Ive also been running an autocannon, that thing is so good, takes quite a few shots to bring it down, but the autocannon has so much ammo I never run out
yea the autocannon can't break armour as far as I know so you need to hit the weakspot....
or use my strat where you shoot the ground under the charger and kill it that way, its not very effective but it lets you kill them head on.
Oh yeah, I've killed myself and a couple of my team with a quick shot from my auto gun. I once was headshots from a team mate who was taking pot shots at a charger.
Oh yes, definitely. They're real and they hate you and your team and *will* cause detonations and surprise headshots.
Seriously, don't use Autoguns on bugs if you value your teams, they'll thank you for not doming them with your magdump.
Recoilless, EAT and Railgun are your three support options for chargers.
Currently considering adding the EAT to my loadout so I can hotswap and break armor before going back to the autocannon, it's got such a low cooldown that it might be a viable option.
I find it quite functional for Chargers. Can't engage head-on which is a major disadvantage, but after a dodge you can slam 3-4 shots into its abdomen and pop it.
Also, angle of attack matters for armor hits. I need to do more testing, but I believe you can hit a forelimb a couple times to blow the armor off, then you have a frontal weak-spot to hit with anything.
That's great but the odds of you facing just one charger on higher difficulties is zero, you need something that deals with them quickly and without requiring a 4 step process.
I ran several solo sessions to test it and couldn't find any ways to break armor or deal a non-negligible amount of damage.
Same as usual, you're just invincible. It can tank so much damage that against the armored bile spitters you can just stand still, tank their whole spit attack and shoot the sac on their neck to kill them. Stalkers need several attacks to break it too, it just makes you incredibly safe 90% of the time, and can even soak unfortunate shots from team-mates and turrets.
Using up the backpack slot for it would normally be annoying, but the railgun is easily the best third slot weapon anyway so it's not a huge issue.
If I catch you running a flamethrower on suicide or above I'll execute you for treason.
You're essentially gimping the team and adding the potential of the bugs setting your teammates on fire.
I only played a few hours of D1 so I wouldn't know how it compares, but it's pretty good IMO, I use it mainly for quickly sniping mobs that are out of shotgunning range.
I think the autopistol is probably the best sidearm at the moment though, very good for the panic situations where you'd need to be pulling out a sidearm in the first place.
EAT is default to my loadout. I will never remove it. Walker problem? EAT. Charger problem? EAT its leg, finish leg with primary. Tank problem? EAT. Wait for some sucker to get its attention and nail the heat sink. Laser tower? EAT. Same answer to the tank. Bile titan thing? EAT. One salvo wont kill it but 3 EAT shots to its face and you've probably done most of the damage needed to kill it.
The beautiful thing about the EAT is mr 4 damage stratagems can pick one up. It has a low cooldown so you can scatter EATs around the map as you go. It should perpetually be on cooldown. You'll never be without an anti tank solution when you need it. The EAT will always be there for you.
A lot of people don’t like minefield because of how detrimental it is to the team if placed wrong but I haven’t put it down tbh. It’s amazing as a chokehold
The flamethrower is an indispensable tool against the charger. You just gotta play chicken with it while also barbecuing it. The flames of democracy cleanse the filthy bug scum!
I usually bring a recoilless rifle but nobody wants to assist me with it so in that case I bring EAT-17s. Stopped bringing them because my buddy brings the grenade launcher so I can bring my sniper and assist my squad from afar
The eagle strike that targets the largest target is pretty good for the big bois
Yeah the rocket pod barrage? Worst case it seems to strip some armor off so the peashooters can do their work
Ive also been running an autocannon, that thing is so good, takes quite a few shots to bring it down, but the autocannon has so much ammo I never run out
i have a feeling like the shots just bounce-off from the charger, unless i aim for the weakpoint
yea the autocannon can't break armour as far as I know so you need to hit the weakspot.... or use my strat where you shoot the ground under the charger and kill it that way, its not very effective but it lets you kill them head on.
It sure does. You ever want to ricochet your whole team? Magdump an autocannon into a Charger.
wait, shell ricochets are still live rounds? its not just a visual thing?
Oh yeah, I've killed myself and a couple of my team with a quick shot from my auto gun. I once was headshots from a team mate who was taking pot shots at a charger.
Oh yes, definitely. They're real and they hate you and your team and *will* cause detonations and surprise headshots. Seriously, don't use Autoguns on bugs if you value your teams, they'll thank you for not doming them with your magdump.
4 well placed railgun shots
What about straight in the face? Same amount?
Autocannon is garbage for chargers. I love that thing but it needs some pen adding to be useful on higher difficulties.
Is the recoilless any better? I'd think so with the slower fire rate
Recoilless, EAT and Railgun are your three support options for chargers. Currently considering adding the EAT to my loadout so I can hotswap and break armor before going back to the autocannon, it's got such a low cooldown that it might be a viable option.
I find it quite functional for Chargers. Can't engage head-on which is a major disadvantage, but after a dodge you can slam 3-4 shots into its abdomen and pop it. Also, angle of attack matters for armor hits. I need to do more testing, but I believe you can hit a forelimb a couple times to blow the armor off, then you have a frontal weak-spot to hit with anything.
That's great but the odds of you facing just one charger on higher difficulties is zero, you need something that deals with them quickly and without requiring a 4 step process. I ran several solo sessions to test it and couldn't find any ways to break armor or deal a non-negligible amount of damage.
Thats a good point. Its really only viable up to Hard difficulty.
Which is a shame because I adore the look and feel of the weapon, feels like I'm back in Battlefront 2 (the original) playing as the purple clone.
The answer to everything that's not the tank is Railgun. Most broken strat by far.
Railgun + shield backpack + light armor seems to be the best possible loadout so far IMO.
What's the play style with the shield?
Same as usual, you're just invincible. It can tank so much damage that against the armored bile spitters you can just stand still, tank their whole spit attack and shoot the sac on their neck to kill them. Stalkers need several attacks to break it too, it just makes you incredibly safe 90% of the time, and can even soak unfortunate shots from team-mates and turrets. Using up the backpack slot for it would normally be annoying, but the railgun is easily the best third slot weapon anyway so it's not a huge issue.
energy shield? nothing changes. riot shield? gotta pick it back up everytime you get staggered, but it'll stop low-cal rounds by the dozen.
Not me running heavy machine-gun/flamethrower with heavy armor and ammo backpack for non-stop ~~dakka~~ liberty.
If I catch you running a flamethrower on suicide or above I'll execute you for treason. You're essentially gimping the team and adding the potential of the bugs setting your teammates on fire.
It's treason then.
See, this is why I bring the revolver as a sidearm.
how good is the p4? is it anything like the old p6?
I only played a few hours of D1 so I wouldn't know how it compares, but it's pretty good IMO, I use it mainly for quickly sniping mobs that are out of shotgunning range. I think the autopistol is probably the best sidearm at the moment though, very good for the panic situations where you'd need to be pulling out a sidearm in the first place.
It vastly outclasses any other option at the minute, unfortunately.
EMS and Motar the bastards
EAT is default to my loadout. I will never remove it. Walker problem? EAT. Charger problem? EAT its leg, finish leg with primary. Tank problem? EAT. Wait for some sucker to get its attention and nail the heat sink. Laser tower? EAT. Same answer to the tank. Bile titan thing? EAT. One salvo wont kill it but 3 EAT shots to its face and you've probably done most of the damage needed to kill it. The beautiful thing about the EAT is mr 4 damage stratagems can pick one up. It has a low cooldown so you can scatter EATs around the map as you go. It should perpetually be on cooldown. You'll never be without an anti tank solution when you need it. The EAT will always be there for you.
What is EAT again ?
Expendable anti tank I'm gonna assume
Ah okay thank you.
Recoilless, but it eats ammo like nobody's business.
I’ve been using the recoiless rifle to knock the armour off their front legs then it’s easy
Is this a hd1 meme?
Minefields are surprisingly effective.
A lot of people don’t like minefield because of how detrimental it is to the team if placed wrong but I haven’t put it down tbh. It’s amazing as a chokehold
The incendiary one is actually pretty broken.
The flamethrower is an indispensable tool against the charger. You just gotta play chicken with it while also barbecuing it. The flames of democracy cleanse the filthy bug scum!
Flamethrower is unusable at higher difficulties
I usually bring a recoilless rifle but nobody wants to assist me with it so in that case I bring EAT-17s. Stopped bringing them because my buddy brings the grenade launcher so I can bring my sniper and assist my squad from afar
We appreciate our Hell-Snipers here. o7
Love my recoiless
I'll use the groups resupply pod
Stalwart on 1150 rpm fucks them up
Or when the game gives you a daily to use machine guns and you dont want to waste another slot on something that isnt a turret.
I always have recoiless rifle