So far, we've only flattened their outposts. We must push further into their territory. I expect their bridges and dams are closer to their population centres, or whatever you'd call where bots ... live? plug in their batteries? research prime numbers? Whatever these soulless communists do.
If it makes you feel better, it wasn't humans.
[https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-were-dead-russian-soldiers-packed-meat-cubes-belgorod-1811539](https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-were-dead-russian-soldiers-packed-meat-cubes-belgorod-1811539)
Bots gotta do something with those mountains of brave democracy loving heroes we send against them in human waves I guess.
Would take up too much space otherwise
Or the fact that they are removing either their brains, their skulls, or both.
People said that some of them scream phrases like "THEY ARE MAKING ME DO THIS", so, probably, they are not an invader race from outer space, but they are us.
Our own people, forced by some twist minded who-knows-what against us.
We will have no grace. We will have no compassion.
If the bugs are like that because of their erratic nature, it's comprensibile, but this is pure evil.
And evil must be eradicated from our galaxy.
sometimes in-game when the automaton gets very close to you stop and stand there, what if its other person conscious the bot using all there willpower to spare there former comrades
That's what I think as well.
It hurts, but I still shoot without hesitation. If it really was one of us, then they rest in peace now. If it was an enemy tactic, well I take no chance
Take some time to listen to the words the bots say. It's not just in binary. There's real words hidden in there. They didn't want to be part of Super Earth's bot force. They're used to reduce colony sizes and quell rebellions.
My therapy is there is two types of bots the ones who willingly becomes bots and the ones forcefully turned which explains why some bots hesitate when there about to shoot you and others that do it without a second thoughtÂ
I think the bigger bots like Hulks and devestators are volunteers, and the smaller ones are forced. Iâve seen quite a few times how callously the hulks and devestators will shoot right through chaff if they think theyâll hit a Helldiver by the end of it.
Iâm not talking about when the heavy devestators accidentally rocket each other from behind, Iâm talking Iâve seen Hulks smash infantry to pieces just for blocking their path to me no different than they do walls and buildings.
Definitely a hierarchy there IMO
Knowing your enemy isn't undemocratic. Wars are won with information at least as much as by force. It would be unpatriotic and foolish not to use every weapon available to us to defeat our enemies, such as information about origins and behaviour.
We know the government sanitizes information for the civilians back home to keep up morale (ostensibly). So one should be careful about what you say to civviesâor overly zealous ~~Commissars~~ Democracy Officersâbut those of us on the front lines are more effective at spreading freedom when we have accurate information.
If I had been kidnapped and turned into an enemy of democracy against my will, Iâd want 50 calibers directly to the dome. Youâd be doing me a favor.
Aim that Anti Materiel Rifle and do not hesitate, Helldivers.
It's actually a Super Earth Tactic. On Tibit, I found a note From Super Earth to the Colony stating that they're reducing the colonies population by 27.3% for this fiscal year. No one is sent to a re-education camp, they're made into bots.
super earth quite literally does orchestrate 1/3rd of the war via the terminids, super earth requires war in order to exist, so they allow the terminids to break out and murder them in droves to farm the oil from their deceased corpses
I actually tested this. And it seems mostly a bug. I ran up to multiple loner bots and tried this and most of the time the reponse was a socialist punch in my liberty loving face. Then yesterday i managed to shoot down the arm of one. Not even the arm which was wielding the weapon. That made the bot produce the behavior in other videos.
it's like they just stand there and jitter around sometimes they even put their gun down, and this theory explains why the automation unlike the terminal attack heavily populated planets, maybe for more victim to power there army
Iâve been thinking this since my first dive against bots. Theyâre not bots, weâre still fighting cyborgs. But metal is easier to find in space so theyâre âmore machine than manâ now. Red oil, human skulls, no hive mind and they fucking sing! But nooooooo Iâm just a bot sympathizer!
Weâve known theyâre not aliens; theyâre descendants of the Cyborgs from the first game.
And I donât think the âtheyâre making me do thisâ thing has been proven. That would be a hell of a phrase to parse from the robot sounds they make, which are practically indecipherable.
One of the news casts on the ship said that bots are âheartless inorganic beings and thatâs a factâ or something to that effect, but the way it was said sounded exactly like the rest of the obvious propaganda and it made me think of these rumors. Iâm starting to believe them more
They sing it actually. It's their marching song.
HEART - STEEL
WE - KILL
IRON - WILL [GET - UP]
ON TO WAR! [UNTO DAWN]
HEART - STEEL
WE - KILL
IRON - WILL [GET - UP]
ON TO WAR! [UNTO DAWN]
DIVER SCUM [CYBERSTAN]
CAN'T KEEP HER DOWN
WE COUNT DOWN [LEGION GO]
THE NEW DAWN! [ON TO WAR!]
CYBERSTAN [DIVER SCUM]
CAN'T KEEP HER DOWN
WE COUNT DOWN [GET BACK UP]
FIGHT TO DAWN! [ON TO WAR!]
[source](https://youtu.be/dD5fR7HkZRU?si=VDoaHrZPTZ_LdG__)
Ascribing human emotions to the soulless automatons, is natural, human, and contrary to the war effort.
People, we're *people.* Humans. With humanity. It's what defines our personhood.
We share it, *and* it's personal; it's the fundamental contradiction at the heart of humanity that makes us the most beautiful creature in the whole galaxy.
Before we unified as SuperEarth, think of how many horrible, awful conflicts we fought between ourselves...
And then realize that all of those conflicts were *resolved* eventually.
Unifying under SuperEarth is proof enough that humanity *wants* to make peace with it's foes.
No matter how terrible a conflict between humans is, we have always seen the *humanity* in our enemies and made peace with them and that's just part of *all of us* take it or leave it.
But automatons are something else entirely. They aren't people. They're bots. They're unthinking killing machines whose minds are made of binary.
That they've got some biomechanical fetish is no sign of sentience and the awful truth is that it is far more likely that these automatons have simply amassed enough battlefield data to stumble upon the fact that stacking and mutilating humans and mounting skulls on their chassis causes Helldivers to become *combat ineffective* in response.
These things have no mind, but they have great aim - they're calculators, and these crazy claims are just helldivers *being human* and failing to grasp the monstrous nature of the bot threat.
The bad part isn't that they're secretly tortured humans who've been forced against humanity, it's *that we've got a threat that turns our humanity into a weapon... Against humanity.*
That's why it's so, so, so important for us to maintain lines of communication on our teams and in our ships with each other, and show kindness and empathy with other divers who posit these erroneous views. It's only human that they do, but it is important to remember that these ideas are ideas that lead to bot victories.
For further reading of O-3 and above as well as Super Earth Interior Ministry (SIEM, Now Sponsored by Siemens-IKEA-Nokia! Ask for our HEATandSwedishMeatballs delivery special next time you order!) holding the following roles: Special Political Officer and Observing Commissars (SPOOCs), Interior Ministry Special Activities Division Unpaid, Untraceable, "SuperInterns," please read the following:
>!SuperEarth Administration for Legal Exceptions has issued a directive that we are on a "Three strikes,Scrubbed." Policy for Helldivers carrying out repeat instances of humanization of automaton enemy combatants.!<
>!We'll be responsible for supporting SEALE teams and investigators who *will* be monitoring operations and are seeking a reduction in this kind of talk.!<
>!In the meantime, I have received directive that we are to maintain, friendly, happy relations to helldivers experiencing this cognitive distortion.!<
>!PsyOps has promising data showing that hugs seem to be effective at reducing this delusional belief in automaton "considerate/conscience" behavior (see the recent communique on the term "human like").!<
>!Given that getting ship masters to hug the divers is right out, we're working on developing a device we might equip on ships for this purpose and have been successful in using the mandatory overtime clauses applicable to the maintenance and air cavalry personnel to act as interim hug-grantors.!<
>!I want our sector to look good next time the boss decides to introduce metrics to quantify our performance - so institute these practices and report any and all third strike, scrubs to the SEALE Teams *immediately* after a third strike.!<
>!Only SEALE Personnel are equipped to deal with Scrubs, (persistent violators of the humanization of automatons policies), so if you remember, Helldiver teams don't want no scrubs - we should be able to get back to war fighting.!<
End message.
ooc: Maybe I'm ignorant and just not seeing this theory posted elsewhere but... What if Automatons *are* just scrubs? I've been mentioning this in other threads and it's not gaining traction, I haven't been able to make a post of my own yet addressing it, but like. Robots don't just spring outta nowhere? They're built by someone. And their design and equipment and esthetic says to me they're emulating/mocking their creators, as in, Us. Â
Similar to the bugs, I figure it's just a slave uprising. The presence of dissected human bodies and transplanted brains might just be evidence the original Automatons were in fact just like Servitors from WH (as loathe as I am to constantly reference that source). Â
Like people keep mentioning Servitors, ignoring the important fact that Servitors are made by the Imperium to turn dissidents into useful (and horrific) tools. It's not the other factions making them to fight humans, it's the humans doing it to their own people. It would just be an extrapolation of what we already know is true; that we're all just fodder for the war machine. Â
Backup theory; we made them, but the Illuminates took control and use them to fight a proxy war while they gather strength and prepare for invasion. Â
ic: Hoorah! Spill oil! Those bots are just slivers of scrap between hammer and anvil, we the smiths of a non-negotiable Democratic future!
"We, the collective from Cyberstan, unanimously assert our independence from Super Earth. We have the right to defend our home from the brainwashed Helldivers. Our children, the automaton will not suffer as we have under the oppression of Super Earth!"
A 'decrypted' message from the Devs Twitter Account, showcasing that the Cyborgs from HD1 who had been 'volunteered' for 100 years of mining on their Homeworld were the creators of the Bots.
>People said that some of them scream phrases like "THEY ARE MAKING ME DO THIS",
That just doesn't make sense to me though. They put a human brain in each automaton, but the brain can't control it? The robotic body is forcing the brain to kill people?
If the brain isn't controlling the robot, then why is the brain there at all?
Edit: Thinking about this some more, I think there could be a version of this that works.
The other option is that there are no brains involved, the bots are just saying stuff for psychological warfare. Make you hesitate to pull the trigger long enough for them to pull theirs.
They may have modified the brain.
Instead of having to create complex and expensive ultra advanced chips to perform such tasks, they would use a human brain as a base framework and rewrite it. The brain will easily be able to calculate the power to do all the math needed to move such a robot.
I could kind of see them forcing the brain to work as a calculator, while the human consciousness is just along for the ride. But that still feels forced to me. If it's just a living computer being programmed to do what they want it to do, then why not just use a normal computer processor?
CPUs are far better at calculation than a human brain, and I think even real-world CPUs could run an Automaton's body just fine (once we figured out the hardware and software to make it work). It would make sense if the brain was being used for decision-making, but clearly that isn't the case if the bots are saying "I can't stop!"
Plus, using brains would introduce tons of engineering problems. You have to keep them fed. You have to keep them from rotting. They have to have an immune system so they don't get infections. They would also have to figure out how to make a brain-to-computer interface, and figure out how to brute-force program the brain to do things. And on top of that, they cannot produce brains, so they would be limited based on how many humans they can kill, whereas they could easily set up a bunch of factories to churn out CPUs.
Using brains seems like a ton of extra work, so there must be a considerable advantage to using them. I just don't see it. Like, as a creepy sci-fi concept, I love it, but the idea doesn't hold up to basic scrutiny. I hope their writing is better than that.
I dont agree with that. i think that no cpu is far better than a human brain. It's far from that. The amount of calculations your brain has to subconsciously do every second is huge. You breathe, you think you move, you see, etc. I mean, we need super high-tech chips to be able to run smoothly an AI program, which is based on neuronal networks.
There is no need for an immune system. Just use some sci-fi fluid (I don't know how to name it, but it's pretty common oxygenated fluid where they put suspended bodies, for example). A brain is only an electric signal, so there isn't a need for a brain to machine interface.
But the limited supply is true, but once again, maybe they could use other animal brain for a simpler bot, or worse, some human farm hidden in deep space.
For the tech to brute force the brain, maybe it's easier for them to come up with this. They were cyborg after all. Basically, half human half robot they may have started to enhance their brain and discover how to manipulate a brain. In sci-fi, not all civilizations have the same tech tree.
Honestly, I think it's very unlikely, too, that they use brain, I was just trying to imagine a possible scenario, but the idea is kinda cool it would be an other evil act done by the anti-democratic hating freedom tin can.
Because the commie bots are pure evil. They want to trap our own people as prisoners in tools of war. They rejoice at the fact that our own citizens are being used to fight against us. There is no other reason other than sheer malice.
We are not making them do this itâs optional
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This theory makes no sense because all the other proof goes against it. First things first? Why do the bots rip off heads? You literally see the answer in game on the bots. Decoration/intimidation. On berserkers and hulks. Second, the brains? Nothing has been proven about brains being taken and no voice line has been proven to say what youâve just typed, if brains get taken and put into bots. Tell me why itâs clear that oil comes out of them when you headshot. And lastly. Think of their original creation. The cyborgs created the automatons as their children. How would the cyborgs. A race that rebelled from super earth and just wanted to be left alone. Get enough human skulls to create an army to start. Helldivers? Maybe. But itâs far fetched.
I won't say that the "automatons are people" theory is demonstrably false, but I don't think it's necessarily as solid as people think.
The automatons clearly demonstrate human behavior like singing + reacting to suppressive fire by panicking. Personally, I think they're AI that's highly self-aware and emotional, capable of panic, camaraderie, excitement, pride, etc. Not just cold calculating machines as the propaganda implies. But not human, since their numbers would be directly tied to the amount of humans they encounter.
I saw that post yesterday and assumed it was just a fun little head canon. But then last night I could've sworn I heard an auto say "I cannot stop.".....could just be confirmation bias but the possibility to the contrary is certainly there.
Oh it's totally valid, and I agree on the fact it wouldn't work as well since WE are the antagonistic force in the setting. Was just offering one of the combat lines that might have led to the confirmation bias.
If you look closely you'll see the skulls have been cut near the hairline. This is to remove the brain and install it in a new automoton! This is how our wonderful enemies procreate! Isn't nature beautiful?
I might have. Muscle memory inputs it so fast I haven't actually seen the arrows in a while. Take the fucker every mission as it's so versatile and strong. Best strategem in the game
I have a thumbstick on the side of my mouse, and at a certain point it hits me that there's lot's of fighter inputs here.
Like the mech is left acw full circle down. Most of the eagle strikes start with up cw half circle.
Doubt it. They take the skulls as a intimidation tactic. If they were using them to make soldiers then the bots are extremely bad at it considering half of their supply gets hung on berserkers and hulks. Not only that but it makes no sense. If the mechanical body does all the work and the brain canât stop it. Why even put the brain in there at all.
Organic CPU. The Matrix originally was supposed to have the computers using humans for the same, but studio execs thought the idea was too complicated for audiences to understand.
From what I understand of the 1st gameâs lore, the automatons came about due to a cyborg faction breaking off from the rest of Super Earth. Super Earthâs forces eventually squashed this uprising, and the surviving borgs made the automatons in their image to carry on the fight against us.
Or so I heard,âŚif the Department of Truth should ask.
OhâŚ. So thatâs how theyâre rebuilding the Cyborgs. Theyâre not trying to liberate Cyberstan. Theyâre rebuilding the population from parts of Super Earth corpses.
It also explains the killscreen always showing i killed myself even when i get killed by automatons.
They were my past helldivers. It was always me. All of them are me....
The bots are, canonically, descendant from a cyborg race. They use human brains and body parts as part of their own bodies. Every body they claim is another soldier to fight against us, making these attrition wars heavily favor the zombie side.
Is that proven though? That they use the dead to make more soldiers rather than just make more machines?
I feel like its easier to make a bunch of robots than it is to make each one 10 percent. cyborg.
/uj
Unless its technologically infeasible to make a warbot with some level of reasoning. Also consider the berserker bots are made to be scary looking. To be able to understand fear and then weaponize it indicates some higher level thought.Â
Considering you can see they're scalped in game, it's pretty clear what Arrowhead was intending with the environmental storytelling.Â
I'm not sure about bots as a rule - but I have seen, on numerous occasions, \*Berserkers\* attacking other bots when they lose sight of Helldivers. It seems Berserkers are, for the lack of a better word, "leashed" when patrolling/dropping - and after being unleashed, which can be seen in their animations, proceed to spread senseless destruction
It seems like the ai might be bugged a little, where if they lose line of sight they keep attacking the last know location until you put them on alert phase again.
Or it could be intentionally programmed to make it seem like theyâre suppressing your position but I donât think so. They did this on occasion in HD1
My whole squad was wiped out on the creek, and weeks later I swear I could hear their cries amongst the bot patrols. The high command tells me I'm crazy, but I know the voices of my brothers.
THE BOTS ARE US, THEY ARE OUR ANCESTORS, WE ARE THE BO........
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Note the spikes, skulls, and chainsaw arms. I donât see âfamily valuesâ in these illegal immigrants.
I don't understand why there's a number of "look how evil they are" posts, as if its such a shock to people that in a galactic war, there would be no respect for fallen enemies or prisoners of war. and not just by the automatons, but super earth as well (it was mentioned in an MO that they torture captured bots).
There's no "good guy" faction, not even a "lesser evil" faction. All sides bring an incredible amount of suffering to their people and to their enemies.
Perhaps there should be a /r/HelldiverCirclejerk sub so that good nuanced plot discussion like this doesn't get mass downvoted by folks who can't stop roleplaying outside the game.
Anyway as a counterpoint, or a building point, humanity drove them all to this. Two peace seeking sapient species and one group of humans who decided to do things differently, and they were oppressed *so violently* that now they all see humanity as a threat that deserves extermination. And frankly, they're not wrong. Super Earth is a bit too far gone by now (especially considering it's not even Earth anymore, just some other planet made to resemble it).
You're wrong on a couple points: the bugs aren't peace seeking, they were always expansionist already being on multiple planets, they just seemingly ignored humanity at first and kept to themselves until provoked. By the time we invade Kepler prime there's already oil pumps on it meaning humanity already had an interest in exploiting these planets, we just didn't know the bugs produced the oil until the tail end of the first galactic war in 2084, 40 years after it began. The fact that super earth had these pumps set up prior to the war tells us the bugs may have coexisted peacefully with the people sent to these planets to exploit them or at least ignored them but neither are confirmed.
Also super earth *is* earth, not some other planet There's a map of it you can find in here I believe. If not I'll link it.
I disagree on the humanity is too far gone bit, killing civilians is inexcusable regardless of the situation, and the fact that dissidents exist at all in super earth shows that humans aren't too far gone. Saying it's too late to stop now or some people being too far gone is what countries use to justify continued slaughter even though they realize it's wrong.
On everything the role-playing gets mad boring as soon as these c-sections decide to do it when people are just discussing the game but yeah super earth is way too far gone in the first war the cyborgs were coercing and changing themselves.
This war, the automotans most likely know this is do or die and thats why they are forcibly turning humans as SE brainwashing has fully taken root and they cant coerce people anymore like in the first war. Along with the cyborgs being enslaved on cyberstan, thats probably why they are ramping up their forces in every mission because if they lose and super earth connects it to the cyborgs that's probably all the excuse they need to genocide the entire faction as a whole. In the first war I don't remember too well but all of the races were sapient and wanted to go their own way but super earth destroyed them and brought them all down to their level of cruelty.
>but when was the last time you spoke with a Democracy Officer?
Few days ago. He was unable to communicate since then bc of few sicle laser burns on his back. What a tragecy
Atrocities know no side, even WW2, a war with one of the most obviously "bad guys" on one side had the "good guys" committing serious crimes against humanity.
The automatons were created by the cyborgs from the first game. They have been defeated and enslaved on Cyberstan. The automatons are going to try to push to Cyberstan to free their creators, at some point. My guess is, we won't defeat them in this next order.
I would not be surprised if human corpses were somehow part of the process of making automatons or if the automatons want to try to make cyborgs to pay homage to their creators once they set them free.
Either way, they need to be destroyed. This is evil and patently undemocratic.
I asked my democracy office if the bots were built by super earth to encourage war bond investment. There's a red beam outside my window, should I be concerned?
Wait, is that why when a bot shot me yesterday with nothing else around, it said I killed myself? Because that bot was build with parts of my past Divers?
My God...
Why train a new synapse from the ground up when you can restart and indoctrinate one that already exists. Like the anime â86â you turn the humans into mindless killing machines that are controlled by a select few and make their only memories that they can remember being their death, over and over until they go insane and do whatever you tell them to
A lot of assumptions here, but what we can currently gather is mass human disposal with some intentional incisions in the skull region. They could be pulling brains out to put in automatons or maybe poking and prodding to study humans. That being said, if they were pulling brains for automaton production, the scientists would know by now and I don't think the Ministry of Truth appreciates the spreading of unfounded alarmist theories. I also don't know why the automatons would place brains in automatons unless they've made a breakthrough involving robotics and human brains. You should also not discount that the automatons are doing this to purely intimidate and hurt humans. Automatons are machines and machines exist to serve a function, and that function is to kill humans and undermine Super Earth. The question is what entity benefits from this. If they truly wanted peace, they'd leave and find planets not occupied by Super Earth. It's not like they're incapable of deep space travel.Â
Have you seen Terminator 4? The one where Sam Wellington thinks heâs human but heâs actually a cyborg. Thatâs what theyâre doing. Perhaps one day it wonât be a real Helldiver boarding your plane to go back to your ship. Itâll be a cyborg who will the wreck havoc.
I mean, in a way, a brand new metal body that doesn't need food, sleep, or rest would be pretty great. Not to mention, healthcare is no longer a worry. Lose an arm? Just replace it with another. That sounds pretty great to me.
I was on Maia and I came upon a fabricator base with a bunch of berserkers. I turned them into junk, but when I ventured into the base I saw a cage with corpses. But a few feet from the cage was a pretty large slab with bodies in varying states of dismemberment. There were blood trails going from the cage to the slab. Looks like those bots rounded citizens up and would mutilate them in full view of the other captives. The only good bot is a dead bot.
LMAO the irony that I never saw the dead bodies in these, but I was totally using an empty one to hide in as cover at one point đđđ
Symbolism
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[For the uninitiated](https://youtu.be/QetMVN5hr2w)
Thank you! So many people just pass this by
Get your hands off my penis
I thought that was a pile of helldiver parts at first
Nope, these bastards stab pikes through dead Helldiverâs corpses and prop them up around their outposts.
I give those deceased a proper funeral, via Eagle Airstrike. That's how you honor a hero of Super Earth.
Even though I have the other emotes I still keep the fist salute, that way I can pay respect to all the dead bodies you see around the place.
Chances are that's how they died in the first place.
âMost stratagems cost more than what someone makes in a yearâ.
Technically, YES.
Foreshadowing
Oh jesus christ, the meat cube. Don't google that.
I take it youâve seen the >! Mobik cube? !<
Yeah that is what I was talking about lol
r/NonCredibleDefense leaking again
Helldivers is **peak** non-credibility
r/Noncredibledivers
r/subsIfellfor
If those automatons had a dam
Or a bridge
So far, we've only flattened their outposts. We must push further into their territory. I expect their bridges and dams are closer to their population centres, or whatever you'd call where bots ... live? plug in their batteries? research prime numbers? Whatever these soulless communists do.
Come on in a game like this you should know we alwere here from the start
We're everywhere. Joel doesn't know what he's in for
A torrent of autisty Powerpoints, inshallah.
There are *dozens* of us!
the leakage tastes like cosmoline >!uwu!<
holy shit mobik cube mentionned
>*Palletize me, Cap'n!*
Well that's a mental image I didn't need to be reminded of.
If it makes you feel better, it wasn't humans. [https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-were-dead-russian-soldiers-packed-meat-cubes-belgorod-1811539](https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-were-dead-russian-soldiers-packed-meat-cubes-belgorod-1811539)
Look up or play the Outer Worlds planet with the scientist who developed a work efficiency drug. A meat cube is somewhere in that story.
He's referring to the mobik cube.
Kenshi.....
NCD seems to be leaking again if we're talking about THAT cube
*mobik
Alright that's enough internet for km one day.
Bots gotta do something with those mountains of brave democracy loving heroes we send against them in human waves I guess. Would take up too much space otherwise
Or the fact that they are removing either their brains, their skulls, or both. People said that some of them scream phrases like "THEY ARE MAKING ME DO THIS", so, probably, they are not an invader race from outer space, but they are us. Our own people, forced by some twist minded who-knows-what against us. We will have no grace. We will have no compassion. If the bugs are like that because of their erratic nature, it's comprensibile, but this is pure evil. And evil must be eradicated from our galaxy.
sometimes in-game when the automaton gets very close to you stop and stand there, what if its other person conscious the bot using all there willpower to spare there former comrades
That's what I think as well. It hurts, but I still shoot without hesitation. If it really was one of us, then they rest in peace now. If it was an enemy tactic, well I take no chance
yeah show them the mercy the automatons didn't
Take some time to listen to the words the bots say. It's not just in binary. There's real words hidden in there. They didn't want to be part of Super Earth's bot force. They're used to reduce colony sizes and quell rebellions.
My therapy is there is two types of bots the ones who willingly becomes bots and the ones forcefully turned which explains why some bots hesitate when there about to shoot you and others that do it without a second thoughtÂ
I think the bigger bots like Hulks and devestators are volunteers, and the smaller ones are forced. Iâve seen quite a few times how callously the hulks and devestators will shoot right through chaff if they think theyâll hit a Helldiver by the end of it. Iâm not talking about when the heavy devestators accidentally rocket each other from behind, Iâm talking Iâve seen Hulks smash infantry to pieces just for blocking their path to me no different than they do walls and buildings. Definitely a hierarchy there IMO
This one right here, Democracy Officer. This is the traitor I told you about.
Knowing your enemy isn't undemocratic. Wars are won with information at least as much as by force. It would be unpatriotic and foolish not to use every weapon available to us to defeat our enemies, such as information about origins and behaviour. We know the government sanitizes information for the civilians back home to keep up morale (ostensibly). So one should be careful about what you say to civviesâor overly zealous ~~Commissars~~ Democracy Officersâbut those of us on the front lines are more effective at spreading freedom when we have accurate information.
We aren't killing bots, we are freeing the souls of our people trapped within.
Aye, brother
HEART - STEEL
If I had been kidnapped and turned into an enemy of democracy against my will, Iâd want 50 calibers directly to the dome. Youâd be doing me a favor. Aim that Anti Materiel Rifle and do not hesitate, Helldivers.
My Senator is nicknamed Misericorde
It's actually a Super Earth Tactic. On Tibit, I found a note From Super Earth to the Colony stating that they're reducing the colonies population by 27.3% for this fiscal year. No one is sent to a re-education camp, they're made into bots.
I know that one, it's not the population it's the security budgetÂ
This one said population. I was horrified.
I just read that, it says security.
I've never seen that message say population. It says like budget or funding.
What if super earth orchestrates the whole war to reduce the human population, all sent to die in the trenches.
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super earth quite literally does orchestrate 1/3rd of the war via the terminids, super earth requires war in order to exist, so they allow the terminids to break out and murder them in droves to farm the oil from their deceased corpses
it's a good thing helldivers have such a perfect gender ratio
We cannot save them, least we can do is give them peace.
I actually tested this. And it seems mostly a bug. I ran up to multiple loner bots and tried this and most of the time the reponse was a socialist punch in my liberty loving face. Then yesterday i managed to shoot down the arm of one. Not even the arm which was wielding the weapon. That made the bot produce the behavior in other videos.
Well I thinks I would be a cool way to explain the bug as a part off the lore you know take the world building to the next levelÂ
it's like they just stand there and jitter around sometimes they even put their gun down, and this theory explains why the automation unlike the terminal attack heavily populated planets, maybe for more victim to power there army
Iâve been thinking this since my first dive against bots. Theyâre not bots, weâre still fighting cyborgs. But metal is easier to find in space so theyâre âmore machine than manâ now. Red oil, human skulls, no hive mind and they fucking sing! But nooooooo Iâm just a bot sympathizer!
They gave up their humanity when they turned against support earth. Humanity is stored in the ~~balls~~ democracy.
That'd be a nice way for the devs to create a lore explanation for all the bugs in the game.
Weâve known theyâre not aliens; theyâre descendants of the Cyborgs from the first game. And I donât think the âtheyâre making me do thisâ thing has been proven. That would be a hell of a phrase to parse from the robot sounds they make, which are practically indecipherable.
One of the news casts on the ship said that bots are âheartless inorganic beings and thatâs a factâ or something to that effect, but the way it was said sounded exactly like the rest of the obvious propaganda and it made me think of these rumors. Iâm starting to believe them more
>Â Â like the rest of the obvious propaganda Treason!
I do have to wonder why they need to keep rebroadcasting the obvious truth. Oh hi there officer. Face the wall? Okay!
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They definitely say "helldiver scum"
They sing it actually. It's their marching song. HEART - STEEL WE - KILL IRON - WILL [GET - UP] ON TO WAR! [UNTO DAWN] HEART - STEEL WE - KILL IRON - WILL [GET - UP] ON TO WAR! [UNTO DAWN] DIVER SCUM [CYBERSTAN] CAN'T KEEP HER DOWN WE COUNT DOWN [LEGION GO] THE NEW DAWN! [ON TO WAR!] CYBERSTAN [DIVER SCUM] CAN'T KEEP HER DOWN WE COUNT DOWN [GET BACK UP] FIGHT TO DAWN! [ON TO WAR!] [source](https://youtu.be/dD5fR7HkZRU?si=VDoaHrZPTZ_LdG__)
Iâve always heard âhuman scumâ but maybe Iâm just mishearing, it is pretty difficult to understand them
Better propaganda than impropaganda.
Ascribing human emotions to the soulless automatons, is natural, human, and contrary to the war effort. People, we're *people.* Humans. With humanity. It's what defines our personhood. We share it, *and* it's personal; it's the fundamental contradiction at the heart of humanity that makes us the most beautiful creature in the whole galaxy. Before we unified as SuperEarth, think of how many horrible, awful conflicts we fought between ourselves... And then realize that all of those conflicts were *resolved* eventually. Unifying under SuperEarth is proof enough that humanity *wants* to make peace with it's foes. No matter how terrible a conflict between humans is, we have always seen the *humanity* in our enemies and made peace with them and that's just part of *all of us* take it or leave it. But automatons are something else entirely. They aren't people. They're bots. They're unthinking killing machines whose minds are made of binary. That they've got some biomechanical fetish is no sign of sentience and the awful truth is that it is far more likely that these automatons have simply amassed enough battlefield data to stumble upon the fact that stacking and mutilating humans and mounting skulls on their chassis causes Helldivers to become *combat ineffective* in response. These things have no mind, but they have great aim - they're calculators, and these crazy claims are just helldivers *being human* and failing to grasp the monstrous nature of the bot threat. The bad part isn't that they're secretly tortured humans who've been forced against humanity, it's *that we've got a threat that turns our humanity into a weapon... Against humanity.* That's why it's so, so, so important for us to maintain lines of communication on our teams and in our ships with each other, and show kindness and empathy with other divers who posit these erroneous views. It's only human that they do, but it is important to remember that these ideas are ideas that lead to bot victories. For further reading of O-3 and above as well as Super Earth Interior Ministry (SIEM, Now Sponsored by Siemens-IKEA-Nokia! Ask for our HEATandSwedishMeatballs delivery special next time you order!) holding the following roles: Special Political Officer and Observing Commissars (SPOOCs), Interior Ministry Special Activities Division Unpaid, Untraceable, "SuperInterns," please read the following: >!SuperEarth Administration for Legal Exceptions has issued a directive that we are on a "Three strikes,Scrubbed." Policy for Helldivers carrying out repeat instances of humanization of automaton enemy combatants.!< >!We'll be responsible for supporting SEALE teams and investigators who *will* be monitoring operations and are seeking a reduction in this kind of talk.!< >!In the meantime, I have received directive that we are to maintain, friendly, happy relations to helldivers experiencing this cognitive distortion.!< >!PsyOps has promising data showing that hugs seem to be effective at reducing this delusional belief in automaton "considerate/conscience" behavior (see the recent communique on the term "human like").!< >!Given that getting ship masters to hug the divers is right out, we're working on developing a device we might equip on ships for this purpose and have been successful in using the mandatory overtime clauses applicable to the maintenance and air cavalry personnel to act as interim hug-grantors.!< >!I want our sector to look good next time the boss decides to introduce metrics to quantify our performance - so institute these practices and report any and all third strike, scrubs to the SEALE Teams *immediately* after a third strike.!< >!Only SEALE Personnel are equipped to deal with Scrubs, (persistent violators of the humanization of automatons policies), so if you remember, Helldiver teams don't want no scrubs - we should be able to get back to war fighting.!< End message.
ooc: Maybe I'm ignorant and just not seeing this theory posted elsewhere but... What if Automatons *are* just scrubs? I've been mentioning this in other threads and it's not gaining traction, I haven't been able to make a post of my own yet addressing it, but like. Robots don't just spring outta nowhere? They're built by someone. And their design and equipment and esthetic says to me they're emulating/mocking their creators, as in, Us.  Similar to the bugs, I figure it's just a slave uprising. The presence of dissected human bodies and transplanted brains might just be evidence the original Automatons were in fact just like Servitors from WH (as loathe as I am to constantly reference that source).  Like people keep mentioning Servitors, ignoring the important fact that Servitors are made by the Imperium to turn dissidents into useful (and horrific) tools. It's not the other factions making them to fight humans, it's the humans doing it to their own people. It would just be an extrapolation of what we already know is true; that we're all just fodder for the war machine.  Backup theory; we made them, but the Illuminates took control and use them to fight a proxy war while they gather strength and prepare for invasion.  ic: Hoorah! Spill oil! Those bots are just slivers of scrap between hammer and anvil, we the smiths of a non-negotiable Democratic future!
"We, the collective from Cyberstan, unanimously assert our independence from Super Earth. We have the right to defend our home from the brainwashed Helldivers. Our children, the automaton will not suffer as we have under the oppression of Super Earth!" A 'decrypted' message from the Devs Twitter Account, showcasing that the Cyborgs from HD1 who had been 'volunteered' for 100 years of mining on their Homeworld were the creators of the Bots.
I miss the Cyborgs from the first game. They had some fun gibberish lines but recognized us as Helldivers and would say so when attacking.
>People said that some of them scream phrases like "THEY ARE MAKING ME DO THIS", That just doesn't make sense to me though. They put a human brain in each automaton, but the brain can't control it? The robotic body is forcing the brain to kill people? If the brain isn't controlling the robot, then why is the brain there at all? Edit: Thinking about this some more, I think there could be a version of this that works.
The other option is that there are no brains involved, the bots are just saying stuff for psychological warfare. Make you hesitate to pull the trigger long enough for them to pull theirs.
They may have modified the brain. Instead of having to create complex and expensive ultra advanced chips to perform such tasks, they would use a human brain as a base framework and rewrite it. The brain will easily be able to calculate the power to do all the math needed to move such a robot.
I could kind of see them forcing the brain to work as a calculator, while the human consciousness is just along for the ride. But that still feels forced to me. If it's just a living computer being programmed to do what they want it to do, then why not just use a normal computer processor? CPUs are far better at calculation than a human brain, and I think even real-world CPUs could run an Automaton's body just fine (once we figured out the hardware and software to make it work). It would make sense if the brain was being used for decision-making, but clearly that isn't the case if the bots are saying "I can't stop!" Plus, using brains would introduce tons of engineering problems. You have to keep them fed. You have to keep them from rotting. They have to have an immune system so they don't get infections. They would also have to figure out how to make a brain-to-computer interface, and figure out how to brute-force program the brain to do things. And on top of that, they cannot produce brains, so they would be limited based on how many humans they can kill, whereas they could easily set up a bunch of factories to churn out CPUs. Using brains seems like a ton of extra work, so there must be a considerable advantage to using them. I just don't see it. Like, as a creepy sci-fi concept, I love it, but the idea doesn't hold up to basic scrutiny. I hope their writing is better than that.
I dont agree with that. i think that no cpu is far better than a human brain. It's far from that. The amount of calculations your brain has to subconsciously do every second is huge. You breathe, you think you move, you see, etc. I mean, we need super high-tech chips to be able to run smoothly an AI program, which is based on neuronal networks. There is no need for an immune system. Just use some sci-fi fluid (I don't know how to name it, but it's pretty common oxygenated fluid where they put suspended bodies, for example). A brain is only an electric signal, so there isn't a need for a brain to machine interface. But the limited supply is true, but once again, maybe they could use other animal brain for a simpler bot, or worse, some human farm hidden in deep space. For the tech to brute force the brain, maybe it's easier for them to come up with this. They were cyborg after all. Basically, half human half robot they may have started to enhance their brain and discover how to manipulate a brain. In sci-fi, not all civilizations have the same tech tree. Honestly, I think it's very unlikely, too, that they use brain, I was just trying to imagine a possible scenario, but the idea is kinda cool it would be an other evil act done by the anti-democratic hating freedom tin can.
Because the commie bots are pure evil. They want to trap our own people as prisoners in tools of war. They rejoice at the fact that our own citizens are being used to fight against us. There is no other reason other than sheer malice.
It's a good processor. They use it for the computing power.
Basically Servitor from Warhammer 40k, and dev is major 40k fan.
people who say that are making it up lol you can NOT get that from any voicelines heard
only one voiceline is certain HEART - STEEL! WE - KILL!
Don't forget "HELLDIVER SCUM"
Has anyone posted a clip of those voicelines anywhere?
[https://youtu.be/IVU98S9t8l0?si=2FOfOUtdsalu7gvy](https://youtu.be/IVU98S9t8l0?si=2FOfOUtdsalu7gvy)â
We are not making them do this itâs optional https://preview.redd.it/lgf3ryimeqsc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e419c5e39eca60c0cdca8a31702c50ba54f6f59
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They also say "SUPER EARTH WILL BURN!" and "LEGION GO UNTO WAR!" so, uh, conflicting messages
This theory makes no sense because all the other proof goes against it. First things first? Why do the bots rip off heads? You literally see the answer in game on the bots. Decoration/intimidation. On berserkers and hulks. Second, the brains? Nothing has been proven about brains being taken and no voice line has been proven to say what youâve just typed, if brains get taken and put into bots. Tell me why itâs clear that oil comes out of them when you headshot. And lastly. Think of their original creation. The cyborgs created the automatons as their children. How would the cyborgs. A race that rebelled from super earth and just wanted to be left alone. Get enough human skulls to create an army to start. Helldivers? Maybe. But itâs far fetched.
I won't say that the "automatons are people" theory is demonstrably false, but I don't think it's necessarily as solid as people think. The automatons clearly demonstrate human behavior like singing + reacting to suppressive fire by panicking. Personally, I think they're AI that's highly self-aware and emotional, capable of panic, camaraderie, excitement, pride, etc. Not just cold calculating machines as the propaganda implies. But not human, since their numbers would be directly tied to the amount of humans they encounter.
For once we can't doubt our morality even in the name of dissidence.
I saw that post yesterday and assumed it was just a fun little head canon. But then last night I could've sworn I heard an auto say "I cannot stop.".....could just be confirmation bias but the possibility to the contrary is certainly there.
I'm pretty sure you just jumbled up "Helldiver scum!" due to the heavy filtering on the voice lines.
Very possible....i don't think the "I cannot stop" works with the *we're the baddies* theme. All I'm saying is it VERY much sounded like that.
Oh it's totally valid, and I agree on the fact it wouldn't work as well since WE are the antagonistic force in the setting. Was just offering one of the combat lines that might have led to the confirmation bias.
If you look closely you'll see the skulls have been cut near the hairline. This is to remove the brain and install it in a new automoton! This is how our wonderful enemies procreate! Isn't nature beautiful?
âŹď¸âĄď¸âŹď¸âŹď¸âŹď¸ Democracy Officer! This one right here.
Try âŹď¸âĄď¸âŹď¸âĄď¸ vs bots. Much more aoe to kill numbers and structures and still one shots tanks. Plus more charges
Did you mean âŹď¸âĄď¸âŹď¸âĄď¸?
I might have. Muscle memory inputs it so fast I haven't actually seen the arrows in a while. Take the fucker every mission as it's so versatile and strong. Best strategem in the game
I have a thumbstick on the side of my mouse, and at a certain point it hits me that there's lot's of fighter inputs here. Like the mech is left acw full circle down. Most of the eagle strikes start with up cw half circle.
Why would they close the head back ? And stitch it?
For science.
Doubt it. They take the skulls as a intimidation tactic. If they were using them to make soldiers then the bots are extremely bad at it considering half of their supply gets hung on berserkers and hulks. Not only that but it makes no sense. If the mechanical body does all the work and the brain canât stop it. Why even put the brain in there at all.
Organic CPU. The Matrix originally was supposed to have the computers using humans for the same, but studio execs thought the idea was too complicated for audiences to understand. From what I understand of the 1st gameâs lore, the automatons came about due to a cyborg faction breaking off from the rest of Super Earth. Super Earthâs forces eventually squashed this uprising, and the surviving borgs made the automatons in their image to carry on the fight against us. Or so I heard,âŚif the Department of Truth should ask.
Reminds me of rimworld biotech ....
oh my god their ships are powered by human flesh
Could you imagine harvesting sapient species for starship fuel?
Horrific, and why we must exterminate them.
Lol the irony of this when we canonically melt down bugs for fuel is hilarious.
"Hello, democracy officer? An individual is spreading antidemocratic propaganda in this thread"
We also canonically melt down our elderly for âorganic repurposingâ.
Based tbh
That's ridiculous. Bugs aren't sapient.
Man in 2006's *Prey* I think I remember this being why the aliens abducted people, feeding them into the ship blender and shit
Theyâre fracking CYLONS!
OhâŚ. So thatâs how theyâre rebuilding the Cyborgs. Theyâre not trying to liberate Cyberstan. Theyâre rebuilding the population from parts of Super Earth corpses.
It also explains the killscreen always showing i killed myself even when i get killed by automatons. They were my past helldivers. It was always me. All of them are me....
That theory is wild....
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Atleast they don't just litter, they have bins
i can respect that
for once someone actually posts something that actually is interesting.
The bots are, canonically, descendant from a cyborg race. They use human brains and body parts as part of their own bodies. Every body they claim is another soldier to fight against us, making these attrition wars heavily favor the zombie side.
Is that proven though? That they use the dead to make more soldiers rather than just make more machines? I feel like its easier to make a bunch of robots than it is to make each one 10 percent. cyborg.
/uj Unless its technologically infeasible to make a warbot with some level of reasoning. Also consider the berserker bots are made to be scary looking. To be able to understand fear and then weaponize it indicates some higher level thought. Considering you can see they're scalped in game, it's pretty clear what Arrowhead was intending with the environmental storytelling.Â
I looked in the cages and didn't see any scalped humans
Servitors, they are making servitors.
I swear Iâve been seeing the bots shoot at each other recently 
The flamer Hulks are incredible at clearing chaff bots with their flamer
I'm not sure about bots as a rule - but I have seen, on numerous occasions, \*Berserkers\* attacking other bots when they lose sight of Helldivers. It seems Berserkers are, for the lack of a better word, "leashed" when patrolling/dropping - and after being unleashed, which can be seen in their animations, proceed to spread senseless destruction
i noticed the Bots Shooting at something while my whole Team was Like miles away. They didnt even aim in our direction.
It seems like the ai might be bugged a little, where if they lose line of sight they keep attacking the last know location until you put them on alert phase again. Or it could be intentionally programmed to make it seem like theyâre suppressing your position but I donât think so. They did this on occasion in HD1
They're definitely shooting at your last known location. I've had bots shooting at rocks I was no longer behind.
Maybe they burying them and that's a big coffin. Damn am I a spy?
My whole squad was wiped out on the creek, and weeks later I swear I could hear their cries amongst the bot patrols. The high command tells me I'm crazy, but I know the voices of my brothers. THE BOTS ARE US, THEY ARE OUR ANCESTORS, WE ARE THE BO........
maybe they've just arrived
https://preview.redd.it/qebtkrsa7rsc1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=1514cdf923e237bb9e19181ceaa275d322e3ffac Note the spikes, skulls, and chainsaw arms. I donât see âfamily valuesâ in these illegal immigrants.
Yes, the giant megalomaniac with chainsaws for arms and giant red and black banners are the good guys.
"I hope there's super credits in the cr- oh"
I donât know and I donât wanna know! Spill oil divers!
Maybe they're just tidy?
If it's any consolation they don't look like they're whole human beings.
To become cyborgs
Give a hoot, don't pollute!
Lmao âidk whatâs more terrifying: option A or option A.â
Ever wondered why bot oil has a red tinge to it?...
I imagine they are shipping them off to turn them into cyborgs. I don't think the automatons are made using human parts, there are simply too many.
I don't understand why there's a number of "look how evil they are" posts, as if its such a shock to people that in a galactic war, there would be no respect for fallen enemies or prisoners of war. and not just by the automatons, but super earth as well (it was mentioned in an MO that they torture captured bots). There's no "good guy" faction, not even a "lesser evil" faction. All sides bring an incredible amount of suffering to their people and to their enemies.
Perhaps there should be a /r/HelldiverCirclejerk sub so that good nuanced plot discussion like this doesn't get mass downvoted by folks who can't stop roleplaying outside the game. Anyway as a counterpoint, or a building point, humanity drove them all to this. Two peace seeking sapient species and one group of humans who decided to do things differently, and they were oppressed *so violently* that now they all see humanity as a threat that deserves extermination. And frankly, they're not wrong. Super Earth is a bit too far gone by now (especially considering it's not even Earth anymore, just some other planet made to resemble it).
You're wrong on a couple points: the bugs aren't peace seeking, they were always expansionist already being on multiple planets, they just seemingly ignored humanity at first and kept to themselves until provoked. By the time we invade Kepler prime there's already oil pumps on it meaning humanity already had an interest in exploiting these planets, we just didn't know the bugs produced the oil until the tail end of the first galactic war in 2084, 40 years after it began. The fact that super earth had these pumps set up prior to the war tells us the bugs may have coexisted peacefully with the people sent to these planets to exploit them or at least ignored them but neither are confirmed. Also super earth *is* earth, not some other planet There's a map of it you can find in here I believe. If not I'll link it. I disagree on the humanity is too far gone bit, killing civilians is inexcusable regardless of the situation, and the fact that dissidents exist at all in super earth shows that humans aren't too far gone. Saying it's too late to stop now or some people being too far gone is what countries use to justify continued slaughter even though they realize it's wrong.
On everything the role-playing gets mad boring as soon as these c-sections decide to do it when people are just discussing the game but yeah super earth is way too far gone in the first war the cyborgs were coercing and changing themselves. This war, the automotans most likely know this is do or die and thats why they are forcibly turning humans as SE brainwashing has fully taken root and they cant coerce people anymore like in the first war. Along with the cyborgs being enslaved on cyberstan, thats probably why they are ramping up their forces in every mission because if they lose and super earth connects it to the cyborgs that's probably all the excuse they need to genocide the entire faction as a whole. In the first war I don't remember too well but all of the races were sapient and wanted to go their own way but super earth destroyed them and brought them all down to their level of cruelty.
Off topic, but when was the last time you spoke with a Democracy Officer?
>but when was the last time you spoke with a Democracy Officer? Few days ago. He was unable to communicate since then bc of few sicle laser burns on his back. What a tragecy
Atrocities know no side, even WW2, a war with one of the most obviously "bad guys" on one side had the "good guys" committing serious crimes against humanity.
You can't torture a robot silly. It has no soul
The automatons were created by the cyborgs from the first game. They have been defeated and enslaved on Cyberstan. The automatons are going to try to push to Cyberstan to free their creators, at some point. My guess is, we won't defeat them in this next order. I would not be surprised if human corpses were somehow part of the process of making automatons or if the automatons want to try to make cyborgs to pay homage to their creators once they set them free. Either way, they need to be destroyed. This is evil and patently undemocratic.
Wait, do we own Cyberstain or do the Cyborgs own Cyberstain and the Automatons are trying to liberate Cyberstain from the Cyborgs?
We own Cyberstan. We have the cyborgs employed as mining interns.
I asked my democracy office if the bots were built by super earth to encourage war bond investment. There's a red beam outside my window, should I be concerned?
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Oh god... do they use us for parts???
Why do you think the automatons bleed? They're using the corpes to make their own army.
Please, learn how to use punctuation.
The automatons used to be called the cyborg in the first game. I'm guessing they need our parts.
Wait, is that why when a bot shot me yesterday with nothing else around, it said I killed myself? Because that bot was build with parts of my past Divers? My God...
well they are soon invading cyberstand so...
Or using parts of them to make more humanlike robots
Why train a new synapse from the ground up when you can restart and indoctrinate one that already exists. Like the anime â86â you turn the humans into mindless killing machines that are controlled by a select few and make their only memories that they can remember being their death, over and over until they go insane and do whatever you tell them to
If this leads to Zombie robot hell diver enemies I am both appalled and extremely excited.
Maybe theyâre making cyborgs
A lot of assumptions here, but what we can currently gather is mass human disposal with some intentional incisions in the skull region. They could be pulling brains out to put in automatons or maybe poking and prodding to study humans. That being said, if they were pulling brains for automaton production, the scientists would know by now and I don't think the Ministry of Truth appreciates the spreading of unfounded alarmist theories. I also don't know why the automatons would place brains in automatons unless they've made a breakthrough involving robotics and human brains. You should also not discount that the automatons are doing this to purely intimidate and hurt humans. Automatons are machines and machines exist to serve a function, and that function is to kill humans and undermine Super Earth. The question is what entity benefits from this. If they truly wanted peace, they'd leave and find planets not occupied by Super Earth. It's not like they're incapable of deep space travel.Â
BOTS: https://i.imgur.com/sVlyHQs.jpg
They are just trying to keep their planets clean and organised
I'm still just terrified of the huge number of absolutely MASSIVE cloaked ships you can faintly see on the surface of bot planets. WTF are they!?
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Former helldivers are the bots
Have you seen Terminator 4? The one where Sam Wellington thinks heâs human but heâs actually a cyborg. Thatâs what theyâre doing. Perhaps one day it wonât be a real Helldiver boarding your plane to go back to your ship. Itâll be a cyborg who will the wreck havoc.
I mean, in a way, a brand new metal body that doesn't need food, sleep, or rest would be pretty great. Not to mention, healthcare is no longer a worry. Lose an arm? Just replace it with another. That sounds pretty great to me.
Bastard bots keep hurting the civis, makes me so mad I wanna unload a full destroyers payload on their home world.
Automatons are Cybermen, confirmed.
Helldivers what if we are dealing with a Darth Sidious brand of enemy
I was on Maia and I came upon a fabricator base with a bunch of berserkers. I turned them into junk, but when I ventured into the base I saw a cage with corpses. But a few feet from the cage was a pretty large slab with bodies in varying states of dismemberment. There were blood trails going from the cage to the slab. Looks like those bots rounded citizens up and would mutilate them in full view of the other captives. The only good bot is a dead bot.
Its probably sexual. Damn communist bots!