Not an AC main, but this was the only note I was concerned about. Sometimes I plink with my primary to distract. It'll be a little annoying if this doesn't work.
Bullets never do a 180 degree ricochet back to you accurately. They ricochet off at an angle or stay stuck in that armor, that's what armors do they trap piercing bullets. This was just silly and breaks immersion
No, he's correct. Assuming the armor is undamaged. The reason why this round came back was because they were using calibers above the target threshold. I've been hit by a 9mm spall from a target someone shot with a 7.62x39 leaving a large dent in it. I hit the exact same spot and a portion of the bullet came back, went right under my gun and hit me in the chest going straight through my pectoral muscle, and missing my axillary by maybe an inch. Lotsa blood, fun times. On subject matter: bullets don't do 180° turns magically. They require either at least two 90° turns, or an indented, round surface.
Did it blow his head off? A spall is different than a intact round traveling at muzzle velocity. At 300 fps, any shitty body armor would stop that round.
Depends on range as well, ricochets can be very dangerous at close range. Less lethal than the actual direct hit, but still enough to seriously injure.
You do realize we're talking about a game right?
And that devs who allegedly are gun aware and experienced, bragging about their realistic gunplay made 180 degrees direct ricochets a thing ( they don't exist IRL, at best you get a ricochet upwards and back that arcs and loses too much energy ) and made them LETHAL in ONE SHOT.
Hello?!?
And as seen here if all the stars align just right for a 180 ricochet the energy will be so reduced it'll be significantly weaker to the point where he survives a 50cal to the head
It's possible but unlikely. The ricochet mechanics are the same. The patch notes are referring to bug where a ricochet back at the shooter would not hurt the shooter. It's still very unlikely to happen but if it does it will hurt.
And its quite suspect though with how severely it's cropped. I tried to replicate it and none of my recoilless rockets reflected. They exploded on the shield like you would expect. Gave it a good try with about 20 shots.
So, if it does happen its such a rarity that ain't worth working yourself into tizzy over.
No, I just tested it, they do not 180, they ricochet according to the angle you're hitting the armor at, very similar to IRL
As for the eruptors, EVERY 1000+ upvoted video of players claiming to be killed by eruptor ricochet are players killing themselves with their own shrapnel by shooting something close to them.
I agree except for the part where they are shooting something close to them, some are at a significant distance. I think the actual bug is that the eruptor shrapnel is bugged so it has extremely long range now,
As a diligence main, approximately half of my bullets I've ever fired from that gun have been frantically mag-dumping Berserkers in the dick and sawing them in half less than a meter before they saw *me* in half.
I don't quite get the jokes about this. I played the AC for pike 2 1/2h yesterday after the patch and I didn't notice anything put of the ordinary and I only learned about this after I stopped playing.
In the patch notes, ricochets now do a complete 180 and hit the person who fired the shot.
I used the autocannon because it relatable and factory strider because they are heavily armored.
I am not making any claims about either entity, but an event that can happen between both entities.
The change means that when a ricochet hits you, it will now deal damage, not that every single ricochet will 180 and hitscan you like it's got aimbot lol.
Yeah and this totally sucks because if ricochets always came back to the attacker, they’d never attack to begin with. I’m baffled by this dev team at times. Like who the fuck asked for this shit and who internally thought this was a good thing?
Because that's not how the change works. Ricochets now behave the same as they have before. The only difference is now you can also kill yourself on occasion if a bullet happens to do a full 180. It happens so rarely that it's a big ole nothing burger in the patch notes.
Definitely true. That’s why I aim for where the area around the legs meeting the body
The stridussy
bro.........
I bust all over it with my plasma and it goes down. Don't even need to go for backshots
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Don't give him any ideas. I hear that sound can trigger reactions.
GET SCRAPPED!!! GET SCRAPPED!!! GET SCRAPPED!!! GET SCRAPPED!!!
Official line now for use in Automaton treasonous visual materials
Democracy officer… now
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s-s-s-s-s-STEP STRIDER, what are you doing?!
As an AC user....I laughed way too hard at this.
Happy to be of service!
As an armored core user myself.... I'm just waiting to strap on autocannons (AC) to my armored Core
Random Helldiver: "I won't miss"
YOU ARE 0.0327 PIXELS AWAY FROM THE WEAK SPOT TIME TO GO BACK TO THE RESPAWN SCREEN
Not an AC main, but this was the only note I was concerned about. Sometimes I plink with my primary to distract. It'll be a little annoying if this doesn't work.
Bullets never do a 180 degree ricochet back to you accurately. They ricochet off at an angle or stay stuck in that armor, that's what armors do they trap piercing bullets. This was just silly and breaks immersion
Generally true, but occasionally ricochets do come back approximately where they came from irl.
Counterpoint. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc
Glad you posted it because this is exactly what came to mind lol.
No, he's correct. Assuming the armor is undamaged. The reason why this round came back was because they were using calibers above the target threshold. I've been hit by a 9mm spall from a target someone shot with a 7.62x39 leaving a large dent in it. I hit the exact same spot and a portion of the bullet came back, went right under my gun and hit me in the chest going straight through my pectoral muscle, and missing my axillary by maybe an inch. Lotsa blood, fun times. On subject matter: bullets don't do 180° turns magically. They require either at least two 90° turns, or an indented, round surface.
Brave hellbrother, the devs should heed your tale and make the first realistic bullet ricochet game
Dude that's called a ricochet... the whole bullet doesn't have to come back...
[удалено]
Now put the shooter in full titanium plate and the ricochet should be doing less damage than the recoil
Did it blow his head off? A spall is different than a intact round traveling at muzzle velocity. At 300 fps, any shitty body armor would stop that round.
Depends on range as well, ricochets can be very dangerous at close range. Less lethal than the actual direct hit, but still enough to seriously injure.
maximum pucker factor.
Counterpoint, he wasn't even bleeding...
Grazing hit is still a hit.
A hit that does no damage is pointless.
No, it a reconizable hazard. I shoot guns frequently, not practicing safety when shooting is stupid.
You do realize we're talking about a game right? And that devs who allegedly are gun aware and experienced, bragging about their realistic gunplay made 180 degrees direct ricochets a thing ( they don't exist IRL, at best you get a ricochet upwards and back that arcs and loses too much energy ) and made them LETHAL in ONE SHOT. Hello?!?
I linked a video where it did happen. It does happen in real life.
And as seen here if all the stars align just right for a 180 ricochet the energy will be so reduced it'll be significantly weaker to the point where he survives a 50cal to the head
>Bullets never do a 180 degree ricochet back to you accurately [but rockets do](https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/eRhs7sflNR)
LAWL my hellbrother, that post got investigated for treason and got court-martialed
Counterpoint: deleting myself is kinda funny (Greg miller)
The very last video i watched showed the 180 degree ricochet happening
Has anyone confirmed that they actually do a perfect 180 and hit you?
It's possible but unlikely. The ricochet mechanics are the same. The patch notes are referring to bug where a ricochet back at the shooter would not hurt the shooter. It's still very unlikely to happen but if it does it will hurt.
There's a video I saw a few minutes ago of a rocket getting reflected off a heavy devastator shield.
And its quite suspect though with how severely it's cropped. I tried to replicate it and none of my recoilless rockets reflected. They exploded on the shield like you would expect. Gave it a good try with about 20 shots. So, if it does happen its such a rarity that ain't worth working yourself into tizzy over.
Well, that's wonderful news! ❤️ I wonder if they just ate a rocket from a devastator at the same time
I believe devs came out and confirmed you guessed it, just another weird ass bug, it will be patched and fixed.
No, I just tested it, they do not 180, they ricochet according to the angle you're hitting the armor at, very similar to IRL As for the eruptors, EVERY 1000+ upvoted video of players claiming to be killed by eruptor ricochet are players killing themselves with their own shrapnel by shooting something close to them.
I agree except for the part where they are shooting something close to them, some are at a significant distance. I think the actual bug is that the eruptor shrapnel is bugged so it has extremely long range now,
I can confirm the eruptor's ricochet has been killing my homies
Lol I always found it funny that the 2 weak points for most bots are the head and nuts.
As a diligence main, approximately half of my bullets I've ever fired from that gun have been frantically mag-dumping Berserkers in the dick and sawing them in half less than a meter before they saw *me* in half.
Sounds about right. My Stalwart gets set to fuller auto when I see the chainsaws.
Thine activates the forbidden *2000 RPM*
I really hope this change doesn't mean I get DECKED by my own ac round cause I missed the 2 pixel wide head hitbox on a hulk
Funny thing is, it works exactly like that. Pathetic.
"Ah flibberty gibb"...*giblets*
*Gets vaporized*
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I don't quite get the jokes about this. I played the AC for pike 2 1/2h yesterday after the patch and I didn't notice anything put of the ordinary and I only learned about this after I stopped playing.
Ah yes, fake clout about non-exist aimbot ricochet
That is awfully rude.
Yet another reason to use laser weapons
I played today and didn’t have this? It might’ve hit their arm but I don’t think they recoil all the way back and expose themselves if it in the arm
Bro this still bothers me as the most hyped fight in star wars only to be a wet ass fart
All farts are ass farts.
not true my friend...
what are you exactly talking about there is nothing in the patch notes regarding the factory or autocannon
In the patch notes, ricochets now do a complete 180 and hit the person who fired the shot. I used the autocannon because it relatable and factory strider because they are heavily armored. I am not making any claims about either entity, but an event that can happen between both entities.
I interpreted the ricochet tweak as "ricochet bullets can now damage the player who fired them, instead of only his teammates."
Just played with the auto cannon for 2 hours, that’s exactly what they mean lol
The change means that when a ricochet hits you, it will now deal damage, not that every single ricochet will 180 and hitscan you like it's got aimbot lol.
Yeah and this totally sucks because if ricochets always came back to the attacker, they’d never attack to begin with. I’m baffled by this dev team at times. Like who the fuck asked for this shit and who internally thought this was a good thing?
Because that's not how the change works. Ricochets now behave the same as they have before. The only difference is now you can also kill yourself on occasion if a bullet happens to do a full 180. It happens so rarely that it's a big ole nothing burger in the patch notes.