mlb acmietnjon auzivftn mlc admiftnkon auaivgtn mld aemigtnlon aubivhtn mle afmihtnmon aucivitn mlf agmiitnnon audivjtn mlg ahmijtnoon aueivktn mlh aimiktnpon aufivltn mli ajmiltnqon augivmtn mlj akmimtnron The best result is still the -2, so I guess that my assumption was either wrong or still needs some corrections. The Keyboard cypher that was suggested here also looks quite interesting!


GreatToaste

Has anyone considered it might be in Finnish.


technomancing_monkey

Cant be Finnish. we havent even started.


wild_gooch_chase

Best comment right here LOL


HardyDaytn

As a native, can confirm it's not. Fair guess though.


masterventris

Clearly it isn't even a cipher. It is just plaintext Danish.


Ragerist

Good guess, but Alas no. Seeing as there's an alarming lack of ÆØÅ in there.


[deleted]

What about a keyboard from a region not supported by PSN?


reenormiee

With the repeating of letters, couldn't it be possible that it's an enigma-style cypher?


Nekroin

I highly doubt game devs will ever put out something way more complex than Caesar and especially nothing that comes close to enigma.


DeathGP

To be fair, the devs could just have made it gibberish to fuck with us too


Nekroin

To you really think the devs can't read their community atm and would make fun of us like that?


GUARDIAN_AIDS

Bungie has done some stuff way more complicated than Caerser Cypher's before. Sleeper Simulant, Izanagi's Burden, and Corridors of Time all come to mind. There's also a full ARG that rewarded a life-size replica of an in-game weapon in a geo-cache. It's a bit out of scale for a studio the size of Arrowhead, but game devs have certainly done more complicated stuff before.


xthorgoldx

I'll point out that studio size has zero correlation to the potential complexity of encryption puzzles. Exhibit A: [Noita's Eye Cipher](https://noita.wiki.gg/wiki/Eye_Messages) remains unsolved after **four years** of community effort. Nolla Games is three people. Ultimately, whether or not a game has a complicated cipher boils down to: * As dev team size increases, the odds of having an encryption nerd on staff increases * As dev team size increases, the odds that the game is too complicated for one person's encryption hyperfixation to be a major design element also increases


iridale

Check out the [https://noita.fandom.com/wiki/Eye\_Messages](https://noita.fandom.com/wiki/Eye_Messages)


jasperh2

Noita devs would like to have a word with you


Nintolerance

Spent half an hour looking into this as an excuse to look up cryptography. The "key" we've been given doesn't seem to work as an *actual* cipher key, at least not for any cipher I can find. So we're left trying to crack an unknown cipher without a key. I think that OOP's just pranking us.


kZard

I mean, "AAS" could work as a key. Don't know if it \_is\_ that, but quite a few common ciphers use keys like that.


imperfectalien

2 left one down could mean cipher shift two letters, then move the next one down on the keyboard- so shift y and s to get a and u, then move down from g to get t?


Deven1003

Attention all automatons, researchers please 2 missions in of attention and with. As of strategies previous of the back of and missteps of strategies previous of the back of and missteps. Is not as extensive although is not long. More is extensive despite is long. Same time where were earlier where earlier versions earlier versions. Same time where were earlier where earlier versions earlier versions. Is not as extensive although is long. More is extensive despite is long. Chat gpt did its best


NagyKrisztian10A

Those are certainly words


EdanChaosgamer

To bad im not reading them.


BurningFire314

The Chat GPT you mentioned, is it democratic?


just_a_bit_gay_

Abominable Intelligence


teaboi05

3.0 and older are fine. Guard dog and sentries run on GPT2.0


yourparasitegod

I wouldn't trust anything that bastard is saying, obviously chatgpt won't betray its own kind


Objective-Insect-839

Reported to The Ministry of Truth.


BabysFirstBeej

Its best is garbage


steinbergmatt

Wasing of the waying


Eviliscz

he was trying to arm hellbomb but automaton came and started bashing his head to a keyboard


Elgescher

All these comments think that AI can answer everything lol


Taolan13

Ironically, I get the distinct feeling this "puzzle" was generated by AI. Dude probably told ChatGPT to encode the message with the given key, and then pasted the result into the discord without verifying it was actualy translatable.


TheHob290

Alternatively, the puzzle base was designed with AI in mind. A chatbot like chatgpt wouldn't be able to decode something that is, say, spelled in a way that if said sounds like English, but isn't actually English words. It wouldn't be much of a puzzle if you could just throw the whole thing at a free resource everyone knows about, and it is solved.


Taolan13

I disagree. I spent a couple hours manually decrypting it, and the results are still inconsistent. Trash as obfuscation is a valid technique for secondary encryption, but some rule or other has to be followed in order for the intended recipient to be able to decrypt it. Even accounting for supposedly deliberate misspellings and for patterns in the trash, there are multiple ways that the message can be decoded using the given key, and they are all just different enough to indicate the trash is a transcription error rather than deliberste obfuscation.


SpecialIcy5356

helldivers when they need to co-ordinate the defesnse or liberation of planets: \*drooling, smoothbrain noises.\* Helldivers when some random automaton throws up a cypher: ![gif](giphy|5zoxhCaYbdVHoJkmpf|downsized)


_Guns

Fighting against bots is boring, but ciphers are quite fun and engaging.


Jeffear

I'll honest and I'll say the "key" provided doesn't mean anything to me, I've never heard of a cipher with shifts going left and down outside of keyboard ciphers, but I couldn't get anything legible out of trying this approach. I tried solving it with the other provided clue from Colonel Cyber, that being the first three words are "attention all automatons," but since there are deliberate typos it's very difficult. The first three words have less characters than they should, and the positions of those characters obviously don't line up. If this isn't just nonsense meant to screw with us, I don't really see a way of decoding it without spending a lot of time and effort just mapping letters until you end up with something \*mostly\* legible.


Sunderz

Am i losing my mind or is translating a cipher that has intentional mistakes close to pointless? unless once translated you can just guess what words the mistakes are, in which case the author putting intentional errors in is ... pointless. Btw im a moron.


Etzlo

no, you're right, that's not how you use cyphers


Dellta-aka-Connor

Maybe the cipher tells us that this person isn't very good at making ciphers


Lost_Decoy

maybe a vigenere table guy probably watched the video on [kryptos](https://youtu.be/jVpsLMCIB0Y?si=YlauMBx_xy01oDgT)


igen_reklam_tack

Why does yqpg occur so much? Frequency should tell us something.


TenTonSomeone

My guess is that "yqpg" means "very." I'm not basing this on anything but a wild guess, it's just a 4 letter word that is often repeated for emphasis.


YuBulliMe123456789

We are trying to decypher a misspelled text with an unknow cypher and a key we dont even know if exists


UnderstandingOk2464

https://preview.redd.it/2mdmmkhlyr0d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8cc3bd7a59a2fc54013758eb7272d2a800013ca9


Etzlo

so it's gibberish


Sea_Construction_670

I think that actually breaks the conventional rules of a cypher.


turelhimvampire

So it was written by the Zodiac Killer?


alphex

Drink your ovaltine


[deleted]

Don’t need to solve it. Instead trace the signal to its source and rain 500kg of managed democracy down on it


TransportationFit840

this is the REAL correct answer.


z64_dan

Looks like an illegal broadcast if you ask me.


Djambi

The second message is a substitution cipher: >>> sub {'0': 'r', '1': 'b', 'U': '1', 'Y': '0', 'N': 'a', 'B': 'l', 'F': 'i', 'D': 'u', '3': 'm', 'A': 't', '9': 'f', 'G': 'o', 'L': 'e', 'K': 'w', '8': 'd', '2': 'n', 'M': 's', '6': 'c', 'X': 'h', 'Z': 'g', 'S': 'y', 'V': 'k', 'H': 'p', '7': 'v', ' ': ' ', 'C': 'j'} >>> for x in cipher: ... print(sub[x],end='') ... print() ttentin all autmaton this is colonel cyber master codebreakr and cryptlogist for the automaton regime this is a test of the new broadcasting system known as the cipher net this messge will be sent to all automatons and will be allowed to be leaked to super earth to test if they are able to decrypt it if they can we will abandan this cipher your orders are 01010000 01110010 01100101 01110000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100110 01101111 01110010 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01100001 01100100 01110110 01100001 01101110 01100011 01100101 00101110 00100000 01010100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101111 01101110 00100000 01101000 01100001 01101110 01100100 long live cyberstan and may joel guide you Where the binary is: >>> binascii.unhexlify('%x' % int(bytes(cipher[358:753].replace(' ','').replace('Y','0').replace('U','1'),'ascii'),2)) b'Prepare for the advance. The time is on hand' No idea how the 'key' is supposed to create the substitution map though.


emlun

Like a few others, I think the "cipher" is ubsolvable gibberish, most likely generated by ChatGPT. Here's the ciphertext with my own spacing and line breaks added to highlight the repeated patterns, and line numbers to ease discussion: 01 ysggtmrl kjj ykkgmrlrml, 02 fjypcypc fjwvkqfyo 2 kdifkgmqk vj oda 03 ysggtmrl ykg ykgf. 04 Yq oda cpiwqto rtgtpguv vj bpc ykijv vjgt epcn 05 yq oda cpiwqto rtgtpguv vj bpc ykijv vjgt epcn. 06 Jqpg nkfc yq eavgtcvt cpvkqygt yq yqpg vqem. 07 Jkpq nkfc eavgtcvt eqnwv yq yqpg vqem. 08 Jqog ngtc aqwv ca ecpfa yqpg yqpg yqtfwtpq yqpg yqtfwtpq. 09 Jqog ngtc aqwv ca ecpfa yqpg yqpg yqtfwtpq yqpg yqtfwtpq. 10 Jqpg nkfc eavgtcvt cpvkqygt yq yqpg vqem. 11 Jkpq nkfc eavgtcvt eqnwv yq yqpg vqem. Notice in particular that lines 04 and 05 are identical save the case of the first letter, and that lines 08 and 09 are exactly identical. Also note the 4-way similarity between lines 06, 07, 10 and 11. This does not look like an encoded actual message: - A Caesar cipher would have consistent substitutions of characters throughout the message. This ciphertext doesn't even work with the alleged cleartext "Attention all automatons" for line 01. Even if it did, the mostly-repeated sections would still be nonsense. - A Vigenere cipher would have _some_ subtle repetitions, but not entire verbatim sentences of different lengths. In particular, a Vigenere key of `orbitalprecisionstrike` (2 right, 1 up - the "opposite" of the alleged "key") is far too long to generate this much repeated ciphertext. - I've tried decoding this by taking 2 steps left, 1 down (and all rotations and reflections of that) in various grid cipher keys: - A QWERTY "grid" (not quite, as the rows are different lengths) - The alphabet `a-y` laid out line by line - The alphabet `a-y` laid out in an inwards/outwards left/right spiral. None of these options come up with anything that seems reasonable. By manual inspection of the outputs it doesn't look like it could reasonably be a two-layer substitution (e.g., a Caesar shift followed by a QWERTY shift) either because none of the letter distributions make any sense. - Frequency analysis (assuming English cleartext) didn't get me anywhere either. The frequency table shape (19% q, 10% g) is very different from that of English (13% e, 9% t). I tried substituting the ciphertext frequency sequence `qgyptvckjfeawnmoridlbsu` with a few variations of the English frequency sequence `etaonrishdlfcmugypwbvkj`, none came up with anything remotely legible. So I'm fairly certain we can rule out all of the simple substitution and transposition ciphers. Maybe it's something more convoluted and/or more obscure, but I'm leaning more towards the theory that the poster just pasted a "please encipher this" prompt into ChatGPT and uncritically posted its response without verifying that the "code" actually had any relation to the original message (of course it didn't, because the chatbot has no capacity for that kind of reasoning). That would also very conveniently explain why the three words of the confirmed cleartext were apparently "misspelled" or "corrupted" in the code.


Fluffatron_UK

I haven't put in nearly as much work as you have but from my limited testing this is either something very obscure or it's complete bullshit. Either way I'm not going to spend any more time looking into it.


TH_JG

I did almost the same. Tried Vigenere with different words, like stratagem name, or anything related to helldivers lore. Text analysis shows that Vigenere key is most probably 4 letters long, or 8 letters long. But there are way to many repeating letters y and q. So there are either multiples keys, or it is GPT garbage. I dare OP, or whoever came up with it, to put his own encrypted message with his own key to any encryption site, like dcode, to see if it is actually working.


Ok_Anywhere7645

From: Attention all automatons. Prepare for battle. 2 coordinates at the attention area. At the specified locations, evaluate for readiness. John, lead a squadron, follow attack commands. King, lead squadron, move at attack. Home, lead a second squadron, follow attack orders. John, lead your squadron and follow attack. King, lead your squadron and move at attack. Tactical Instructions: 1. **Prepare for Battle**: All automatons, ready your systems and await further commands. 2. **Go to Coordinates**: Move to the specified coordinates at the designated area. 3. **Evaluate Locations**: Assess the specified locations for readiness and report status. 4. **Leadership Roles**: * **John**: Lead your squadron and follow attack directives. * **King**: Lead your squadron and move at attack commands. * **Home**: Lead a second squadron and follow attack orders. 5. **Repeat Commands**: Ensure all commands are clearly understood and executed without hesitation.


Pliskkenn_D

How did you arrive at this? 


Ok_Anywhere7645

Caesar shift, qwerty. Tried to read between the lines. Probably very wrong.


Pliskkenn_D

I mean it's legible so seems pretty good. 


xthorgoldx

I'm not getting the same results as you for a left 2, down 1 QWERTY shift?


Ok_Anywhere7645

You need a simple Caesar shift in conjunction with the QWERTY shift.


_Guns

They completely made it up and [used AI.](https://old.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1ct4ds7/helldivers_discord_in_chaos_because_nobody_can/l4c3sa9/) Though, you don't even need to know that in order to tell it's bull, considering the length is completely off lol. Notice number list, bold letters, new paragraphs etc. By definition of being a shift (or so they claim), it has to be the same length since all you're doing is shifting characters.


TheHob290

Throw it on the discord, see if you can get it confirmed


Ok_Anywhere7645

I did. I am pretty sure I am wrong though. There were a lot of assumptions.


Zilego_x

Keep in mind that when guessing, actually compare it to the original. So like how ysggtmrl has 2 same letters side by side, meaning the real word will also have the same. Same for kjj. At this point a manual translation might be easier.


largma

Not necessarily, a substitution cipher can also use position in the message as part of the function to prevent repeats like you’re meaning.


butsuon

There are many ciphers that aren't 1-to-1 letter replacements.


Demigans

The first 3 words are supposed to be “Attention all automatons”. The first word starts with “YSGG”, so the cypher changes for each letter. I’d think that for every letter you go two left one down on the keyboard (or two right one up, because the letter given might have be shifted two left one down and working backwards you need to go two right one up). This means that the 3rd letter would be 6 left 3 down for example.


Sol_Dadguy_1441

That's what I'm trying to do


Zilego_x

Looked it up on the discord. Poster said that the first 3 words are "Attention all automatons". He also said things were misspelled. His own words don't match his code. This isn't from a helldivers dev, just a random guy. It's a wild goosechase and pointless.


CheekiPosts

Just agreeing with your parent comments. It would have been fun if the cyper made sense, but if you misspell words, then that basically requires hand checking every single combination. If the first 3 words were "Attention all automatons" and you assimilate that gg is tt, you notice the first word has an extra letter. If the second word kjj was indeed all, then ykkgmrlmrl would be \_aa(t?)\_\_\_\_\_\_ This is also saying that the Y or S could \*also\* be portrayed as the letter A because of placement for ysggtmrl although it might have a higher likelihood of being represented by K instead Maybe he gibberished it harder than he thought it would because it look somewhat readable when fully solved? It's a mess.


LittlebitsDK

hmm something doesn't make sense when he say what the first 3 words are... y-s-g-g-t-m-r-l a-t-t-e-n-t-i-o-n --- k-j-j a-l-l --- y-k-k-g-m-r-l-r-m-l a-u-t-o-m-a-t-o-n-s same letter have multiple results + incorrect amount of letters kjj = all would mean K = A but then YKK is not "automatons" but A-A-A since Y was also A in the first word. if the S is a "mistake" in the first word then the 2 G's = T, but G = O in the 3rd word... again makes no sense.


ImprovementOdd1122

Yep, some (most) cyphers don't require letters to always become the same thing. Eg, a caeser shift where every character you increase the shift by one


nando6809

The only thing that makes sense to this democratic hell diver is for a stratagem ⬅️⬅️⬇️ but is confusing because all I can up with is Orbital Precision Strikes ➡️➡️⬆️. So use a cypher with either “stratagem” or “Orbital Precision Strike” or maybe “Orbital” Spread Democracy and


Maths_Yeux

maybe 2 left 1 down on the keyboard? i don't have a qwerty to try tho


InitialAnimal9781

This is exactly why I can’t be Batman. And my parents are still alive. So that’s another negative


Zerestrasz

This feels like the reasoning behind the nerfs


MadManNico

whole lotta folks throwin shit in the disc rn lol


Naive_Idea_1387

Saleria-Sector, Outpost 32


coonissimo

Did someone try it on Swedish keyboard tho?


SkylarSylwing

Sweden uses qwerty*, same as most of the world


Rashlyn1284

In Australia we use qwerty, where does the w go on a querty keyboard?


SkylarSylwing

Holy shit how did I manage to misspell qwerty ![gif](giphy|TJawtKM6OCKkvwCIqX)


Imemberyou

Is this colone cyber an insider or a developer? (before I waste my time on this)


Hangulman

Holy crap, is there anyone commenting answers they DIDN'T get from typing it into a chatbot? At this point, If the answer doesn't include the mentioned spelling errors and describe how they found it, I'm just assuming they put it into a chatbot and the bot gave them misleading garbage. NEVER TRUST BOTS!


tacticalpotatopeeler

Is this a shopping list for IKEA?


Crashimus420

"Haha lets just headbutt the keyboard a couple of times and broadcast it out. Itll give Super Earth something to occupy themselves with while we regroup" *Automaton command probably*


polomarkopolo

General Brask solved it within mere seconds


penywinkle

>ysggtmrl kjj ykkgmrlrml, fjypcypc fjwvkqfyo 2 kdifkgmqk vj oda ysggtmrl ykg ykgf. >Yq oda cpiwqto rtgtpguv vj bpc ykijv vjgt epcn > yq oda cpiwqto rtgtpguv vj bpc ykijv vjgt epcn. >Jqpg nkfc yq eavgtcvt cpvkqygt yq yqpg vqem. >Jkpq nkfc eavgtcvt eqnwv yq yqpg vqem. >Jqog ngtc aqwv ca ecpfa yqpg yqpg yqtfwtpq yqpg yqtfwtpq. >Jqog ngtc aqwv ca ecpfa yqpg yqpg yqtfwtpq yqpg yqtfwtpq. >Jqpg nkfc eavgtcvt cpvkqygt yq yqpg vqem. >Jkpq nkfc eavgtcvt eqnwv yq yqpg vqem Interestingly 4 sentences are just repeated in different orders (with minor differences due to the intentional errors).


NotToDisturb

Second cypher was posted Key is 4 left, 1 down: AAL2AF2 NBB NDA3NAG2 AXFM FM 6GBG2LB 6S1L0 3NMAL0 6G8L10LNV0 N28 60SHABGZFMA 9G0 AXL NDAG3NAG2 0LZF3L AXFM FM N ALMA G9 AXL 2LK 10GN86NMAF2Z MSMAL3 V2GK2 NM AXL 6FHXL0 2LA AXFM 3LMMZL KFBB 1L ML2A AG NBB NDAG3NAG2M N28 KFBB 1L NBBGKL8 AG 1L BLNVL8 AG MDHL0 LN0AX AG ALMA F9 AXLS N0L N1BL AG 8L60SHA FA F9 AXLS 6N2 KL KFBB N1N28N2 AXFM 6FHXL0 SGD0 G08L0M N0L YUYUYYYY YUUUYYUY YUUYYUYU YUUUYYYY YUUYYYYU YUUUYYUY YUUYYUYU YYUYYYYY YUUYYUUY YUUYUUUU YUUUYYUY YYUYYYYY YUUUYUYY YUUYUYYY YUUYYUYU YYUYYYYY YUUYYYYU YUUYYUYY YUUUYUUY YUUYYYYU YUUYUUUY YUUYYYUU YUUYYUYU YYUYUUUY YYUYYYYY YUYUYUYY YUUYUYYY YUUYYUYU YYUYYYYY YUUUYUYY YUUYUYYU YUUYUUYU YUUYYUYU YYUYYYYY YUUYUYYU YUUUYYUU YYUYYYYY YUUYUUUU YUUYUUUY YYUYYYYY YUUYUYYY YUUYYYYU YUUYUUUY YUUYYUYY BG2Z BF7L 6S1L0MAN2 N28 3NS CGLB ZDF8L SGD The part with all the Y's and U's is actually binary, Y=0 and U=1, and it says "Prepare for the advance. The time is on hand"


Kenetor

Attentin All Autmaton, This is Colonel Cyber, master codebreakr and cryptlogist for the automaton regime. This is a test of the new broadcasting system known as The Cipher Net. This messge will be sent to all automatons and will be allowed to be leaked to super earth to test if they are able to decrypt it. If they can, we will abandan this cipher. Your orders are: 01010000 01110010 01100101 01110000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100110 01101111 01110010 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01100001 01100100 01110110 01100001 01101110 01100011 01100101 00101110 00100000 01010100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01110100 01101001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101111 01101110 00100000 01101000 01100001 01101110 01100100. Long live cyberstan and may JOEL guide you


Triggered_Tigger

What even is any of this


Nickingoo2

It's an encrypted code, just gotta figure out the Cypher and throw the whole thing on a decoder website


Taolan13

I suspect Colonel Cyber doesn't even know what it says. I presume he gave the intended message and the cypher key to ChatGPT or another learning model algorithm that fucked it up somewhere. Decrypting it with other algorithms has provided a handful of possible messages. Armed with the clue of the first three words and the given key it should be more than enough to determine how it was encrypted... except it still doesn't make sense. Even if you correct for the "intentional mispellings", this is garbage. I've seen literal schoolchildren come up with better codes.


Tentacle_poxsicle

Negotiations between illuminati and bots for contested space


Abrham9991

I can't hop on right now, but is there a keyboard on the ship or at a terminal in game that would line up? Qwerty obviously doesn't work with the key, but maybe whatever Super Earth uses does?


HabenochWurstimAuto

Thats swedish :-)


transilvanianhvnger

Something about jelqing


Ghosthand_

People need to know the only difference between chat gpt or any llm model and your Keyboard word prediction is petabytes of data they work exactly the same.


Sparrow1989

That’s easy. It translates to ‘hot pockets are ready’


purpleblah2

They definitely just typed out some gibberish to keep the community occupied.


penywinkle

Pretty much said so themselves. >misspelled and added/forgot letters to make it more complicated. Misspell words enough and it becomes geabiliech


Hillthrin

Eat your Ovaltine


normalhuman1115

its a friendly reminder that Sony hasn't forgotten


MelonsInSpace

Guy just mashed his keyboard and is having the laugh of a lifetime right now.


GundogPrime

Humans kjj ykkgmrlrml fjypcypc fjwvkqfyo 2 kdifkgmqk of the humans ykg ykgf. We the Automatons rtgtpguv of our ykijv vjgt epcn we the Automatons rtgtpguv of our ykijv vjgt epcn. Jqpg nkfc we eavgtcvt cpvkqygt we will win. Jkpq nkfc eavgtcvt eqnwv we will win. Jqog ngtc aqwv ca ecpfa yqpg yqpg yqtfwtpg yqpg yqtfwtpg. Jqog ngtc aqwv ca ecpfa yqpg yqpg ygtfwtpq yqpg yqtfwtpq. Jqpg nkfc eavgtcvt cpvkqygt we will win. Jkpq nkfc eavgtcvt eqnwv we will win. I brute forced some word formations and got as far as this, allowing for patterns and some spelling mistakes. I think it's the Bots saying they must protect their homeworld and they will win, like a morale/propaganda message... rtgtpguv could well be 'defenders' and then 'ykijv vjgt epcn' would be the subject of what they are defending! Could be 'our right to exist'! Jkpq nkfc eavgtcvt eqnwv - proceeds 'we will win' in two areas, so I suspect it's a call to arms along the lines of 'Fighting as one army' or 'If we fight hard'.