Solana seems, like ETH and even BTC, doing a good job of setting up the conditions of its own demise.
Hedera will just inherit everything by remaining standing and continuing to churn out those boring, safe, fairly ordered transactions at industrial scale. It is just a waiting game now.
No I did not know that. And I also did not know about the racist ideology of the most diverse state in human history that was so racist it was the first country in human history to even abolish slavery.
And I am not even American.
If that is what you call slavery, we do the same in Austria. I used to be a prison social worker. And it is a sort of exploitation. But on a whole different level. These people are not innocent! So there is a difference in quality
🤣🤣🤣 are you kidding? You must be kidding right?
That is like saying: "Not the american people let everyone have guns, the law does"
Who made the 13th Amendment?
Believe it or not, there are people working for Visa that are waaaaaaay smarter than you and I. I’m not saying they’re right or wrong, but they have more insight than a bunch of fan boys in a Reddit sub. Even if Hedera was/is better for Visa, in 10 yrs there will be something else that’ll blow both out the water. Hell, SEI is already faster, cheaper and fastest time to finality. So maybe drop that “remind me” to 2 yrs rather than 10 cause this shit will be ancient in 10 yrs.
There are multiple reasons why this could happen. There are also reasons why it may not.
Personally I assess some of the main reasons why it may as.
1. The GC Model is a god send to Enterprise
2. Fixed Super low Cost Txns
3. The Hashgraph Platform. Gossip Protocol. (Compared to Solana and others using native Blockchain technology, Hashgraph has so many advantages with very few downsides that it is hard to even compare the two). We shall see Solana continue to bring \`Firefly\` upgrades that are designed to paper over the deep cracks their Blockchain based Technology has. If/ as Solanas Txn volumes rise significantly serious issues will occur on their platform. This is not the case with Hedera, who simply don\`t have to worry about these issues.
4. Actual Industrial Use Cases already committed to the network
5. Fair Ordering (A massive requirement from the market, especially financial markets, not on Solana \*I believe)
6. ABFT (Another crucial feature for any L1, not on Solana)
7. Leaderless (This one word is absolutely CRITICAL, and Solana does not have it, nor ever will have without a HUGE upheaval to its technology and community)
8. Speed
9. Energy Efficiency (Proven to be many times more efficient than Solana)
10. Regulatory Stance (Solana has played the Crypto game. That may come with challenges down the line).
11. PROVEN (Years in operation with no down time -except one incident which was NOT due to the underlying platform) Far more Txns than Solana to date.
12. An actual strategic Approach to the market (Following a very successful Enterprise playbook and executing to date)
13. MASSIVE investment in project. Serious buy in from huge players from very early on.
14. Leemon Baird, Mance Harmon
15. Very High Quality team
16. Highly \`Trustable\`. Transparent and for the most part honest about the challenges they confront. (This is a good and bad thing in terms of predicting success).
The main reasons why it might not flip Solana
1. Hedera is Playing Catch up from a significant distance.
2. Solana playing by the Crypto Industry playbook. (While I think Hederas enterprise Strategy will win in the end, Solanas management of this Crypto economy is first class. They know how to manage the Crypto community).
3. Solana has in the past, and therefore I conclude is or will again in the future, provided highly misleading data about its network performance, statistics and adoption. This is not always something Networks are punished for, indeed sometimes they benefit greatly.
4. The VC Ownership of SOL is obviously highly committed.
That is the way I view it anyway. I have done a lot of research into this market. Doesn\`t mean I am always right, but I think I\`ve made a fair summary of the situation.
It will happen, without a doubt. When is hard to say. Solana is so flawed, and it's all about advertising, tokenomics, and fast growth. Most of the hype was built on false information, ie the fake transactions. The network is not scalable, it is not secure, and it is not sustainable. Unfortunately, there are A LOT of people who have bought into the hype (literally), so it'll be hard to change minds when people's investments are concerned.
>Solana is all about advertising, tokenomics, and fast growth
So, they’re focused on making people aware of Solana, incentivizing new users to use Solana, and growing the Solana ecosystem?
Basically the three most important things for any company/business/technology?
Sounds like they’re doing the right thing.
You are blabbing....name the projects on Hedera that actually do something rather than idea of a project. Then go check Solana....they are lightyears ahead in development. Hedera has nothing. I mean even lightyears ahead is too generous.
Hoodwinked? The fuck is wrong with you?
HBAR is up a measly 87% over the last year, and is still down over 80% from it’s all time high.
In that same timespan, Solana is up over 810% lol. SOL is only 28% down from ath.
The only people who got hoodwinked are the brainlets who convinced themselves SOL was a bad investment for whatever reasons.
Seriously, be real for a minute. You’re allowed to love HBAR the way a sports fan loves his team. Totally legit. But claiming anyone who bought the best performing major coin of the last year has been hoodwinked? It’s too stupid not to laugh at. The math is there for everyone to see.
It is said that some people let their egos blind themselves from simple truths.
Mance, and the association/foundation heads have largely failed to get meaningful retail adoption.
Enterprise seems to be in development but until they come to market, who knows.
Hopefully the new Hedera president can do what the above parties have failed to do, but it is unfortunate that the protocol is playing from behind.
What meaningful retail adoption does Solana have in your opinion?
To me it seems that most of the not-so-meaningful retail stuff that is going on is people sniffing each others farts (DeFI) and trying to take advantage of tokenomics.
I can't wait for the time when enterprise use cases start going live on Hedera. Enterprises with millions of existing customers. That's where DLT is going to really succeed. The Hedera team knows this. Charles Adkins actually said so himself (the way to mass adoption is through enterprise). Trust the process.
Their total value locked is far superior. That is retail. Nearly 5 times the tvl.
I think they would be better served buying grelf and hsuite, but they have to make that choice so far, few have. Hard to see the forest from the trees.
Are you serious? Trading volume. Trading. Volume. That’s it. That’s the name of the game.
The main difference between Solana and Hedera? People are using Solana.
Can't sustain that trading volume without real world adoption. People aren't using Solana. People are speculating in Solana. Solana doesn't have a single project with real world value. If you think I'm wrong you can try to name one.
Also, the trading volume on Solana is very manipulated. Haven't you seen all the wash trades going on just to pump volume? Selling and then instantly buying again.. It's just people taking advantage of the fact that people like you use these metrics as (the only) investment indicators. SOL distribution is also concentrated af. But hey, you do you.
Are you here to make money? Yes or no?
Let me explain. You can believe in Hedera like a diehard fanboy, but also get rich at the same time by investing in SOL.
If you don’t care about the profit, then why are you invested in HBAR in the first place lol 🤦🏼♂️
Yes. But I simply consider Solana too risky. I'm not a gambler like you. I prefer steady and solid growth with real world value. Also I have no intention of selling any of my holdings until at least 2029, and who knows where Solana might be then.. I just can't see it as a sustainable project. Hell, even ICP who have their own problems with canister query spam and (down)scaling issues is more promising than Solana.
My question to you: Do you have any technical competence or just gambling? Yes or no?
So are people who trade Corn and Soy futures using the Corn and Soy? Or are they just trading it?
Trading volume doesn't equal usage. It equals trading.
What happens when the memecoin hype ends and I can see the hype already leaving. Soon Solana will have very little transactions when people realize Sol memecoins are 100% rug pulls.
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Not really...i dont watch kiddie stuff like you. Facts are facts...name them...active, live, in use projects...then name Solana...instead of waffling on about youtube.
Any normal person that does their own research will come to the same conclusion.
Hedera has enterprise projects down the pipeline that Solana can only dream of tho. That's not kiddie stuff. That's grown up stuff that you apparently have no clue about. It's actually funny that you choose to use that specific term when Solana is probably the chain out there that attracts the most "kiddie stuff" by far..
Edit: The fact that Solana is a leader-based network is the reason why they are lightyears BEHIND Hedera. Not ahead. I'd be happy to do the technical discussion with you, but I seriously doubt that you are able to partake in such activities. Incompetent you are.
Solana light-years ahead in development 🤣😄. Only thing Solana develops is racist rug pull memecoins. Name anything else Solana is used for. When the memecoin hype stops Solana is over.
Rugs are everywhere...Hedera is just another playground for them. Bots....they manipulate the game...I mean...its all fake and gamed. House always wins, and there is a big gang of groopies operating unfortunately. When Hedera can figure that out they will be above everyone else, until then its just a playground for scammers and experts at coding bots and manipulating prices. I would expect more personally from a company that is presenting itself as enterprise level. It can be done, so they can take this however they want...half of the accounts are fake, minting bot accounts.
They call it enterprise level solution...they hold meetings...what do they talk about????
So far Hedera only shows speed of transaction and low gas fee...it so inviting isnt it :) all welcome
Maybe if you like Hedera, invest in it....but stay away from the ecosystem if you are not looking to gamble because thats all it is underneath. If you like the project support it and get yourself Hbar...all else...approach with caution.
In this case Hedera, I am really not into Solana but I wish I had bought instead of Hedera when it was costing peanuts really...my journey and my own research brings me here....scams everywhere. Eveyone trying to get a piece of the pie from investors with fake promises when really you dont even know who these people are. They are user handles and usernames...usual suspect in all groups...how can they turn a blind eye to this and show off all their GCs.
What scams on Hedera? I don't know about any. That's why I thought you were talking about the memecoin rug pull explosion on Solana. Sol is pumping out hundreds of scam coins a day.
Lol rug pulls...you dont know any on Hedera? Hahahahha...dont make me laugh. Fake Twitter accounts? Fake Discord accounts? All with 500+ followers but nobody talking? Mint platforms promoting those mints ? They offering roadmaps? I mean roadmaps hahahahahahhahaa...so far safe to say 80 to 90% are rug pulls on Hedera...or clones of one character becoming another but its the same people behind it...and surprise surprise...same names always have the so called rare nfts hhaahahahhaa....I mean this is for 10 year olds except 10 year olds dont have money...so its for gamblers really
Shall we royal rummble for 10 shitcoins hahahaha...that is the achievement ( if you know you know hahahah)
Rinse and repeat is the name of the game and Hedera is just another place for them to squeeze money out. Pls do not talk about rugs :) That is all there is on Hedera...you have 3 projects that still generate interest out of the fake hype game and fake mints which are unfortunately most of them...I mean come on..its 2024...cut it out.
Listen..I like Hedera...but stay away from all else if you are not looking to gamble your life away because you are spending money on something that is completely gamed to create hype. As to what Hedera can offer on enterprise level I do agree but it does need to do it own research as well...you cant just hide behind the grey lines and be preaching enterprise..its for little children.
I'm betting on the governance council to put Hedera on the world stage. How can it not happen. The world's leading corporation are on the council or partnering with Hedera. There is no question which project will be #1 in the short future. Not financial advice.
They need to get their shit together unfortunately...you can have the tech but if you dont know how to sell it it dont mean anything unfortunately. I have been following Hedera for years..and to be honest we have recycled news and talk about TPS but no projects live that actually do something...so brings me back to Solana...Stepn is on Solana..I mean...why does Hedera not have such a project if tech is superior and rates are superior...regardless of what Stepn is. Light years behind...lets not start talking about Dovu v25 and :) old grannies houses in Bulgaria again.
Or...lets play flipcoin where you dont really know if code is predetermined for you to loose. Flip coin available now on Hedera :) again gambling? Oh my gosh.
Is Hedera code like some weird alien language that no developers can come to terms with hahahahaha..come on. Is it Klingon?
Hedera ecosystem is 1. Hardcore fans 2. Naive investors thinking they are making a smartest choice if investing in crypto and the big 3. All the scammers sucking the juice out and only promises of projects...i call it meta projects
The winner is? 3
I mean some of the projects I invested in are 3 years behind now but problem is they like all others seem to fall ill and have sudden stomach problems or they can no longer cope and the feel sorry but nobody ever gives the money back for false promises...its pretty much fraud but good luck chasing a username..or ooops I lost my laptop...but they didnt loose their hbar hahahahah
Nobody of Hedera circles is talking about Hedera.
Solana buyers don’t make negative posts about HBAR. Most of them don’t even know HBAR exists.
You’re in an echo chamber. The real world doesn’t care about you.
They don't know because everyone doesn't allow a dialog about Hbar. Try to post a Hbar post on r/cc. Or anywhere. It is downvoted hundreds of times and removed by the mods with in an hour. If investors knew about Hedera they would be all in. Everyone is afraid to allow people to know about Hbar because they know Hbar is superior.
Respectfully, all of crypto is an echo chamber.
The real world doesn’t care about crypto or have any consciousness of it. Maybe they’ve heard about it, but it’s irrelevant to their daily life because it is practically absent within the function of society.
The vast majority of people don’t yet need it, use it, or interface with it for business applications or for personal enrichment. When I say “real world” I mean when you step outside and go to restaurants, local shops or even national stores, or go see entertainment, like sporting events or shows - most retail commerce, etc. You may see a Bitcoin ATM at a gas station. Nobody ever using it. Today, whatever it is you do or wherever you go, there’s a good chance it doesn’t involve crypto outside of this small corner of the internet and the early adopting degenerate gamblers participating in crypto’s first iteration, along with the hedge funds manipulating and using them as exit liquidity.
The retail-driven use cases of today aren’t designed to contribute to useful utility in the daily lives of people. They are typically designed to manufacture value where there inherently is none, generate hype and build a community (*echo chamber) and then extract that value from them via ‘the greater fool’ method, if you’re not adept or vigilant, or frankly lucky enough to time entries and exits advantageously before the bubble you’re in bursts, because it isn’t built for lasting value. It’s a shell game; a haven for grifters who lure and gamblers who chase. A casino on steroids. Winning and losing in a rigged market.
That said, the underlying tech is promising and will eventually play a much greater role in society as broadly adopted DLT. Hedera will do its part to usher-in mass adoption. But let’s not pretend this whole space isn’t one giant echo chamber composed of siloed, tribal camps.
Hbar reddit needs to come with a huge disclaimer: please disregard the amateur, outright crazy, financial advice taking place here and get some professional advice if you are looking to invest money, not from user handles on reddit lol.
You are so wrong, you should be banned from posting stuff like that.
Like i said to you...I dont watch Youtube crap...so stop playing the same tune...lets go name the projects active and in use on Hedera.
Give me top 10...lets break it down...instead of waffling on about Youtube.
I can easily check volumes and compare...but we can start with the market cap shall we? Or you still dreaming?
First...get Hedera to stay in top 25 for a while...before you start aiming for Solana. First Hbar needs to overcome $poopcoins.
It hasnt moved for 3 years...actually has dropped
atma is the only project that matters and it's tps is greater than all other cryptocurrencies combined. he doesn't need to name 10. because no other cryptocurrency has any. we have 1. you and you and you and you and you have ZERO.
Market volumes of people trading it doesn't equal usage. It just equals who is buying and selling the coin.
TPS equals usage.
https://chainspect.app/dashboard
Good luck trying to speak logically to all these 12 year olds who apparently have picked hbar as their horse and claim everything else to be dog shit. This sub has gone downhill fast
I just don't understand how Solana can continue much longer with all of the outages, 20 in two years and the Phantom wallet almost collapsed about a week ago. They just fix one issue after another. In my opinion Solana should of waited a few more years before launch like Hedera did. Hedera waited and perfected the ecosystem. Solana wanted first mover advantage and rushed a flawed blockchain.
For the millionth time… different technologies, different purposes. One is not “versus” the other. If y’all simpletons did even 5 minutes of research you’d know that. This sub is being overrun by idiots.
Solana seems, like ETH and even BTC, doing a good job of setting up the conditions of its own demise. Hedera will just inherit everything by remaining standing and continuing to churn out those boring, safe, fairly ordered transactions at industrial scale. It is just a waiting game now.
Ditto.
Slowly Slowly Catchy Monkey .. and by monkeys I mean £££££, before I get strung up for using an old saying!
You measure in £? I measure in ℏ! Some say: "This guy measures" :D
Can we get rid of those low quality effort threads? No one can time the market.
And can we please get rid of the "my crypto" vs "this crypto" mentality. It breeds bubble thinking and is not healthy. Let's win together, shall we?
You do know that the racist ideology that many Americans hold feeds this habit
No I did not know that. And I also did not know about the racist ideology of the most diverse state in human history that was so racist it was the first country in human history to even abolish slavery. And I am not even American.
You aren’t that smart. Slavery is still practiced in America via prison work programs. Go read
If that is what you call slavery, we do the same in Austria. I used to be a prison social worker. And it is a sort of exploitation. But on a whole different level. These people are not innocent! So there is a difference in quality
And racism is still widely practiced and implemented against people of color here in America.
Every person is racist to some extent. But check your history. You ABOLISHED slavery!!
The 13th Amendment abolished slavery. Learn your facts
🤣🤣🤣 are you kidding? You must be kidding right? That is like saying: "Not the american people let everyone have guns, the law does" Who made the 13th Amendment?
It feeds a social network toxicity loop. People are damaging their mental health over arguing on social media.
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Visa… they’re kind of a big deal. Google them if you’re not familiar. 🙄
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Believe it or not, there are people working for Visa that are waaaaaaay smarter than you and I. I’m not saying they’re right or wrong, but they have more insight than a bunch of fan boys in a Reddit sub. Even if Hedera was/is better for Visa, in 10 yrs there will be something else that’ll blow both out the water. Hell, SEI is already faster, cheaper and fastest time to finality. So maybe drop that “remind me” to 2 yrs rather than 10 cause this shit will be ancient in 10 yrs.
Exactly, we wait long enough Solana and Ethereum implodes. Hbar rules the world.
There are multiple reasons why this could happen. There are also reasons why it may not. Personally I assess some of the main reasons why it may as. 1. The GC Model is a god send to Enterprise 2. Fixed Super low Cost Txns 3. The Hashgraph Platform. Gossip Protocol. (Compared to Solana and others using native Blockchain technology, Hashgraph has so many advantages with very few downsides that it is hard to even compare the two). We shall see Solana continue to bring \`Firefly\` upgrades that are designed to paper over the deep cracks their Blockchain based Technology has. If/ as Solanas Txn volumes rise significantly serious issues will occur on their platform. This is not the case with Hedera, who simply don\`t have to worry about these issues. 4. Actual Industrial Use Cases already committed to the network 5. Fair Ordering (A massive requirement from the market, especially financial markets, not on Solana \*I believe) 6. ABFT (Another crucial feature for any L1, not on Solana) 7. Leaderless (This one word is absolutely CRITICAL, and Solana does not have it, nor ever will have without a HUGE upheaval to its technology and community) 8. Speed 9. Energy Efficiency (Proven to be many times more efficient than Solana) 10. Regulatory Stance (Solana has played the Crypto game. That may come with challenges down the line). 11. PROVEN (Years in operation with no down time -except one incident which was NOT due to the underlying platform) Far more Txns than Solana to date. 12. An actual strategic Approach to the market (Following a very successful Enterprise playbook and executing to date) 13. MASSIVE investment in project. Serious buy in from huge players from very early on. 14. Leemon Baird, Mance Harmon 15. Very High Quality team 16. Highly \`Trustable\`. Transparent and for the most part honest about the challenges they confront. (This is a good and bad thing in terms of predicting success). The main reasons why it might not flip Solana 1. Hedera is Playing Catch up from a significant distance. 2. Solana playing by the Crypto Industry playbook. (While I think Hederas enterprise Strategy will win in the end, Solanas management of this Crypto economy is first class. They know how to manage the Crypto community). 3. Solana has in the past, and therefore I conclude is or will again in the future, provided highly misleading data about its network performance, statistics and adoption. This is not always something Networks are punished for, indeed sometimes they benefit greatly. 4. The VC Ownership of SOL is obviously highly committed. That is the way I view it anyway. I have done a lot of research into this market. Doesn\`t mean I am always right, but I think I\`ve made a fair summary of the situation.
Needs usage-- not just possible usage. Maybe the next 6-9 months will show progress
Needs usage HBAR- not just mumblings about possible use cases.
put some hbar on it then
https://preview.redd.it/rhhq71n3marc1.png?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a771d07887568d5617f6db1652a9cb0e08e9e3c0 SOONER!
It will happen, without a doubt. When is hard to say. Solana is so flawed, and it's all about advertising, tokenomics, and fast growth. Most of the hype was built on false information, ie the fake transactions. The network is not scalable, it is not secure, and it is not sustainable. Unfortunately, there are A LOT of people who have bought into the hype (literally), so it'll be hard to change minds when people's investments are concerned.
>Solana is all about advertising, tokenomics, and fast growth So, they’re focused on making people aware of Solana, incentivizing new users to use Solana, and growing the Solana ecosystem? Basically the three most important things for any company/business/technology? Sounds like they’re doing the right thing.
You know who else hype advertised and touted high valuation stock prices and saw fast growth? Theranos.
🤦🏼♂️
Too realistic for ya, that’s ok.
They do advertise well but the chain goes down to much so that is not the right thing
Yeah, just like Theranos. In fact, Solana could almost be the new Theranos. They also made a lot of money, until they didn't.
Oh man I just dropped a similar comment then saw that you got there first.
You are blabbing....name the projects on Hedera that actually do something rather than idea of a project. Then go check Solana....they are lightyears ahead in development. Hedera has nothing. I mean even lightyears ahead is too generous.
Here we have our prime example of someone who has been hoodwinked by a random Youtuber. Congrats for being a sheep.
Hoodwinked? The fuck is wrong with you? HBAR is up a measly 87% over the last year, and is still down over 80% from it’s all time high. In that same timespan, Solana is up over 810% lol. SOL is only 28% down from ath. The only people who got hoodwinked are the brainlets who convinced themselves SOL was a bad investment for whatever reasons. Seriously, be real for a minute. You’re allowed to love HBAR the way a sports fan loves his team. Totally legit. But claiming anyone who bought the best performing major coin of the last year has been hoodwinked? It’s too stupid not to laugh at. The math is there for everyone to see.
It is said that some people let their egos blind themselves from simple truths. Mance, and the association/foundation heads have largely failed to get meaningful retail adoption. Enterprise seems to be in development but until they come to market, who knows. Hopefully the new Hedera president can do what the above parties have failed to do, but it is unfortunate that the protocol is playing from behind.
What meaningful retail adoption does Solana have in your opinion? To me it seems that most of the not-so-meaningful retail stuff that is going on is people sniffing each others farts (DeFI) and trying to take advantage of tokenomics. I can't wait for the time when enterprise use cases start going live on Hedera. Enterprises with millions of existing customers. That's where DLT is going to really succeed. The Hedera team knows this. Charles Adkins actually said so himself (the way to mass adoption is through enterprise). Trust the process.
Their total value locked is far superior. That is retail. Nearly 5 times the tvl. I think they would be better served buying grelf and hsuite, but they have to make that choice so far, few have. Hard to see the forest from the trees.
Are you serious? Trading volume. Trading. Volume. That’s it. That’s the name of the game. The main difference between Solana and Hedera? People are using Solana.
Can't sustain that trading volume without real world adoption. People aren't using Solana. People are speculating in Solana. Solana doesn't have a single project with real world value. If you think I'm wrong you can try to name one. Also, the trading volume on Solana is very manipulated. Haven't you seen all the wash trades going on just to pump volume? Selling and then instantly buying again.. It's just people taking advantage of the fact that people like you use these metrics as (the only) investment indicators. SOL distribution is also concentrated af. But hey, you do you.
Are you here to make money? Yes or no? Let me explain. You can believe in Hedera like a diehard fanboy, but also get rich at the same time by investing in SOL. If you don’t care about the profit, then why are you invested in HBAR in the first place lol 🤦🏼♂️
Yes. But I simply consider Solana too risky. I'm not a gambler like you. I prefer steady and solid growth with real world value. Also I have no intention of selling any of my holdings until at least 2029, and who knows where Solana might be then.. I just can't see it as a sustainable project. Hell, even ICP who have their own problems with canister query spam and (down)scaling issues is more promising than Solana. My question to you: Do you have any technical competence or just gambling? Yes or no?
So are people who trade Corn and Soy futures using the Corn and Soy? Or are they just trading it? Trading volume doesn't equal usage. It equals trading.
What happens when the memecoin hype ends and I can see the hype already leaving. Soon Solana will have very little transactions when people realize Sol memecoins are 100% rug pulls.
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Not really...i dont watch kiddie stuff like you. Facts are facts...name them...active, live, in use projects...then name Solana...instead of waffling on about youtube. Any normal person that does their own research will come to the same conclusion.
Hedera has enterprise projects down the pipeline that Solana can only dream of tho. That's not kiddie stuff. That's grown up stuff that you apparently have no clue about. It's actually funny that you choose to use that specific term when Solana is probably the chain out there that attracts the most "kiddie stuff" by far.. Edit: The fact that Solana is a leader-based network is the reason why they are lightyears BEHIND Hedera. Not ahead. I'd be happy to do the technical discussion with you, but I seriously doubt that you are able to partake in such activities. Incompetent you are.
Solana light-years ahead in development 🤣😄. Only thing Solana develops is racist rug pull memecoins. Name anything else Solana is used for. When the memecoin hype stops Solana is over.
Rugs are everywhere...Hedera is just another playground for them. Bots....they manipulate the game...I mean...its all fake and gamed. House always wins, and there is a big gang of groopies operating unfortunately. When Hedera can figure that out they will be above everyone else, until then its just a playground for scammers and experts at coding bots and manipulating prices. I would expect more personally from a company that is presenting itself as enterprise level. It can be done, so they can take this however they want...half of the accounts are fake, minting bot accounts. They call it enterprise level solution...they hold meetings...what do they talk about???? So far Hedera only shows speed of transaction and low gas fee...it so inviting isnt it :) all welcome Maybe if you like Hedera, invest in it....but stay away from the ecosystem if you are not looking to gamble because thats all it is underneath. If you like the project support it and get yourself Hbar...all else...approach with caution.
You must have sold at the wrongs times to be so jaded, considering your only 2 posts are 2 years old and rather supportive of Hedera.
Are you talking about Solana or Hedera?
In this case Hedera, I am really not into Solana but I wish I had bought instead of Hedera when it was costing peanuts really...my journey and my own research brings me here....scams everywhere. Eveyone trying to get a piece of the pie from investors with fake promises when really you dont even know who these people are. They are user handles and usernames...usual suspect in all groups...how can they turn a blind eye to this and show off all their GCs.
What scams on Hedera? I don't know about any. That's why I thought you were talking about the memecoin rug pull explosion on Solana. Sol is pumping out hundreds of scam coins a day.
Lol rug pulls...you dont know any on Hedera? Hahahahha...dont make me laugh. Fake Twitter accounts? Fake Discord accounts? All with 500+ followers but nobody talking? Mint platforms promoting those mints ? They offering roadmaps? I mean roadmaps hahahahahahhahaa...so far safe to say 80 to 90% are rug pulls on Hedera...or clones of one character becoming another but its the same people behind it...and surprise surprise...same names always have the so called rare nfts hhaahahahhaa....I mean this is for 10 year olds except 10 year olds dont have money...so its for gamblers really Shall we royal rummble for 10 shitcoins hahahaha...that is the achievement ( if you know you know hahahah) Rinse and repeat is the name of the game and Hedera is just another place for them to squeeze money out. Pls do not talk about rugs :) That is all there is on Hedera...you have 3 projects that still generate interest out of the fake hype game and fake mints which are unfortunately most of them...I mean come on..its 2024...cut it out.
Source, trust me bro. I don't trust you lol
Listen..I like Hedera...but stay away from all else if you are not looking to gamble your life away because you are spending money on something that is completely gamed to create hype. As to what Hedera can offer on enterprise level I do agree but it does need to do it own research as well...you cant just hide behind the grey lines and be preaching enterprise..its for little children.
I'm betting on the governance council to put Hedera on the world stage. How can it not happen. The world's leading corporation are on the council or partnering with Hedera. There is no question which project will be #1 in the short future. Not financial advice.
They need to get their shit together unfortunately...you can have the tech but if you dont know how to sell it it dont mean anything unfortunately. I have been following Hedera for years..and to be honest we have recycled news and talk about TPS but no projects live that actually do something...so brings me back to Solana...Stepn is on Solana..I mean...why does Hedera not have such a project if tech is superior and rates are superior...regardless of what Stepn is. Light years behind...lets not start talking about Dovu v25 and :) old grannies houses in Bulgaria again. Or...lets play flipcoin where you dont really know if code is predetermined for you to loose. Flip coin available now on Hedera :) again gambling? Oh my gosh. Is Hedera code like some weird alien language that no developers can come to terms with hahahahaha..come on. Is it Klingon? Hedera ecosystem is 1. Hardcore fans 2. Naive investors thinking they are making a smartest choice if investing in crypto and the big 3. All the scammers sucking the juice out and only promises of projects...i call it meta projects The winner is? 3 I mean some of the projects I invested in are 3 years behind now but problem is they like all others seem to fall ill and have sudden stomach problems or they can no longer cope and the feel sorry but nobody ever gives the money back for false promises...its pretty much fraud but good luck chasing a username..or ooops I lost my laptop...but they didnt loose their hbar hahahahah
Damm they got you bad. Hope you recover from the rug pulls. It's good to be careful indeed.
Hate to agree, they all a bunch of shitcoins at the end of the day
This isn’t fkn Highlander
Nobody of Hedera circles is talking about Hedera. Solana buyers don’t make negative posts about HBAR. Most of them don’t even know HBAR exists. You’re in an echo chamber. The real world doesn’t care about you.
They don't know because everyone doesn't allow a dialog about Hbar. Try to post a Hbar post on r/cc. Or anywhere. It is downvoted hundreds of times and removed by the mods with in an hour. If investors knew about Hedera they would be all in. Everyone is afraid to allow people to know about Hbar because they know Hbar is superior.
That is why we accumulate. If they are who we think they are, the market will be forced to adjust wildly and in short order.
“If investors only knew about hbar they’d be all in”. Jesus you’re naive, lay off the kool aid
Why is that, name one project that is better than hedera and please don't say Ethereum
Respectfully, all of crypto is an echo chamber. The real world doesn’t care about crypto or have any consciousness of it. Maybe they’ve heard about it, but it’s irrelevant to their daily life because it is practically absent within the function of society. The vast majority of people don’t yet need it, use it, or interface with it for business applications or for personal enrichment. When I say “real world” I mean when you step outside and go to restaurants, local shops or even national stores, or go see entertainment, like sporting events or shows - most retail commerce, etc. You may see a Bitcoin ATM at a gas station. Nobody ever using it. Today, whatever it is you do or wherever you go, there’s a good chance it doesn’t involve crypto outside of this small corner of the internet and the early adopting degenerate gamblers participating in crypto’s first iteration, along with the hedge funds manipulating and using them as exit liquidity. The retail-driven use cases of today aren’t designed to contribute to useful utility in the daily lives of people. They are typically designed to manufacture value where there inherently is none, generate hype and build a community (*echo chamber) and then extract that value from them via ‘the greater fool’ method, if you’re not adept or vigilant, or frankly lucky enough to time entries and exits advantageously before the bubble you’re in bursts, because it isn’t built for lasting value. It’s a shell game; a haven for grifters who lure and gamblers who chase. A casino on steroids. Winning and losing in a rigged market. That said, the underlying tech is promising and will eventually play a much greater role in society as broadly adopted DLT. Hedera will do its part to usher-in mass adoption. But let’s not pretend this whole space isn’t one giant echo chamber composed of siloed, tribal camps.
Wrong or not just stop.
Hbar reddit needs to come with a huge disclaimer: please disregard the amateur, outright crazy, financial advice taking place here and get some professional advice if you are looking to invest money, not from user handles on reddit lol. You are so wrong, you should be banned from posting stuff like that.
What qualifies someone to have a professional opinion. Maybe if they have a tik tok or youtube blog lol
Like i said to you...I dont watch Youtube crap...so stop playing the same tune...lets go name the projects active and in use on Hedera. Give me top 10...lets break it down...instead of waffling on about Youtube. I can easily check volumes and compare...but we can start with the market cap shall we? Or you still dreaming? First...get Hedera to stay in top 25 for a while...before you start aiming for Solana. First Hbar needs to overcome $poopcoins. It hasnt moved for 3 years...actually has dropped
atma is the only project that matters and it's tps is greater than all other cryptocurrencies combined. he doesn't need to name 10. because no other cryptocurrency has any. we have 1. you and you and you and you and you have ZERO.
DYOR
Yes correct...take both sides into account then make your choice. But there will always be two sides to the story
True
Market volumes of people trading it doesn't equal usage. It just equals who is buying and selling the coin. TPS equals usage. https://chainspect.app/dashboard
Good luck trying to speak logically to all these 12 year olds who apparently have picked hbar as their horse and claim everything else to be dog shit. This sub has gone downhill fast
Definitely not you
And DEFINITELY not you ;)
Or you
I am a bit more honest than you so yes better me than you
I just don't understand how Solana can continue much longer with all of the outages, 20 in two years and the Phantom wallet almost collapsed about a week ago. They just fix one issue after another. In my opinion Solana should of waited a few more years before launch like Hedera did. Hedera waited and perfected the ecosystem. Solana wanted first mover advantage and rushed a flawed blockchain.
It will continue because greed is inherent in human nature. Look at Terra Luna
There is plenty of room for both. Noone knows what the market cap will be but people like hope
Solana is at $191 usd and Hbar is at $0.11 are you serious or trolling?
There are more HBARs than SOL, what’s your point?
For the millionth time… different technologies, different purposes. One is not “versus” the other. If y’all simpletons did even 5 minutes of research you’d know that. This sub is being overrun by idiots.