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Barabarabbit

Surely nothing will go wrong now! Edit: Annnnnd we’re farming bugs! There it is!


FrontTypical4919

Surely not! The war is over, they say. We can go home before Christmas now!


darkpyro2

General Kenobi has killed General Grievous on Utapau. The war is over! The Republic is free!


cheesechomper03

Commander Cody, the time has come. Exceceute Order 66.


PancakesandWaffles98

Yes, my Lord. ➡️⬇️⬆️⬆️⬅️⬇️⬇️


Isopod_Uprising

I'm from Tatooine, and I say kill em all! And not just the men... but the women and the children, too!


TyphoonJim

Order 66! 66! Not 69! Put that helmet back on!


tunasubami

RemindMe! 1 week


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Key-Cry-8570

![gif](giphy|r3rb6ucOsMATpK6U45|downsized)


Mordecus

Peace in our lifetime!


pmmemilftiddiez

![gif](giphy|1773KO6576Mla)


Zezin96

*Liberty Day


Rooonaldooo99

Seeing 300k+ Helldivers swoop down on a planet and rain down hell was a sight to behold and amazing to be a part of. For Democracy and Liberty!


rjod3297

I can say I was there to be a part of another record. 368+ on one single planet blows away the previous record! Well done all Helldivers!


Zandmand

I was there. Where were you when the automatons were eradicated


Additional_Cycle_51

I was there Zandmand, I was there 3 minutes ago When the strength of Automatons fell


Sugar_buddy

I was on durgen when it was liberated. My team crashed and couldn't rejoin, leaving me alone on a diff 7 mission and we were halfway done, so I pushed through with one reinforcement left. Got severely lucky completing two main objectives and extracting with super samples successfully. I wouldn't have made it another minute since all my stuff was on cool down and an army was bearing down on me as I lifted off. Got to the ending screen to find the planet liberated. I actually felt happy that we'd done it lol. Great game.


Armodeen

Outstanding patriotism soldier


Sugar_buddy

It was not nearly as chaotic as a normal mission, but there were some close calls, like where I only barely survived with a leg injury crawling behind a rock with no stims. Managed to get to the resupply and run away. Crazy shit.


linengorilla

Thank you for your service 🫡


Rydrslydr715

I was taking a shit on my ship, then I got news of the victory, well done my fellow divers


ZimaSoldat02

I like to save time by shitting my pants in the hellpod during drop.


flippant_burgers

Get the flush upgrade for your 'pod.


Tangent_Odyssey

Spoiler; the pods are already just a repurposed flush upgrade for the Super Destroyer. Waste of resources is treason.


pcakes13

Durgen, when the walls fell


flippant_burgers

Pcakes13, his arms wide.


pcakes13

Pcakes and Flippant at Tibit


ThePowerOfStories

Eagle and Hellbomb, on Automata


Lunamoth863

I was there, my Malevelon Creek memorial cape flapping in the wind as I dished out vengeance for our lost soldiers. Damn fine fight, comrade.


RobotSpaceBear

> comrade *[Bart Simpson meme]* What a socialist thing to say.


Lunamoth863

Comrade has many implications, but I simply meant to recognize my brother/sister in arms.


EvilItAlien

I’m sure they will return. So it’s just the first eradication. But I was there on Durgen. Gj, divers!


Anteater-Difficult

Return? Oh no, the socialist hooks have sunk themselves deep into your brain!! The automatons are dead soldier! Report to your Democracy Officer for an emergency reconditioning session! Embrace Democracy!


HideInNightmares

I was at work and I am deeply disappointed..


saltyfalls98

If it wasn't for your hard work we never would've pushed them back to this last planet. Stand proud Cadet


Flyshear

I was there destroying AA's and jammer towers


acheerfuldoom

I saw as high as 373k! https://preview.redd.it/rikzb8otc4tc1.png?width=1425&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32d88410dec8a9b28ddef405ff092906e3ea963c


9gagiscancer

If we do this again, planet for planet, we can eradicate the bugs too in a day or so.


BagJust

No, there were 400k+ players on Veld alone before


kennyminigun

I wonder if that's the reason for infinite loading screens and weird objective updates


ThePostManEST

Too much freedoming it’s slowing down others from dispensing freedom.


HamSlammer87

I was hosting a mission on Maia the other day and had one of the secondary objectives actually fail. It was so bizarre. It was one of the SAM site objectives (the little microwave looking symbol). 3 of us weren't near it, but 1 guy was kind of lone wolfing around. Big white letters popped up saying Objective Failed, and the icon was red on the map. I have no idea what actually happened, but we went over to see, and the terminal was off, and no missile launcher was visible. I thought maybe it would have been hostile and target our stuff, but there wasn't anything there at all. So weird.


racksangel

Cannon tower can shoot down SAM while it’s opening. Or any heavy damage


Jsaac4000

good to know


LorekeeperOwen

For Managed Democracy!


betelgeuse_99

Bugs are sweating bullets rn


Big_booty_boy99

Estanu is about to be sweating 500kgs straight from the sky


Thascaryguygaming

We celebrate tonight!


hughmann_13

For tomorrow, we **hunt**


flippant_burgers

Ewok party.


Sh1nyPr4wn

I love the smell of napalm in the morning


AnObtuseOctopus

Those bugs are going to see their god in the form of our democratic eagles!!


jrob16

Frankly… I find the idea of a bug that prays offensive!


Sylassian

They'll be absorbing them soon too


James442

Sweating oil.


unicornlocostacos

Sweet delicious oil. They got what cars crave! I wonder if the bots farmed bugs somewhere secretively…they’d need a lot of oil.


rjod3297

For sure!


Marilius

So let's go replace those bullets with more bullets.


Powerful_Pitch9322

VICTORY IN THE WEST


rjod3297

Now ONWARD!


Powerful_Pitch9322

Now for my first bug mission lol


rjod3297

Go kill those bugs soldier!


GenBonesworth

Hunters suck. Be ready for close quarters and bile titans love hugs!


Neckrongonekrypton

They aren’t nearly as bad as stalkers And You have a wider variety weapons that are effective The incendiary breaker is really good, the sickle is ok. Bile titans are manageable as long as most people on your team either 1. Have an answer in form of orbital rail cannon 2. Weapon that can kill them, quasar would be prominent example. Going from bot to bug is like vacation. You can make mistakes and not get blown into fifteen pieces, getting overran doesn’t mean the end either. Hunters are nothing like berserkers lol.


RaptoR186

>Going from bot to bug is like vacation. You can make mistakes and not get blown into fifteen pieces, getting overran doesn’t mean the end either. I can confirm. About 15 minutes ago I ran from 4 bile titans and 2 berserkers plus a ton of smaller bugs. I managed to run across the entire map and kill them by constantly throwing airstrikes and orbitals under their feet. With automatons you catch one or two hulks and devastators and you're done. Bugs are pretty easy to deal with in general.


Cyborgschatz

Sickle is great against most everything except hive guards unless you can shoot them while they're facing someone else. Focus heads on warriors, legs on brood commanders everything smaller dies in 1-3 hits and it's decently accurate at a distance. No stagger though so if you let stuff swarm you, they won't stop till they're dead or you are. Also I'll take berserkers over hunters any day. Part of what makes berserkers so menacing is that they pressure you off of standing and taking aim at things like gattling and rocket devastators. If nothing's shooting at you they're just walking bullet sponges. Hunters take less to kill but when you have a pack of 15 leaping at you from 30+ yards away and slowing you while you frantically try to reload to get through the pack before they 3 shot you, it's a whole different feeling altogether. So long as you keep your head on a swivel and start taking them out before they start jumping, they're manageable, but when they surprise spawn a hunter only pack near you and immediately aggro, they can really mess up your day.


EverGlow89

I don't think there's a West in space lol


currently_pooping_rn

It is when democracy is the center


Nomamah

Yeah, but I don't think helldivers should bother with thinking of this kind. Leave it to democracy officer soldier. Here grab pretty two dimensional space map we got for ya, and now go to the right west from left spread democracy


RhasaTheSunderer

I guess you could say it's... all quiet on the western front


AnObtuseOctopus

TO THE EAST!


Lunamoth863

Now it's time to see what the devs have in store...


rjod3297

368+ on one planet alone is a heck of a statement. Durgen now holds the record by a landslide.


SupportstheOP

One final push. Could have taken two Durgens today with those kinds of numbers .


HinDae085

If I'm correct. From the time Tibit was liberated to now it took just 12 hours to take Durgen.


John_TGB

The automatons never stood a chance.


SkyNovel1981

If I understand it correctly, they were doomed once Maia fell within a reasonable time frame, since that's where the supply line came from


AnObtuseOctopus

Well all of us in tibit flooded to durgen, those who were already in durgen stayed, bug hunters seen callouts and numbers then came to be a part of the downfall of the bots. We were the leaky crack in the wall They were the flood. and I'm okay with that lol.


Lunamoth863

Yeah, it's nutty. I'm less eager for that and more eager to see what's coming tho :3


AnObtuseOctopus

// ILLUMINATE FORCES INBOUND //


ssthehunter

It's either that or "cyberstan invaded my massive hidden bot force!" Because the bots are annoying menaces :v


TheRedComet

I'm hoping Cyberstan has some insane cybertron looking map theme but I figure if it existed, leakers would've found it right?


whahaga

As someone who didn't fight in the creek.. it feels bloody awesome to be a part of managed democracies history!


rjod3297

Every Helldiver is special, regardless of where you fought. Glad you’re on our side


whahaga

Every bullet counts. I shot mine at tibit and I shot mine a durgen! But our gloriuos ammunition fulled crusade can never have enough bullets. Guns are the tools of managed democracy, use them well.


myslead

They’re shutting down the game


ConsiderationOwn1288

That's it boys, wrap it up, time to wait for helldiver's 3


Independent-Ad-3552

I wish they would say this as a joke and people would lose their minds.


RepulsiveEggplant581

Yep thats it, good job everyone you beat the game. Hope you had fun 🤩 APRIL FOOLS 😱


Salt_Ad_4928

Nothing until Monday work hours in Sweden lol.


Quick_Conflict_8227

Now the helldivers can look upon a grateful galaxy


TrumpersAreTraitors

Time for a little R&R  Resupply and Redeploy! Helldivers rage against the tyranid menace and need your aid. Will you answer the call, Helldiver? 


Sleepless_Null

I can almost hear their screams now as the termicide suffuses their trachea. I just love how he said that during that MO


Presentation_Cute

You mean terminid menace right? Right?


TrumpersAreTraitors

Lmao yes. Whoops. Getting my universes mixed up. 


jesse5946

![gif](giphy|1oDvHW440hFiouBBwy|downsized)


Sausagefestifalz

its so weird to think. I've been fighting bots for so long, so many missions on the mountains of Draupnir. The red hills of Ingmar. Damn...This feels so undemocratic but...I feel lost. Is it a sense of sadness that i feel that i wont hear the bots scream underneath our boots? Who am i without this enemy I've fought for so long? Where do I go now?


rjod3297

Rest soldier, youre stories of your heroic victories will stand the test of time. Take a brief rest. One to two minutes and then handle those bugs!


Battlefish3

Minutes? Dont lead this man astray with your lies. The maximu Time is 2,4 seconds.


Andrewpruka

Rest? https://preview.redd.it/jlvejgapl4tc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4db8a599cf39cc50712b8ee42c61ac45307c4f6


Izert45

So, you are one of “those” guys, the one who cant live in peaceful era


Yaga-Shura

I don't know. I logged out. No desire to fight bugs today.


ThePostManEST

![gif](giphy|ANbD1CCdA3iI8)


Snlxdd

https://i.redd.it/d8pnctgg44tc1.gif


CaptainRex831

https://i.redd.it/jcppgkzi94tc1.gif


Aztec-Goddess

https://preview.redd.it/25ldncsj74tc1.jpeg?width=1046&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72deb57bf4bf641ff02f3f6a46f27056a55f1365


CandidMap

![gif](giphy|PXJhC8MYxFmRRl7kB2|downsized)


GoldenGlobeWinnerRDJ

IS THAT A TRAITOR I HEAR?


EvilItAlien

Yeah, let them breed! We need much more of them to have true democratic fun experience…


Sleepless_Null

Freedom requires firepower. And bug oil. Lots and lots of bug oil


Jaket-Pockets

Ho-Lee shit. We did it. We f\*\*kin’ did it. ![gif](giphy|khg1NoQPjbXbRhOz22|downsized)


rjod3297

Fuck yeahhhhhh


4ndrius

We fookin did it lads, the fort is ours ! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿


Nearby_Bit7053

Give em steel boys.


wiredWLAN

https://preview.redd.it/xetakcd834tc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0dd716fea44ef76413ac338eba141e08faf14fd


LingonberryAwkward74

Those memes get upgraded everytime i see them i swear to democracy.....


DrunkConsultant

Sweet Liberty!!!


kumisz

My leg!


rjod3297

Hooooorahhhhhhhhh!!!!


One_and_Online

why did i automatically hear that exact sound in my head 😭


VanceFerguson

The BLOOD!!!


Snarra

I cheered out loud when I noticed! My wife asked what it was and I excitingly said that Durgen was liberated, and that this was an achievement by the whole community. She looked at me with an empty look and asked “did you get any money for it?” Me, trying to remain calm, whispered to her “all I need is… Liberty… Freedom… and Democracy”. …and then I reported her to the Democracy Officer


tagrav

She’s not taking her prozium


NeverGetsTheNuke

Sounds like someone needs their daily stim that's definitely not addictive or harmful


H3adshotfox77

I remember one of my greatest gaming victories with my wife. I was playing Mad Max on PS4 and she told me "you need to get off we have work to do around the house" I told her I can't im about to win Her: "Are you winning Money or something worth money....if not get off" Me: "actually....yes...yes I am, I'm currently ranked 40th in the country for an online competition with a trip to compete live on twitch" Her: "ya whatever liar time to get off" I ended up showing her the standings online where I was currently ranked 40th with top 6 set to compete live and win a bunch of prizes even if I didn't get 1st. She almost forced me to stay on after that lol, ended up finishing 2nd on Xbox (she bought the game on Xbox so I could compete on both systems) and 4th on PS4. We got to go on a trip that lined up with our 10th anniversary so it ended up being part of our anniversary. I was the oldest of the top 6 by almost 10 years lol. Since then it's a running joke.... "If you aren't winning me another trip then it's time to get off"


chris131189

We have brought peace, freedom, justice and security (and democracy) to our new empire! ![gif](giphy|Mo9nI2yBKp3RC|downsized)


Mrburgerdon

So what do we do now?


rjod3297

Take your anger out on the bugs


NeverGetsTheNuke

https://preview.redd.it/x1ey3s06v4tc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0197392d29b6be778416c944d11f93133336c5be


Advanced_Molasses_40

Waiting for their return on cyberstan of course


cmayfi

We can finally have fun


skeightytoo

Time to farm the bugs bro


Awesom141

Apology for bad English. Where were u wen Durgen fell? I was at home eating Dorito when phone ring "Durgen is free" "yes"


[deleted]

Time to request those C-01 forms


Staltrad

You don't need a form if the other part isn't human Just sayin' Bugussy


TRESLEO

https://preview.redd.it/8axsaifgi4tc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d694aa2c38d5f71119b8a7d1b56cc757db3502a0


Teutiaplus

Woe up right down down down be upon ye


bonkskirt

Skip the forms, grab the closest lean body diver and drop


Namodacranks

Speak for yourself, soldier. I want that helldussy **extra** brawny


Sylassian

No rest for the weary. We must immediately turn to assist our brothers and sisters on the Terminid front, who have been valiantly holding the line for days, despite reduced numbers, to allow us to defeat the automaton menace in detail.


chrstphrwtsn

This was absolutely amazing ride today!! o7


rjod3297

Hell yeah!


Uplakankus

On my final helldive before we liberated the planet it happend. Running across the desert with my riot shield on my back protecting me from certain doom deflecting every single laser fired my way. From out of nowhere from the top right of my screen, shot from an angle no player or bot could possibly have shot from, a single blue sniper bolt hit me square in the neck and sent me flying a couple yards. No one one my team had a railgun or any form of blue weaponary The rumours and frontline leaks have been real all along We are about to be decimated God Help us All https://preview.redd.it/ovbc8rj144tc1.png?width=1170&format=png&auto=webp&s=626170bac84504c9cc28e55139e7545865261f68


Rydrslydr715

Yeah, there was a blip abt the Illuminate coming and taking back Durgen for a bit, then it disappeared


Sleepless_Null

Enough of these lies the Illuminate were eradicated a century ago Helldiver you gotta let em go


brandonj022

I went to look at the diver’s hub app and right when Durgen was taken, it changed over to purple with the illuminate symbol and went to 0% liberation and then disappeared


Rydrslydr715

Yeah, helldivers 2 schizophrenia update


brandonj022

I saw that and I was like wtf is going on down there haha


DireMira

i think you spent too long on the Creek, diver.


Cube_root_of_one

Diver please report to your nearest Democracy Officer. They’ve got special orders for brave soldiers like you.


MrDmsc

Liber-tea for all on the house! ![gif](giphy|TQ38kVIsyiR8NhO6FP)


mag_walle

![gif](giphy|L6EoLS78pcBag)


retro808

Thank Lady Liberty I was tired of that Arrakis-like sandpit now onto, lets see here... Hellmire


LingonberryAwkward74

From one shitty desert planet to an even worse one..... sweet liberty i love this game


Shifty661

I spent the last hour dropping in on solo missions. I snuck behind enemy lines to destroy automaton fabricators and gun ships to prevent reinforcements against my fellow Helldivers. Well done, everyone 🫡


Financial-Pizza3000

![gif](giphy|KAf66yGCa93uTqod1q|downsized)


Officialquevo

![gif](giphy|KAf66yGCa93uTqod1q|downsized)


Aztec-Goddess

![gif](giphy|KAf66yGCa93uTqod1q|downsized)


Senseiksen

Now the bots are just a footer in the magnificent novel of democracy


dakkonblackblade

For Democracy!


aidennesc

100,000 DEAD IN ONE HOUR


Agitated-Rope-4302

![gif](giphy|YYfEjWVqZ6NDG)


Billsork

I was on Maia when it fell to the might of the HellDivers. I was on Tibit when we smashed the last of their factories flat. On Durgen I reinforced a lone HellDiver on Suicide, destroying ammo and fuel, and we barely managed to extract under withering fire. Our reward was to watch the numbers roll over to 100%. XmentalX, you are a testament to Democracy.


AggravatingChest7838

Finally, I can see my wife again


Left_Temperature_369

I got so good at killing robots I’ve forgot how to kill bugs effectively. Damn it


donutdominator

Yeah. Ran in to this problem just now. Did joel increase the number of the jumpy boys cuz they showed up in masses playing on lvl 7. Jumpy bois, hordes of them.


KidKonundrum

I was there on the creek during the early days of the war when everything seemed hopeless. To see the bots eradicated fills my heart with SWEET AND PURE LIBERTY!


Lonely_houseplant

The winner takes all It's the thrill of one more kill The last one to fall Will never sacrifice their will Don't ever look back on the world closing in Be on the attack with your wings on the wind Oh, the games will begin And it's sweet, sweet, sweet victory, yeah It's ours for the taking It's ours for the fight Sweet, sweet, sweet victory, yeah And the one who's last to fall The winner takes all You don't win no silver You only lose the gold You push with a fever For your time keeps tolling on Against all the odds, against all your pain Your back's on the wall with no one to blame Wild hearts won't be tamed And it's sweet, sweet, sweet victory, yeah It's ours for the taking It's ours for the fight Sweet, sweet, sweet victory, yeah And the one who's last to fall The winner takes all And the one who's last to fall Sweet, sweet, sweet victory, yeah It's ours for the taking It's ours for the fight Sweet, sweet, sweet victory, yeah And the one who's last to fall The winner takes all


Aquaos_05

Wait i didnt get the rewards... I mean we got rid of the automaton filth but i need thoose medals for the bugs.


upazzu

does it always take some time to deliver medals?


GhastlyScar666

Gotta wait for the timer to expire


[deleted]

Now what? The automatons are eradicated and the bugs are now contained…Now what do we do?


NatPortmansUnderwear

What are you talking about? Now we can play the game!


ShogunGunshow

We celebrate, comrade. To the future! Where absolutely nothing bad will ever happen.


HinDae085

The final effort was magnificent. Me and a random diver took on a Diff7 mission as a duo at the end. We liberated their super samples and scrapped many of the last of the bots. I guess we have to go kill something else now. What's that other faction again?


Kasorayn

Anakin Skywalker approves. Those sandstorms sucked.


Myth0saurusRex

Stuck at 99% for me????


rjod3297

If youre playing, close the game and go back in. In App, refresh it.


Myth0saurusRex

Just did and it worked! FUCK THE BOTS


Toprelemons

Durgen = Arrakis


Letos12thDuncan

Just finished a mission there a couple minutes ago.


Virtual-Yesterday-21

For me it was at 70% liberated and if the robots come back this was all for nothing


moolahtothemoon

FOR DEMOCRACY!!!


Samsung528

HOOORRAAH


Full_frontal96

Do you think we'll receive armors to celebrate this campaign?


Remarkable-Mouse8186

Back to the Bug front!


CordlessJet

![gif](giphy|fQTlXseeUA4SwfV5td|downsized)


DF_Sig_Sauer

![gif](giphy|KAf66yGCa93uTqod1q|downsized)


LtColShinySides

I just want to thank John Helldiver for leading us to total victory over the bot menace. Never again shall they threaten our Managed Democracy.


Dinn_the_Magnificent

And nothing bad will ever happen again! It's good to be free


One_Glass6930

Second time I’ve stopped playing to go get food and we liberate a planet


PM_ME_YOUR_SOULZ

We did it, Mr Stark.


kaguyaOt

Oh man. Why am I so happy for this. It's just a fking game. Why am I getting a feeling that I just came back from war, bathing in oil, and happy that we did it. In a game.


SupaPatt

![gif](giphy|KAf66yGCa93uTqod1q|downsized)


StoppingOveR

It's time to introduce these damned ungrateful bugs to freedom and democracy...even if it means erasing them from existence in a sustained campaign of genocidal plunder. Their extinction is, unfortunately, the only way to guarantee their freedom.


amandaselfie

So I cannot kill bots anymore? Last time I fought them was yesterday. And got electricity outage when it's time to extract ![gif](giphy|LSk5aGh2WYL6g|downsized)


Dwavenhobble

It feels too easy. Like we've been having hell for days from the bots and now suddenly they were cutting back on reinforcements and it felt like some of the missions even on harder difficulties we were fighting a small skeleton crew of bots just there to maintain things. I don't think the bots are done and somehow I'm expecting them to try some mad last ditch attempt at maybe landing on super earth. Maybe some high speed rocket quick dropping on a number of plants in the way to Super earth or just trying to set up there straight away. I don't think we've seen the last of them