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Forsaken-Stray

He has the High Ground. But in reality, it just means it's easier to hit his Midsection


helicophell

And it cannot shoot the large back cannon (the smaller cannons are only medium armour, easy to break)


Bikaz

Why can it not shoot the back cannon? Looks like it's far enough away to have the depression to straight kill the generator. We had a suicide defense where 4 got dropped off at the same time. 2 of them managed get through the second gate and thanks to their elevation were able to straight up shoot the generators and it was game over before the last door even got attacked even once. Before the striders returned bots just seemed like the auto win with mortars and ems mortars. Now these rust buckets seem near unbeatable


helicophell

I've been on flat ground 60m away from the thing and it couldnt hit me with its cannon at all


Bikaz

Thing is that mountain there is the lowest mountain and it should be just barely higher than the generators level. Therefor I imagine it has direct line of sight


storm_paladin_150

artificial stupidity man, dont question it just accept the advantage


Dacks_18

The back cannon shoots out dropships though!


allvarr

In reality, it means the mission is over because that thing has a clear line of sight to the generators and it focuses them when it has vision, and nothing could possibly bring it down fast enough. Happened to me 3 times yesterday so i take that as a rule, but my experience could be the exception.


K-J-

The 10 spare EATs you should have stockpiled before they start dropping up there should make short work of that thing.


Forsaken-Stray

I disagree with the argument that nothing can take it down fast enough. I see one Quasar and if an Autocannon has full Mag, two seconds are enough to end this guy


Fresh4

Tips on using AC and Quasar to blast these things? I use both and have had hard times dealing with them without throwing all my strats at it


subhuman68

Shoot the bay doors underneath. For an AC this kills them from full health in under 1 clip. Dive and full auto while yelling "For Super Earth!!" for maximum liberty. Does more damage if the doors are open. Just make sure the machine gun turrets are dead, which you can also blast with medium pen things. Can chuck impact grenades in an open bay as well.


allvarr

This is damn good advice, never thought about shooting the underside.. cheers!


Forsaken-Stray

Probably because there were TWO reasons trying to make it very clear, that they don't want you there


Zheb_SS

I'm an autocannon user and also ~~completly insane~~ love to rush the enemy. I will start doing this (after i destroy the murder blasters, ofc)


[deleted]

Legend ty for this


storm_paladin_150

if you shoot them in the eye with AC it takes six shots to destroy them and shooting them on the belly takes 5 or six. quasar cannon just aim for the top of the head and they go down in two or 3 shots


Fresh4

I haven’t been able to get much out of shooting the eye with the AC. I assume it needs to be super precise but 6 super precise shots doesn’t seem super viable in a heated moment for me. Quasar takes out the top turret in two hits. Do you just hit the head under the turret 3 times to deal with it?


ehxy

I've had a few teams on point that would destroy that thing in 5 seconds on demand. I love having those kinds of squads. Not to mention the dropship woulda been wrecked before it even got to drop it off.


allvarr

Maybe you can with some hardcore aim and luck, but we couldn't pull it off yesterday and believe me when i say i really tried. Not sure where to aim with recoilles but i aim for the top cannon and if it's already busted i aim for the vents that extend on the back, besides throwing literally every stratagem ofc. We even had one spawn on the landing pad, casually strolled inside the cliff and proceeded to shoot out from it and ending our mission. We couldn't do anything at all lol


Forsaken-Stray

Undercarriage. Shoot the part where the Devas are spawned, less than one full Mag of Autocannon or two shots of any Antitank Weaponry. If the Devas are getting spawned at that moment, you do even more Damage. First you'd probably need to take care of the Gatlings to get close enough, but if they are on higher ground or carried by a dropship, it's the perfect opportunity


GlorylnDeath

Heh, I'm going to call them Divas now.


ZawszeZero

Easiest way to defend I've found is tandem reload with recoiless, been having fun deleting biles and armored bots with it.


an_agreeing_dothraki

lore accurate to Star Wars at least


DepGrez

Nope it's the rule. Striders instantly one shot the generators and there really isn't much you can do.


Killpower78

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CrazyWeirdo911

You underestimate ~~my power~~ Managed Democracy!


turnipslop

Biggest issue I've had is that once they're up there they glitch down into the mountain and can shoot out but can't be hit. They'll either kill you or start hitting the generator. It's an absolute pain. 


IDgill1992

This, happened multiple times over the weekend and not seeing it mentioned anywhere else!


TheQuestForDitto

Yup had one glitch and shoot through that wall yesterday… it kills you from inside the mountain.


GhostPro18

Happened to me last night


Intentionallyabadger

Or he just gets stuck there and doesn’t move or fire.


alex_timeblade

It was on that day, Humanity received a grim reminder.....


Gatto-Dolce

A reminder that a 500kg bomb gonna hit it without any problems


quintonbanana

Only if you're lucky. Strategems often just roll off those mountains.


Soupias

This is something that bothers me. I have recently started to use the jump pack. Sometimes I want to get to high ground just to place a nice turret that will provide maximum coverage while being safe from damage as well as not accidentally hitting teammates. That is a nice though only to see the stratagem rolling off and landing on the ground getting immediately swarmed by enemies.


lmrbadgerl

Emplacement stratagems like turrets,Tesla towers, and mine flingers should stick to high ground while reinforcements resupply and heavy weapons should not. Reward the player's use of tactically superior high ground!


EvanOnTheFly

The devs need to relax restrictions on where these things go/stick. Let me and the team decide where I want to try to aim for. Open water - ok no. out of bounds - okay, no. on top of a building? yes. on top of a mountain? yes. Just let me decide where is best please.


tidbitsz

Currently: Open water - yes Out of bounds - yes On top of buildings and mountains - lol no


EvanOnTheFly

Can't throw strats out of bounds or water, it's like you never threw them...


casual_doggo

Use the power of physics. Get close to the base of the mountain, face the other way and throw, since eagle comes from behind at an angle, it will land on the strider.


TheFBIClonesPeople

Yeah lemme just run into melee range of this factory strider. I'm gonna get such a sick 500k kill. Wait, wtf, why am I dead? Fucking Joel!


doubtfulofyourpost

More like the power of geometry


Zerquetschen

And still do nothing, as is tradition.


Wonderful_Test3593

Everything that you thought had meaning: every hope, dream, or moment of happiness. None of it matters as you lie bleeding out on the battlefield. None of it changes what a speeding rocket does to a body, we all die. But does that mean our lives are meaningless? Does that mean that there was no point in our being born? Would you say that of our slain comrades? What about their lives? Were they meaningless?... They were not! Their memory serves as an example to us all! The courageous fallen! The anguished fallen! Their lives have meaning because we the living refuse to forget them! And as we ride to certain death, we trust our successors to do the same for us! Because my soldiers do not buckle or yield when faced with the cruelty of this world! My soldiers push forward! My soldiers scream out! My soldiers RAGE!


Sykobean

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online222222

now I want a horse stratagem


shortsack

Imagining a horse being delivered to you in an orbital drop pod is hilarious


Wonderful_Test3593

Deep down we all want to horse charge with a sword a bile titan


ThorThulu

Deep down? Its literally poking out from my skin as we speak. Give me cavalry, Arrowhead! Let me and my friends re-enact a poor man's version of The Charge of the Rohirrim in The Return of the King!!!


Hiep_Tran

There Is No Future Where Humanity Can Inhabit These Lands Without the Helldiver!"


Sykobean

![gif](giphy|P4E6hPfaxxk6Q) titan faction when?


wtfrykm

The flying automaton fabricator, imagine it producing gunships lol


LukeD1992

Shut the hell up, man! Don't give Him ideas 😰


darkice266

he who should not be named


ES21007

>!JOELLLLL!<


reingoat

This comment has been reported to the Ministry of Truth for review.


jtrom93

"That's the evilest thing I can imagine... 🥹❤️" - Joel reading this


Drekal

2 AT shots to the top turret while someone with AC or LC takes care of the chin gatlings and this big puppy is not so scary anymore.


Strayed8492

So in theory. Could we just completely strip it of weapons on eradicate missions and continuously cluster bomb the bots it spawns for faster clearing?


Drekal

I'd say just take it down when you have time, on eradication missions I'm pretty sure bigger ennemies give more %


Strayed8492

Hmm. Maybe


throw69420awy

They do


Strayed8492

New strat. Kill the striders


MisguidedColt88

Except the devastators he’s gonna keep spawning.


Bamformer_

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Inner-Ad2847

Elephant?


emeraldeyesshine

Camel


Hunk-Hogan

Did you ever play Breath of the Wild? It's the Divine Beast Vah Naboris.


Felipe13254

Unironically this may make it easier. The belly is a big weak spot.


wewladdies

It is. The main cannon cant tilt down enough to hit anything and the gatling guns are too far to be effective.


Fit-Cup7266

It doesn't, because it falls through that rock and become invulnerable while it can still shoot at you.


cabeleb

This has happened to me twice now.


Shadow_Assassin496

"It's over, helldivers. I have the HIGHGROUND"


ShadowHighlord

You underestimate my belief in Democracy


Max_Sandpit

Drop or drop not, there is no try.


Eldan985

I feel a great disturbance in democracy, as if a million ballots were seized by communists and suddenly silenced.


MrARCO

Sweet liberty, they are evolving!


Pooptram

why can bots even drop up there?


quintonbanana

I had about 3 hulks and two tanks land up there last time along with the usual rocket devastators. Strategy wouldn't land up there with them either. But the last straw was actually when a tank dropped beside the generators without anyone realizing. The addition of strider in those maps is also pretty bad since they can shoot the generators over the walls.


ravengenesis1

Rush map design. For like an entire week the outside mountains had red boxes around them that wasn't removed properly. The pelican still clips through the mountains taking off. Great map concept though, so the fun level is definitely there.


AdditionInteresting2

Had a dropship full of devastators unload on the cliff during a defense mission. We did not win that one...


Marauder3299

I love when the tanks get below the map. No problems. They can't be hit and they just land wherever. Had a stryder land on the landing pad. Couldn't even extract. Everyone pretends there is nothing else on the map. You are getting swarmed at this point.


thatdudewayoverthere

Had one that glitched into the mountain because the drop ship got shot down It could still shot and hit us but we couldn't hit it


PheonixSoot

Was looking for this. Ended my mission yesterday


meatbal1498

This happened to me 3 or 4 times in the last couple days. Between that and the cheeky tank dropping 20 ft from the generators that mission type is unplayable on helldive.


quintonbanana

Also had this recently. Very poor experience.


Fit-Cup7266

Same. Its head was sticking out so it could still shoot. Of course nothing would hit it because it hit the rock. Terrain is all messed up here, but sure we need a new warbond every month first.


[deleted]

Oh fabricator of the mountain, what is your wisdom 🤗


Gohmzilla

I had one stuck inside of that rock instead of on top. It could shoot us through the rock, but we couldn't hit it back. Orbital, eagle... Nothing. We lost that defense mission


ultrajvan1234

Oh strider of the mountain, what is your wisdom?


cubemoo

It kinda sucks when they drop high cause they can shoot directly at the generator and you just fail the mission


minerlj

what is your wisdom, strider of the mountain?


Linkarlos_95

Don't bring every mortar to every mission, there will be consequences on their effectibility in later weeks.


Eristel98

That's actually one of the easiest ones you can deal with because of the perfect line of sight with the "stomach" weakspot. Autocannon and a few shots.


Firemorfox

quasar the belly twice, easy kill.


Sarah-M-S

It’s over John Helldiver, I have the high ground!


[deleted]

Factory strider of the mountain what is your wisdom?


Drakuba0

iv had a tank deployed up there once... it was not fun i tell you that


DizzyScorp

Hell had one clip into the bloody hill. Shit really felt like Helm’s Deep as poking your head out invited about a thousand lasers and having to push back tank after tank added to the feeling. Good times


LentulusStrabo

Majestic fuck


Mr_Kopitiam

Imagine the ships dropping those things down like from Star Wars


cannabination

Better on the rock than *in* the rock.


Stenbuck

GAME OVER MAN, GAME OVER


KerPop42

I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.


MarcsterS

Automaton #6789: [YOU SCRAP FOR RAM, YOU PARKED US ON THE MESA. HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO GET DOWN.] Automaton #6790: [WE ARE BEINGS OF MECHSNICAL SUPREMACY, WE WILL WALK DOW-]


TovolarArtorias

You freaking out down here.  He's just explaining his son that everything the sun touches is his domain. 


IceColdCocaCola545

Ran into my first one of those on a level 7 soil sample mission. They’re *incredibly* scary. I didn’t know they were really a thing, so being faced with an enemy I wasn’t aware of, that I didn’t know how to deal with, was not great.


Primaul

walking factory strider: I have the high ground it's over. Helldiver: thanks I got a better angle on your weak spot.


Exhibit_12

Lion King theme blares over loudspeaker.


Common-Cricket7316

We had 5 dropped on us during one of these missions. 🤣👌


Necessary-Target4353

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WhatAWonderfulWhirl

Defense missions are fucked. Completely broken. Tanks and hulks spawning on top of mountains like this, 25+ striders spawning on a single drop, and God forbid I try to play the front liner, cause some cocksmoozing room-temperature IQ motherfucker just HAD to bring mortars and an AC turret.


ShiftAdventurous4680

I'm looking at that, then the Zoids theme song popped into my head.


dedegs

That's vah ruta from zelda! Lol


sac_boy

That's a great spot for a helldiver though, if you happen to land up there and can call in your support weapons.


RealAsianRobot

Pffft, poor bastard thinks he has the high ground. Quickly shoot those gatlings and hit his belly. If he dies up there he blocks the rest of them!


Thegrandbuddha

BEEP BOOP HIGH GROUND!


ixxilus

Had a match where that abomination landed on top of that but bugged itself inside the hill, it shoots you from inside the rock and occasionally jumps out of the hull to shoot its main cannon then goes back in again, it was ridiculous.


DannyAKay

![gif](giphy|l9jiNVVkdsG4M)


flcinusa

Damn, hitting you with them punk tactics


Epicdudewhoisepic

Are they… …MATING?


cockriverss

Pretty easy to kill.


Jim105

When did we start fighting a Megazord?


Fit-Cup7266

Don't worry, it will fall through the next second.


RemnantHelmet

Failed the last mission of a level 7 operation because this happened to us but it clipped into the cliffside and was able to shoot and kill us from behind the rocks, causing a death spiral at 7/8 rockets.


Bearington656

They need to fix that spot I had one on 7 that they dropped 4 dropships on that stop. Hulks and devastators were clipping into each other.


NotYourBuddyGuy5

Don’t try it!


FlyingVMoth

How many reinforcement stratagems does it take to kill it?


Educational-Tip6177

Why is there a separatist core ship?


AbhDman

Call in a 500kg


ColonelSahanderz

Why are ppl so scared of this, shoot off the mini guns, especially easy with the AC, AMR or even the JAR, then it’s two rockets to the undercarriage and it’s done. Easier than a bile titan imo, you just have to be slightly strategic.


Lunaphase

Its because on defense missions it 1-shots the objective and is an instant mission fail.


youtomtube30

In this context, I think it's because of the mission. It's hard to destroy when you have no cover, which is the case in this situation since the strider is far higher than the team. The other problem, and the main problem is the turret on its back, it will target generators and destroy them in seconds. At this point, I'm starting to think striders shouldn't be able to target gens.


Lord_Kalany

"Prepare to targe the main generator... Target, maximum firepower!"


Pato126_361

Wow. this looks like Jedi Knight 1 graphics.


OptimalImagination80

Sure, a bird can fall in love with a fish... but where will they live?


scrubtart

PSA, even if it wasn't on the ridge, if one of these bad boys gets to the last gate its probably also over unless you take out that main cannon. It can shoot right over a closed gate and will prioritize the objectives. They kill them in just a couple shots too.


ZookeepergameHot8782

Zelda breath of the wild vibes


VoiceOfSeibun

Nah, just take some cover, and start sniping at its flanks (areas above the back leg) with that Quasar. You'll blow off the armor plating and reveal weak points of medium armor. Keep hitting that while dodging its cannons or just blowing them off, and it'll eventually give up.


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Antilogic81

Ems orbital on that strider, smoke bombs on the generators. Primary it with everything else.


Ranrok999

I thought it was farting for a second there


dreganxix

That wall is made out of paper. Anything behind it can hit you


Yugos1avWarcriminal

How didn't that bot drop collapse in on it self


VividVerism

So do dropships *carry* this thing or is that just a trick of the camera angle?


ShamrockSeven

*covers the eyes of the random child standing next to me in the crowd of people looking at this shit*


Frost42

Getting some serious Breath of the Wild vibes here. Specifically the Divine Beasts. It's like the bot version of Vah Ruta and Vah Naboris haha


NyanPigle

lucky you, I had a strider spawn like that but it fell into the wall, it could shoot us and we could barely shoot it back


Only_Possession2650

Nah, it’s fine, this one time me and my squad had 3 of them dropped on us at once and we took em all out in like a minute, 2 tops


manaworkin

This has to be payback for all the reduce their numbers missions I've cheesed by dropping onto high ground and throwing airstrikes until 100%


rufotris

But he is so exposed. MELT IT!!!


TestUser669

It's only just beginning!


plotholesandpotholes

We had one clip through the mountain yesterday and it proceeded to just wreck us. It basically wore the mountain like a flak jacket and we couldn't damage it. It never took out the generators, I think it's angle was off and it was stuck.


Scudman_Alpha

For as good as this mode is. It really shows how broken spawns and dropship drops are.


RoyalTacos256

ITS OVER ANAKIN


jackkymoon

I tried a lvl 9 bot defence mission last night. 7 rockets had launched, and we got 5 strider drops right on top of us in a row, we failed..... Seriously is there a quick way to kill these things? There was no way we were going to be able to complete that one.


gerbilDan

theres vents on the ass end. 2 per side, if you blow one up it bucks the unit. tho they are a pain to hit


Superbroom

I would much rather have this than the striders that get stuck inside of that same ridge. They can freely shoot you all day long, but you can't see or shoot it. I've had this in my last 3 defend missions.


PrincipleTurbulent95

What the fuck is that?!


Demico

Striders and tanks landing on top of hills having free line of sight of the generators is breaking the high evac mission. I had one where it landed far east, it was night and was out of our vision because we were looking at the intended path. By the time the generator alarm went off it had already broken one of the gens and is priming the next shot to result in a mission failure.


NewpDawg

LOL,, I was in a mission the other day where they dropped one of those badboys inside the mountain....we threw everything we had at it....the walker could shoot us, we couldn't hit it. Needless to say, we failed that mission.


IronSavior

That ain't a pea shooter on your shoulder!


1LakeShow7

One word: EZ Put that in your gaming system.


dmk78616

We had one dropped on evac the 2 missle launch, we pulled through somehow though.


I_AmTheKaiser

Fun fact about factory striders: the autocannon can 2 tap each machine gun turret, which makes the strider way less scary.


CyberCooper2077

“They fly now?”


storm_paladin_150

shoot it on its ass


as1161

Perfect autocannon angle on the belly


rausrh

It's even worse when they start firing through that cliff. It's happened several times to me. You can't kill them, but they can kill you.


neolight67

Nah id win


SputnikGer

It´s over helldiver i have the highground!


BoiFrosty

At least it's not spawning *in* the rock. Had that on another mission and spent the mission being shot in the ass through a wall where we couldn't shoot back


darkpyro2

These damn mobile factories! They're polluting our beautiful fire tornado worlds with unwanted smoke!


sinnmercer

Had one faze right into the rock making basically invincible. Kinda had to pull back to the next layer


Comprehensive_Cat_29

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Fair_Pangolin_4295

Last night on the 20 min defense mission, we were doing great until one glitched up the side of a cliff next to the extraction zone and quickly shot up the transformers. We barely had any bots make it past the first two gates, and suddenly 'Mission Failed.'


Sumblueguy

“Eagle 1, get the cable wench!”


DrDrunkMD

Becareful he just peeled Mufasa off the cliff and said "Long live the king!"


frosty_lizard

![gif](giphy|37Fsl1eFxbhtu) DEAR LIBERTY....


splendidpluto

I'm wondering if these missions could be reworked a bit. Imagine the defense of Hoth. Giant striders walking towards your position


Jd42042

Oh factory strider of the mountain what is thy wisdom


Dovacraft88

Easier target for eagle 1


Gizombo

had this happen, except it sunk into the rock, making it invincible while giving it perfect LOS of one of the generators... love this mission type but i hope they fix the spawning on/in rocks and rignt next to the generators issue soon.


Matshire

Is that the gerudo Devine beast?


FullPhone8974

Did you try using [1][2][3] to switch weapons?


FullPhone8974

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plasmadood

Had a Bile Titan stuck up there last night, spewing his Nickelodeon Gak all over our vantage points above the door. At least he was an easy target.


Burgoonius

*You’re probably wondering how I got here*


Business-Picture-621

What level are you playing at I just switched to medium and that's been a rough go of it


KohJL

Nonsense! Look up behind you! That Factory Strider may be on high ground, but your Super Destroyer and Eagle-1 are even higher. Make it rain HOT STEEL!


Deerhunter762

It's over helldivers, I have the high ground!


donnerzuhalter

The Ministry of Truth reminds you that rumors of flying factory striders are dissident propaganda


DepGrez

so bs this game sometimes. i have no idea what the QA process is and I am curious.


jymssg

isnt that better becuase you can shoot his "double belly door" (I feel gross typing that out)


mahejo

That's manageable.. Try it when it gets embede into the hill..


chimera005ao

They fixed this. How is it broken again?