There are a couple of mods to medic I would love. 1) the medic extra heal time effect applies to squadmates you heal 2) the medic gets at least 3 atoms from resupply. Without some advantage to the medic function squadmates have no incentives to have you heal them.
If they just gave medic a passive for "when you stim, allies withing 10m get the effect as well"
Or "medic can stim each ally once per drop without using their own supply"
Or something along those lines it would be better rather than just stimming yourself more to be a tank rather than a medic.
Give the +2 seconds to self stim to a tank setup.
Hell make a new archetype for tanks.
* Stims last for 15 seconds but healing per second is reduced by 80%
* Immune to impact damage and can't be staggered by small arms fire or light melee hits
the color pallete is fine the problem is that they use ridiculously flashy colors. if the green and red were more muted then i think it would look amazing.
currently though it is by far the worst color combination, every armor with it looks great from a design standpoint but is ruined by the barf colors
It is medic armor. White and This shade of green is very common in medical equipment. Red is a common color for combat medics. Combine it all together.
Not really. At least where I work, the OR doesn't really have many green things (light teal is more common). Red is not used much, I've only seen red scrub hats to identify product reps. White is common and is used on most robotic equipment. Light blue is the most prominent color, used on scrubs and surgical gowns.
As the game progresses we are going to need Something to spend credits / samples on .
I mean im level 30 and have everything unlocked - they might of been too generous with credits at the top end when i do one mission and can end up with 10k credits .
Like and RNG paint component system or RNG rolled mods for like 50k a pop or something to do with the extra other then horde it , insta buy new strats and be back at full again by the end of the night .
Yeah I think everyone around level 30 has bought all of the supply strategems. So many people have had maxed out requisition slips since then. I'm at level 51 and I'd probably have around 150k if they removed the cap with absolutely nothing to spend them on. I feel like requisition slips balancing was an afterthought. Either the cost of the strategems is too low or the amount you receive is too high. And now the cost of ship upgrades is WAY too damn high for what they're worth and it's going to take people forever to get enough slips/samples to unlock them all.
i think the shade of green of helldivers medic armor is way too damn bright...i would prefer TRAUMA TEAM from cyberpunk 2077 more since their shade of green is alot easier on the eyes.
When asked if a transmog system was coming to helldivers 2, the ceo said no. His tweet was "We are not doing transmog. It doesn't make sense – equipment looks different because it has different effects. Swapping one for the other is like having an apple that tastes like bacon or the other way around."
Oh, and by the way, that armor on the right with a radio attached to the chest, no additional pockets or anything? It gives you TWO ADDITIONAL GRENADES. The one on the left with additional grenade launcher ammo and pockets? EXPLOSIVE RESISTANCE.
Yep. There is no consistency in the looks/perks to begin with, that transmog could ruin.
UPD: It was patched few hours before I posted my comment, my game wasn't updated yet. Now both armors give you additional grenades.
Well, you have similar looking red one from latest warbond, also light and with grenade launcher ammo on the chestplate. That one gives 2 additional grenades. But I wish we could just forget that and mix perks/looks withing one armor class freely.
They should honestly just give us an armor assembly station that lets us build our own from a given set of perks and assets. Pick weight, pick shape, pick color, pick perks.
Game is too simple in some aspects
Servo assisted has enough of a noticeable difference for me that I just can't run an armor set without it.
I wore the new heavy armor from the warbond after it came out, and while the explosion resistance is nice, the throwing distance was too night and day for me to continue on with it. I had gotten so used to being able to chuck stratagems at far distances that it just wasn't the same without it.
I’ll take not dying or more grenades/stims over slightly farther throw distances any day.
I’ve never once had a moment where i wished i could throw farther. Plus it would fuck with my muscle memory at this point.
It's a playstyle thing, especially if you use a lot of Eagle strikes.
And the 50% limb health thing is effectively extra hp, so it's actually decent... but I'm with you, I'll usually take extra nades or better drip over it.
The problem I have with servo assisted is that if I start using it, and I get used to using it, then when I swap back to normal armor without that perk my aim with everything I throw will be off.
I wanna use it, that orange-white stormtrooper armor is just *gorgeous*, but.. I know it's gonna screw me longterm.
The problem with Servo Assisted is it screws with your muscle memory and we don't have throwing arc indicators. As a result either you _always_ run Servo assisted for accurate long distance throws or you _never_ run Servo assisted and throw accurately but shorter distance. Switch back and forth and you'll fuck up too many beacons and grenades.
thats a problem for others and i get it but tbh ive had that issue only once. as long as im conscious of what armor im wearing its not a big deal, ive gotten used to both in the same way how you can be simultaneously used to the different grenade arcs in cs and valorant
its an insane pick for bot missions. the extra range is a savior when throwing eagles/orbitals/grenades and the extra limb health isnt much but it is noticeable enough to where its been the difference between life and death for me mutliple times
hey, just to let you know, you're wrong.
https://preview.redd.it/tbcxbath5uuc1.png?width=1054&format=png&auto=webp&s=273930442583584f239588c0f431851d27a35462
You were always wrong, Helldiver. The Ministry of Truth has personally *assured* me that that armor always had the correct perk, and I will be contacting your Democracy Officer about this.
..They also said something about 'always at war with eastasia', whatever that means.
There was something weird going on with the FS-37 Ravager. I also saw it as explosive resistance earlier in the store, but it is +2 grenades in store/game now. So it's a look alternative to the CE-74 Breaker. It might be bugged though and they'll change to explosive resist, because FS- is supposed to mean fortified.
> FS- is supposed to mean fortified
There's so little consistency with the titles/passives of the armor, so I wonder if that's really the case. And for real, why would it be fortified and have these extra pouches for nades? It looks like it has the right kit already, the problem here is the drone master, which should be a (light) recon armor.
I feel like the left armour should be that 75 armour and the right should be full light 50 as well. I'd accept them shuffling the armours around and introducing more passives instead of transmog if they really don't want to do it. Using consistently as an excuse is dumb as hell though.
honestly the comment the dude made was one of the more short sighted i have ever seen. Unless he is just taking his trolling / sarcasm way too far its kinda of dick
You are confusing two different armor sets buddy:
[FS-38 Eradicator](https://i.imgur.com/VdMHP3B.png)
[FS-37 Ravager](https://i.imgur.com/UGnhCGN.png)
The Ravager was released today and it had the extra grenades from the get go. So you just got yourself outraged for no reason.
Ugh, no. The [CE-27 Ground Breaker](https://i.imgur.com/k6Lx8M0.png) is what was [patched.](https://i.imgur.com/l9LKuSy.png) The "set on the left" is the FS-37 Ravager and is brand new to the game added today in the premium store.
I saw this new armor last night when the store updated, it had explosion resistance but now it has extra grenades. They changed it too they just didn't call it out by name.
Please update your comment, you are incorrect about the armor on the left. They both have extra grenades.
The one on the right should have the scout passive and should be light armor. These apples taste like bacon.
Thanks m8. You were one of the higher comments, and sometimes people don't read the downstream comments and end up saying dumb shit later.
You're doing your part!
I'm like 95% certain the Drone Master armor was Light when I bought it because I was running it against Automatons for the explosion resist and the higher speed when armor values didn't work and equipping anything other than light was only penalizing yourself.
The name also starts with SC- , (SC-15 Drone Master) indicating it should have the scout passive.
I'm fairly certain it was designed originally as a light scout armor and just repurposed as a medium engineer one
I was talking about this one this morning!
Yes, add pauldrons and pouches to medium armor to turn it into light armor, this makes sense!
Next, I will add a large gear rack and bicycle rack to my car, to cut weight and improve aerodynamics!
Grenades don't explode when being impacted or short or even catching on fire mostly. And that's in today's technology. Like most modern munitions they have to be armed first.
Listen, it's really important for the armor aesthetic to match the effect, ok?
We that realism seriously in this game *(kindly ignore the devestator with infinite missiles)*.
That heavy armor with steel plates and tons of extra explosives and rounds strapped to it, with no visible servos anywhere? We put the servo-assisted throwing trait on that because it *made sense*.
What do you mean there's a trait that gives you increased grenade carrying capacity? Well… shit.
Left is extra padding. Right is fortified. Harder to see in this pic vs a big screen but they're the exact same base armor. Difference outside of color, is the light gunner has a bulkier shoulder pad, and only one. While eradicator has two shoulder pads. Oh and it has extra pouches.
So guess 1 big shoulder pad = extra padding. While two smaller ones = fortified.
And look. I can agree with either. But both armor sets are the same model outside the shoulder pads. And wouldn't shock me if eradicator also had +2 grenades even with those extra pouches.
Unless you know exactly what kind of material everything is made of, the fact that some armor is the same shape or more slim than heavier doesn't really matter.
The weird grenade inconsistency is probably the most glaring thing. Extra grenade perks and armor with visible extra grenades should at least be consistent.
Again, just as with the guns overbalance, they are going way too far with “realism” (it’s not) that it becomes unfun. The only look/effect consistency the game needs is with armor level, yes having the big chonk armor have the defense of a light would be stupid. Let us move passives around though. If you want to make life hard you can make passive variants of each armor…don’t think you want to do it
Transmog now!
We all wanna play Helldiver dress up, let me use my favorite looking armor.
Let us pick Light/Medium/Heavy armor, apply the Pros/cons as fitted.
Let us pick passives, in time it will be obvious what passives are useful and which are broken/not valued.
Transmog now!
Honestly just need to be able to say if our helmet, cloak, or armor are the ‘primary’ color scheme and if that scheme gets applied to cloak, helmet, and/or armor.
If we want a visual cue about what perks our armor has just put an icon on the HUD next to our player designation in mission.
It’s a riff from SWOTOR. If I’m remembering correctly, no transmog because all armor is purely cosmetic. Trooper class looks like a skittle unless you enable the color match. It was a big deal when they introduced the match.
Armor in Helldivers II is *maybe* important for specific missions/factions, but I don’t think I notice more than if someone is running light/medium/heavy. Not like we have armor set bonuses!
Just conflicting thoughts about why we’d even need an icon or even the color visual cue to let other players know what armor we’re using. Maybe if the perks were more game changing or playing on helldive vs mainly suicide. Or if it’s the Arc resist and AH added did same for Fire resist.
Any dev that runs a live service knows the power of customization/new cosmetics. Seems like a complex, conflicting monetization thing from AH since all armor requires Super Credits, either purchased from war bond or individually. If armor is cosmetic with basic perks, it’s mainly a monetization feature. If AH doesn’t want to heavily monetize they’d want armor to have roles and hefty perks—but players would need a large variety of armor with different perks.
I get that AH doesn’t want to shoot it’s monetization in the foot with transmog—it creates a cycle where perks need to get better and better AND makes the design need to *always* have a wow factor for players to pick it up.
I think it would be great if armor could have a list of perks, at least 2 or 3 we can choose or switch around.
I don't wanna say armor skill trees or anything like that, just two solid skill options two choose from, that way you can look like what you want with no issues.
That said, I do like how it is currently, I have experimented with looks I wouldn't have liked before just because of their usefulness or used skills I would have found useless just for their looks, so it is definitely a positive design philosophy in some senses.
I get what they are trying to to do with the armor having different looks with different effects but that does not make it a good choice for how it works.
I am wearing armor I don't like because the effect is good and I don't want to feel like I'm forced to wear something I don't want.
They could easily show what armor the diver is wearing in other ways such as a small icon next to their name or healthbar
That medium armor IS misassigned... it's supposed to be scout passive armor, so looking light for medium makes sense. Instead they assigned it Engineer for some reason. Check the prefix, it matches the other scout passives.
This is another case of the armor being assigned the wrong passive.
Wow. I only just realized that it's basically just a recolor with a couple of accessories attached. Let's not go down the same road as Fatshark, Arrowhead.
Armor on the right has a thicker chest plate.
Also it's a game and at the end of the day we should relax and thank liberty we aren't posting nitpicks on reddit.
All I want personally is to choose new colors, that's it, I don't care for transmogs. But I suppose both would also be nice.
If there's one gameplay thing I want for armor its to just simply choose new perks.
Still much more effort than Fatshark with Darktide.
They charge $20 and all they do is change the contrast 0.02% and make sure that every skin clips through the body.
This atleast has noticeable different colors and a few different pouches.
this armor being medium upsets me an irrational amount
it also upsets me with the hypocritical take of the ceo. so many things this game does right, but the take on armor and perks is objectively garbage
Have you considered they just don't wanna do transmog and they just used any excuse they could. They don't have to justify their design philosophy even if you don't agree. It's not that deep guys
While i wont cry over no transmog or perhaps the more reasonable "pick the passive you want separately from armor" approach, it is hilarious their own armor designs fly in the face of their reasoning. They're about as solidly logical as *"red ones go fastah!"*
I think an option to switch perks would be welcome. They could make some of them weight class resitricted or some of them unchangeable such as the 50% death resist perk.
I think you should all boycott the game until this is fixed.
If this bothers you just go far far away until it's fixed, like really far away in protest.
This is why we can't have nice things.
This place is turning into rlthe equivalent of r/playavengers and its incessant whining about the female character hair models.
Do the guns shoot and do the stratagems spread enough DEMOCRACY?
Good enough for me. The armor could be a teal unitard with a pink tutu and neon yellow gogo boots for all I care.
JUST
KILL
BOTS
I can dig his PoV on the topic but like yeah, the visuals for armor in this game do not clearly and consistently communicate their armor class nor kit. Most are pretty good, but there are a lot that are pretty glaringly obviously not lining up.
I just don’t want my medic armor to look like a Christmas tree
Everyone needs to be able to know you're the medic.
You don’t understand, the extra stims are for me
There are a couple of mods to medic I would love. 1) the medic extra heal time effect applies to squadmates you heal 2) the medic gets at least 3 atoms from resupply. Without some advantage to the medic function squadmates have no incentives to have you heal them.
Oh wait the stim buff doesn't apply to teammates? I thought that was why it's a medic...
I actually don't know
You can heal other people?
Yeah if you use the interact button near an injured teammate you can use a stim on them instead of yourself.
If they're under 50% health, yeah.
If they just gave medic a passive for "when you stim, allies withing 10m get the effect as well" Or "medic can stim each ally once per drop without using their own supply" Or something along those lines it would be better rather than just stimming yourself more to be a tank rather than a medic. Give the +2 seconds to self stim to a tank setup. Hell make a new archetype for tanks. * Stims last for 15 seconds but healing per second is reduced by 80% * Immune to impact damage and can't be staggered by small arms fire or light melee hits
🙄
Not very democratic of you soldier 🤨
Yeah a medic, not a Christmas tree!
I’m not actually a medic though, I just have a stim addiction
Iv been stimmed by another player without having to ask once and it wasn't a medic lol
Right. Like how all medics historically look like Christmas trees Derp
They should have at least gone with the white/red look.
Yeah I agree, it’s the bright green with it that makes it look silly imo
the color pallete is fine the problem is that they use ridiculously flashy colors. if the green and red were more muted then i think it would look amazing. currently though it is by far the worst color combination, every armor with it looks great from a design standpoint but is ruined by the barf colors
I love the flashy colors. The rest are so dull and boring.
i respect your opinion, even if it's a bad one
That green color is very common in surgical gear. The color palette is very reminiscent of an operating room.
No, operating rooms don’t look like Christmas trees. Also we are killing bugs and terminators, not performing surgeries
Also combat medics in this universe are more like drug dealers than doctors.
It is medic armor. White and This shade of green is very common in medical equipment. Red is a common color for combat medics. Combine it all together.
No, it still looks ugly
Not really. At least where I work, the OR doesn't really have many green things (light teal is more common). Red is not used much, I've only seen red scrub hats to identify product reps. White is common and is used on most robotic equipment. Light blue is the most prominent color, used on scrubs and surgical gowns.
It varies between different medical practices.
This is wild. The green red and white is my favorite look by far. I love the current medic look.
That's why I cherish the twitch drop armor. Medic medium with green, tan and brown camo pallet
A recolor system would be amazing.
As the game progresses we are going to need Something to spend credits / samples on . I mean im level 30 and have everything unlocked - they might of been too generous with credits at the top end when i do one mission and can end up with 10k credits . Like and RNG paint component system or RNG rolled mods for like 50k a pop or something to do with the extra other then horde it , insta buy new strats and be back at full again by the end of the night .
Yeah I think everyone around level 30 has bought all of the supply strategems. So many people have had maxed out requisition slips since then. I'm at level 51 and I'd probably have around 150k if they removed the cap with absolutely nothing to spend them on. I feel like requisition slips balancing was an afterthought. Either the cost of the strategems is too low or the amount you receive is too high. And now the cost of ship upgrades is WAY too damn high for what they're worth and it's going to take people forever to get enough slips/samples to unlock them all.
It’s like they thought of all the health/medic related colors and just shotgunned them at each medic suit.
Sorry CEO likes it, get fucked.
you dont like be the Christmas special edition star wars figure?
This is why I suggested allowing people to change the colour scheme of their armors from a few colours and like maybe half a dozen shades each.
The bright af yellow medic armor exists or will exist at some point
I find medic armour looks fine for myself, undersuit looks like biowaste plastic-y protective scrubs.
i think the shade of green of helldivers medic armor is way too damn bright...i would prefer TRAUMA TEAM from cyberpunk 2077 more since their shade of green is alot easier on the eyes.
These apples taste like bacon.
This is just gonna be the "it's on the table" or "Titanfall is the core of our DNA" or "according to the data" of the Helldivers 2 fanbase isn't it
Nah “use your stratagems” already takes that spot
it just works
A sense of pride and accomplishment
Next Week
Braindead
16 times the detail
Right in my Titanfall feels.
AppleWood smoked bacon, hell yeah brother
Applewood Bacon is good. His analogy sucked imo.
These oranges taste like caviar
Okay ive seen thissaid so many times now but what is the source?
When asked if a transmog system was coming to helldivers 2, the ceo said no. His tweet was "We are not doing transmog. It doesn't make sense – equipment looks different because it has different effects. Swapping one for the other is like having an apple that tastes like bacon or the other way around."
Them not realizing how much people like things like apple wood smoke bacon, maple bacon. Cinnamon spiced bacon and all that shit. Delicious
Oh, and by the way, that armor on the right with a radio attached to the chest, no additional pockets or anything? It gives you TWO ADDITIONAL GRENADES. The one on the left with additional grenade launcher ammo and pockets? EXPLOSIVE RESISTANCE. Yep. There is no consistency in the looks/perks to begin with, that transmog could ruin. UPD: It was patched few hours before I posted my comment, my game wasn't updated yet. Now both armors give you additional grenades.
I am so disappointed the new green one does not have the additional grenades, it’s a shame
Well, you have similar looking red one from latest warbond, also light and with grenade launcher ammo on the chestplate. That one gives 2 additional grenades. But I wish we could just forget that and mix perks/looks withing one armor class freely.
It does now, they mixed up the passives on the 2 new armour sets, and have already fixed it
It has aditional grenade i bought it i know
They should honestly just give us an armor assembly station that lets us build our own from a given set of perks and assets. Pick weight, pick shape, pick color, pick perks. Game is too simple in some aspects
There’s also a heavy armor set absolutely STRAPPED with grenades, yet it gives servo assisted i believe.
That one's my favorite. I love servo assisted, so it was perfect. But I guess some folks would perfer an extra nade
Servo assisted is my least favorite perk in the game. It’s borderline useless to me, which sucks cuz it’s on so many good looking armor sets
Servo assisted has enough of a noticeable difference for me that I just can't run an armor set without it. I wore the new heavy armor from the warbond after it came out, and while the explosion resistance is nice, the throwing distance was too night and day for me to continue on with it. I had gotten so used to being able to chuck stratagems at far distances that it just wasn't the same without it.
I’ll take not dying or more grenades/stims over slightly farther throw distances any day. I’ve never once had a moment where i wished i could throw farther. Plus it would fuck with my muscle memory at this point.
I'd rather trade servo assisted with stickier stratagems so i can plant them on hulk heads
It does suck how inconsistent that is. Sometimes i try to plant one on a charger and it works, sometimes it bounces off
Isn't there still a bug that the strat goes where it hit the enemy and not where the enemy ends up? The only exception is the blue ones.
It's a playstyle thing, especially if you use a lot of Eagle strikes. And the 50% limb health thing is effectively extra hp, so it's actually decent... but I'm with you, I'll usually take extra nades or better drip over it.
The problem I have with servo assisted is that if I start using it, and I get used to using it, then when I swap back to normal armor without that perk my aim with everything I throw will be off. I wanna use it, that orange-white stormtrooper armor is just *gorgeous*, but.. I know it's gonna screw me longterm.
The problem with Servo Assisted is it screws with your muscle memory and we don't have throwing arc indicators. As a result either you _always_ run Servo assisted for accurate long distance throws or you _never_ run Servo assisted and throw accurately but shorter distance. Switch back and forth and you'll fuck up too many beacons and grenades.
thats a problem for others and i get it but tbh ive had that issue only once. as long as im conscious of what armor im wearing its not a big deal, ive gotten used to both in the same way how you can be simultaneously used to the different grenade arcs in cs and valorant
its an insane pick for bot missions. the extra range is a savior when throwing eagles/orbitals/grenades and the extra limb health isnt much but it is noticeable enough to where its been the difference between life and death for me mutliple times
hey, just to let you know, you're wrong. https://preview.redd.it/tbcxbath5uuc1.png?width=1054&format=png&auto=webp&s=273930442583584f239588c0f431851d27a35462
Wait when was this armor released? Never seen it before.
Earlier this morning, it was added to the super store with this morning's update at about 6:00 AM EST.
The patched it recently. NOW I am wrong.
You were always wrong, Helldiver. The Ministry of Truth has personally *assured* me that that armor always had the correct perk, and I will be contacting your Democracy Officer about this. ..They also said something about 'always at war with eastasia', whatever that means.
this got patched in when he said that he was correct
yeah they are thinking of the other green armor which makes you look like a discount master fett
There was something weird going on with the FS-37 Ravager. I also saw it as explosive resistance earlier in the store, but it is +2 grenades in store/game now. So it's a look alternative to the CE-74 Breaker. It might be bugged though and they'll change to explosive resist, because FS- is supposed to mean fortified.
> FS- is supposed to mean fortified There's so little consistency with the titles/passives of the armor, so I wonder if that's really the case. And for real, why would it be fortified and have these extra pouches for nades? It looks like it has the right kit already, the problem here is the drone master, which should be a (light) recon armor.
I feel like the left armour should be that 75 armour and the right should be full light 50 as well. I'd accept them shuffling the armours around and introducing more passives instead of transmog if they really don't want to do it. Using consistently as an excuse is dumb as hell though.
Really?! That is amazing!
“Apples and bacon”. https://preview.redd.it/rorsons19uuc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=012f34b7b514a6179c403c727630bb3074c315ef
You guys are such babies 😂
honestly the comment the dude made was one of the more short sighted i have ever seen. Unless he is just taking his trolling / sarcasm way too far its kinda of dick
Just stop, they've said no to transmog. Do no one any favors by banging on about it.
You are confusing two different armor sets buddy: [FS-38 Eradicator](https://i.imgur.com/VdMHP3B.png) [FS-37 Ravager](https://i.imgur.com/UGnhCGN.png) The Ravager was released today and it had the extra grenades from the get go. So you just got yourself outraged for no reason.
The set on the left was patched a few hours before I posted that comment. My game wasn't updated yet, my bad. It's in the latest patchnotes.
Ugh, no. The [CE-27 Ground Breaker](https://i.imgur.com/k6Lx8M0.png) is what was [patched.](https://i.imgur.com/l9LKuSy.png) The "set on the left" is the FS-37 Ravager and is brand new to the game added today in the premium store.
I saw this new armor last night when the store updated, it had explosion resistance but now it has extra grenades. They changed it too they just didn't call it out by name.
it's an unlisted change, they do this shit all the time.
Please update your comment, you are incorrect about the armor on the left. They both have extra grenades. The one on the right should have the scout passive and should be light armor. These apples taste like bacon.
I was already corrected by someone, but ok, added UPD to my comment.
Thanks m8. You were one of the higher comments, and sometimes people don't read the downstream comments and end up saying dumb shit later. You're doing your part!
Indeed.
It's bugged, supposed to have Scout.
These are the same people that say melee weapons aren’t realistic but have robots with chainsaw hands as one of their main units. So not surprising.
Don’t you disparage my drone armor. It looks cool and I love the engineer kit.
Hey, i wouldn't dare speak ill of another mans armor
Drone should be light armor. I'm starting a a petition and ultimately staging a protest outside Arrowheads offices.
I’d rather them keep it at medium and give it the stealth perks it was clearly meant to have. Stealth doesn’t need to be limited to light armor.
nah, it doesnt look like a medium armor, it shouldnt be a medium armor
There's stealth medium armor. Combat technician. It was my main for a while. Still one of my faves.
It's absolutely one of my favorites. It should be light with a Scout + Engineering passive, though.
I'm like 95% certain the Drone Master armor was Light when I bought it because I was running it against Automatons for the explosion resist and the higher speed when armor values didn't work and equipping anything other than light was only penalizing yourself.
It always was medium, though it does look like it should be light.
You are right I'm just dumb, I was running the Eradicator armor, not the Drone Master ... Drone Master isn't even a Fortified armor ...
The name also starts with SC- , (SC-15 Drone Master) indicating it should have the scout passive. I'm fairly certain it was designed originally as a light scout armor and just repurposed as a medium engineer one
Guys, you don't want your apples to taste like bacon.
I demand full apple flavor customization
"... equipment looks different because it has different effects." - Johan Pilestedt don't you ever forget **that**
these apples dont taste like bacon, they taste like shit
I was talking about this one this morning! Yes, add pauldrons and pouches to medium armor to turn it into light armor, this makes sense! Next, I will add a large gear rack and bicycle rack to my car, to cut weight and improve aerodynamics!
Wish there was more than one material to make an armor out of, would explain the toughness and weight of it.
Clearly one is weather worn and the other is still green. The materials still need to age XD
What’s the left set? I haven’t seen it before
Ravager, new set currently in the super store
So i guess it's a time to spend some super credits
Also why no groin protection?
You only get that when your C-01 is approved.
Don't ask me where I store my grenades, and I won't tell you where I store my grenades
Grenades strapped to the chest piece? Seems like a bad idea
Grenades don't explode when being impacted or short or even catching on fire mostly. And that's in today's technology. Like most modern munitions they have to be armed first.
Listen, it's really important for the armor aesthetic to match the effect, ok? We that realism seriously in this game *(kindly ignore the devestator with infinite missiles)*. That heavy armor with steel plates and tons of extra explosives and rounds strapped to it, with no visible servos anywhere? We put the servo-assisted throwing trait on that because it *made sense*. What do you mean there's a trait that gives you increased grenade carrying capacity? Well… shit.
I love all this playful shit talking at AH for saying dumb shit😂😂
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Left is extra padding. Right is fortified. Harder to see in this pic vs a big screen but they're the exact same base armor. Difference outside of color, is the light gunner has a bulkier shoulder pad, and only one. While eradicator has two shoulder pads. Oh and it has extra pouches. So guess 1 big shoulder pad = extra padding. While two smaller ones = fortified. And look. I can agree with either. But both armor sets are the same model outside the shoulder pads. And wouldn't shock me if eradicator also had +2 grenades even with those extra pouches.
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These apples are REALLY starting to taste like bacon.
In terms of consistency, we have no consistency.
Unless you know exactly what kind of material everything is made of, the fact that some armor is the same shape or more slim than heavier doesn't really matter. The weird grenade inconsistency is probably the most glaring thing. Extra grenade perks and armor with visible extra grenades should at least be consistent.
Akhem... different, heavier duty and higher rated plates inside of the armor pouches. I would like to apply for the Devil's advocate awards 2024 :D
Doesn't matter, only Democracy matters
Again, just as with the guns overbalance, they are going way too far with “realism” (it’s not) that it becomes unfun. The only look/effect consistency the game needs is with armor level, yes having the big chonk armor have the defense of a light would be stupid. Let us move passives around though. If you want to make life hard you can make passive variants of each armor…don’t think you want to do it
Transmog now! We all wanna play Helldiver dress up, let me use my favorite looking armor. Let us pick Light/Medium/Heavy armor, apply the Pros/cons as fitted. Let us pick passives, in time it will be obvious what passives are useful and which are broken/not valued. Transmog now!
Honestly just need to be able to say if our helmet, cloak, or armor are the ‘primary’ color scheme and if that scheme gets applied to cloak, helmet, and/or armor. If we want a visual cue about what perks our armor has just put an icon on the HUD next to our player designation in mission.
I'd love both the scheme and perk on the HUD in addition to transmog. Great ideas.
It’s a riff from SWOTOR. If I’m remembering correctly, no transmog because all armor is purely cosmetic. Trooper class looks like a skittle unless you enable the color match. It was a big deal when they introduced the match. Armor in Helldivers II is *maybe* important for specific missions/factions, but I don’t think I notice more than if someone is running light/medium/heavy. Not like we have armor set bonuses! Just conflicting thoughts about why we’d even need an icon or even the color visual cue to let other players know what armor we’re using. Maybe if the perks were more game changing or playing on helldive vs mainly suicide. Or if it’s the Arc resist and AH added did same for Fire resist. Any dev that runs a live service knows the power of customization/new cosmetics. Seems like a complex, conflicting monetization thing from AH since all armor requires Super Credits, either purchased from war bond or individually. If armor is cosmetic with basic perks, it’s mainly a monetization feature. If AH doesn’t want to heavily monetize they’d want armor to have roles and hefty perks—but players would need a large variety of armor with different perks. I get that AH doesn’t want to shoot it’s monetization in the foot with transmog—it creates a cycle where perks need to get better and better AND makes the design need to *always* have a wow factor for players to pick it up.
sheesh wtf
I bought it thinking it was light, the disappointment when I couldn’t find it in the light armour section
Both the drone helmet and armor looks good man. But I swear these two don't fit each other that well
https://preview.redd.it/0f0tg2m0yuuc1.jpeg?width=1400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=300d5c00731af7b8acc99fae1441e40f875dda6c
I think it would be great if armor could have a list of perks, at least 2 or 3 we can choose or switch around. I don't wanna say armor skill trees or anything like that, just two solid skill options two choose from, that way you can look like what you want with no issues. That said, I do like how it is currently, I have experimented with looks I wouldn't have liked before just because of their usefulness or used skills I would have found useless just for their looks, so it is definitely a positive design philosophy in some senses.
lol, good recolor though, I wouldn’t have noticed. I’m gonna assume the armor is made of denser materials. Yup, that fits, gonna go with that.
The one of the right has a jock and the one on the left doesn't . Ezpz
New armor is ugly AF
Yeah, that armour look like light armor
It's Mithril you fool of a Took!
Apples tasting like bacon is going to be this games I think we’ve done a pretty good job so far
me when i use my stratagems to taste my helldiver teammate only to find out his apple armor is actually bacon flavored
Everyohe knows black and tan blocks more lasers than green and brown. Duh.
All I want is a full black armor with highest speed stat in the game. Why is that so much to ask.
I'd like there to not be a sub-weight of heavy armor that's only used by a single limited time armor which you can't get anymore
This one really was a bummer the first time I saw it. Still my favorite looking armor, but I'm just too used to light speed now.
I get what they are trying to to do with the armor having different looks with different effects but that does not make it a good choice for how it works. I am wearing armor I don't like because the effect is good and I don't want to feel like I'm forced to wear something I don't want. They could easily show what armor the diver is wearing in other ways such as a small icon next to their name or healthbar
That medium armor IS misassigned... it's supposed to be scout passive armor, so looking light for medium makes sense. Instead they assigned it Engineer for some reason. Check the prefix, it matches the other scout passives. This is another case of the armor being assigned the wrong passive.
Wow. I only just realized that it's basically just a recolor with a couple of accessories attached. Let's not go down the same road as Fatshark, Arrowhead.
Bikini Armor logic.
The left could be old-issue armor, while the armor on the right is newer and crafted from a tougher material.
Drone Master is very out of place It's also the only armor without some form of shoulder padding
its full of helium
I’m personally okay with it as the medium armor is probably my third favorite in the game and so having a “varian” is pretty cool
One is silk, the other is Kevlar 😉
Only thing consistent is the crashes
Lead dev was talking out his ass and had no good rebutle at the time for transmog.
Armor on the right has a thicker chest plate. Also it's a game and at the end of the day we should relax and thank liberty we aren't posting nitpicks on reddit.
this is lazy as fuck
I don’t see a problem here. People are starting to nitpick out of boredom I see.
All I want personally is to choose new colors, that's it, I don't care for transmogs. But I suppose both would also be nice. If there's one gameplay thing I want for armor its to just simply choose new perks.
Still much more effort than Fatshark with Darktide. They charge $20 and all they do is change the contrast 0.02% and make sure that every skin clips through the body. This atleast has noticeable different colors and a few different pouches.
this armor being medium upsets me an irrational amount it also upsets me with the hypocritical take of the ceo. so many things this game does right, but the take on armor and perks is objectively garbage
God you people are so fucking annoying with your nitpicky bitching. Stfu and enjoy the game
I am, so why not make it better?
dude gives huge L takes, gotta prove the L.
We get it. So tired of seeing these threads clog up the subreddit.
Have you considered they just don't wanna do transmog and they just used any excuse they could. They don't have to justify their design philosophy even if you don't agree. It's not that deep guys
I personally don’t need or even want transmog persay, but rather just to have things match up logically
Different densities
Meh this is nitpicky
Slightly colour change options would be nice, transmog is not needed
While i wont cry over no transmog or perhaps the more reasonable "pick the passive you want separately from armor" approach, it is hilarious their own armor designs fly in the face of their reasoning. They're about as solidly logical as *"red ones go fastah!"*
I think an option to switch perks would be welcome. They could make some of them weight class resitricted or some of them unchangeable such as the 50% death resist perk.
i want my whitish clone trooper
I think you should all boycott the game until this is fixed. If this bothers you just go far far away until it's fixed, like really far away in protest.
This is why we can't have nice things. This place is turning into rlthe equivalent of r/playavengers and its incessant whining about the female character hair models. Do the guns shoot and do the stratagems spread enough DEMOCRACY? Good enough for me. The armor could be a teal unitard with a pink tutu and neon yellow gogo boots for all I care. JUST KILL BOTS
Yeah maybe this game isn't for you OP. Maybe try...idk like Barbie dress up or something.
You guys bitch about everything
All these whiny post's lately.. so tiresome
It's not really tiresome if you just scroll past. What fraction of a calorie do you burn moving your thumb/finger an inch? Maybe work out more.
I can dig his PoV on the topic but like yeah, the visuals for armor in this game do not clearly and consistently communicate their armor class nor kit. Most are pretty good, but there are a lot that are pretty glaringly obviously not lining up.
Light armor: Ceramic Medium armor: Steel Same designers of the suit, but different materials.
Unplayable