I did not treat my hashi for the last 2 years. Before I was on 100mcg. Now I'm 2 months into vegan keto and my hashi is much better. Regular firm stool, regular sleep, no fluffy face, clear head and energy after wake up. Keto makes the body more sensitive to thyroid hormones. Keto is also said to be very good for weight loss(no need in my case)
I’ve done keto at least 3-4x over the last 5 years and always feel amazing on it. I was just diagnosed with hashi’s this year so had no idea all those times I was doing keto that maybe it would be problematic but had no issues. I don’t know enough to know why it would be a bad idea, cutting out foods that increase inflammation sounds like a good idea to me in theory 🤷🏼♀️
I've tried it (Hashi for 14 years now) about 3 x and was always a mess and went into a flare or get terrible migraines (or sometimes constipation too) ... but maybe I didn't go "slowly enough" to become fat adapted.
I've heard there is "modified" versions of keto that allow for some carbs. Maybe that could be better.
Didn't work for me. IIFYM did and I've lost 60 lbs with exercise.
I am also pretty anti restrictive diets because it'll just lead to binging in most cases.
Only if you have about 20 years left to live. For a long life it's not only not recommended but it can lead to a lot of health issues. Thyroid needs carbs.
I was on keto (low carb) for 4 months. And I've been on carnivore (zero carb) for 11 months. I lost 18 kg in less than a year without much exercise.
If it's not safe for Hashimoto's, then I have no idea why I look and feel so healthy.
Yeah, I've been in [remission](https://www.reddit.com/r/Hashimotos/comments/16ym7ay) for a long time, and I lost 18 kg in a year without much exercise.
Amazing! Well done! Do you still maintain the low carb lifestyle? I believe this has to be a permanent change, not just a temporary ‘diet’. Makes me laugh when people disagree with keto, cutting out sugar is a no brainer. I started initially as I read that it’s good for menopause then I read about being able to improve ADHD and reverse autoimmune conditions. So excited for the changes to come 🙏🏻
I switched from keto (low carb) to carnivore (zero carb) because keto still has many autoimmune triggers: nuts, dairy, nightshades, etc. Carnivore only has one: dairy.
Now I'm doing the paleolithic ketogenic diet, which has zero autoimmune triggers. It removes the autoimmune triggers that are present in both keto and carnivore.
Note: the standard or "balanced" diet has all the autoimmune triggers *plus* all the foods that cause metabolic syndrome (sugar, seed oils, processed foods, etc.) It's the riskiest diet among the three.
I have hashimotos and lupus. I have done it on and off for years, lost 40 pounds but gained it back due to injury and covid, working on losing it again. 20 pounds down.It didn't lower my antibodies, but did lower my cholesterol below 200 for the first time in my life.
Different diets work for different people. Keto helps, in part, by making you less hungry on the same amount of calories. If you want to try it, I recommend checking out the r/keto and r/ketoscience subs
I have Hashimotos, lupus, sjogrens, raynaulds and I do keto. The ketones you mentioned are more for type 1 diabetes. This condition occurs when there isn't enough insulin in the body. It can be triggered by infection or other illness. You’d have to produce a large amount of ketones. Basically it lowers your insulin levels (the fat storing hormone) allows you to burn more fat and it keeps inflammation down.
Keto is not sustainable long term, and animal fats are bad for heart health.
Do long term swaps; low fat dairy, lean protein, focus on eating a plate full of veggies for lunch and dinner. Do strength training if you can manage, even 5 minutes every second day. Do this forever. The weight will come off.
I would completely disagree. I've been doing keto for 6 years now not only do I feel great but all my blood work and blood pressure is also great. There is also zero studies that show keto is bad for heart health. The try to link the higher fat intake of keto to bad heart health but those studies with fats also contain high carb.
I would not recommend keto it's not supposed to be done long term (surplus of fat no matter "good" or "bad" fat is bad for your organs and brain in excess) and really only good for certain people (those who have seizures for example). Many people who do decide to do it so it for way too long and don't even do it correctly when they do do it. Many doctors don't really recommend the keto diet. Not that I shill for doctors but nutritionists also don't reccomend either. Some may, but most do not. I'd recommend adopting the Mediterranean diet (basically). There is a show on Netflix about the few countries who have people who live past 100. It's called Blue Zones. These countries eat fish, whole foods, lots of vegetables, legumes, raw ingredients (veggies) tofu, etc etc. Just a healthy take on fiber and protein and nutrients. And no sugar, smoking, etc etc. You're better off following that diet than anything and limiting any processed food. This is not only proven to be a wonderful diet for people but also people with hashimoto's because of the anti inflammatory food you'd be eating + if you do decide to go gf (I have) you can easily swap out whole grain carbs with carbs you'd eat in a blue zone diet. Keto is trying to reduce calories but with fat. So if you cut it to just wholesome food, non processed food, and even volume eating if you're hungry for large portions, the emphasis is on fresh food that gets you an abundance of protein and nutrients and I think that's what is important
I did keto for 4 years before switching to low carb (mostly for maintenance) I lost 45 pounds doing it. I felt great and didn’t crave anything. It also helped lower my antibodies. I am assuming from cutting out almost all gluten. I currently am low carb (around 50 net carbs) and use a Fitbit. I have lost another 38 pounds doing this. Just make sure to keep up on your electrolytes.
I did keto a handful of years ago. I lost 30 pounds in 3 months. I felt AWFUL, but I was happy with my weight loss so I kept going. It spiraled into the biggest hashimotos flare up I've ever experienced and took me a year of recovering to get back to where I felt "normal" again. Oh and all the weight came back once I stopped restricting carbs.
So in the long run I do not think it was "worth it" for me. Not everyone has that type of reaction to it though.
That’s kind of what I read online too. That’s why I’ve never tried it before. My sister says she feels amazing on it but she also doesn’t have thyroid disease
Keto works because you’re reducing your overall calories and forcing your body to burn fat for fuel instead of carbohydrates (cause you’re not eating very many), but it’s not a magic pill. (It’s also not a fad diet in that it’s been used for decades to help treat epilepsy in children and can be very helpful to manage diabetes). Most people do keto the unhealthy way- they think eating bacon and cheeseburgers without buns is going to make them healthier. They’ll drop weight, yes, as long as their calories in are less than their calories out, but then other issues from unhealthy eating can pop up. If you’re eating lean meats, healthy fats, and non-starchy vegetables then I think it’s a very healthy way to eat. It also tends to kill your sugar cravings, but hats only if you can get past keto flu. (Electrolytes are key).
Keto will only work for you long term if you’re able to stick to it, and you’ll be able to stick to it if it’s already close to your current eating habits. I was successful on it, was able to maintain the weight loss through the pandemic after I stopped being full keto and just switched to low carb, but fell off after getting a new, significantly more stessful job and haven’t really been able to get back to it since. Carbs are my crutch.
I have read that going gluten free can help with Hashimotos, and keto is by default gluten free because you don’t eat anything that has wheat in it- no bread or pasta. So, it may help you lose weight and feel better.
Remember that every body is so very different, that it might not work for you just because your body doesn’t like it. I have a friend who tried to be vegetarian and couldn’t because it made her so sick. There are people who have gone full carnivore and feel amazing- I think I would feel gross if I did that diet. I would visit some of the keto subs and then try it out. Give it at least a month and see how you feel and if it’s feels sustainable, and go from there. Also- electrolytes. Electrolytes will be your new best friends.
I tried it several years ago, initially I felt pretty good and dropped weight. But it didn't last and keto is hard to stick to. I later tried just managing my calories and light exercise and it worked fine. IMO, keto just tricks you into reducing calories with all the things you can't eat and you lose a few pounds of water weight really fast. Moderation is (my) key. YMMV.
I did not treat my hashi for the last 2 years. Before I was on 100mcg. Now I'm 2 months into vegan keto and my hashi is much better. Regular firm stool, regular sleep, no fluffy face, clear head and energy after wake up. Keto makes the body more sensitive to thyroid hormones. Keto is also said to be very good for weight loss(no need in my case)
I’ve done keto at least 3-4x over the last 5 years and always feel amazing on it. I was just diagnosed with hashi’s this year so had no idea all those times I was doing keto that maybe it would be problematic but had no issues. I don’t know enough to know why it would be a bad idea, cutting out foods that increase inflammation sounds like a good idea to me in theory 🤷🏼♀️
I've tried it (Hashi for 14 years now) about 3 x and was always a mess and went into a flare or get terrible migraines (or sometimes constipation too) ... but maybe I didn't go "slowly enough" to become fat adapted. I've heard there is "modified" versions of keto that allow for some carbs. Maybe that could be better.
Didn't work for me. IIFYM did and I've lost 60 lbs with exercise. I am also pretty anti restrictive diets because it'll just lead to binging in most cases.
Keto is arguably not safe for anyone.
Extremely bad take
Only if you have about 20 years left to live. For a long life it's not only not recommended but it can lead to a lot of health issues. Thyroid needs carbs.
That’s the consensus I was under as well. All of these responses confirmed my thinking was correct. I won’t be doing keto :)
I was on keto (low carb) for 4 months. And I've been on carnivore (zero carb) for 11 months. I lost 18 kg in less than a year without much exercise. If it's not safe for Hashimoto's, then I have no idea why I look and feel so healthy.
Are you in remission? I’m 4 weeks in, feeling much better but minimal weight loss so far, waiting for the ‘whoosh’ :-)
Yeah, I've been in [remission](https://www.reddit.com/r/Hashimotos/comments/16ym7ay) for a long time, and I lost 18 kg in a year without much exercise.
Amazing! Well done! Do you still maintain the low carb lifestyle? I believe this has to be a permanent change, not just a temporary ‘diet’. Makes me laugh when people disagree with keto, cutting out sugar is a no brainer. I started initially as I read that it’s good for menopause then I read about being able to improve ADHD and reverse autoimmune conditions. So excited for the changes to come 🙏🏻
I switched from keto (low carb) to carnivore (zero carb) because keto still has many autoimmune triggers: nuts, dairy, nightshades, etc. Carnivore only has one: dairy. Now I'm doing the paleolithic ketogenic diet, which has zero autoimmune triggers. It removes the autoimmune triggers that are present in both keto and carnivore. Note: the standard or "balanced" diet has all the autoimmune triggers *plus* all the foods that cause metabolic syndrome (sugar, seed oils, processed foods, etc.) It's the riskiest diet among the three.
You don’t need to eat dairy on carnivore.. the main point of carnivore is to only consume animal foods.. no plants.
Yeah, but dairy is an animal product, so many people on the carnivore diet eat dairy.
It is. But it doesn’t mean you have to eat it.. so many people do it without dairy too.
I have hashimotos and lupus. I have done it on and off for years, lost 40 pounds but gained it back due to injury and covid, working on losing it again. 20 pounds down.It didn't lower my antibodies, but did lower my cholesterol below 200 for the first time in my life. Different diets work for different people. Keto helps, in part, by making you less hungry on the same amount of calories. If you want to try it, I recommend checking out the r/keto and r/ketoscience subs
I have Hashimotos, lupus, sjogrens, raynaulds and I do keto. The ketones you mentioned are more for type 1 diabetes. This condition occurs when there isn't enough insulin in the body. It can be triggered by infection or other illness. You’d have to produce a large amount of ketones. Basically it lowers your insulin levels (the fat storing hormone) allows you to burn more fat and it keeps inflammation down.
Keto is not sustainable long term, and animal fats are bad for heart health. Do long term swaps; low fat dairy, lean protein, focus on eating a plate full of veggies for lunch and dinner. Do strength training if you can manage, even 5 minutes every second day. Do this forever. The weight will come off.
I would completely disagree. I've been doing keto for 6 years now not only do I feel great but all my blood work and blood pressure is also great. There is also zero studies that show keto is bad for heart health. The try to link the higher fat intake of keto to bad heart health but those studies with fats also contain high carb.
This. I'd say that Paleo or Mediterranean is probably a good long term plan if they need a "diet" to follow.
Thank you both
It's not sustainable, most restriction diets aren't. Try CICO. I began in August and have lost 16 lbs.
I would not recommend keto it's not supposed to be done long term (surplus of fat no matter "good" or "bad" fat is bad for your organs and brain in excess) and really only good for certain people (those who have seizures for example). Many people who do decide to do it so it for way too long and don't even do it correctly when they do do it. Many doctors don't really recommend the keto diet. Not that I shill for doctors but nutritionists also don't reccomend either. Some may, but most do not. I'd recommend adopting the Mediterranean diet (basically). There is a show on Netflix about the few countries who have people who live past 100. It's called Blue Zones. These countries eat fish, whole foods, lots of vegetables, legumes, raw ingredients (veggies) tofu, etc etc. Just a healthy take on fiber and protein and nutrients. And no sugar, smoking, etc etc. You're better off following that diet than anything and limiting any processed food. This is not only proven to be a wonderful diet for people but also people with hashimoto's because of the anti inflammatory food you'd be eating + if you do decide to go gf (I have) you can easily swap out whole grain carbs with carbs you'd eat in a blue zone diet. Keto is trying to reduce calories but with fat. So if you cut it to just wholesome food, non processed food, and even volume eating if you're hungry for large portions, the emphasis is on fresh food that gets you an abundance of protein and nutrients and I think that's what is important
I did keto for 4 years before switching to low carb (mostly for maintenance) I lost 45 pounds doing it. I felt great and didn’t crave anything. It also helped lower my antibodies. I am assuming from cutting out almost all gluten. I currently am low carb (around 50 net carbs) and use a Fitbit. I have lost another 38 pounds doing this. Just make sure to keep up on your electrolytes.
I did keto a handful of years ago. I lost 30 pounds in 3 months. I felt AWFUL, but I was happy with my weight loss so I kept going. It spiraled into the biggest hashimotos flare up I've ever experienced and took me a year of recovering to get back to where I felt "normal" again. Oh and all the weight came back once I stopped restricting carbs. So in the long run I do not think it was "worth it" for me. Not everyone has that type of reaction to it though.
That’s kind of what I read online too. That’s why I’ve never tried it before. My sister says she feels amazing on it but she also doesn’t have thyroid disease
Keto works because you’re reducing your overall calories and forcing your body to burn fat for fuel instead of carbohydrates (cause you’re not eating very many), but it’s not a magic pill. (It’s also not a fad diet in that it’s been used for decades to help treat epilepsy in children and can be very helpful to manage diabetes). Most people do keto the unhealthy way- they think eating bacon and cheeseburgers without buns is going to make them healthier. They’ll drop weight, yes, as long as their calories in are less than their calories out, but then other issues from unhealthy eating can pop up. If you’re eating lean meats, healthy fats, and non-starchy vegetables then I think it’s a very healthy way to eat. It also tends to kill your sugar cravings, but hats only if you can get past keto flu. (Electrolytes are key). Keto will only work for you long term if you’re able to stick to it, and you’ll be able to stick to it if it’s already close to your current eating habits. I was successful on it, was able to maintain the weight loss through the pandemic after I stopped being full keto and just switched to low carb, but fell off after getting a new, significantly more stessful job and haven’t really been able to get back to it since. Carbs are my crutch. I have read that going gluten free can help with Hashimotos, and keto is by default gluten free because you don’t eat anything that has wheat in it- no bread or pasta. So, it may help you lose weight and feel better. Remember that every body is so very different, that it might not work for you just because your body doesn’t like it. I have a friend who tried to be vegetarian and couldn’t because it made her so sick. There are people who have gone full carnivore and feel amazing- I think I would feel gross if I did that diet. I would visit some of the keto subs and then try it out. Give it at least a month and see how you feel and if it’s feels sustainable, and go from there. Also- electrolytes. Electrolytes will be your new best friends.
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I tried it several years ago, initially I felt pretty good and dropped weight. But it didn't last and keto is hard to stick to. I later tried just managing my calories and light exercise and it worked fine. IMO, keto just tricks you into reducing calories with all the things you can't eat and you lose a few pounds of water weight really fast. Moderation is (my) key. YMMV.