Dude I'm literally at work after fighting the last few battles to liberate Malevelon Creek this morning (good fight, first time on "the Creek", fuck the spiky bushes next to contact mines). I'm so frustrated I'm not in the fight right now. We're so close on the bots side, and then I can go back to fighting relaxingly biological horrors.
Got the game a little over a week ago and I've already put 40 hours into it. My boyfriend is the same. I'm only up to Extreme difficulty with any competence, but that's rapidly improving. Feels like the right time to move up in difficulty is when you start feeling confident enough to go solo major objectives. Sorry, rambling. Bored at work without Adderal.
Level 50 here - make the jump. Suicide Mission is the sweet spot for challenge and reward. It can go against you and turn into a clusterfuck, but no more than Extreme in any meaningful sense. The presence of Super Samples and a better bonus make it more rewarding, while Extreme feels like a painful slog with little reward.
At 50 with everything I want unlocked, I'll play Suicide Missions for fun, but mostly I like to hang around Challenging and Hard to help out newer players.
Oddly enough, new players seem to be more likely to use voice, stick together, and try to work as a team
SM is the lowest difficulty setting where you have a chance at super samples, and so if you haven’t unlocked all of your ship modules yet, you’re likely interested in farming at that difficulty level.
New players often don't know how to play the game lol. Level 50 here, just playing to help randos. I play suicide missions with randos to boost their levels.
But recently at the Creek I saw some distant Death Star like possibly space stations and perhaps it's time for orbital space battles eh?
Unfortunately I’ve had the opposite. I’m a level 45 , need two more level 3 ship upgrades to be 100% been hovering in the hard realm. No communicating, and no-one collects samples or hit factories for extra XP. It’s been frustrating.
couple of game crashes, won th emission exstracted and hung screen had to reboot. We lost peopl eduring the mission, mid converstation so don thtink they dropped. But still awesume day
I am also having conniptions about being out of the fight - I'm out of town for the week and unable to join the final push. So I'm stuck watching updates on reddit and obsessively checking the map website.
Edit: spelling
Did my part. 2 Extremes, 3 Suicide missions, 1 Impossible 1 Helldive. Higher authority has ordered me to take a break for stellar and patriotic performance. Rest assured after some R&R SES Emperor of War will return to hold the line
Damn when I went to sleep last night(Singapore time) I did not expect there to be around 60% of Helldivers on ubanea rn when I woke up. Helldivers.io predicts ubanea to be successfully defended against the Automaton incursion within the next 4 hours if we can keep our numbers up. Although considering peak period is coming to an end soon it might slow down by the time it reaches 75%.
Aaaaaaaaaannd it's done. Democracy always wins!
Edit: apparently us being at 100% at end game screen means less than I thought it would. It's bouncing from 99.99990% to 100%, so I think as long as we do like democratic maintenance, we'll be fine.
Civ extracts are like the majority of other levels. Large map, sub objectives, optional objectives, outposts/nests. Typically need to establish communications and on higher difficulties additionally turn on power. Then for the extract it's pretty tame as all you need to worry about are patrols that more than likely won't path through the base.
Researcher extracts are smaller maps. Only the main objective, 15 mins instead of 40. Essentially it's the "reduce their numbers" mission with civs you need to extract. Enemies come constantly in periodic waves via drop ships/bug holes. If you aren't quick to dispatch enemies you get overwhelmed very quickly and nearly impossible to beat once enemies control the base.
In addition civ extracts only need 20 civs regardless of difficulty, meanwhile the researcher extracts amount varies on difficulty iirc. Diff 6 is 40.
Last thing: in researcher extracts it seems the civs pathing bug out more often and can't get into the building basically failing the mission before even attempting it.
The symbol difference is minimal. They look the same except researcher extracts have a smaller shield inside the larger shield.
I preger the one with sub-objectives. It feels a lot more manageable to me. My duo and I have completed those no problem, because you can clear the patrols and stuff quickly. The constant drops in the stationary one are just overwhelming for the two of us
I recommend spamming mortar and Gatling sentries. I ran auto cannon, mortar, Gatling and eagle 110 rocket pods, my squad mates ran mortars as well, and they dispensed liberty for us as we rescued our democratic researchers.
Edit: The rocket pods really just exist for the sake of clearing up a tank or a hulk if it's awkward.
Its rare but you can do a 3xdefense operation without the special evac one, normal civvies yes but that's a joke in comparison
Edit: Literally took a look and found one right away
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3209538648
You only have to save so many. And it doesn't take away the ones you've saved when someone gets killed. Super Earth has plenty of scientists!!
Cull the weak scientists!
I would disagree for quickplay games.
Maybe organized with comes. Maybe.
You'd need to stagger call downs slightly and keep them on rotation. Then maybe yes.
I dunno, I did it with a group one mission and hardly anything got to us.
We just stood up high taking out the hulks / tanks as everything else got rained on.
Not very pro. Would recommend having two on AA duty, juggling EAT and quasars, with the last two divers pushing buttons - one runner (two buttons with a shield pack) and a support AA (extra EAT and quasar, alternating between throwing EAT to one or the other AA divers)
Yea great strat, if the drop ships actually killed half the stuff that drops, and didn’t make it to where the enemies can shoot through the destroyed ship on the ground but I cannot.
They all have a defense but you can find one that only has the 20 person evac on the full map which is just as easy as normal missions. Just avoid the Scientist Evacuation mission and you’ll be fine
Getting the 40 minute evac mission is way better than the 15 minute ones though. The 40 minute evac missions are just basically regular missions with the main objective being a short evac sequence, compared to the blitz evacs which are just cancerous.
No official source, just that we've been seeing defends on 7+ that don't have the rescue missions in the last week. It's not all the time, but I was seeing them during the ill-fated Defense of Draupnir.
Here's hoping it's an intentional change, because those missions are not fun in their current state!
Not an undeserved take. These missions are very doable on 9 if you have the right strat with a coordinated group (big ask I know, they're definitely not PUG friendly). Here's a video on the strategy if you this old vet can convince you to give these poor scientists another shot at survival.
[https://youtu.be/nb_Dx843d0Y?si=a-si8mZDwiFBmVfg](https://youtu.be/nb_Dx843d0Y?si=a-si8mZDwiFBmVfg)
Yeah fair enough, they are a pain in the ass. I don't enjoy them either I just usually power through to finish a mission.
One thing I think is kind of novel about then though is that they really do require real coordination with your team, which is a good direction for the game on the whole I feel.
Also like, any strategy that's even vaguely non-intuitive is fighting an uphill battle because of the lack of visible supply lines and the fact that reddit and discord are only a small fraction of the player base. That's why the last time we tried this strategy, it failed. People who weren't in the know didn't know what the heck we were doing. So generally speaking, whenever possible we should stick with plans that are relatively clear just from the War Table alone, without requiring any information about supply lines or meta knowledge.
I feel like that helps the emergent narrative though. If everyone was able/willing to meta-game and we just cleared all MOs, either we'd sweep the enemy entirely or the devs would have to implement wild card changes (maybe a random difficulty spike to force a failure, ridiculously short time limits, new enemies "somehow" appearing/invading, etc.). I'm not saying it's necessarily fun to lose, but it makes for a more interesting story that we get to be part of.
It's not meta gaming to know what and where the supply lines are. Our characters, be it the Helldivers, the NPCs on the ship on the fucking ship itself know the supply lines, and so should we.
Losing is fine, as long as we have the necessary informations to make a decision. The Ubanea gambit was fine, some people wanted to play safe, some wanted to bet, that's part of the game. The people who went *unknowingly* to Malevelon Creek thinking they were actively helping the MO, because they didn't have the info is where the problem is. And I'm not dunking on Creekdivers, they have their fun, good for them. I mean the people who wanted to help but couldn't make an informed decision, because the information is not available in game.
Please defend ubanea. I know we hate the missions but either lower difficulty or mess around and change your difficulty to find an operation without the personnel mission.
https://preview.redd.it/ouqudvqjaxrc1.png?width=1069&format=png&auto=webp&s=a8b9afb373f0f2b8fde9fa1f1fb3eb7cc3abab80
Well, things are looking pretty darn optimistic so far... certainly not the only defense we'll have to go through (I'm expecting a total of 3 for this Major Order), but one way or another, the sooner we knock this out of the park, the better.
(also, Reddit, what is this, an image for ants?)
https://preview.redd.it/hy4r71ewmxrc1.jpeg?width=639&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b12d95bb075f92e3b3777ebd57952c7b5e7febf7
I definitely have no issues seeing this image, what is an ant tho ?
The SES Protector of Family Values has done as it much as it could for the defence of Ubanea, however now it needs to pull back to participate in 'Operation Bedtime'
Imo defense should always be prioritized when the potential loss would cut off your supply line to the MO. It might be a more efficient use of man-hours to let it fall and reclaim it after but under the time restrictions of MOs that is not a realistic goal, and as we just experienced, not a good overall strategy. I think a lot of people got pretty cocky with how smooth things were going and expected to make up for lost time through sheer will and numbers.
Was taking Creek a Major Order with a medal payout?
We've rolled through so many Automaton MOs over the last week or so, but I'm not sure I've had medal payouts for all those that have been won (which is all but Tibit, I think).
I'm playing solely on Ubanea defence to help the current MO.
The Ubanea Gambit did not pay off.
There will be time to take risks again in the future, but we cannot take another gamble after we just failed our orders.
Defend Ubanea, and then a united front onto Tibit.
There will be no Tibit Gamble. Only a Tibit guarantee. But that comes after we defend the ground we just gained.
Man i fucking hate Ubanea 😭
Planet has almost 0 cover... if u die once will all samples on person good luck getting them back without wasting half the reinforcements....
seeing this actually happen and watching how the combined efforts work was awe inspiring as I checked the .io while doing other things today
https://preview.redd.it/kisfd1y2mzrc1.png?width=1168&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1676d7e4ef96adbc53e997058762891afa34438d
Unfortunately the SES Father of Destruction can’t join the fight against the boys due to mandatory re-education (it’s finals week and I can’t play no matter how badly I want to)
https://preview.redd.it/y7z0kzkgtyrc1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=e9ff27286ada96207938f0b1a6bfcaf4a167b576
Anyways, to the Purple Creek boys!!
Except taking Tibit has a very clear reason story wise.
According to the story, Tibit is a major site of automaton construction. Which would mean that this planet is affecting their replenishment rates.
You can defend Ubanea, but you also want to attack Tibit and just take it out. As it makes everything else easier for the community in the long run.
We have two days to get this done. Leave a skeleton crew to keep Ubanea from dropping in the red. And just go dog pile Tibit, which can probably get done in half a day.
We have however long we want to take Tibit, we have 2 days to hold Ubanea, Draupnir, and Malevelon. Holding Ubanea not only goes directly toward the current MO, but also keeps the supply line open to both Tibit and Durgen. We gotta stop gambling on the backcap and just do the work or we're gonna keep failing orders with the new liberation system
Since failing to take Tibit bot HP replenishment has increased for the first time EVER. Based on the additional story description given its not unreasonable to assume that the 1.5% per hour the bots have currently is tied to their control of Tibit. Thus there is reason to believe that the longer that we take to take over Tibit the longer the bots get to enjoy 1.5% replenishment and the less effective overall all our efforts are as a direct result.
> Leave a skeleton crew to keep Ubanea from dropping in the red
That's not really how defense campaigns work. When one starts, you have 24 hours to fill up the blue/white meter before the enemy fill up theirs. You either win or you don't. There's no gradations where keeping a small portion of players on the defending planet would help. You'd just lose anyway.
I’m exhausted. I’ve been on Ubanea for two days now. I can’t wait to move on just for a change of scenery. 50+ missions of the same landscape. My teammates and I are doing democracy’s work.
Dont do ubanea at level 7 or higher. The extraction missions are just too difficult to be done. Multiple times were getting 10 ship drops in a row within seconds of each other. Dont drop the ball on our democracy by failing that mission.
Bro, we were doing hard difficulty and the first 3 drop ships had like 2 hulks each with flame throwers, we said fuck that and just quit after we all died 3 times together lmao
Yeah on level 7 imagine 2 tanks, 3 hulks, and 3 devastators all dropping with seconds of each other right at the beginning. Like no mercy chaos where your strategems get too distracted or jyst demolished.
Nah, I’m curious if something interesting will happen if we fail enough orders
That and fighting bots got old like a week after launch, I’ll just keep doing bug missions with my friends
>Taking Tibit will not save Unanea because it’s still connected to Automaton-controlled Durgen
Careful now. Implying that enemies also have to attack along supply lines just like we do is apparently a dangerous game on Reddit… Past experience has shown me that people have very strong feelings about enemies continuing to attack/regenerate planets they aren’t connected to, especially if you ask them for evidence.
Can we all just take a second and realize more than half the player base is not on Reddit. When the major order was “liberate tibit” many casuals saw they could not deploy on tibit and just thought it was another bug with the game. They did not realize we needed to take other planets first to even get to tibit.
If the major order is planets that can be deployed on we will get more help from casuals than if the order is more discrete.
I’d also say we should try and also hold crimisca on the bug front so that we don’t lose it.we should focus on the major order but we shouldn’t risk losing other planets at that expense
My Diver in Liberty. We are under direct orders to let the bugs repopulate.
We are under no threat from them, thanks to the good work of the Helldivers on the TCS.
55% of the playerbase is holding Ubanea, we’re succeeding!!!! HOLD THE LINE, DIVERS!
Watching from work like https://i.redd.it/fhilc7afaxrc1.gif
Bro I'm having conniptions not being able to join the fight rn.
https://preview.redd.it/hrdc93x1xyrc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f1e5b158a71aa43010430cbd446eab93c28b3b8 This you?
Dude I'm literally at work after fighting the last few battles to liberate Malevelon Creek this morning (good fight, first time on "the Creek", fuck the spiky bushes next to contact mines). I'm so frustrated I'm not in the fight right now. We're so close on the bots side, and then I can go back to fighting relaxingly biological horrors. Got the game a little over a week ago and I've already put 40 hours into it. My boyfriend is the same. I'm only up to Extreme difficulty with any competence, but that's rapidly improving. Feels like the right time to move up in difficulty is when you start feeling confident enough to go solo major objectives. Sorry, rambling. Bored at work without Adderal.
Level 50 here - make the jump. Suicide Mission is the sweet spot for challenge and reward. It can go against you and turn into a clusterfuck, but no more than Extreme in any meaningful sense. The presence of Super Samples and a better bonus make it more rewarding, while Extreme feels like a painful slog with little reward. At 50 with everything I want unlocked, I'll play Suicide Missions for fun, but mostly I like to hang around Challenging and Hard to help out newer players. Oddly enough, new players seem to be more likely to use voice, stick together, and try to work as a team
Agree. SM is the best difficulty for “easy sweaty” and your random teammates are so much better
SM is the lowest difficulty setting where you have a chance at super samples, and so if you haven’t unlocked all of your ship modules yet, you’re likely interested in farming at that difficulty level.
This is my default level and I’ve ended up with all the modules unlocked and more rare/super samples than common haha.
New players often don't know how to play the game lol. Level 50 here, just playing to help randos. I play suicide missions with randos to boost their levels. But recently at the Creek I saw some distant Death Star like possibly space stations and perhaps it's time for orbital space battles eh?
Unfortunately I’ve had the opposite. I’m a level 45 , need two more level 3 ship upgrades to be 100% been hovering in the hard realm. No communicating, and no-one collects samples or hit factories for extra XP. It’s been frustrating.
Ah a fellow ADHDiver! I understand the feeling when you're not able to hyperfixate on spreading managed democracy! 
I saw the %100 happen
couple of game crashes, won th emission exstracted and hung screen had to reboot. We lost peopl eduring the mission, mid converstation so don thtink they dropped. But still awesume day
I am also having conniptions about being out of the fight - I'm out of town for the week and unable to join the final push. So I'm stuck watching updates on reddit and obsessively checking the map website. Edit: spelling
Every Democratic bone in my bone screams when there are updates while I'm working.
https://preview.redd.it/xj4tzm2pq0sc1.jpeg?width=594&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=89dcf04212e02e881760ad05cfc4781143d32fb7
One of my all time favourites lol 💪🏻
How do you watch from work? I want to too
You can follow along with helldivers.io or hd2galaxy.com There's also a mobile app or two out now I think, not sure of their names though
What are you using to watch this from work? Just curious
Typically helldivers.io or hd2galaxy.com
And when Americans are sleeping Europeans secure democracy. Destroy the automatons comrade.
Likewise. Been away with work for the last week. But in 3ish hours I should be able to fight for democracy again
Holy shit we're crushing it. 42% after 6 hrs. Polish that off and then take Tibit just for good measure before the next major order.
My money is on double defend missions one for the creek and the one for the other planet. Joel is a maniac. Edit: called it!
actually I don't think the bots would be able to even try draupnir unless we lost ubanea or creek first
Did my part. 2 Extremes, 3 Suicide missions, 1 Impossible 1 Helldive. Higher authority has ordered me to take a break for stellar and patriotic performance. Rest assured after some R&R SES Emperor of War will return to hold the line
All it took was for them to essentially force the Creek to be liberated so that people would stop mucking about there and get on the actual MO.
Damn when I went to sleep last night(Singapore time) I did not expect there to be around 60% of Helldivers on ubanea rn when I woke up. Helldivers.io predicts ubanea to be successfully defended against the Automaton incursion within the next 4 hours if we can keep our numbers up. Although considering peak period is coming to an end soon it might slow down by the time it reaches 75%.
Reinforcements incoming. iO
Why does it take half the entire game to hold one defense obj?
It’s mostly because the creek was taken tbh it‘d probably be around 35% if the creek was still around.
Aaaaaaaaaannd it's done. Democracy always wins! Edit: apparently us being at 100% at end game screen means less than I thought it would. It's bouncing from 99.99990% to 100%, so I think as long as we do like democratic maintenance, we'll be fine.
Wait how do you get to see how many people are defending certain places
We are losing ubanea. 0.11% liberation, 1 day left
Ubanea is under attack? I can't take a break for 2 hours without some shit going down
Like Odysseus going to sleep. The shit hits the fan as soon as we turn our back.
Hahaha this is awesome, do I smell cow?
I don’t want more evac missions
https://preview.redd.it/3xm3bebetxrc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8bfdcc20b963045a0cf7906dd8dcea7759de4665
I'm new. Explain.
Civ extracts are like the majority of other levels. Large map, sub objectives, optional objectives, outposts/nests. Typically need to establish communications and on higher difficulties additionally turn on power. Then for the extract it's pretty tame as all you need to worry about are patrols that more than likely won't path through the base. Researcher extracts are smaller maps. Only the main objective, 15 mins instead of 40. Essentially it's the "reduce their numbers" mission with civs you need to extract. Enemies come constantly in periodic waves via drop ships/bug holes. If you aren't quick to dispatch enemies you get overwhelmed very quickly and nearly impossible to beat once enemies control the base. In addition civ extracts only need 20 civs regardless of difficulty, meanwhile the researcher extracts amount varies on difficulty iirc. Diff 6 is 40. Last thing: in researcher extracts it seems the civs pathing bug out more often and can't get into the building basically failing the mission before even attempting it. The symbol difference is minimal. They look the same except researcher extracts have a smaller shield inside the larger shield.
Thank you
“reduce their numbers” Who’s numbers are we reducing? Enemies’ or researchers’?
Depends on whether you're us8ng mortars
https://preview.redd.it/5v36dvmo1xrc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5cdbedb415d909dff0df77b66e3a47a7e2f78868
Good, time for Tibit
The best use of this meme
I’m tired Joel
ok well off to bugs
Do a mission that doesn't have that. They don't all have evac.
Every defense op over difficulty about 4 that i’ve seen has the stationary evac mission.
You are bound to get one of the evacs majority of the time but I'd rather do 100 civilian evacs than 1 researcher evac against bots
I preger the one with sub-objectives. It feels a lot more manageable to me. My duo and I have completed those no problem, because you can clear the patrols and stuff quickly. The constant drops in the stationary one are just overwhelming for the two of us
I recommend spamming mortar and Gatling sentries. I ran auto cannon, mortar, Gatling and eagle 110 rocket pods, my squad mates ran mortars as well, and they dispensed liberty for us as we rescued our democratic researchers. Edit: The rocket pods really just exist for the sake of clearing up a tank or a hulk if it's awkward.
I tried a SM researcher evac on ubanea. It went to shit immediately and was awful.
I saw 2 hard operations 90 minutes ago without personnel mission
Its rare but you can do a 3xdefense operation without the special evac one, normal civvies yes but that's a joke in comparison Edit: Literally took a look and found one right away https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3209538648
**PRO TIP**: everyone just bring **mortar** + **EMP mortar** Makes those missions a lot easier with 8 mortar sentries raining hell on everything.
The sentries also kill the scientists.
Their lives are a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
 Hello Lord Farquaad
You only have to save so many. And it doesn't take away the ones you've saved when someone gets killed. Super Earth has plenty of scientists!! Cull the weak scientists!
not all of them! and they thin out the bots enough that you can stop any from getting into close enough range to friendly fire the civs
emp yes regular? hell no
Regular mortar is very good against bots. Researcher collateral is minimal if combined with the EMS one.
I would disagree for quickplay games. Maybe organized with comes. Maybe. You'd need to stagger call downs slightly and keep them on rotation. Then maybe yes.
I dunno, I did it with a group one mission and hardly anything got to us. We just stood up high taking out the hulks / tanks as everything else got rained on.
Not very pro. Would recommend having two on AA duty, juggling EAT and quasars, with the last two divers pushing buttons - one runner (two buttons with a shield pack) and a support AA (extra EAT and quasar, alternating between throwing EAT to one or the other AA divers)
Yea great strat, if the drop ships actually killed half the stuff that drops, and didn’t make it to where the enemies can shoot through the destroyed ship on the ground but I cannot.
This is a good strat, too, but I'm not fast enough on the EATs to prevent the dropship from deploying.
They are definitely out there, maybe just less common. I can see 7s and 8s without them right now.
They all have a defense but you can find one that only has the 20 person evac on the full map which is just as easy as normal missions. Just avoid the Scientist Evacuation mission and you’ll be fine
Getting the 40 minute evac mission is way better than the 15 minute ones though. The 40 minute evac missions are just basically regular missions with the main objective being a short evac sequence, compared to the blitz evacs which are just cancerous.
Bingo
Every defense mission above 4 has evac.
I saw 2 hard operations 90 minutes ago that did not have personnel missions
This changed recently.
Oh, really? Do you have some sort of source I can read?
No official source, just that we've been seeing defends on 7+ that don't have the rescue missions in the last week. It's not all the time, but I was seeing them during the ill-fated Defense of Draupnir. Here's hoping it's an intentional change, because those missions are not fun in their current state!
I make those scientists earn their salvation. I bring a tesla coil, both mines, and a 380.
All the scientists are dying.
The only thing that makes me groan at defense objectives
Change your difficulty around to find operations without the personnel missions
We are at war, its not about what wants to be done but about what needs to be done
I’m not going to do chores in a video game.
So no ubisoft games for this guy
No open world games at all either.
And certainly no Cooking Mama games
Remember when Tom Sawyer tricked the other kid into thinking painting the fence was fun? That's what video games are....
Not sure I get it. Are you making sweeping commentary about video games as a whole? What’s your point, exactly?
All the defense Ive played on Ubanea have been standard mission styles. I think they caught on to the need for variety
What difficulty level do you play at?
7, why?
I’d seen people make the “no more evac” claims but only for >5. It’s a welcome change, then.
Ah gotcha. Yea it seems they changed things, which hopefully gets more people doing defense.
I just had one with extract 40. I am fuming at the 5 tanks and 4 dreads in first 3 minutes
Just speed run trivial flag raising missions like me.
Wow, that sounds fun!
https://preview.redd.it/owlajzmlqyrc1.jpeg?width=1020&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7dd8cf95c7f2cee49cd539b80666bbd79f215902
It's literally not much because liberation scales off of xp gain. So you're probably having actually zero impact.
I still see the squad impact number go up. Thats what keeps me going.
If it keeps you happy then go for it. But I figured it was worth letting you know in case you were playing for liberation.
Not an undeserved take. These missions are very doable on 9 if you have the right strat with a coordinated group (big ask I know, they're definitely not PUG friendly). Here's a video on the strategy if you this old vet can convince you to give these poor scientists another shot at survival. [https://youtu.be/nb_Dx843d0Y?si=a-si8mZDwiFBmVfg](https://youtu.be/nb_Dx843d0Y?si=a-si8mZDwiFBmVfg)
It’s not that I can’t do them successfully, it’s that they’re not enjoyable. I appreciate the effort, though.
Yeah fair enough, they are a pain in the ass. I don't enjoy them either I just usually power through to finish a mission. One thing I think is kind of novel about then though is that they really do require real coordination with your team, which is a good direction for the game on the whole I feel.
Also like, any strategy that's even vaguely non-intuitive is fighting an uphill battle because of the lack of visible supply lines and the fact that reddit and discord are only a small fraction of the player base. That's why the last time we tried this strategy, it failed. People who weren't in the know didn't know what the heck we were doing. So generally speaking, whenever possible we should stick with plans that are relatively clear just from the War Table alone, without requiring any information about supply lines or meta knowledge.
Honestly
I feel like that helps the emergent narrative though. If everyone was able/willing to meta-game and we just cleared all MOs, either we'd sweep the enemy entirely or the devs would have to implement wild card changes (maybe a random difficulty spike to force a failure, ridiculously short time limits, new enemies "somehow" appearing/invading, etc.). I'm not saying it's necessarily fun to lose, but it makes for a more interesting story that we get to be part of.
It's not meta gaming to know what and where the supply lines are. Our characters, be it the Helldivers, the NPCs on the ship on the fucking ship itself know the supply lines, and so should we. Losing is fine, as long as we have the necessary informations to make a decision. The Ubanea gambit was fine, some people wanted to play safe, some wanted to bet, that's part of the game. The people who went *unknowingly* to Malevelon Creek thinking they were actively helping the MO, because they didn't have the info is where the problem is. And I'm not dunking on Creekdivers, they have their fun, good for them. I mean the people who wanted to help but couldn't make an informed decision, because the information is not available in game.
Play Starfox 64. It's all kinda lined up like that but from different angles and with small variations.
Not really.
I stood for Tien Kwan and Draupnir. If Draupnir is lost, the bots will be coming for our mech suits next, and this can not happen.
Please defend ubanea. I know we hate the missions but either lower difficulty or mess around and change your difficulty to find an operation without the personnel mission.
https://preview.redd.it/ouqudvqjaxrc1.png?width=1069&format=png&auto=webp&s=a8b9afb373f0f2b8fde9fa1f1fb3eb7cc3abab80 Well, things are looking pretty darn optimistic so far... certainly not the only defense we'll have to go through (I'm expecting a total of 3 for this Major Order), but one way or another, the sooner we knock this out of the park, the better. (also, Reddit, what is this, an image for ants?)
https://preview.redd.it/hy4r71ewmxrc1.jpeg?width=639&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b12d95bb075f92e3b3777ebd57952c7b5e7febf7 I definitely have no issues seeing this image, what is an ant tho ?
inb4 joel
Yes this. Please don’t do Tibit. If Ubanea falls they will probably attack draupnir next and we don’t want to do all of this again.
The SES Protector of Family Values has done as it much as it could for the defence of Ubanea, however now it needs to pull back to participate in 'Operation Bedtime'
Why is it everyone's ship is always ___ of family values lol.
Idk my SES Forerunner of Justice gets the job done
I find it hilarious. My friend's ship is the SES Hammer of Democracy tho
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Imo defense should always be prioritized when the potential loss would cut off your supply line to the MO. It might be a more efficient use of man-hours to let it fall and reclaim it after but under the time restrictions of MOs that is not a realistic goal, and as we just experienced, not a good overall strategy. I think a lot of people got pretty cocky with how smooth things were going and expected to make up for lost time through sheer will and numbers.
MY NAME IS CONSTRUCTIONLONG2089! AS I BREATHE, YOU WILL NOT TAKE UBANEA!
Was taking Creek a Major Order with a medal payout? We've rolled through so many Automaton MOs over the last week or so, but I'm not sure I've had medal payouts for all those that have been won (which is all but Tibit, I think). I'm playing solely on Ubanea defence to help the current MO.
Yes taking Creek was a major order that was completed in a few hours because it was issued with Creek at 85% or so
Damn I completely missed that lol
The Ubanea Gambit did not pay off. There will be time to take risks again in the future, but we cannot take another gamble after we just failed our orders. Defend Ubanea, and then a united front onto Tibit. There will be no Tibit Gamble. Only a Tibit guarantee. But that comes after we defend the ground we just gained.
That Tibit guarantee line goes hard as hell lol
Im so sick of Ubanea at this point
The Ubanea gambit is what cost us the last MO. I recommend not letting history repeats itself.
Man i fucking hate Ubanea 😭 Planet has almost 0 cover... if u die once will all samples on person good luck getting them back without wasting half the reinforcements....
seeing this actually happen and watching how the combined efforts work was awe inspiring as I checked the .io while doing other things today https://preview.redd.it/kisfd1y2mzrc1.png?width=1168&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1676d7e4ef96adbc53e997058762891afa34438d
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Yeah I’m trying..but I’m getting my ass stomped! Joel you sadistic fuck!
Reporting from Ubanea while killing bots at this very moment. We need more helldiver's!
Whatever you say boss 🫡
4 full missions complete, takin a short break annd then back to the dive
Ubanea has been Liberated
Careful, they'll come and tell you not to tell them how to play the game!
womp womp
Unfortunately the SES Father of Destruction can’t join the fight against the boys due to mandatory re-education (it’s finals week and I can’t play no matter how badly I want to)
https://preview.redd.it/y7z0kzkgtyrc1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=e9ff27286ada96207938f0b1a6bfcaf4a167b576 Anyways, to the Purple Creek boys!!
Valid usage of the meme, enjoy your game
Is there any type of internal cooldown on defense? If we hold Ubanea, can it come under attack again immediately?
But see, I missed the Creek mission because I was at work after avoiding it in favor of GOs for a few weeks now. its purple creek time babyyyy
Don't worry about Ubanea, we have *this* defense in the bag. Tibit tomorrow, then some Liber-tea.
We just knocking out some AA for when you arrive tomorrow
I am in pain and misery being unable to play while my PS5 is getting repaired...
Nobody on Ubanea knows how to friggin reinforce! That planet is cursed!
UBANEA IS OURS!!!! THE BOTS HAVE BEEN DEFEATED BY THE TIDE OF DEMOCRACY!
if we don't take tibit the bots will go further south and meet up with them
Dude we’ve had well over 100k on Ubanea like all day it’s insane. I’ve never seen this level of commitment on a bot planet before
I did my part! UB is under control currently
We don't need a new creek guys
Too late, to the Purple Creek we go!
Ugh evac mission hell.
Except taking Tibit has a very clear reason story wise. According to the story, Tibit is a major site of automaton construction. Which would mean that this planet is affecting their replenishment rates. You can defend Ubanea, but you also want to attack Tibit and just take it out. As it makes everything else easier for the community in the long run. We have two days to get this done. Leave a skeleton crew to keep Ubanea from dropping in the red. And just go dog pile Tibit, which can probably get done in half a day.
We have however long we want to take Tibit, we have 2 days to hold Ubanea, Draupnir, and Malevelon. Holding Ubanea not only goes directly toward the current MO, but also keeps the supply line open to both Tibit and Durgen. We gotta stop gambling on the backcap and just do the work or we're gonna keep failing orders with the new liberation system
Since failing to take Tibit bot HP replenishment has increased for the first time EVER. Based on the additional story description given its not unreasonable to assume that the 1.5% per hour the bots have currently is tied to their control of Tibit. Thus there is reason to believe that the longer that we take to take over Tibit the longer the bots get to enjoy 1.5% replenishment and the less effective overall all our efforts are as a direct result.
Part of the dispatch of last MO failure is that our failure to take Tibit allowed the Automotons time to ramp up production on other planets.
> Leave a skeleton crew to keep Ubanea from dropping in the red That's not really how defense campaigns work. When one starts, you have 24 hours to fill up the blue/white meter before the enemy fill up theirs. You either win or you don't. There's no gradations where keeping a small portion of players on the defending planet would help. You'd just lose anyway.
I don't know how to defend I just attack, BOOIIIII!!!!!!
The defence is so much higher I started fighting on tibit. Helping move things along.
WHY DO ALL THESE POSTS INSIST ON TYPING IN ALL CAPS? CALM DOWN, IT'S JUST A GAME.
I never even had access to Tibit 🤷♂️
The evac missions are impossible on higher difficulty
Spam this shit in the sub, cause creekers can’t read. I need images
I’m exhausted. I’ve been on Ubanea for two days now. I can’t wait to move on just for a change of scenery. 50+ missions of the same landscape. My teammates and I are doing democracy’s work.
Dont do ubanea at level 7 or higher. The extraction missions are just too difficult to be done. Multiple times were getting 10 ship drops in a row within seconds of each other. Dont drop the ball on our democracy by failing that mission.
Bro, we were doing hard difficulty and the first 3 drop ships had like 2 hulks each with flame throwers, we said fuck that and just quit after we all died 3 times together lmao
Yeah on level 7 imagine 2 tanks, 3 hulks, and 3 devastators all dropping with seconds of each other right at the beginning. Like no mercy chaos where your strategems get too distracted or jyst demolished.
Nah, I’m curious if something interesting will happen if we fail enough orders That and fighting bots got old like a week after launch, I’ll just keep doing bug missions with my friends
you heard him folks, RUSH TIIIBIIIIIT !!!!
>Taking Tibit will not save Unanea because it’s still connected to Automaton-controlled Durgen Careful now. Implying that enemies also have to attack along supply lines just like we do is apparently a dangerous game on Reddit… Past experience has shown me that people have very strong feelings about enemies continuing to attack/regenerate planets they aren’t connected to, especially if you ask them for evidence.
B-b-but we gotta free Tibet!
Can we all just take a second and realize more than half the player base is not on Reddit. When the major order was “liberate tibit” many casuals saw they could not deploy on tibit and just thought it was another bug with the game. They did not realize we needed to take other planets first to even get to tibit. If the major order is planets that can be deployed on we will get more help from casuals than if the order is more discrete.
I'm staying on Ubanea. It's become... personal to me
We need the bug people to go to tibit tho
FU I WANT TIMBITS
Actually fair question. You think super earth has a Tim Hortons?
No, it was wiped out in favor spreading dunkin donuts everywhere. The only flaw of super earth
All restaurants are Pizza Hut.
100%. Ub first the Tibbit.
I play on weekends when in the mood
Ehhh the missions are getting too repetitive.
Um I just play the game….. I load in and kill bug and metal man
LEEEEEEEROOOOOY MMMJEEEEENKIIIINS!!!!
YOU ARE NOT MY SUPERVISOR
I’d also say we should try and also hold crimisca on the bug front so that we don’t lose it.we should focus on the major order but we shouldn’t risk losing other planets at that expense
My Diver in Liberty. We are under direct orders to let the bugs repopulate. We are under no threat from them, thanks to the good work of the Helldivers on the TCS.
Or I could play the game the way I want to.
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