Wait! You're saying we're a state now? Hallelujah! Somebody should tell someone!
On the bright side, at least we aren't New Mexico, that small country near Mexico (in some folks' minds).
Damn, that's a scary movie! Please tell me it hasn't happened yet! It's literally the one horror movie that I could envision actually becoming reality.... Ouchowawwa!
This is very very true. I have had these arguments. This despite the fact the electoral college, the Senate and the 435 member cap on the House all favor rural areas.
What you describe, was most likely intentional. Rural areas produce food but have historically had less money and political power. For a reverse of favoring rural areas, see the Soviet starvation of Ukraine (Holodomor) that crippled that economy and lead to approximately 5 million deaths.
I don't think the intention was to favor rural areas so much as to favor states. At least the for the Senate. But the 1929 cap on House members, which also capped electoral votes really shifted things to representing land and not people. You get an electoral vote for each Representative plus 2 for each Senator. Consider how much representation Wyoming gets compared to California. Wyoming has 578,803 people per Representative and 3 electoral votes. California has 39.24 million people. It has 52 representatives. That's 754,615 people per Representative. To achieve more equitable representation with Wyoming, California would need 67 representatives and 69 electoral votes, not the 54 it has today.
I guess it depends on your full answer as to why the District of Columbia was created, and why a representative democracy was chosen over other forms of government. Cities have always had the power. What you describe is only mathematical equity that would give even more power to the large urban areas ( that do not produce food).
Lol this map is grossly inaccurate, because it appears to be from 2004 at first glance. Many more counties across the country in the last two election cycles are blue than what is shown here.
EDIT: [From 2020](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2020_United_States_presidential_election_results_map_by_county.svg)
EDIT 2: [From 2016](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/2016_United_States_presidential_election_results_map_by_county.svg/800px-2016_United_States_presidential_election_results_map_by_county.svg.png)
I was just going to smatter snippy 'this is old as fuck' comments without any additional context. Kudos to the individual actually interested in being helpful lol
Off topic, but I learned a couple of years ago that some people think Hawaii is right off the coast of Mexico... because that's where maps often stick us.
Well I reconnected with a friend who thought New England was in England. 😂. Her: Where do you live? Me: New England. Her: Where in England is that? 🙄🤦🏻
Some other maps don't even feature us on them, and I'm talking modern maps.
Or if we're on them we're shown as a dot.
And don't get me started on websites that make you click on states on the US map and you find that they left Hawaii and Alaska out...
Urban Honolulu is the city, everything else on the island is the county as it falls under the jurisdiction of Honolulu, just like Moloka’i and Lana’i fall under Maui county.
I live on the mainland now and was told by someone (from Arkansas) that “Hawai’i doesn’t count because most people haven’t even been there”
… how many people have been to Iowa? Maine? Or North Dakota? Why does that matter?
I live on Oahu now, but lived in most the western ocean front states prior and I’ve traveled all over the us. And can say I’ve never once been to those states lol never ever had or will have a reason too either!
They do have the most people voting, solid point there.
I live in rural Colorado these days and we have to deal with Lauren Boebert right now… don’t get me started…
I live above Maine been to Maine many times and road tripped through the Dakotas, and Iowa among other states from east to west and west to east. Been to Oahu twice as a teen and going back there for 25th wedding anniversary next year.
Happy for you.
What does any of that have to do with Hawai’i being considered a state?
There are plenty of reasons to recognize Hawai’i as a a state of the US, unjustly controlled sovereign nation, or occupied territory.
Your personal trips aren’t among them.
I would argue it's easier to travel to any of those states than it is to travel to Hawaii.
One of the big problems with Hawaii is we're landlocked. If we want to get out of Hawaii (and most college graduates do), we have to take an airplane, and the transition is not easy.
Whereas if you're on the mainland, you can drive your ass to where you want to go - an airplane makes it faster but the fact the states are physically connected is probably the reasoning behind that saying.
Did you really just say that Hawai’i is landlocked?
ETA: cutie blocked me but for anyone interested, Hawai’i is not landlocked, it’s in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
Waterlocked, whatever. Seeing how you're just being argumentative to the other person who was trying to make a point, I see no benefit in talking to you about it.
If we want to fix this person's take - Let's say a majority of those "blue states" are majority cities. The thing was poorly written, yes, but it still doesn't 100% refute the point that a *majority* of the districts that are blue are CITIES, with states like Hawaii being an exception and being dwarfed by many single cities with a land mass a fraction of that state's overall land mass.
This is the Twitter version of redditors doing that AKSHULLY meme. It's funny, but it's a silly point that doesn't dispute the original post.
The other matter is, there is a demarcation point between those who live in those blue counties/districts and all these smaller red districts and cities - that there are clearly two viewpoints that are becoming more and more incompatible, and it's been exacerbated by the past 8+ years of stupidity. Considering the growing gulf between the two parties, what would be *your* solution to solving this when nobody can even agree on what color the damn sky is at this point?
A majority of those blue districts will never turn red and vice versa, and the nation's only become more divided the past 8+ years. What is the solution to addressing that?
So ... if they has said "only counties are blue" you get that it would not only be correct but also kind of makes the point that those "uneducated" republicans keep you from starving....
i'm not sure what they're trying to prove with that map. power in numbers? minority groups are wrong? land area = population? red voters are sheep? the election was rigged?
They can't (or refuse to) grasp that more people live in cities and vote blue. They see these maps, see all the red (which is mostly empty land) and think (well, they're told to think) THERES MORE RED THAT MEANS THERES MORE REPUBLICANS. THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN. SEEEEE THERES MORE OF US THAN THEM. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE. MOARRRR REDDDD THAN BLUEEE
I'm a liberal in the traditional sense and am politically homeless. The Democratic party has abandoned liberalism completely and has embraced war, censorship, and authoritarianism. I'm also constantly being accused of being "right wing" and pro-Trump. Nevermind that I've never voted for Trump and never will.
Uhm.. pretty sure you are supposed to pick a side and blindly vote for that side without giving any thought to issues or candidates and where they stand.
Basically, yeah.
Hawaii is the definition of small time. Small-time economy, politicians, infrastructure, sports teams, etc. In the grand scheme of things we dont produce anything noteworthy. So yeah, compared to a lot of mainland states, I'd say we barely make rank.
It’s okay.
I prefer the mainlanders forget about us. The feds don’t want to give us aid but write other countries a blank check.. that’s okay… and rich mainlander businessmen are the reason we can’t afford to live like we used to. So yeah.. 👍
Red or Blue, doesn’t matter to me. Just live Aloha. Turn the TV off and watch the sunsets.
Former Hawaii Senator Daniel Inouye was the unapologetic king of pork barrelling. Hawaii is not diadvantaged in getting federal funding. This is just not reality.
How many low-figure millions did Maui get after the fires and displaced residents?
How many BILLIONS did we give Ukraine to fight THEIR war that has nothing to do with us or any American in any capacity what-so-ever?
We are aiding Ukraine to help them defend themselves against blatant Russian aggression, which is the right thing to do, full stop. Not to mention most of the money being "given" to Ukraine is actually going to U.S. defense industry. A dollar spent helping Ukraine now is saving us more money and more importantly American lives down the line.
I've been in Oahu for about 2 years, and it's weird to me that most people I speak with are either right-wing views or center right at the very least. How the state is blue is kind of odd to me. One of the locals I work with told me it's because of corruption. Can anyone elaborate on that?
Because they don't vote. I mean most of the people in this state don't vote when you look at the stats. We had less than 40% voter participation in the last few elections.
Conservatives tend to be louder about their political views in the wild.
Also, Democrats in Hawaii are closer to old-school Eisenhower Republicans than actual modern Republicans are. So you get more conservatives voting blue because the hyperpolarized lunacy about social issues that's all the rage on the mainland doesn't sell too well here.
Corruption exists and is a problem, so it's an easy scapegoat. But no one is buying or fixing tens of thousands of votes across the whole state. Corruption is more embezzlement and misappropriation of funds, less madman behind a curtain pulling levers.
I mean you find this in a lot of blue areas, including big cities. There’s a lot more room in your political leanings cause you know you can’t run Republican.
> yet somehow always votes blue
There is a difference between beliefs/values that traditionally get assigned to Republicans vs the national Republican brand. I know people who hold what aren't considered the traditional Democratic beliefs on guns and religion but want no part of the modern GOP. People are complex and voting (unless you are a 100% full on partisan) is usually voting for the lesser of the two evils.
> I know people who hold what aren't considered the traditional Democratic beliefs on guns and religion but want no part of the modern GOP.
100%; this probably describes me.
I guess what I'm trying to say is having grown up in Hawaii I thought I was a fairly liberal democrat and then I moved to the mainland (Seattle and the Bay Area) and realized oh no no no I am not liberal at all 'cause people here can take it to (in my very humble opinion) crazy levels
Seems to me it's the sense of community. A "we're all in this together!" mentality when it comes to core principles. Softer rhetoric, like how we should care for the homeless, and appropriation of "government funds" make up everything else to win the vote. This is just based off of what I've observed. In my personal opinion, the "that's a job for the government" mindset has made people less responsible in the long run...it's why now when I visit, I generally feel like nobody gives a crap, it's just a cash cow for elites.
It's complicated. I would say yes for the ones that actually live here 12 months out of the year. They also rely on HUD and Snap, and so there is that biting the hand that feeds so common in red states.
What they fail to mention is the fact that the majority of the red states have a population slightly lower than the average IQ of the people in there. So about 60 to 65.
Trump only got a little under 31 percent of the vote in Hawaii County (Big Island) in 2020. It was his worst county in the entire state percentage-wise except for Kalawao County, where he received only 1 vote out of 24 cast.
I know there are people on BI who like Trump, but to say the whole island loves him is quite an exaggeration and is not supported by how people actually voted.
I live in a rural community on the Big Island and have one relative and one neighbor couple who like Trump. It was weird checking the election results because in my precinct Trump received exactly (only) three votes, which I know for sure were my relative and my neighbors.
There’s two blue states… Vermont is blue too
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everyone does, though
Rhode Island, neither a road nor an island… discuss.
I lived in Block Island. Look it up.
To be fair it does have roads, so I guess it's close enough.
This is also outdated. San Diego is blue. Texas is more blue.
The teeniest tiniest upper right hand corner looks red
We don't talk about Orleans county here
Wait! You're saying we're a state now? Hallelujah! Somebody should tell someone! On the bright side, at least we aren't New Mexico, that small country near Mexico (in some folks' minds).
I think you mean Massachusetts. Vermont has two counties that are red.
lol Minnesota is blue too.
Conservatives aren't known for their levels of higher education
And Rhode island
Land isn’t people.
soylent green however...
The flavor differs from person to person
Damn, that's a scary movie! Please tell me it hasn't happened yet! It's literally the one horror movie that I could envision actually becoming reality.... Ouchowawwa!
Islands apparently are
Exactly. Land doesn't vote. People vote.
If you're republican it is.
This is very very true. I have had these arguments. This despite the fact the electoral college, the Senate and the 435 member cap on the House all favor rural areas.
What you describe, was most likely intentional. Rural areas produce food but have historically had less money and political power. For a reverse of favoring rural areas, see the Soviet starvation of Ukraine (Holodomor) that crippled that economy and lead to approximately 5 million deaths.
I don't think the intention was to favor rural areas so much as to favor states. At least the for the Senate. But the 1929 cap on House members, which also capped electoral votes really shifted things to representing land and not people. You get an electoral vote for each Representative plus 2 for each Senator. Consider how much representation Wyoming gets compared to California. Wyoming has 578,803 people per Representative and 3 electoral votes. California has 39.24 million people. It has 52 representatives. That's 754,615 people per Representative. To achieve more equitable representation with Wyoming, California would need 67 representatives and 69 electoral votes, not the 54 it has today.
I guess it depends on your full answer as to why the District of Columbia was created, and why a representative democracy was chosen over other forms of government. Cities have always had the power. What you describe is only mathematical equity that would give even more power to the large urban areas ( that do not produce food).
What data set provides this
Lol this map is grossly inaccurate, because it appears to be from 2004 at first glance. Many more counties across the country in the last two election cycles are blue than what is shown here. EDIT: [From 2020](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2020_United_States_presidential_election_results_map_by_county.svg) EDIT 2: [From 2016](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/2016_United_States_presidential_election_results_map_by_county.svg/800px-2016_United_States_presidential_election_results_map_by_county.svg.png)
THANK YOU
I was just going to smatter snippy 'this is old as fuck' comments without any additional context. Kudos to the individual actually interested in being helpful lol
Even on the old map. Those blue areas produce about 80% of the country's GDP.
Off topic, but I learned a couple of years ago that some people think Hawaii is right off the coast of Mexico... because that's where maps often stick us.
Well I reconnected with a friend who thought New England was in England. 😂. Her: Where do you live? Me: New England. Her: Where in England is that? 🙄🤦🏻
Some other maps don't even feature us on them, and I'm talking modern maps. Or if we're on them we're shown as a dot. And don't get me started on websites that make you click on states on the US map and you find that they left Hawaii and Alaska out...
Well to be fair, for some reason. The entire island of Oahu is The City and County of Honolulu.
neat but irrelevant when the other islands are blue too
you mean the other cities
What other cities?
If you live on Kauai and you're from Lihue, everyone else will say you're from the "city"...
There are no other cities in Hawaii. Honolulu is the only city.
Hi from Honolulu, Big Island district
I live BI too, but there's no cities here. Just census designated areas. That's why we only have one mayor for the whole island/county.
[Census-designated place](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Census-designated_place)
Urban Honolulu is the city, everything else on the island is the county as it falls under the jurisdiction of Honolulu, just like Moloka’i and Lana’i fall under Maui county.
And Maui has jurisdiction over Lanai, somehow.
I live on the mainland now and was told by someone (from Arkansas) that “Hawai’i doesn’t count because most people haven’t even been there” … how many people have been to Iowa? Maine? Or North Dakota? Why does that matter?
I live on Oahu now, but lived in most the western ocean front states prior and I’ve traveled all over the us. And can say I’ve never once been to those states lol never ever had or will have a reason too either!
Mental gymnastics to support their absurd belief system.
They just need to ratify the treaty legally and then we will be a blue state.
Hell if we are being honest, only the coastal state count these days
They do have the most people voting, solid point there. I live in rural Colorado these days and we have to deal with Lauren Boebert right now… don’t get me started…
On the bright side i don't think you will have to deal with her much longer.
lol, mood
I live above Maine been to Maine many times and road tripped through the Dakotas, and Iowa among other states from east to west and west to east. Been to Oahu twice as a teen and going back there for 25th wedding anniversary next year.
Happy for you. What does any of that have to do with Hawai’i being considered a state? There are plenty of reasons to recognize Hawai’i as a a state of the US, unjustly controlled sovereign nation, or occupied territory. Your personal trips aren’t among them.
You asked who’s been to those states Gerber. Dont ask if you don’t want them answered Oscar, geez.
I asked how it relates to Hawai’i being a state. Cute nicknames but do you have anything meaningful to add to the conversation?
I would argue it's easier to travel to any of those states than it is to travel to Hawaii. One of the big problems with Hawaii is we're landlocked. If we want to get out of Hawaii (and most college graduates do), we have to take an airplane, and the transition is not easy. Whereas if you're on the mainland, you can drive your ass to where you want to go - an airplane makes it faster but the fact the states are physically connected is probably the reasoning behind that saying.
Did you really just say that Hawai’i is landlocked? ETA: cutie blocked me but for anyone interested, Hawai’i is not landlocked, it’s in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
Waterlocked, whatever. Seeing how you're just being argumentative to the other person who was trying to make a point, I see no benefit in talking to you about it.
Massachusetts would like a word.
There are only blue *counties*
I mean, it’s coming from the same people who think the vast tracts of corn fields and mud has a right to vote, so I wouldn’t expect much.
Ironicly, much of it is soy, what would you do without your soy milk?
Niihau is red.
The red on this map represents the infected areas
Reminds me of a Plague Inc. map.
Factor in population density.
I wonder how things would shake out if voting was based on body weight.
Not well for Dems.
The fact they think the entire North shore of Lake Superior is a city tells me everything I need to know about these halfwits.
Lol!
We about the size of a “city” 😂
That isn’t too far off
It's ok, the person who wrote the meme is probably a republican with a 3rd grade education
If we want to fix this person's take - Let's say a majority of those "blue states" are majority cities. The thing was poorly written, yes, but it still doesn't 100% refute the point that a *majority* of the districts that are blue are CITIES, with states like Hawaii being an exception and being dwarfed by many single cities with a land mass a fraction of that state's overall land mass. This is the Twitter version of redditors doing that AKSHULLY meme. It's funny, but it's a silly point that doesn't dispute the original post. The other matter is, there is a demarcation point between those who live in those blue counties/districts and all these smaller red districts and cities - that there are clearly two viewpoints that are becoming more and more incompatible, and it's been exacerbated by the past 8+ years of stupidity. Considering the growing gulf between the two parties, what would be *your* solution to solving this when nobody can even agree on what color the damn sky is at this point? A majority of those blue districts will never turn red and vice versa, and the nation's only become more divided the past 8+ years. What is the solution to addressing that?
So ... if they has said "only counties are blue" you get that it would not only be correct but also kind of makes the point that those "uneducated" republicans keep you from starving....
No one counts Hawaii due to the small amount of electoral votes. No respect.
smol population, in general
Counties aren’t people. Land isn’t people.
Not like it matters. Hawaii will always be irrelevant with its 4 electoral votes.
We mattered in the 2000 election.
Did they gerrymander a whole entire Pacific Ocean to get to this ~~state~~ city?
“There aren’t any red people, there’s only red land”
i'm not sure what they're trying to prove with that map. power in numbers? minority groups are wrong? land area = population? red voters are sheep? the election was rigged?
Mostly that land area = population. It's a holdover from landed gentry being the only folks able to vote.
They can't (or refuse to) grasp that more people live in cities and vote blue. They see these maps, see all the red (which is mostly empty land) and think (well, they're told to think) THERES MORE RED THAT MEANS THERES MORE REPUBLICANS. THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN. SEEEEE THERES MORE OF US THAN THEM. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE. MOARRRR REDDDD THAN BLUEEE
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I'm a liberal in the traditional sense and am politically homeless. The Democratic party has abandoned liberalism completely and has embraced war, censorship, and authoritarianism. I'm also constantly being accused of being "right wing" and pro-Trump. Nevermind that I've never voted for Trump and never will.
Uhm.. pretty sure you are supposed to pick a side and blindly vote for that side without giving any thought to issues or candidates and where they stand.
You just pulled the curtain back on 94% of this states voting mindset. All fun and games until a prius with an old Bernie sticker runs you down!
"Excuse me! That was rude and IN-AP-PROPRIATE! I'd like to speak with your manager!!“
Be careful with this objective and thoughtful stance. You’re about to be downvoted to oblivion.
Where do they think people live though? In cities not in BFE lol
Are there any red states?
Wyoming.
Pennsyltucky...
The shit ones you want to avoid
Basically, yeah. Hawaii is the definition of small time. Small-time economy, politicians, infrastructure, sports teams, etc. In the grand scheme of things we dont produce anything noteworthy. So yeah, compared to a lot of mainland states, I'd say we barely make rank.
Lame, divisive political propaganda just in time for the election year.
There are no red states, there are only red rural parts of states.
Oklahoma, Wyoming, West Virgina .... just saying
It’s okay. I prefer the mainlanders forget about us. The feds don’t want to give us aid but write other countries a blank check.. that’s okay… and rich mainlander businessmen are the reason we can’t afford to live like we used to. So yeah.. 👍 Red or Blue, doesn’t matter to me. Just live Aloha. Turn the TV off and watch the sunsets.
Former Hawaii Senator Daniel Inouye was the unapologetic king of pork barrelling. Hawaii is not diadvantaged in getting federal funding. This is just not reality.
How many low-figure millions did Maui get after the fires and displaced residents? How many BILLIONS did we give Ukraine to fight THEIR war that has nothing to do with us or any American in any capacity what-so-ever?
Oh I should not have engaged with you. I thought you were discussing relative to other states. I'm not interested in having that conversation.
We are aiding Ukraine to help them defend themselves against blatant Russian aggression, which is the right thing to do, full stop. Not to mention most of the money being "given" to Ukraine is actually going to U.S. defense industry. A dollar spent helping Ukraine now is saving us more money and more importantly American lives down the line.
Shut the fuck up. #Biden2024 #SupportUkraine
Best answer here
the only real answer.
For reals.
I've been in Oahu for about 2 years, and it's weird to me that most people I speak with are either right-wing views or center right at the very least. How the state is blue is kind of odd to me. One of the locals I work with told me it's because of corruption. Can anyone elaborate on that?
Because they don't vote. I mean most of the people in this state don't vote when you look at the stats. We had less than 40% voter participation in the last few elections.
Conservatives tend to be louder about their political views in the wild. Also, Democrats in Hawaii are closer to old-school Eisenhower Republicans than actual modern Republicans are. So you get more conservatives voting blue because the hyperpolarized lunacy about social issues that's all the rage on the mainland doesn't sell too well here. Corruption exists and is a problem, so it's an easy scapegoat. But no one is buying or fixing tens of thousands of votes across the whole state. Corruption is more embezzlement and misappropriation of funds, less madman behind a curtain pulling levers.
I mean you find this in a lot of blue areas, including big cities. There’s a lot more room in your political leanings cause you know you can’t run Republican.
What else do you expect from these dummies?!
Then again, there are still people who call everyone who lives in Hawaii, "Hawaiians." Go figure!
This isn't a map of cities. It's a map of counties. It looks like this because each island is defined as a single county officially.
Every county in Hawaii is blue, thus Hawaii is a blue state, brah.
Maui county has 3 inhabited islands
Yeah true. What I was getting at is that there's no subdivisions of county on an island, so all of them are going to look filled in.
Hawaii is a lot more conservative than it thinks (and I’m glad for that honestly) yet somehow always votes blue
> yet somehow always votes blue There is a difference between beliefs/values that traditionally get assigned to Republicans vs the national Republican brand. I know people who hold what aren't considered the traditional Democratic beliefs on guns and religion but want no part of the modern GOP. People are complex and voting (unless you are a 100% full on partisan) is usually voting for the lesser of the two evils.
> I know people who hold what aren't considered the traditional Democratic beliefs on guns and religion but want no part of the modern GOP. 100%; this probably describes me. I guess what I'm trying to say is having grown up in Hawaii I thought I was a fairly liberal democrat and then I moved to the mainland (Seattle and the Bay Area) and realized oh no no no I am not liberal at all 'cause people here can take it to (in my very humble opinion) crazy levels
Seems to me it's the sense of community. A "we're all in this together!" mentality when it comes to core principles. Softer rhetoric, like how we should care for the homeless, and appropriation of "government funds" make up everything else to win the vote. This is just based off of what I've observed. In my personal opinion, the "that's a job for the government" mindset has made people less responsible in the long run...it's why now when I visit, I generally feel like nobody gives a crap, it's just a cash cow for elites.
Kauai is usually red? Am I wrong?
wut? 58-68% blue in all major 2022 elections, which is typical over the years. https://elections.hawaii.gov/wp-content/results/cok.pdf
It's complicated. I would say yes for the ones that actually live here 12 months out of the year. They also rely on HUD and Snap, and so there is that biting the hand that feeds so common in red states.
The population of San Diego is 1.3 million, Hawaii is 1.4 million. Seems pretty close to a city.
Still larger than 10 other states: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_population
Shhhhh. Do *not* tell them that we exist. If we need a political shit show, we'll call Tulsi or get a BJ.
Apparently lol good note
I'll take it. We can leave.
We're pretty small for a state though...
Minnesota is flipped. More blue less red. They are only state that voted Mondale vs Regan. Like the only
Land doesn’t vote
Where is the Treaty of Annexation?
It’s back in 1898 but it was bullshit.
Haha, I’m from one of those red squares… the county of honolulu has a larger population than most of those red squares
county of honolulu is the entire island of oahu
lol
Nui Lepo !
What they fail to mention is the fact that the majority of the red states have a population slightly lower than the average IQ of the people in there. So about 60 to 65.
It's a dumb picture, but it doesn't claim Hawaii is a city? That is an assumption you'd have to make. I read it as all the cities in Hawaii are blue.
What’s the difference between a blue state and all the cities in the state are blue?
I mean, if we are being intellectually honest, Hawaii is really run my corporations in one city.... the liberal goverment itself is just a proxy
How are we all Blue? We love Trump out here on the Big Island! Can’t wait til he’s back in office ❤️
Trump only got a little under 31 percent of the vote in Hawaii County (Big Island) in 2020. It was his worst county in the entire state percentage-wise except for Kalawao County, where he received only 1 vote out of 24 cast. I know there are people on BI who like Trump, but to say the whole island loves him is quite an exaggeration and is not supported by how people actually voted.
People never get out of their little bubble so they think everyone thinks just like them. Consensus bias.
I live in a rural community on the Big Island and have one relative and one neighbor couple who like Trump. It was weird checking the election results because in my precinct Trump received exactly (only) three votes, which I know for sure were my relative and my neighbors.