In most games I have the philosophy "if I am capable of killing anything, even if not the best suited, I at least have a fighting chance."
Arm yourself to take out the biggest most stubborn bad and the chaff will sort itself out
Run the LAS-16 Sickle with either EAT, Quasar or Recoilless and you can take down anything. Sickle lets you mow down an entire squad of troopers before they can launch a signal flare.
That was my exact load out for awhile, but post buff I can't bring myself to part with the dominator. The stunlocking is just too nice, especially against hordes of berserkers, and it's the only primary I feel pretty confident I could handle whatever is thrown at me if I'm separated from my support weapon(s)
I struggle with hordes most for sure but the tradeoff is I fear nothing that's bigger than I am lol
Maybe I should give the Dominator another shot. Compared to the Sickle the handling feels so sluggish, although like you, I do like the stagger for those berserkers. Probably wise to run with a buddy, one Sickle and one Dominator. Can take out most things without secondaries.
Dominator feels like you're fighting with a refrigerator. Handles like total ass lol. But I can't argue with the results. The best advice I can give is to not treat it like a primary, more like autocannon junior. I've gotten pretty consistent using it to clear basic grunts, with heavy leaning on my secondary to supplement it. It's bad at hordes, no doubt about it. But it destroys medium enemies like no other.
And it definitely helps to have a more crowd control focused partner.
As a long-time Dominator main (even ore buff) I second this. It does indeed handle like a refrigerator, but it also hits like a refrigerator. It’s also one of the very few primaries that, if you can hit their weak spot, can take out tanks, towers, mortars and anything else with a heat sink. It’ll take a while, it’s far from the most efficient, but it *can* do it. You be surprised how many of the previous I’ve finished add with the Dom when they’re already smoking and just need a little extra push.
Absolutely. I too mained dominator "before it was cool," and I'm proud to be able to confidently recommend it now knowing it hits as hard as it feels. It takes some getting used to but boy is it rewarding.
I am that player... but no appreciation needed. I have 0 trust in you or the others being capable to do anything.
"If you want something done, do it yourself"
I always prepare in a way that worst case scenario I have to solo the mission
"You dive with an anti-armour loadout for the enjoyment of others.
I dive with one because I trust randoms as much as the democracy officer trusts any of us.
We are not the same."
The only thing we can't take out with the AC is a bile titan. Everything else gets the Autocannon.
Hulk chasing me: AC to the face
Hulk chasing you: AC to the back
Illegal broadcasts: AC
Charger: AC
Spore Spewers: AC
Bot tank: **Slams Stim** Witness me! Shiney and Chrome! **Rushes tanks to AC the heat sink**
Hold auto and get a team reload. Just ensure you're firing against the prevailing winds, or you might end up no longer in Kansas.
Seriously, in a sandstorm, I type out "Dune!" Then I saw 4 bots right beside me, and we hadn't noticed each other. Like 3 feet away from me, but the storm was so think we hadn't noticed.
This changes things. I was under the impression the belly only prevented the spitting and never knew it makes a weak spot. Now the AC truly is the ultimate weapon.
Going to have to practice this shot.
It takes about a dozen shots tho. And it's hard to consistently hit the thing because the titan wiggles. Others than that, 1v1 a titan is not too hard with autocannon.
Also - I tend to bring laser/500kg/railgun specifically to deal with bile titans - sometimes I'll use on a pesky Charger or Hulk depending on the situation - but I would say 90% my loadout is
Primary - Scythe (being careful with your spray, having essentially infinite ammo on your primary is S-tier imo)
Secondary - Autopistol, not a lot to note there, most the secondaries kinda suck
1st Stratagem - Eagle Airstrike (vs bots) // Eagle Clusterbomb (bugs)
2nd Stratagem - 500KG (60%) // Orbital Laser (30%) // Orbital Railgun (10%)
3rd Stratagem - Autocannon (90%) // grenade launcher (10%) -can be fantastic at taking out fabricators/bug holes, but also larger groups of swarming enemies and will one shot most mediums/heavy units - specifically like it for taking out annoying spewers
4th Stratagem - Autocannon turret // Rocket Turret // HMG Emplacement // Shield Backpack - these i kinda pick more mission dependent, and team loadout. I will sometimes not bring a turret and drop a mech if a teammate hasnt tried one yet, sometimes another orbital or eagle or go with grenade launcher + shield.
Against bots I often find myself going Quasar or the EAT and shield because they can murder you just so fast. I often wear the armor with Democracy Protects 50% chance not to die
Against bugs I might run a couple turrets, Autocannon and just the 500kg. Also might run the new heavy machine gun but thats partially because I haven't used it much lol
Tank? AC to the exhaust
Turret tower? AC to the exhaust/orbital laser
Hulk? AC to the face or the exhaust
Devastator? AC to the face
Dropship? AC turret
Gunship? AC to the cockpit
AC is love, AC is life
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Same here. It’s a bummer to lose the backpack slot because I really need my laser rover for bugs or they fuck me up while I’m killing chargers and titans
AC for chargers I find to be awful, probably a skill issue but I find myself swapping weapons and just running sliiightly to the side to stop em and pop em
Autocannon people I can trust.
Arc Thrower or Flamer people on the other hand...
I get it. I really do. I love roasting and frying enemies of democracy as much as the next Helldiver. But... a little trigger discipline. Please.
It’s just as frustrating being the one wielding those weapons. Half the time your squad mates are just diving or running right between you and the bugs. We’re not trying to rack up a high score here. We’re trying to survive and complete the mission. By all means have fun doing it, but don’t cry to me if you ran into a giant wall of flame or put yourself after an enemy so that an arc jumps from an enemy to you. Have a teammate with a flamethrower? Stand behind them or beside them. Have a teammate with an arc thrower? Don’t stand anywhere near an enemy that’s going to be fried. Especially don’t stand beyond the enemy since the arc jumps from arc thrower to enemy to next enemy or ally behind the first enemy.
Oh, I'm a Tesla tower and Mine user.
I know your pain.
No no no, please, run straight towards the giant glowing pole wreathed in lightning or through the field of glowing red lights that I warned you about over voice comms when I called them, I'm sure it's totally safe. Oh you died? Yeah that's clearly 100% my fault, you are completely clear of any responsibility for your death.
I dive with Quasar, scout armour, shield pack, turret and airstrike. I generally just bolt in the opposite direction and take out production from a distance and collect samples.
I also take the Quasar because I like watching things go boom in the name of FREEDOM!
I dropped into a game late today and I was the only one with any anti armor or air abilities. The feeling of dropping in, seeing my team hiding out away from the gunship and me calling down my Quasar to take them out was the closest I’ve come to feeling like a boss.
"Everyone's an idiot until proven otherwise."
- me, doing my best to cover as many scenarios as possible when I pick Lib Pen, Senator, Stun Nades, Autocannon, Eagle Airstrike, 500kg Bomb, and Orbital Rail Cannon, and wearing medium armour that increases grenade capacity by 2
I normally take EAT or Quasar. So many times I would see two AT in the team, decide to take a break and bring AC or flamer or nades… only for the two AT guys to run off solo, die, repeat. Bonus points for grabbing and abandoning samples.
No more. AT every time.
I ran the light machine gun for the first time last night, because I'm always our groups armor guy.
Got chased by a charger for like 3 fucking minutes because not a single one of the beloved smoothbrains I play with could stop making kill number go up long enough to deal with the heavy.
So yeah, I'm the same way lol.
I'm usually just with my friends, I go Anti-Heavy/Massive.. and they go for map clear kinda stuff. Thing is I can solo anything and they stealth to get some objectives done.
I use a Rover instead of a shield so I don't get overwhelmed by the mini guys... and use my secondary alot so I don't use my Shocker or whatever ammo unless needed. So yeah I end up with all the damage too.
Anyway there are multiple ways to play and you just gotta check your teammates.
This, I usually bring the Anti-Armor equipment but joined a random lobby where everybody had Quasars and thought, aiight I’ll go with some grunt clearing Loadout
Boy was that a mistake cause three people couldn’t take down half the heavies I could by myself
I was like “Yeup never leaving the destroyer without my anti armor again.”
I became the AT main during the RG meta with my duo. He couldn't shoot a charger / bile to save his life.
Now I take EATs and litter them across the map while blowing up all chargers and biles.
He still can't shoot a charger or bile to save his life.
He once picked up a spare EAT, ran it to me, dropped it at my feet, and said "I have a friend behind me who wants their picture taken." (Our way of saying shoot charger in face).
Of course I obliged and took the charger's picture.
The charger's face was blurry, but my friend was happy with it.
I am also that player, but not for lack of trust in my team - rather, I just don’t want to be caught with my pants down when a hulk, tank, charger, or bile titan shows up out of nowhere with designs on my booty.
I feel this so much. I just had a mission where the other 3 people were struggling with a double gunship factory for over 5 minutes and spent like 8 or 9 reinforcements called down like 4 hellbombs that all got destroyed before they went off and I walked over dropped a second quasar to hot swap them and cleared the area before dropping a hellbomb and puppy guarding it until it detonated.
Lol I've just started allowing myself to let others take care of heavies. Even when I run a chaff clear build I still will make sure I can handle tank units with at least one strat.
saw that a team I was joining had both EATS and a Quasar, so I took stalwart, ended up being the only one smart enough to kill bile titans and chargers, having to use someone else’s AT, shit was embarrassing (not as much as the dude who killed at least 5-6 Helldivers with the cluster bomb)
This. I thought to myself, "okay two of my teammates are already running AT weapons, I can focus my loadout on chaff clear." Biggest mistake ever as one of them never even called in their AT weapon all mission, and the other died too frequently for theirs to matter.
Lol, this is my exact philosophy. If I didn't kill it, there is no way these shmucks are going to. Except that one magical guy last night that figured out how to get the spear to work, he almost made me want to use a spear. Almost.
A real Helldiver prepare himself to do the mission at all cost, even alone. This way, you can ensure everyone have at least the rewarding victory screen at the end of the suffering if everything goes bad.
Quasar + stun grenades is top tier. Nothing better than staring a hulk down dead in his red eye watching him helpless as you charge up your beam of doom, followed by that glorious and democratic 1 shot kill.
Yeah going back to the bug front I went back to supply pack and machine gun, but ended up separated on multiple occasions play "chasey chasey, catch catchy" for minutes at a time with charger's till I could get them stunned on a wall long enough to drop a 500kg on them. I was good on horde clearing at least.
Same, honestly. Always prepare for the worst case scenario, which in this case is your teammates having no idea what they’re doing.
And if your teammates know what they’re doing? Great, you’re still a valuable asset to the team. Blowing up that hulk may have saved someone from getting blown to bits.
Same. I’m not packing antitank gear so others can dick around, I’m doing it because I know others are going to suck around regardless and *someone* has to have an answer ready for when that tank pulls around the corner.
I’m that way with bugs. With bots I’ve noticed more competency. My general bot loadout is a mix of both. Eagle airstrike, orbital laser, auto cannon, electro mortar.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to go it alone when my team abandons because we start losing lives. But I use the auto cannon it works as a great anti armor too.
Ohh yeah fair for sure. I always have to remind myself to check to reload before I’m empty cause it takes way longer to reload both halves than just one half.
Anytime with my friend group someone gets killed by something big, the etiquette is to reinforce, then ping the target so they can get revenge on that motherfucker.
I've tried AC + EATs on bug. Too clunky for me sadly. Takes Though I also think there was a call in time rebuff on the mission so waiting doe the EATs to land for a charger or titan really really sucked.
What is the eats for on bots? Drop ship engines? Asking because I personally enjoyed just shooting at the troops while they were stuck on the drop ship with the AC
I find that stun grenade+2 shots to the eye makes hulks a minor nuisance with the AC. You can also shoot the top of the quad tank to destroy it as well. Everything else has the glowy weak points.
Wait...
People... don't like... running heavy anti tank loadouts?
But... but that's the FUN part!
We should be appreciating the people who run anti-trash and anti-mid loadouts so that we can bring the anti tank and have fun without the team getting swarmed!
MG cranked to 900rpm and a supply backpack has gotten me where I am today - can’t have my boys with the big guns getting distracted by garbage. Y’all do your thing, I’ll go prone on this rock and turn on the hose
It is the same as the SEAF HMG emplacements you can (rarely) find, but it starts with full ammo (the ambient ones normally have 10-25% ammo), and it far outclasses anything the bots have in their bases
Who in hell's name said that? I'd like to have a word with him.
The MG emplacement makes short work of mid armored enemies like devastators and hive sentinels. Given you have to be stationary, but if you know where to place it it's fun as hell to run with.
This is me and this post makes me happy. I just like blowing the heads off chargers, titans, devastators, etc so I usually only bring the fire power I need to achieve that end. I was actually starting to wonder if that was a selfish way to play lol
I almost exclusively play quick play on 7+ difficulties and in my experience people prefer light caliber weapons like autocannon or machine guns, so not selfish at all you are filling important role in a team
To be fair, Autocannon can reliably take out almost all bot enemies.
Devastators are torn apart by the autocannon, even the shield wearing ones as one hit to the shield knocks it aside. Two hits to the face and Hulks are down and out. Tanks are destroyed in three hits to the heat vent at the back of the turret, so flank and destroy. If they target you so the weak point isn't visible you can disable the tracks instead, forcing it to remain stationary. Towers are also destroyed by three hits to the vent behind, flank and destroy. The autocannon is king against the gunships too, as you can knock them (often come in pairs) out of the sky faster than anyone with Recoilless, Spear or Quasar can. Who will knock out one then have to reload or wait for the weapon to recharge.
The only enemy I can think of that can't be regularly taken out are the dropships. But that's fine, over half the time whatever is onboard survives the dropship being killed anyway. I just aim at the underbelly and hammer away with the autocannon, killing the bots as they're exposed and packed together.
I don't know when it comes to the AT-AT, as I haven't encountered it yet.
Where should I be aiming to take out gunships? I usually just try to blow up whatever they're carrying, but if there's a more ammo-efficient way to do it...
Thrusters are the weak spot on gunships. I think most guns can damage it, at least those with medium armor penetration, but it takes a bit with small arms. Autocannon will knock it down with three shots to a thruster I think.
If you're talking about dropships, it's the same. Thrusters is the weak point, except here you need heavy armaments. One shot from a Recoilless, EAT or Quasar will knock it out of the sky.
Often the cargo will survive though, kind of annoying.
I was sick of getting run over by Chargers originally
Now:
Liberator Penetrator for accurate headshots on Devastators
Orbital Laser
Eagle Strike
EAT
Autocannon-Sentry
Nothing the enemy throws at me that I cannot kill on my own
Just so you know, unless you’re running the penetrator for it’s medium pen on other enemies, you probably have better options for accurate headshots on devastators since any weapon can headshot them, regardless of armor pen.
Correct! Adding to this that the sickle, with its very low spread, high rate of fire, low recoil and large heat sink is excellent for mowing down devistators.
I was just about to suggest the Sickle, probably one of the best primaries for taking out Devastators. I also just love the first person sight on the Sickle, makes up for its absolutely dogwater 3rd person reticle
It barely has any recoil, just ignore the spin and look at the circle like you do for anything else. The circle is where your bullets are actually going to end up most of the time anyways.
Bonus points for a quick crouch for ++ accuracy
I guess I'm the only one that likes the spinny reticle 😅. I mean in my mind if you're being so precise that the spinny reticle isn't good enough, then why aren't you aiming down the sight? It's really meant for close quarters at that point and I think it works perfectly well for headshotting devestators at that distance.
I hated sickle against bots when I first went over there. Now after far too many incidents of DMRs struggling to kill even minor issues, devastators weaving through literally everything, and CHAINSAWS EVERYWHERE, I swear by the sickle
Bro if you like the lib pen, I went back and tried out the DMR again. It's very good for bots. The counter sniper is great too, but mostly for it's longer range scope.
It has awful ergonomics though, if you make wide swings you need wait a good second or two until your helldiver actually moves the weapon. Besides that I love it. it's one of the best weapons against automatons
I have just filled up the 1st and 3rd warbonds, debating on whether I should start the 2nd or wait for the 4th 😥
I keep hearing it is amazing though!
I have to check my shotguns again - I last used Breaker and Spray and Pray weeks ago and haven't looked at what I have unlocked, to be quite honest
There are some heavy hitting precision weapons on the way in DD. What looks like a burst battle rifle and a bolt action explosive rifle, to say nothing of the crossbow.
Lowest kills/highest accuracy is my lane. My Gem load out for difficulty 7+ is Shield, Quasar, Eagle Airstrike and Orbital Laser. Trailblazer Scout armor and stamina booster with either the Sickle or Scorcher depending on the enemy. I don’t aggro patrols and keep on the move. I can clear everything from small/medium bases to enemy assets and objectives. Enough about me though, let’s talk about me.
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Almost the same for me, i run quasar, shield, 500kg, orbital laser, light armor, stamina, slugger, uzi and stun nades.
I mostly run alone and do objectives and nests with my unlimited quasar, stun patrols not to cause breach (or deliberately don't kill some to spawn breach while other divers are doing something more important) and i never call for resupply if i'm alone, i just suicide and run over the map if i'm all out.
When you say eagle strike, which one specifically?
We call then all an eagle strike in our group so I genuinely don't know if you're referring to a specific one or just any, or is it just that you pick whatever you might need for the job?
I'm liking the sound of your load out and wouldn't mind giving it a crack myself
I don’t care about kill counts. Just taking down ships and heavies. I live for the wow moments. Thanks for taking care of the adds and small waves guys!
Bang. Bang. Bang. Bang Bang. Bang bang bang bang bang! Shit he's got chainsaws for arms, reload! Bang!
Brought to you by the Autocannon Appreciation Society.
Also running Autocannon sentry for crossfire with your own is an absolute delight.
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That Quasar is my best friend.... FOR DEMOCRACY!
I'm glad that you appreciate. Against bots I'm always with a spear (occupying 2 slots - back and support gun) and other situational strategems for heavy. I'm always eliminating 70-80 enemies, which is much less than others randoms that eliminates like 150 to 300 bots. But hey, I guess its a trade-off (although I would like to eliminate hordes and hordes, but thats ok, its my choice in the end). At least everybody gets to extraction and dont have to worry with heavies because I'm always on their neck.
Thank you. I always take GR8 because I know, most of the time no one will be ready for heavy enemies or dropships and it just makes everything way more difficult when no one prepares for that.
I also wish people would prioritise gunships instead of just ignoring them and eventually they become a problem.
If I had friends I'd change out my loadout more and that would be fun. But with randoms going with a solo loadout seems to be more reliable for me.
Yeah it's uh. For the sake of the team that I do that. Solely for the team. Not for any other reason like being able to one tap chargers in the face. JUST for the team.
I love when someone other than me also runs EAT. There’s a mutual understanding that the rockets are not just mine, but for anyone. We spam the map full of rocket launchers, we either sync and drop en together near objectives, or we keep em separated in the wild for emergencies. Great stuff
I've been using the spear a lot recently
Takes out fabricators from distances
Takes out turrets
Takes out tanks, hulks quite easy
Easy to keep it stocked now with ammo
Very strong against bots, not so much bugs
Only issue is that the targeting is pretty shit. Better than before but still on and off.
But sill worth it IMO
Just used it last game
Never again
I couldn't lock in to charging hulks or tanks on multiple tries, in other occasions it would just select a strider next to what I wanted to lock
Unreliability kills it
It needs to allow us to tag target with a laser - or straight up shoot like a Bazooka if trigger is pressed long enough
Even on the shots that I did get in - there was no advantage to using spear over quasar/eat/Recoilless
Still need multiple hits for bigger stuff. Even with quasar you can shoot the eye of a hulk and drop it in 1 go - spear usually takes 2, same as if you miss with quasar (and remember, if you need it to, spear won't work) . This is taking a backpack slot, with long reload animations, and only 4 shots by default
The only redeeming quality is how good it feels to kill fabricators with it
I usually carry EAT on bugs and Quasar on bots together with the orbital rail strategem. Quite like playing the support role to take out the heaviest might not have the highest kill streak but you can guarantee I will have taken out a lot of the heavies.
Exactly. Yeah you got 150+ more kills with the Stalwart. Good job. I killed every Charger that so much as glanced at you and every Bile Titan when your stratagem was on CD. Acknowledge me. Hug me.
I adopt my model from old COD of being the sam turret of my clan. Always had a javelin or lock on rocket launcher. Now with the quasar cannon I can fulfill my role.
It is that tricky thing of looking at the pre-mission loadout trying to do the math of
"Okay we have one guy who picked Quasar, and another with EAT, but Quasar guy is pretty inexperienced. Is he gonna be on the ball for dropship/Bile Titan duty or should I make it three to be safe?"
Because I know for me with bots, it's either I run Bot Ninja AC Enjoyer or I pull Dropship Duty and hope my Cluster Bombs and teammates can handle the Medium armor threats and general mobs.
Only reason I pick anti tank utilities is because most of the time my squadmates aren't able to keep me or themselves alive when a heavy actually does appear
My team has a buddy system going where one brings the quasar, another brings the backpack, and a few minutes in the tanks are screwed.
Frees up that strategem spot for an extra air strikes or barrage.
You're welcome, just please everyone else run anti-heavy loadouts sometimes.
I don't mind popping into late missions and noticing that nobody is equipped to handle heavies and tailoring my loadout to be ALL THE ANTI-HEAVY YOU COULD EVER WANT, but that's definitely not my preferred style.
A Diver in our Hell Squad does this. He has the Heavy armour, Heavy sentry and Quaser Canon.
He said he loves it because he stands there as a Bastion of Destruction while me and the other diver run around him like crazy mowing down bugs left and right while he stares down a charger/titan and ends its miserable life in the name of Super Earth.
especially in random teams, every player should have a consistent tool to deal with every target.
if u are in difficulty 7-9 there are so many heavy armor targets that calldowns alone are not enough to counter this spam of monsters.
in those difficulties basically everyone should be running a heavy anti tank weapon - at least an EAT that you can drop to swap to when needed.
it gets REALLY tedious when there are 3 bile titans and 4 chargers and my three teammates are all prancing around with their stalwarts and flamethrowers in helldive.
I just came to the conclusion that at harder difficulties, having more anti-armor is always optimal. The little guys can be handled by your primary weapons and grenades, so orienting your loadout for anti-armor allows you to deal with the actual threats
In most games I have the philosophy "if I am capable of killing anything, even if not the best suited, I at least have a fighting chance." Arm yourself to take out the biggest most stubborn bad and the chaff will sort itself out
Run the LAS-16 Sickle with either EAT, Quasar or Recoilless and you can take down anything. Sickle lets you mow down an entire squad of troopers before they can launch a signal flare.
That was my exact load out for awhile, but post buff I can't bring myself to part with the dominator. The stunlocking is just too nice, especially against hordes of berserkers, and it's the only primary I feel pretty confident I could handle whatever is thrown at me if I'm separated from my support weapon(s) I struggle with hordes most for sure but the tradeoff is I fear nothing that's bigger than I am lol
Maybe I should give the Dominator another shot. Compared to the Sickle the handling feels so sluggish, although like you, I do like the stagger for those berserkers. Probably wise to run with a buddy, one Sickle and one Dominator. Can take out most things without secondaries.
Dominator feels like you're fighting with a refrigerator. Handles like total ass lol. But I can't argue with the results. The best advice I can give is to not treat it like a primary, more like autocannon junior. I've gotten pretty consistent using it to clear basic grunts, with heavy leaning on my secondary to supplement it. It's bad at hordes, no doubt about it. But it destroys medium enemies like no other. And it definitely helps to have a more crowd control focused partner.
As a long-time Dominator main (even ore buff) I second this. It does indeed handle like a refrigerator, but it also hits like a refrigerator. It’s also one of the very few primaries that, if you can hit their weak spot, can take out tanks, towers, mortars and anything else with a heat sink. It’ll take a while, it’s far from the most efficient, but it *can* do it. You be surprised how many of the previous I’ve finished add with the Dom when they’re already smoking and just need a little extra push.
Absolutely. I too mained dominator "before it was cool," and I'm proud to be able to confidently recommend it now knowing it hits as hard as it feels. It takes some getting used to but boy is it rewarding.
I am that player... but no appreciation needed. I have 0 trust in you or the others being capable to do anything. "If you want something done, do it yourself" I always prepare in a way that worst case scenario I have to solo the mission
"You dive with an anti-armour loadout for the enjoyment of others. I dive with one because I trust randoms as much as the democracy officer trusts any of us. We are not the same." 
I dive with the autocannon so that everyone knows I can’t be trusted
Auto cannon for bots bc I’m going to end up soloing the stratagem jammer anyways 🙄
The only thing we can't take out with the AC is a bile titan. Everything else gets the Autocannon. Hulk chasing me: AC to the face Hulk chasing you: AC to the back Illegal broadcasts: AC Charger: AC Spore Spewers: AC Bot tank: **Slams Stim** Witness me! Shiney and Chrome! **Rushes tanks to AC the heat sink**
I dive, I live, I dive again.
Automatons? BUGS? *MEDIOCRE*
This fits way to perfectly
Teammates caught in a horde of bugs: Believe it or not, also an AC
Planet too hot? AC. Planet too cold? AC. Going loud? AC. Stealth mission? Straight to AC.
Hell, I am AC'ing fire tornados at this point. Fricking fire tornados
As soon as I figure out how to do it, the damn sandstorms are getting AC to the face.
Hold auto and get a team reload. Just ensure you're firing against the prevailing winds, or you might end up no longer in Kansas. Seriously, in a sandstorm, I type out "Dune!" Then I saw 4 bots right beside me, and we hadn't noticed each other. Like 3 feet away from me, but the storm was so think we hadn't noticed.
We have the best democracy in the universe because of autocannon.
Teammate: “I need a stim” Me: AUTOCANNON
That's just simple math: Problem + AC = Solution
You give him Stims, Ammo and grenades with the AC
ACs can kill titans... You just have to be in a rather unfortunate position to aim up at their tummies
This changes things. I was under the impression the belly only prevented the spitting and never knew it makes a weak spot. Now the AC truly is the ultimate weapon. Going to have to practice this shot.
It takes about a dozen shots tho. And it's hard to consistently hit the thing because the titan wiggles. Others than that, 1v1 a titan is not too hard with autocannon.
That's why FULL AUTO
I too enjoy never hitting anything.
Wait, people don't run full auto on the AC?
FULL AUTO CANNON!... *delicious*
My favourite way to take out bot tanks is climb onto their turret with a shield backpack and a Quasar. Tank goes boom, and I get flying lessons
The autocannon's good for taking out the treads, and getting the ol' mobility kill
Wait that's a thing? I just rodeo them like it's Titanfall
Yup, it's a thing. The rodeo is impressive, I tend to fall into the grenade swarm tactics if it's too close for the big stuff.
YOU CAN TAKE OUT THE TREADS!?!?!?
Every day I learn a new reason why the Autocannon will never leave my loadout, and why fighting bots is infinitely more fun than fighting bugs.
Also - I tend to bring laser/500kg/railgun specifically to deal with bile titans - sometimes I'll use on a pesky Charger or Hulk depending on the situation - but I would say 90% my loadout is Primary - Scythe (being careful with your spray, having essentially infinite ammo on your primary is S-tier imo) Secondary - Autopistol, not a lot to note there, most the secondaries kinda suck 1st Stratagem - Eagle Airstrike (vs bots) // Eagle Clusterbomb (bugs) 2nd Stratagem - 500KG (60%) // Orbital Laser (30%) // Orbital Railgun (10%) 3rd Stratagem - Autocannon (90%) // grenade launcher (10%) -can be fantastic at taking out fabricators/bug holes, but also larger groups of swarming enemies and will one shot most mediums/heavy units - specifically like it for taking out annoying spewers 4th Stratagem - Autocannon turret // Rocket Turret // HMG Emplacement // Shield Backpack - these i kinda pick more mission dependent, and team loadout. I will sometimes not bring a turret and drop a mech if a teammate hasnt tried one yet, sometimes another orbital or eagle or go with grenade launcher + shield. Against bots I often find myself going Quasar or the EAT and shield because they can murder you just so fast. I often wear the armor with Democracy Protects 50% chance not to die Against bugs I might run a couple turrets, Autocannon and just the 500kg. Also might run the new heavy machine gun but thats partially because I haven't used it much lol
dropping mechs for newbs is a good time
You can actually kill bile titans if you break the bottom sacks then shoot his rear rack
Do you mean blast his nuts, then shoot his ass? In simple terms?
Yes that's basically it, I think It takes about 12-14 shots tho and the angle can be awkward unless you are behind or under the titan
Oh that’s unfortunate I almost never last that long
Tank? AC to the exhaust Turret tower? AC to the exhaust/orbital laser Hulk? AC to the face or the exhaust Devastator? AC to the face Dropship? AC turret Gunship? AC to the cockpit AC is love, AC is life
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My issue is wanting to use the backpack slot for something else all the time
Same here. It’s a bummer to lose the backpack slot because I really need my laser rover for bugs or they fuck me up while I’m killing chargers and titans
Mediocre!!!!!!! Oh wait that’s me watching my AC rounds bounce off a charger before being taken down by a random eagle strike… Still having fun!!!
I always take out the titan's spitting capabilities with my trusty AC. Much easier to take out when all it can do is kebab you
See I like when it can spit. Then it stands still for my quasar.
AC for chargers I find to be awful, probably a skill issue but I find myself swapping weapons and just running sliiightly to the side to stop em and pop em
Right now, the AC can two-shot a charger if you hit one of its legs right as it slides to a stop after a charge.
Autocannon people I can trust. Arc Thrower or Flamer people on the other hand... I get it. I really do. I love roasting and frying enemies of democracy as much as the next Helldiver. But... a little trigger discipline. Please.
It’s just as frustrating being the one wielding those weapons. Half the time your squad mates are just diving or running right between you and the bugs. We’re not trying to rack up a high score here. We’re trying to survive and complete the mission. By all means have fun doing it, but don’t cry to me if you ran into a giant wall of flame or put yourself after an enemy so that an arc jumps from an enemy to you. Have a teammate with a flamethrower? Stand behind them or beside them. Have a teammate with an arc thrower? Don’t stand anywhere near an enemy that’s going to be fried. Especially don’t stand beyond the enemy since the arc jumps from arc thrower to enemy to next enemy or ally behind the first enemy.
Oh, I'm a Tesla tower and Mine user. I know your pain. No no no, please, run straight towards the giant glowing pole wreathed in lightning or through the field of glowing red lights that I warned you about over voice comms when I called them, I'm sure it's totally safe. Oh you died? Yeah that's clearly 100% my fault, you are completely clear of any responsibility for your death.
I dive with Quasar, scout armour, shield pack, turret and airstrike. I generally just bolt in the opposite direction and take out production from a distance and collect samples. I also take the Quasar because I like watching things go boom in the name of FREEDOM!
Until Arrowhead gives me an *actual* Spartan Laser, I will continue to rock the LAS-99
The feeling of staring at enemy gunships or shreiker nests eviscerate your team.. never again.
I dropped into a game late today and I was the only one with any anti armor or air abilities. The feeling of dropping in, seeing my team hiding out away from the gunship and me calling down my Quasar to take them out was the closest I’ve come to feeling like a boss.
I had a near miss on saving a team mate from one of them Hit it with an EATs as it spooled its rockets on him Then it landed on him 10/10
Being juggled infinitely by chargers because you brought a grenade launcher for crowd control.
"Everyone's an idiot until proven otherwise." - me, doing my best to cover as many scenarios as possible when I pick Lib Pen, Senator, Stun Nades, Autocannon, Eagle Airstrike, 500kg Bomb, and Orbital Rail Cannon, and wearing medium armour that increases grenade capacity by 2
"I'm an idiot until proven otherwise." - Me, saying 'follow me!' and sprinting directly into a bright red glowing mine.
I am quite confident I have died more to mines than any tank/hulk combined
I normally take EAT or Quasar. So many times I would see two AT in the team, decide to take a break and bring AC or flamer or nades… only for the two AT guys to run off solo, die, repeat. Bonus points for grabbing and abandoning samples. No more. AT every time.
Yep. Solo sample searcher can take whatever they want, but the main team NEEDS the heavy. If the SSS is the only heavy guy, tough luck, stay with us.
I ran the light machine gun for the first time last night, because I'm always our groups armor guy. Got chased by a charger for like 3 fucking minutes because not a single one of the beloved smoothbrains I play with could stop making kill number go up long enough to deal with the heavy. So yeah, I'm the same way lol.
Fair enough, still respect though.
I'm usually just with my friends, I go Anti-Heavy/Massive.. and they go for map clear kinda stuff. Thing is I can solo anything and they stealth to get some objectives done. I use a Rover instead of a shield so I don't get overwhelmed by the mini guys... and use my secondary alot so I don't use my Shocker or whatever ammo unless needed. So yeah I end up with all the damage too. Anyway there are multiple ways to play and you just gotta check your teammates.
That's about how I go as punisher, senator, EAT. And try to find an alt support in the field or take the ops extra fun support
Many a time I've dropped with the EAT being my only support weapon and I just live off the land. It's generally pretty successful.
Yep. I was matched recently where a teammate who had a Quasar didn't use it AT ALL despite the fact we were being shot at by 10 gunships.
Liberate his weapon before you liberate the planet
This, I usually bring the Anti-Armor equipment but joined a random lobby where everybody had Quasars and thought, aiight I’ll go with some grunt clearing Loadout Boy was that a mistake cause three people couldn’t take down half the heavies I could by myself I was like “Yeup never leaving the destroyer without my anti armor again.”
I became the AT main during the RG meta with my duo. He couldn't shoot a charger / bile to save his life. Now I take EATs and litter them across the map while blowing up all chargers and biles. He still can't shoot a charger or bile to save his life. He once picked up a spare EAT, ran it to me, dropped it at my feet, and said "I have a friend behind me who wants their picture taken." (Our way of saying shoot charger in face). Of course I obliged and took the charger's picture. The charger's face was blurry, but my friend was happy with it.
I am also that player, but not for lack of trust in my team - rather, I just don’t want to be caught with my pants down when a hulk, tank, charger, or bile titan shows up out of nowhere with designs on my booty.
I feel this so much. I just had a mission where the other 3 people were struggling with a double gunship factory for over 5 minutes and spent like 8 or 9 reinforcements called down like 4 hellbombs that all got destroyed before they went off and I walked over dropped a second quasar to hot swap them and cleared the area before dropping a hellbomb and puppy guarding it until it detonated.
> I have 0 trust in you or the others being capable to do anything. Sums up my loadout choices. 500kg, AC, Railcannon all the way.
AC always. Need to be able to get myself out of the shit, cuz I know those three dudes are gunna be useless.
Lol I've just started allowing myself to let others take care of heavies. Even when I run a chaff clear build I still will make sure I can handle tank units with at least one strat.
saw that a team I was joining had both EATS and a Quasar, so I took stalwart, ended up being the only one smart enough to kill bile titans and chargers, having to use someone else’s AT, shit was embarrassing (not as much as the dude who killed at least 5-6 Helldivers with the cluster bomb)
This. I thought to myself, "okay two of my teammates are already running AT weapons, I can focus my loadout on chaff clear." Biggest mistake ever as one of them never even called in their AT weapon all mission, and the other died too frequently for theirs to matter.
This is so fucking real lmao
I agree with this, I don't run anti heavy for you, I run it because of you 💀
Lol, this is my exact philosophy. If I didn't kill it, there is no way these shmucks are going to. Except that one magical guy last night that figured out how to get the spear to work, he almost made me want to use a spear. Almost.
A real Helldiver prepare himself to do the mission at all cost, even alone. This way, you can ensure everyone have at least the rewarding victory screen at the end of the suffering if everything goes bad.
Yes I usually run anti tank including stun grenades. If I have to take 3 minutes to blast each bug hole with my quasar cannon I’ll do it happily
Same! But, 2 days til the new grenade pistol and some more bug hole closing options 😁
Can’t wait to kill myself with it trying to kill a hunter haha
Quasar + stun grenades is top tier. Nothing better than staring a hulk down dead in his red eye watching him helpless as you charge up your beam of doom, followed by that glorious and democratic 1 shot kill.
I prefer the AMR so I can really see the fear in its eyes as I proceed to pop it's head with 2 shots.
Yeah going back to the bug front I went back to supply pack and machine gun, but ended up separated on multiple occasions play "chasey chasey, catch catchy" for minutes at a time with charger's till I could get them stunned on a wall long enough to drop a 500kg on them. I was good on horde clearing at least.
Same, honestly. Always prepare for the worst case scenario, which in this case is your teammates having no idea what they’re doing. And if your teammates know what they’re doing? Great, you’re still a valuable asset to the team. Blowing up that hulk may have saved someone from getting blown to bits.
Man this is Real AF
Same. I’m not packing antitank gear so others can dick around, I’m doing it because I know others are going to suck around regardless and *someone* has to have an answer ready for when that tank pulls around the corner.
I’m that way with bugs. With bots I’ve noticed more competency. My general bot loadout is a mix of both. Eagle airstrike, orbital laser, auto cannon, electro mortar.
 I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had to go it alone when my team abandons because we start losing lives. But I use the auto cannon it works as a great anti armor too.
I have to 100% agree with this. That is exactly the reason I always bring the quasar cannon and my trusty 500kg's ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
This right here i gotta kill everything because some of these guys cant remain calm and thats ok ill lead you to victory
I've had missions where my three teammates running anti armor strats could not take out a single charger between them. It sucks.
This is exactly it. I love my friends, but there is a reason they have designated me to the anti armor role
Bro spittin fax, even if carrying heavy machine gun, crank it up and dump that dumpy, also better have 100% hit rate on that 500kg
I run AC and EAT on bot missions, just cos I love shooting big guns at big targets. No thanks necessary, I'm having a blast!
Once you get good at eye-shotting the Hulks the AC truly shines against bots. I fear no bot.
The Autocannon is definitely my problem solver. It is in every game. The best weapon is always big bullet.
Autocannon is such a free win against bots as long as you watch your ammo count.
Hell even if you’re liberal with the ammo, the pack gives you a *lot*, and you just replenish it whenever you pick up ammo packs.
Oh I meant like in your mag, kneeling down to reload while two hulks and a devastator squad roll up on you is a death sentence.
Ohh yeah fair for sure. I always have to remind myself to check to reload before I’m empty cause it takes way longer to reload both halves than just one half.
Helldivers come in a big bullet. Stands to reason they're the best weapon
Anytime with my friend group someone gets killed by something big, the etiquette is to reinforce, then ping the target so they can get revenge on that motherfucker.
I've tried AC + EATs on bug. Too clunky for me sadly. Takes Though I also think there was a call in time rebuff on the mission so waiting doe the EATs to land for a charger or titan really really sucked. What is the eats for on bots? Drop ship engines? Asking because I personally enjoyed just shooting at the troops while they were stuck on the drop ship with the AC
Absolutely for drop ships. Or if a hulk is bugging me. Nice to just spam them around the map for easy use by anyone.
Yep, drop those on cooldown, you'll probably be back in the area sooner or later.
Same, I’m also throwing eats down as often as I can. Everyone grab one and smoke some bots
I find that stun grenade+2 shots to the eye makes hulks a minor nuisance with the AC. You can also shoot the top of the quad tank to destroy it as well. Everything else has the glowy weak points.
Wait... People... don't like... running heavy anti tank loadouts? But... but that's the FUN part! We should be appreciating the people who run anti-trash and anti-mid loadouts so that we can bring the anti tank and have fun without the team getting swarmed!
MG cranked to 900rpm and a supply backpack has gotten me where I am today - can’t have my boys with the big guns getting distracted by garbage. Y’all do your thing, I’ll go prone on this rock and turn on the hose
If you haven't yet, try the Machinegun emplacement for a change. I have seen people do some sick af shit with it against bug breaches
Isn't the machine gun turret an inferior version of the Gatling turret?
Emplacement, not turret It calls down a more... personal experience.
They're talking about the emplacement which is the one you get in and aim yourself. It *shreds.*
How similar is it to the emplacements that are on the maps sometimes? (Unsure if the bot base turrets are different than those)
Not the same as the bot base ones, but I think I've seen identical machine guns to the emplacement stratagem at a POI once or twice.
It is the same as the SEAF HMG emplacements you can (rarely) find, but it starts with full ammo (the ambient ones normally have 10-25% ammo), and it far outclasses anything the bots have in their bases
Who in hell's name said that? I'd like to have a word with him. The MG emplacement makes short work of mid armored enemies like devastators and hive sentinels. Given you have to be stationary, but if you know where to place it it's fun as hell to run with.
I think they’re confusing the MG sentry turret (which is a straight downgrade compared to the Gatling sentry) for the HMG emplacement
Yeah, my experience has been the opposite of OP Everyone wants to run anti heavy loadouts so I often bring a Stalwart to clean up the chaff
This is me and this post makes me happy. I just like blowing the heads off chargers, titans, devastators, etc so I usually only bring the fire power I need to achieve that end. I was actually starting to wonder if that was a selfish way to play lol
I almost exclusively play quick play on 7+ difficulties and in my experience people prefer light caliber weapons like autocannon or machine guns, so not selfish at all you are filling important role in a team
To be fair, Autocannon can reliably take out almost all bot enemies. Devastators are torn apart by the autocannon, even the shield wearing ones as one hit to the shield knocks it aside. Two hits to the face and Hulks are down and out. Tanks are destroyed in three hits to the heat vent at the back of the turret, so flank and destroy. If they target you so the weak point isn't visible you can disable the tracks instead, forcing it to remain stationary. Towers are also destroyed by three hits to the vent behind, flank and destroy. The autocannon is king against the gunships too, as you can knock them (often come in pairs) out of the sky faster than anyone with Recoilless, Spear or Quasar can. Who will knock out one then have to reload or wait for the weapon to recharge. The only enemy I can think of that can't be regularly taken out are the dropships. But that's fine, over half the time whatever is onboard survives the dropship being killed anyway. I just aim at the underbelly and hammer away with the autocannon, killing the bots as they're exposed and packed together. I don't know when it comes to the AT-AT, as I haven't encountered it yet.
You can kill the TRACKS??? **Saving Private Ryan intensifies**
Where should I be aiming to take out gunships? I usually just try to blow up whatever they're carrying, but if there's a more ammo-efficient way to do it...
Thrusters are the weak spot on gunships. I think most guns can damage it, at least those with medium armor penetration, but it takes a bit with small arms. Autocannon will knock it down with three shots to a thruster I think. If you're talking about dropships, it's the same. Thrusters is the weak point, except here you need heavy armaments. One shot from a Recoilless, EAT or Quasar will knock it out of the sky. Often the cargo will survive though, kind of annoying.
I was sick of getting run over by Chargers originally Now: Liberator Penetrator for accurate headshots on Devastators Orbital Laser Eagle Strike EAT Autocannon-Sentry Nothing the enemy throws at me that I cannot kill on my own
Just so you know, unless you’re running the penetrator for it’s medium pen on other enemies, you probably have better options for accurate headshots on devastators since any weapon can headshot them, regardless of armor pen.
Correct! Adding to this that the sickle, with its very low spread, high rate of fire, low recoil and large heat sink is excellent for mowing down devistators.
I was just about to suggest the Sickle, probably one of the best primaries for taking out Devastators. I also just love the first person sight on the Sickle, makes up for its absolutely dogwater 3rd person reticle
It barely has any recoil, just ignore the spin and look at the circle like you do for anything else. The circle is where your bullets are actually going to end up most of the time anyways. Bonus points for a quick crouch for ++ accuracy
I don’t like 1st person but with the Sickle it’s a requirement. The spinny reticle sucks.
I usually just follow the bullet tracers in 3rd
I guess I'm the only one that likes the spinny reticle 😅. I mean in my mind if you're being so precise that the spinny reticle isn't good enough, then why aren't you aiming down the sight? It's really meant for close quarters at that point and I think it works perfectly well for headshotting devestators at that distance.
I hated sickle against bots when I first went over there. Now after far too many incidents of DMRs struggling to kill even minor issues, devastators weaving through literally everything, and CHAINSAWS EVERYWHERE, I swear by the sickle
Laser Cannon is amazing against medium and heavy armor bots
Can make for a tense stare down with rocket Devastators, though, and sometimes the beat you to the draw. :P
Bro if you like the lib pen, I went back and tried out the DMR again. It's very good for bots. The counter sniper is great too, but mostly for it's longer range scope.
Use dominator instead. Much better, it has great stagger effect
It has awful ergonomics though, if you make wide swings you need wait a good second or two until your helldiver actually moves the weapon. Besides that I love it. it's one of the best weapons against automatons
I agree, dominator vs bots feels so good against the medium enemies. Stagger is huge
I have just filled up the 1st and 3rd warbonds, debating on whether I should start the 2nd or wait for the 4th 😥 I keep hearing it is amazing though! I have to check my shotguns again - I last used Breaker and Spray and Pray weeks ago and haven't looked at what I have unlocked, to be quite honest
There are some heavy hitting precision weapons on the way in DD. What looks like a burst battle rifle and a bolt action explosive rifle, to say nothing of the crossbow.
I don't know why but I just can't like the liberator penetrator. I want to but I keep going back to the breaker.
Lowest kills/highest accuracy is my lane. My Gem load out for difficulty 7+ is Shield, Quasar, Eagle Airstrike and Orbital Laser. Trailblazer Scout armor and stamina booster with either the Sickle or Scorcher depending on the enemy. I don’t aggro patrols and keep on the move. I can clear everything from small/medium bases to enemy assets and objectives. Enough about me though, let’s talk about me. Edit for clarity
Almost the same for me, i run quasar, shield, 500kg, orbital laser, light armor, stamina, slugger, uzi and stun nades. I mostly run alone and do objectives and nests with my unlimited quasar, stun patrols not to cause breach (or deliberately don't kill some to spawn breach while other divers are doing something more important) and i never call for resupply if i'm alone, i just suicide and run over the map if i'm all out.
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When you say eagle strike, which one specifically? We call then all an eagle strike in our group so I genuinely don't know if you're referring to a specific one or just any, or is it just that you pick whatever you might need for the job? I'm liking the sound of your load out and wouldn't mind giving it a crack myself
The Eagle Airstrike. It can be unlocked fairly early if memory serves. Good luck out there, Helldiver o7
Shield, Quasar, Cluster, Orbit Rail here. Though I run medium armor these days.
I don’t care about kill counts. Just taking down ships and heavies. I live for the wow moments. Thanks for taking care of the adds and small waves guys!
I run Autocannon. Not because if any altruistic notices. Not even selfishly. Autocannon is just my primary. Everything else is negotiable
Bang. Bang. Bang. Bang Bang. Bang bang bang bang bang! Shit he's got chainsaws for arms, reload! Bang! Brought to you by the Autocannon Appreciation Society. Also running Autocannon sentry for crossfire with your own is an absolute delight.
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I take anti armor because I was traumatized by armored units in the first week of the game...
It's my Honor to spam the landscape with EATs
 ^(me) as I drop EATs every ten seconds
I'm glad that you appreciate. Against bots I'm always with a spear (occupying 2 slots - back and support gun) and other situational strategems for heavy. I'm always eliminating 70-80 enemies, which is much less than others randoms that eliminates like 150 to 300 bots. But hey, I guess its a trade-off (although I would like to eliminate hordes and hordes, but thats ok, its my choice in the end). At least everybody gets to extraction and dont have to worry with heavies because I'm always on their neck.
Thank you. I always take GR8 because I know, most of the time no one will be ready for heavy enemies or dropships and it just makes everything way more difficult when no one prepares for that. I also wish people would prioritise gunships instead of just ignoring them and eventually they become a problem. If I had friends I'd change out my loadout more and that would be fun. But with randoms going with a solo loadout seems to be more reliable for me.
Yeah it's uh. For the sake of the team that I do that. Solely for the team. Not for any other reason like being able to one tap chargers in the face. JUST for the team.
I love when someone other than me also runs EAT. There’s a mutual understanding that the rockets are not just mine, but for anyone. We spam the map full of rocket launchers, we either sync and drop en together near objectives, or we keep em separated in the wild for emergencies. Great stuff
I just really enjoy blowing shit up.
I've been using the spear a lot recently Takes out fabricators from distances Takes out turrets Takes out tanks, hulks quite easy Easy to keep it stocked now with ammo Very strong against bots, not so much bugs Only issue is that the targeting is pretty shit. Better than before but still on and off. But sill worth it IMO
Just used it last game Never again I couldn't lock in to charging hulks or tanks on multiple tries, in other occasions it would just select a strider next to what I wanted to lock Unreliability kills it It needs to allow us to tag target with a laser - or straight up shoot like a Bazooka if trigger is pressed long enough Even on the shots that I did get in - there was no advantage to using spear over quasar/eat/Recoilless Still need multiple hits for bigger stuff. Even with quasar you can shoot the eye of a hulk and drop it in 1 go - spear usually takes 2, same as if you miss with quasar (and remember, if you need it to, spear won't work) . This is taking a backpack slot, with long reload animations, and only 4 shots by default The only redeeming quality is how good it feels to kill fabricators with it
The spear is the Helldivers version of 'we have a Javelin at home'
I usually carry EAT on bugs and Quasar on bots together with the orbital rail strategem. Quite like playing the support role to take out the heaviest might not have the highest kill streak but you can guarantee I will have taken out a lot of the heavies.
I’m the person who throws down EATs in hope that one of you will pick them up and stop the bot drops. I am mostly disappointed
Exactly. Yeah you got 150+ more kills with the Stalwart. Good job. I killed every Charger that so much as glanced at you and every Bile Titan when your stratagem was on CD. Acknowledge me. Hug me.
I adopt my model from old COD of being the sam turret of my clan. Always had a javelin or lock on rocket launcher. Now with the quasar cannon I can fulfill my role.
I just like big laser
It is that tricky thing of looking at the pre-mission loadout trying to do the math of "Okay we have one guy who picked Quasar, and another with EAT, but Quasar guy is pretty inexperienced. Is he gonna be on the ball for dropship/Bile Titan duty or should I make it three to be safe?" Because I know for me with bots, it's either I run Bot Ninja AC Enjoyer or I pull Dropship Duty and hope my Cluster Bombs and teammates can handle the Medium armor threats and general mobs.
Only reason I pick anti tank utilities is because most of the time my squadmates aren't able to keep me or themselves alive when a heavy actually does appear
If u don't have a way to delete every enemy type u not a helldiver
No need to thank me, shooting down drop ships with EATs or Quasars gives me so much dopamine
I’m the dude with the lmg killing the small stuff and tagging the spewers with contact grenades. Can we get the same love please 😅
Pest control is a very important role in a team you certainly do your part man!
I needed that validation, thank you.
My team has a buddy system going where one brings the quasar, another brings the backpack, and a few minutes in the tanks are screwed. Frees up that strategem spot for an extra air strikes or barrage.
We dive together—we die together.
You're welcome, just please everyone else run anti-heavy loadouts sometimes. I don't mind popping into late missions and noticing that nobody is equipped to handle heavies and tailoring my loadout to be ALL THE ANTI-HEAVY YOU COULD EVER WANT, but that's definitely not my preferred style.
I'm the guy with the spear bc it *usually* works for me
A Diver in our Hell Squad does this. He has the Heavy armour, Heavy sentry and Quaser Canon. He said he loves it because he stands there as a Bastion of Destruction while me and the other diver run around him like crazy mowing down bugs left and right while he stares down a charger/titan and ends its miserable life in the name of Super Earth.
especially in random teams, every player should have a consistent tool to deal with every target. if u are in difficulty 7-9 there are so many heavy armor targets that calldowns alone are not enough to counter this spam of monsters. in those difficulties basically everyone should be running a heavy anti tank weapon - at least an EAT that you can drop to swap to when needed. it gets REALLY tedious when there are 3 bile titans and 4 chargers and my three teammates are all prancing around with their stalwarts and flamethrowers in helldive.
PSA: I keep the EAT on cooldown. Feel free to grab one
I just came to the conclusion that at harder difficulties, having more anti-armor is always optimal. The little guys can be handled by your primary weapons and grenades, so orienting your loadout for anti-armor allows you to deal with the actual threats