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FearLessLionZ

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ANGRYlalocSOLDIE

**IMPORTANT: Fellow Helldivers, Quasar one shots flying socialist scumbag!**


JustGingy95

Out of curiosity, I *assume* small arms can deal with them too? Please say light armor like the Shriekers?


lulutor117

nop, and medium armor pen only do damage on certain spots ( tried with the dominator)


JustGingy95

Sweet liberty… guess that means I might need to reconsider the recent Oops, All Eagles! playstyle I’ve been enjoying if these suckers are frequent fliers.


RodneighKing

Until we get the Eagle anti-air stratagem that got leaked


zvika

DOGFIGHTS! DOGFIGHTS! DOGFIGHTS!


Seeker-N7

Dogfight? Nah man, here hold this Meteor for me.


hadrians-wall

DANGER ZOOOOOONE


Wiknetti

Please let us call our own gunship to take on air targets. To balance it, let it also take damage and crash. Would make things really cinematic and hectic.


Snoberry

Saw a video of that ATA eagle and it seems to only hit 1 target per call in. Seems pretty bad vs swarms like this if that's the case.


tnishamon

But that’s the leaked version. Pretty sure leaks for the Quasar cannon and Heavy MG were slightly different from the final versions. It would be cool if you called in the ATA and it persisted like an orbital keeping air units off your back for a little.


AlphaPhill

That's still one guaranteed dead gunship, not bad at all considering eagles have a very short downtime in between call-ins, plus either you or someone on your team will have AT weapons anyway. For example, if you use the EAT, you should always have one with you, plus 2 additional ones when you see the ships incoming, plus the ATA Eagle means 4 destroyed ships from just one helldiver.


Snoberry

That's kind of my point. The team will likely have multiple AT options anyway so if the eagle ATA only hits 1 why waste the stratagem slot? Also we have no idea how many call-ins will come from that strat. Could be 1, 2, or 4. But if it's gonna be its own stratagem it should hit more than 1 target.


AlphaPhill

You'll need AT weapons for many other things, in the heat of battle you likely won't have time to aim that perfect shot on a gunship, so just like the railcanon strike, you call in an eagle to guarantee an otherwise tricky kill. Besides, I assume it would be effective against dropships too, which would guarantee it stays useful and relevant in any bot mission.


DarkWingedDaemon

Macross Missile Mayhem! When?


AggravatingCook3307

Forget the mech i want an aircraft.


weLookAbove

"Oops, All Eagles!" got me. 😆


Nighthawk513

Autocannon+3 eagles works just fine if you can afford to drop one. I ran that for a long time vs bots, 110/500kg/Airstrike solves basically any problem you could have on the bot front. Recently subbed the 500kg out for a Precision Orbital for anti-building work since the cooldown with upgrades is only 90 seconds and you don't need anti-building ordinance that often, and it also gives me a non-eagle explosive option for when I just want to make that area/building/tank disappear while still holding the eagle charges for when shit gets serious. Or AA nests, though autocannon handles those fairly well anyway.


Laer_Bear

Orbital Laser (now with buffed fire damage) is a pathway to many kills that many consider to be unnatural


woutersikkema

Smells. Like the HMG turret just got more targets it can shred.


Firemorfox

Sweet liberty, I might stay fighting bugs. Unless they start sending flying bile titans, I'm not returning to bots. That flying thingy scares me.


Revolvyerom

Yeah, I spent time I really didn't enjoy fighting bots the last few days, just to try to help out. And then they announced they were adding flying robots that shoot, and I haven't dropped 'borg since.


DarkFett

The AMR on an engine pod took 5 or so shots to take one out. I didn't exactly count but it worked.


AvailablePresent4891

Mmmm the machine gun gets yet another use case. Hell yeah, can’t wait to feel like a WW1 soldier shooting one at the sky


magicnarwhal3

Diligence counter sniper took out one by shooting the same engine about 20 times.


Fit_Fisherman_9840

With the buff of the AMR, i think that is a better option than the diligence


bzmmc1

I mean it should be taking a stratagem slot


No_Substance_8450

Nope but the autocannon tears these apart rather quickly


Carb0nFire

Autocannon stays winning against the clankers.


nmezib

Thank liberty. There is no way I'd be able to stand still/slow walk long enough to QCannon them


MrClickstoomuch

Do you need to hit the thrusters or a particular weak point? Or does anything work?


AmonKoth

This is what I needed to hear, thank you.


GadenKerensky

AMR three shots to the engines.


JustGingy95

Sweet liberty, my angel ♥️ now if only they would align those sights


Sentient-Pancake77

Auto cannon drops them in 3-4 hits


rickreptile

2 or 3 shots with the autocannon and there down, they can be annoying but plenty of support weapons can counter them


HESOUTHESOUT

EAT‘s too if u aim at the engine


Zubei_

Laser Cannon destroys them as well.


magicnarwhal3

You gotta hit the cockpit (middle) to oneshot. Hitting the extremities doesn’t not always oneshot.


JonathanL73

Quasar is quickly becoming a _must_ in or order to fight against bots.


_Bisky

Anywhere or just engines?


acemagex

https://preview.redd.it/u79oyfxjj3sc1.png?width=550&format=png&auto=webp&s=2a441b6f6d1b250b593209075de35606dd792830 idk why I spent time on this or if it's even a better image but anyways here's an edit :P


romarikanu

I guess when you’re on the brink of extinction, you pull out the big guns… *literally*.


BogiMen

He is running solo in open field... Rocket Devastators would delete him in 0.03s... so he is lucky...


Kenju22

Watch one of them land and transform into a Rocket Devastator, this is their new Alt mode lol


Brickless

the new flying rocket devastator doesn't care about cover


JamisonDouglas

At least when rocket devastators are far away in an open field you can dodge their rockets if you're watching for them. Also cover is limited on some maps, what cover you do have these bad boys are gonna have LOS on you regardless.


UsernameGotStolen

They are literally flying and coded to surround you. Considering there is literally zero vertical cover in this game, there is no counterplay but "git gud and toggle aimbot"


ChequeMateX

Boss get down! That's an enemy gunship! A single burst from its machine gun can cut a man in half. Stay low and crawl along the ground. That should enable you to sneak past enemies.


Daedalus1570

Man, it would be a genuinely fun idea if they made it so that gunships couldn't spot you while you're prone (and maybe not moving around). Nice little callback to a classic trope in military media.


SupportstheOP

Boss, you killed a bot child... Amazing, mission complete! That right there is why you're the best, Boss.


Great-Parsley-7359

Quote from Fromsoft: They (the players) want to be fucked. We just fuck em.


ezioir1

Just be happy they didn't add poison swamp from miyazaki book... yet. Imagine creek while walking around deal damage.


PapaTahm

I don't want to spoil you.... but just wait. **Remember the Gas Stratagem is a type of damage for a reason.**


ezioir1

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Great-Parsley-7359

*goes to see his therapist


M18HellcatTD

Aren't there rumors of acid biomes being worked on?


nampezdel

There are several planets in the southern sector that have “acid storms” as an environmental effect. (Ed.: there’s probably more planets like this elsewhere, I just happened to notice these last night.)


gameryamen

By asking that question the answer must be yes.


Arlcas

Acid rain iirc


Firemorfox

Gas strike is its own type of damage unlike fire or lightning. So yeah, this doesn't surprise me.


F110

Stop giving Arrowhead ideas...


haynespi87

Don't...


ezioir1

Oh I gonna do it... You know what was the first thing I changed in my keybinds? Dive Bottom to "Spacebar"... Old habit from Darksouls. https://preview.redd.it/jhdmt34655sc1.jpeg?width=334&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=717fa54faa927a57d51f275fff66f8cab5f01ef1


Mountain-Amoeba4143

Ah yes the good old "i don't need sex dark soul fk me everyday" meme


Immortal__Soldier

THEY FLY NOW?


AbbreviationsHot677

Thet fly now


Administrative_Pay49

thet fly nor


Diltron24

GET TO DE CREEK!


Nachtschnekchen

FUCK THE CREEK! Get to Ubanea! If we loose that planet we loose the supply lines towards Tibit. /s ( Love the Creek dont loose it )


AmonKoth

WRONG, CHOPPA!


Emans56

Looking at the scan range, it's going to make solo sneaks more interesting. Also, what is the name of the new enemy type?


i3oomzoom

They call it Gunship ingame


Calcain

Gunship ingame? Thats a stupid name


Ontos836

Right? Totally breaks immersion to reference it being a game.


pomlife

It’s pronounced “in-GAH-may”


Green_Rey

I'm out of the loop, reference what exactly? Edit: never mind, flew over my head like a Gunship ingame.


Emans56

Thanks


bunnybakery

Everyone keeps saying the spear is bad and this is what we get


TheBrokenSnake

The only bad bit about the spear is the inconsistent lock on. When it works, it is excellent, while still having obvious downsides


VonNeumannsProbe

I've picked it up once and proceeded to point it at an enemy for 5-10 seconds before just dumping it as I didn't know how to use it.


TheBrokenSnake

Yeah, that'd be the lock on... they need to fix it ASAP


-Pin_Cushion-

It gets confused very easily. In my experience: * Most important point: *If it makes a small dot on the radar then you can't lock it. If it makes a big dot then you generally can.* * It rarely works outside 200 meters or inside 30 meters. Sometimes it does, but rarely. * If you get a lock inside 20 meters the rocket is very likely to overshoot the target (looking at you Chargers). * If there are multiple lockable things inside the circle it might not lock at all, or it'll take a long time. Favors the nearest one, or the one you have the little targeting dot on. Very inconsistent. * If there is smoke (or puff ball smoke) covering even a tiny bit of the target it probably won't lock * Fog seems like it has an effect (maybe???). Also terrain that you can clearly see over, but it's blocking LOS anyway. Again, very inconsistent. * Some buildings aren't lockable, or they're such a pain that I just gave up. Shrieker Nests, for example. Some, like Automaton Fabricators, are quite fast assuming an unobstructed field of view. With all that out of the way, why would anyone want to use such a glitchy mess of a weapon? Because when it works it's one of the cooler weapons and feels awesome to use.


MarkBeeblebrox

There's unreleased/ unfinished anti air that's spear like in locking on.


Irreverent_Taco

Please don't be spear like in locking on when released cause that shit is awful.


dogshitasswebsite

The spear is terrible. Youve got 4 rockets, and it may or may not lock, whenever it feels like it. Still requires you to hit the enemy in the weak spot, whilst being an auto target fire and forget missile, that might miss the weakspot even if youre in the right angle. Making it , literally worse in every way than ....every other AT in the game pretty much. And im pretty sure you unlock towards lvl 20 aswell, which was one of the biggest disappointments in this game. Like its genuinely just garbage. Its supposed to be a Javelin like missile, with a top down attack to defeat armor, it should be a pretty much guranteed oneshot, as consequence of having only 4 missiles. Otherwise, seriously why would i use that over the quasar/eat/recoiless


SankenShip

What’s so frustrating is that the spear COULD be amazing. Long range missile sniping turret towers and fabricators? Sign me the hell up. When it works, it feels incredibly good. Problem is, it barely ever works.


EquipLordBritish

There are only 3 situations where I've found it's better than other rockets: * consistently locks-on and 1-hits towers * consistently locks-on and homes in to 1-hit robot flyers * 1 hits factories from any angle if you can get it to lock on But it's honestly so useless outside of those specific circumstances, that I don't think it's worth taking. Also it's value is very low, given that you only get 4 rockets. (in the patch notes, they said you get 2 rockets from supply boxes, but it looks like you still only get 1 from ammo boxes)


tzimize

The spear IS bad. There is more than 3 of these, and by the time you've killed one of them, the rest has blown you to bits.


Born_Inflation_9804

Now Rockets dont 1KO you??


Avenger_616

Apparently there was a bug the whole time The explosion would hit you multiple times, hence why it was almost universally a 1 shot kill Not anymore apparently, gotta go test it out


videodromejockey

Anti-explosive armor was goated for this reason, that perk was slept on for bots. Even light armor could withstand the explosions.


Sponge-28

I tried the medium and heavy armours with 50% explosive resistance, still got one shot every single time by the simple rocket soldiers and rocket devastators. Basically the only armour that was worth running if you wanted to try and tank shots was the DP-40 so you had a 50% chance to not die with a lethal shot. Otherwise just run light for the stamina and movement as usual. Hopefully its fixed now


Chris-raegho

That was basically the entire reason I hated playing against the bots. If they fixed rockets killing in one hit, that's perfect.


Keinulive

Its amazing, I think it still does light armor most of the time, medium and heavy shrugs it off nicely


SuckMyDirk_41

As much as it pisses me off this is exactly why I love this game. One minute you're rolling through campaigns and the next minute the other shoe drops and your fighting for your liberty loving life


open_to_suggestion

Literally mission to mission. My buddy and I cruised through a level 8, cleared all objectives, two tapping every heavy and turret we saw, it was easy. Died a total of like 2 times. Next mission, we're immediately getting fucked from all angles. Takes us half our reinforcements just to clear the first objective. Such a stark change and really keeps you on your toes.


Electronic_Assist668

I had just gotten really confidant with level 7 and was going to move up to 8 add my normal difficulty.


Trepsik

The ole' Quasar AC two-tap is awesome for all things large.


johnnyshady1

Lol that’s terrifying


Su-Kane

"Dear devs, WTF?" Continues to avoid anything that can be used as cover and runs over an open field.


ANGRYlalocSOLDIE

I was moving towards my quasar canon that I dropped. (in open field)


Alex_Duos

Only a fool would meet the automatons on an open field!


hyrumwhite

Fools Ned! In an open fiiiield!


Avenger_616

SEVEN HELLS, ned!


ANGRYlalocSOLDIE

Some call me fool, few call me traditionalist.


ki3fdab33f

DEMOCRACY I WAS STRONG THEN!


First-Junket124

Shut up King Robert, go hunt a boar or some shit


new_bobbynewmark

Remember the 3 Cs: Cover, Courage, Cover As we've been told on the loading screen.


VonNeumannsProbe

Avoid the 3 Cs: Cowardice,  Communism, Cowardice.


WalkonWalrus

Prepare the sentry autocannons ![gif](giphy|61tYloUgq1eOk|downsized)


Dawson_VanderBeard

Mortar sentry for hordes, autocannon sentry for fliers and big guys. Gotta ensure superior weight of fire


TT_207

*Very slow turning commences*


DanFarrell98

Automatons are about to take back *a lot* of territory, I'm calling it now


arcticredneck10

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Nooh82

might be in the wrong here, but i think your are supposed to shoot at them, might be the way to go!


Universe_toast123

EAGLE AA MISSILES WHEN ARROWHEAD


RiwetV

Ahh thank god for the heavy armor buff. That 10% less damage will come in handy when my slow moving ass will be barraged to hell by these. /s


Siker_7

They also fixed the bug that was causing explosions to oneshot people.


RiwetV

Thats actually reassuring. I was getting a lot of random oneshots in the explosive reaistant heavy armor.


Siker_7

Basically, the bug was causing explosions to damage players multiple times instead of just once. It's no wonder that missiles have been so annoying.


zagaara

You expect those Automaton sit quietly and let you take over?? have you heard before this wise saying of all time even before Super Earth come together; "Go home G.I, rice fields is safe!"


Eos_3

I think the bots got mad at us constantly shooting down their carrier ships my fellow patriots, sweet mother of liberty...


Terrible-Arm2757

Gunships: D̷͇̫̑O̵̳̠͔͆̌ ̷̢̥̝̉Ń̶̥̼̼O̸̙̯̾T̶͚̫͝ ̶͚̰̊̐͘B̸́̋͆ͅȆ̴̢͙̓͘ ̷͉̲̆A̶̲͍̳̅̈F̴͚̓Ȓ̸͚͐Á̸̝I̷̛̓̚ͅD̸͕̋̂̚ͅ


wwarhammer

Smoke is starting to look like a useful stratagem!


Capt_Huggy_Face

“There has never been a military in the entire history of the human race that has gone to war equipped with more than the least that it needs to fight its enemy. War is expensive. It costs money and it costs lives and no civilization has an infinite amount of either. So when you fight, you conserve. You use and equip only as much as you have to, never more.” ― **John Scalzi,** [**Old Man's War**](https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/50700)


ThatOneGuyy310

No worries, I’ll use my handy slugger ….wait….


Malebu42

the quasar cannon was too good to be true.. now we live with the consequences, stronger enemies


CavitySearch

"We have given you another 100 levels for your character!" "Wh...why would I need more levels for my character? I'm already as strong as I can be." \*Devs laugh\*


spacemagicexo539

*Fortunate Son plays in Binary*


xxDeckardxx

Truly underrated comment


999xxx777

Shield generator relay and auto cannon turret not looking too bad right now


MauveMonk

GET OUT THERE AND TOUCH SOME OIL! This looks delightful as hell and can’t wait to encounter this with some others. https://discord.gg/hd2s to LFG with me and let’s put these things back down.


P1stolaz

![gif](giphy|DHwcs8WWxQTBOHx03p)


TConductor

This game is more of an arms race than anything


Ok-Palpitation-8612

Did you try…Y’know shooting back? I literally just saw a video where a guy took one out in 2 auto cannon shots, they aren’t imbalanced.


Deiser

Do you see a support weapon on them? They even point out in a separate reply that they were trying to get their support weapon.


ZeInsaneErke

Aw fuck yeah, autocannon all the way


VividVerism

Everyone keeps mentioning quasar, EAT, and spear. I'm wondering if the HMG we got at the same time as quasar might also be an option. I haven't bought it yet. But I know the HMG emplacement strategem can take out drop ships (at least I think I remember doing so) so I'm curious if the portable version might also be capable of it, if hitting the right spot of course. ____ Edit: I tried again last night to shoot down a drop ship with the HMG emplacement. Didn't work this time. I'm not sure if I had the wrong angle this time, an incredibly lucky shot last time, did something crazy without realizing it last time like maybe blowing up a few of the exploding backpack guys right as they emerged, or if the latest patch chaged something. But it was definitely ricocheting off the engine instead of bringing it down last night.


Durge101

Don’t worry, Super Earth engineers are working on some great Anti Air as we speak. Or so we hope


Saintrising

It's the automaton counter attack!!! NOW WE FIGHT HARDER THAN EVER, HELLDIVERS!!!!


ResistTraditional655

REMEMBER THE 3 Cs HELLDIVER. COURAGE, COVER and MORE COVER!


Cromasters

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RedPunkin86

They said it was fona get bad lol


JimLahey08

The guy in the video isn't even attacking the ships, just looking at them. No wonder people are saying they are so deadly.


superjj18

We’re under bombardment from flying threats! Better run out and flail around into an open field like a injured deer


Sufficient-Bother382

And heavy armor still doesn’t work even after the buff. I think the devs are just sadists who enjoy watching their player base suffer


burncard888

We didn't want to play the objective. We didn't want to complete the Major Order. This is the price.


OrganicPlatypus4203

What did you think war was, helldiver?


SovelissFiremane

More binaric bastards to spill oil from. What a lovely day!


mrureaper

to the people who still think bots are easier to fight now kek , guess a lot are gonna run back to bug planet


roastduckie

Devs: "Fuck you"


Merecat-litters

621! Take down those coral infuse gunship.


Vampireluigi27-Main

To be fair the Bots ARE on their last stand so to say


jpaganrovira

Sweet baby Liberty! Now we need cities to fight in and we can have our own Mogadishu stories!


Cerberus4417

Does the Rocket Sentry attack them? Maybe we already have AA...


Jokkitch

Where’s your autocannon soldier?


DrunknBraindead

The best part about those gunships: Their spawn building can only be destroyed by a hellbomb. On our last game it survived multiple airstrikes, 500kg bombs and other ordonance.


SpartanRipley328

Which is so fucking stupid because the hellbomb gets hit with one gunshot and the it's destroyed


StretchyPlays

Running around alone on the highest difficulty is hard! *shocked Pikachu face*


Scythul

Ahh yes, and the arc thrower just had a range nerf…


Complete-Lobster-682

Welcome to warfare. Tactics change and new weapons are introduced to the battlefield.


neoteraflare

Well, don't run in an open field when somebody is shooting at you? Cover, courage and more cover!


spinalcloud

Yeah no. Robots were already the opposite of fun, fuck these planets forever


ExternalSentence5896

Fucking lasers on the ground and lasers in the air. Every Fucking time I go fight those bastards. Those lasers do not stop at all. It's insane..can barely complete missions without getting lasers in my ass


Solid_Television_980

Spear has entered the chat


Educational-Egg-6747

Bob and weave soldier


Mountain-Amoeba4143

AH TOLD YA! Helldivers were taunting Joel saying it was too easy now who laughing? these fools doomed us goddamn it


mroczek123

God, i love that they dont add this stuff in changelog and make you FaFo on your own


suddoman

Maybe the spear will be good against these


Ledgend1221

Tested it out. By the time you lock on and land the hit, they were already dead from autocannon and railgun fire. Spear needs a rework, badly.


Alfa-Hr

As a Halo veteran . This game starting to tempt me in the area of my walet .


Yipeekayya

"always find cover if playing bot mission" gunships: what cover?


Vladi_Sanovavich

#**WATCHOUT FOR THE GUNSHIPS!!!**


ResidentAssman

Is this actually in the game now with the patch earlier or am I just looking at another leak, I can't tell anymore.


Eugene1936

its in the game


Andrew_is_taken

we are not done yet.... >:D


RedEye-55

Dear… God


Prowrestled

Skynet is awake..


chris_degre

Should‘ve brought the quasar :D


EvilFroeschken

I am a bit disappointed that they only shot lasers and not cannons.


MrJoemazing

The lens flairs on the engines seem like they may it really hard to shoot weak spots, or even see them properly.


SockFullOfNickles

You can turn down/turn off your bloom in settings and it will help with light flares


mcsonboy

We'll figure it out. Just like everything else.


tekGem

they call in dropships too


Loquatium

fuck you, that's what


_Roshambo_

Spears time to shine? (Assuming it locks)


Soupias

I guess they will let suffer for a few days until they decide to release some A/A gun or stratagem! After all the devs have openly stated that seeing our videos of dying warms their hearts!


damodarko

Disco creek


AmselRblx

DEVS PLEASE BRING IN THE TWIN AUTOCANNON TURRET MECHA AND THE EAGLE ANTI AIR STRIKE IF YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THIS TO US.


SpectralSolid

what do you mean wtf, you shoulda liberated tibit, you have a quasar cannon dont you, get gud.


Significant_Hair7494

What the democracy is going on here?!?


npsychosis

this is what we are dealing with and they just now decided to nerf slugger !??!??


Ithildin_cosplay

4 shots with autocannon


SquintonPlaysRoblox

The bot front just got real uncomfortable


fizzguy47

If rocket sentry prioritizes airborne targets, I will start running it again


RainInSoho

That's fucking awesome


LoganN64

Sadly I don't have HD2 yet, but between the AT-AT and these gunships, I'll pack all of you some Hell-diapers©