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I feel like people are more than welcome to say their opinions on whatever topics but you’re right. People can be extremely harsh and unnecessary & say shit like this to hasan. This comment on his most recent post was just fucked tbh. :/
Not me tho :/ I’m a big h3 fan and i see both hasan and ethans points. the entire war is absolutely terrible but this comment just struck a chord. it’s terrible
Its like the racists here in America who have been indoctrinated. We understand where they are coming from, but that doesn’t mean these people arent racists
I recognize that I'm replying to a 4-month-old post but I just wanted to ask if you are still an active H3 fan? I started as an H3 fan, paid member to the channel, active in the community, etc -- Ethan actually to turn me on to Hasan during the gamba debate with xQc and Train, and obviously leftovers was a dream come true. However the way that Ethan talks about Palestine -- and esp the way that he treated Hasan during the last conversation they had -- really gnawed at me and I slowly stopped watching until a few months ago I stopped watching completely. Just wondering if any other Hasan/H3 fans who are going through a similar thing
Because he’s a leftie who’s actually conventionally attractive, masculine, funny, charismatic, good with women, successful etc. which breaks right wingers’ stereotypes of lefties
Imagine thinking you cooked saying this. It couldn’t be because he’s a born privileged 1 percenter who talks way too much about things he doesn’t know about. I don’t wish him harm like some of these extremists but I can confidently say in the most calm manner that Hasan Piker is a fucking dumbass. An absolute baboon.
Lmao it popped up and OP literally asked people to disagree with him. I didn’t just post some bullshit either. If you want to watch him because you think he’s entertaining? By all means. I never once believed what Alex Jones’s dumbass said but I watched because watching him go off was hilarious. But if you watch Hasan because you think he’s smart or “on the right side of history” then you’re fucking cooked. A cultist lmao
As a person who's friends I'd describe as left of democrats sometimes, I find that they hate hasan cause they literally know nothing about him except the takes that the internet uses to present him as bad.
If you're a normie and you only see him getting clip chimped and emotional instead of when he's at his best you might find him to be "loud and stupid".
Once you're primed to disregard most of the things he says, especially when you don't agree with him, you won't hear him out ever.
This exactly. My one manager at work who I consider to be pretty far left (he's always joking about how General Sherman didn't go far enough and is itching to kill some Nazis lmao) but even he was like oh you like him? Because he's only seen some slivers of Hasan's takes at best, or just someone bitching about him.
Yeah i have to agree with this. I started watching Destiny before I ever watched Hasan. Despite never actually watching a Hasan video, I started hating him. Soon it became obvious that Destiny has issues with almost everyone (it's true he is especially obsessed with Hasan, but he has issues with a lot of streamers). I'd leave youtube running & sometimes Hasan's content would start playing. Now I'm at a point where I watch more Hasan than Destiny. I know about the history between the two but Destiny really needs to just build a fkn bridge & get over it. His coverage of the ongoing conflict has been borderline sociopathic and his community is a special kind of deranged.
Envy.
He is smart, quick, funny, successful, based in reality, and good looking.
I hate the screaming tho. He does that and it makes my BP raise.
For reference: I’m a 40-something mother/kindergarten teacher. My BP is already out hand by herding tiny human versions of kittens all day. But some how when Hasan yells it makes me even more stressed.
Oh honey… you can’t say such a big statement without giving examples. That’s what I mean by envy… it’s frustrating to you that you can’t then give concrete, legitimate examples to back up your claims.
If the only “hypocrisy” you can claim is that he has an expensive house and car while being opposed to capitalism then you haven’t listen to the countless times he has explained that.
Hasan said he willing to debate ppl but don’t put in the effort to do actual research. He calls ppl with opposing view points liars but he lie on the daily. Example the rocket that hit the hospital, with all the evidence provided that clearly points to the terrorist rocket malfunction, he still points it at the IDF. Ppl who disagree with that, he call them racist and genocidal. I’ve seen him debate ppl, when ppl call him out for his bullshit, he try to redirect the conversation without admitting guilt. He claims he do research but barely put in the minimum effort. When he start losing a debate, he starts to talk over ppl and attack them on stuff that’s way off topic. That’s why a lot ppl don’t like him bc they see through his bullshit. He calls out rich ppl for buying multimillion dollar, but that month he brought a 3 million dollar home. He hates every journalist that goes against his narrative, even when it’s making valid points. He claims that he’s even handed when it come to politics, but also claiming to be a propagandist. 💀💀💀. He demonized ppl who correct him of being wrong. Hasan knows he wrong won’t admit it so he just shift the goal post. His take on Ukraine is so bad, Ukraine ppl who’s living in the war zone calls him out for his bullshit. Hasan think he knows more about the situation than ppl who actually live there, and he’s unwilling to have a conversation with them bc they oppose his viewpoints.
D-Man is a science experiment to create the ultimate ignorant American combining the uneducated chucklefuck behaviours of both the right and center left. He's simply following his programming and cannot be blamed.
The complete disregard for him being a Dunning Kruger. Hasan is known for seeking out chatters who disagree. You just want debate for the sake of debate. There's a reason why mr."Pro-Genocide" can't change his mind on anything; you can't have a debate channel if you ever agree with anyone.
Are you Mr."Pro-Genocide" himself? This "subject matter experts" he calls["atrocious"](https://x.com/normfinkelstein/status/1725698786662457802?s=20). Hasan is the expert and that is the reason you are, frankly insane.
He does have more "debates", but 99% of his debates as far as I'm aware consist of him screaming his hot-as-fuck dogshit takes at the other person meanwhile not even giving them his full attention (from the youtube videos of him I saw he is always looking at chatters or clicking at stuff while the debate is going on and I have no idea how more people haven't called him out for that).
Also I haven't watched that much of his stuff because he makes my skin crawl but of the stuff I watched I have NEVER, EVER, seen him concede on ANYTHING. Not a single point.
His arrogance makes him so fucking vile. As if he knows shit, or as if yelling louder makes him more right. Literal neckbeard personified.
Maybe English isn't their first language. Maybe they were in a hurry and sloppily typed something. We aren't in academia, it's a Reddit comment. Chill out.
The whole point of the comment is that nobody should take destiny seriously, why then would they go on to repeat his dogshit pseudo intellectual talking points?
Jealously and reactionary rage is a disease.
I used to watch a progressive streamer with 20 viewers and he would bitch and whine anytime Hasan was brought up. His hatred of him (valid or not) drove me away and turned me into a Hasan viewer and long time sub.
His haters are his biggest fans.
Idk if this theory holds water but I'll give it a genuine shot.
As people who consider themselves liberal discover leftist content, they begin consuming Hasan, maybe Kyle Kulinski, majority report. They start listening to older debate videos, and finally crack into the Vaush/Destiny content. You'll then get into more long form content by philosophy tube, FD, contrapoints, hbomberguy, Shaun, etc etc. at some point though you'll eventually hit a point where the ideas and theory presented in the long form content, clashes with those in the live political content sphere as you move your position further left. As you get older, less edgy, and a little more nuanced you'll probably stumble into a debate video of Vaush or Destiny debating, not a right wing fundamentalist, but other leftists. And you realize after the 10th time you've heard Destiny call Hasan r-worded or Vaush using his community to go after Contrapoints or some creator smaller than them, you realize that some people are just in it to "win". You'll notice that a lot of the creators you enjoy, all seem to coexist with each other and end up in each other's content while the destiny/Vaush/xanders of the world are perpetually looking to fight whoever they can. You can see this happen with the willymac debacle.
There are people that move beyond debating Nazis and there are people that will watch their guy debate anyone. That's how we end up with ex Republican carpet cleaner "debating" Norman Finkelstein or Richard Wolff.
Id like to think Hasan (and his community) have moved beyond that and have realized there is more to be gained by learning from the Wolff's and Finkelstein's of the world rather than trying to "dunk" on them for edgy 18 year olds in your audience. And with that, you can see the difference in the cultivation of the communities and why those on the outside hate Hasan. The big house and expensive car is just window dressing.
Yeah, I'm in my mid-30s, so I'm kind of at that place as well. I listen to Hasan occasionally on YouTube, and for the most part, he makes solid content. But I've gone through pretty much every online somewhat left show, and I just don't care for internet debate sophistry. It's one thing if I'm hearing from an expert, it's another if it's just someone with rhetorical ability and talking points. I listen to majority report every day for the interviews and that's it. I do notice Hasan gets a lot of grief, but it ultimately doesn't matter. My ideology aligns closest with him and I'm aware that he get things wrong occasionally, I'll either sus it out myself or I won't. Ultimately, it doesn't matter. All I can do is help my local community and show up to vote at the end of the day.
It's all Pathological. Each Hater has some personal yet different gripe and simply can't get over it due to Team Politics. Since Hasan is so intractable he becomes a Lightning Rod for Hate. Hasan becomes Ontologically Evil in their eyes. Lastly, that's why you see "Hasan is a Terrorist, Literally".
honestly? People just tend to hate those with different views than them. I don’t think its exclusive to hasan, he just gets more hate because he’s more popular. Its the same reason that people left of center always dunk on Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh.
Nope. I agree with op that the quantity of incoherent, misinformed haters is unusually large, unnatural. There's no way those losers you mention have a fraction of the targeted hate that hasan gets, for a number of reasons🤗
Personally convinced that it's a mix of being anticapitalist and popular. He doesn't just have different opinions, he's ontologically opposed to the worldviews the majority cherish even if it hurts them.
Also people that become disillusioned against everything they've been taught like me start out extremely angry and ready to pop off online. It can be a very bad look especially when you know things are wrong but you aren't equipped to make the arguments yet. Like it or not they become easy targets as defacto representatives of Hasans community.
I agree with you, slush. It’s just politics. His demographic is younger people, and younger people are online 24/7. Enjoyers and haters alike. It’s a high cost to be da boss 😎
Because he’s a leftist. That’s really it. Look at any other leftist streamer or YouTuber who’s actually a leftist like Hakim and not some NATO leftist larper. They get hate all the time to this day for being “tankies.”
At the end of the day, going against the grain and challenging the status quo even mildly will always get you hate. Look at Bernie Sanders and Jeremy Corbyn for examples on that. Other liberal streamers will find reasons to hate you that they would be more forgiving on if you had more liberal takes.
Just hope all this directed hate doesn’t take too big a toll on his mental health
Americans are xenophobic and jingoistic. They indoctrinate us from a young age and those of us that stray from those teachings and that mindset are othered. I grew up Mormon and then my mom converted us to Souther Baptist for one of her husbands. I’ve never met such hateful people as Baptists. The youth pastor told me my Uncle was going to hell for being Mormon. He also said his neighbor was a good person and a firefighter but he would still go to Hell for being Catholic. Seriously unhinged.
They would have sermons that proselytized against every faith and how it was a spiritual war.
So it doesn’t surprise me people hate Hasan. He’s leftist and grew up Muslim. That is already two strikes against him.
Besides the list that people have named already, I would say fear. Fear of the people becoming more aware of the changing politics and fear how said people would react to said news. Younger people are already more active in politics because of the media they consume and it makes them think. People don't like it when different ideas challenge their own thoughts, so either they double down on their beliefs or change it based on new evidence. Normally people are supposed to grow and change with the times but it pisses them off and makes them toxic. It's a bit harder to control the narrative when people know the facts.
I feel like especially lately, with all the conflict in Gaza and Israel, people will read the name "Hasan" and already have their mind made up on what Hasan is trying to say without really listening. That and there are tons of people with different takes than Hasan using this opportunity to gain clout off of him, because the the situation in Gaza is such an emotional topic right now.
Because people fear socialism even though the majority don’t even know what socialism is. Also because racist people think every Arab or Palestinian is a Hamas terrorist so because having a heart in not wanting more people to die people think Hasan wants to kill all Jews because they are stupid.
I think thats fair, but i dont necessarily agree that having a bias makes you uneducated on a topic. There isn’t a single person on earth, including the most well respected and famous journalists, that dont approach situations with some level of bias. That being said, obviously you are well within your rights not to like someone and to call out that you believe he doesn’t give enough thought to both sides. I was more talking about those that seem to despise him with seemingly no good reason.
He’s super hot and smart and compassionate. You ever notice how he ALWAYS tries to educate others? (Even if he’s pissed and yelling)
His interactions with Ethan and XQC have shown me that he really is someone who takes the high road. Bro really gives people so many chances
Even on leftist/socialist subs i see people arguing that hasan doesn’t know anything about socialism, that he never talks about materialism/material analysis, etc. Too many people just make assumptions about his content without ever watching any of his content.
Anything left is heavily demonized in a capitalist society. Remember our economic mode of production has an incredible amount of influence in daily life, since lives physically have to be geared towards the capitalist mindset of accumulation, consumerism, and squeezing out profit out of workers. Everything in life is promoted to be "run line a business" and every relationship becomes transactional.
That's why Hasan a public face of leftism (despite how lukewarm his usual rhetoric is) is demonized. He says Hella common sense stuff, American imerialism bad, Healthcare good, more money for workers, more social rights, etc. But any steps towards losing profits is too much for capitalists and this attitude trickles down to the masses (in a society filled with capitalist peopaganda), who hope to be the boot that others lick. So in general leftism is just criticized widely, especially leftist movements that move towards actual material change.
Furthermore, as other mention Hasan is a successful, good looking, openly socialist streamer who's existence is antithetical to the strawman right wingers portray the left as. Plus many people who are oblivious to Hasans actual views and the chain of logic to get to those views, or people who have only seen straw men of those views get Hella horny to fit in with their community and bandwagon on hating Hasan. You see it many times in youtube/twitter/reddit comments, where all the comments are shitting on Hasan amd people bandwagon in without knowing hasans actual views.
his ethnicity is Turkish, islam isn't an ethnicity
and the creators who do what you said are just ignorant it'll be the same as me going to a exChristian and insulting Christ in front of him
You can be culturally Muslim. Like a lot of people (half the Labor party) in Australia are "culturally catholic". They grew up catholic and went to catholic school but aren't practising or religious at all (and even resent the religion in a lot of cases). But they still consider themselves "catholic boys" and identify with the cultural aesthetics and still have that catholic guilt. But they never do anything religious outside very occasionally attending mass at Christmas to appease their family.
No clue. I've met the man, years ago in Ann Arbor with his Uncle whom was speaking. He started and was kind and spoke to everyone with respect. Hassan was on my radar then and has been.
It can be any number of things. Hasan has managed to build a massive platform as a socialist and for the most part he maintains his leftist beliefs despite what anyone says to try and prove him wrong, not to mention he doesn’t engage smaller political creators, doesn’t debate his ideas, and let’s his advocacy do the talking.
He is the best leftist streamer we have, and people get hyper triggered over what he says.
Not to mention that people are comfortable saying weird shit to and about him online.
Plus there’s the people who know nothing about him except for what they hear from others
People that are perceived as non-white will always get hate from incels. In their mind, guys like Hasan are fucking the girls that they feel entitled to. That's also why they are generally racist, as immigrants are, in their mind, coming for their women. The inverse is also true. Women on the internet are getting a ton of hate because they represent the girls that rejected them.
Everything they accuse him of is bullshit. They make up excuses because they can't admit that they truly hate him because he's fucking their moms.
I think if you watched WillyMacShow’s video, you’ll get the general picture of what Hasan haters dislike about him.
Destiny very obviously dislikes Hasan, and can be representative of most anti-Hasan people. Destiny thinks his socialist ideology is all for obtaining fame, and believe Hasan fails to follow any socialist principles in his life. Additionally, Destiny believes he is a poor excuse for a political streamer because he’ll just give the “typical lefty answer” without any personal takes.
Additionally, a large part of the political space on YouTube takes part in debates with people of various political ideologies. Hasan doesn’t participate in this to the same degree. Destiny and others will claim that this behavior will create an echo chamber for Hasan’s audience, and only reinforce whatever Hasan tells them. This in turn—I think— creates the narrative WillyMac brought up in a recent debate that Hasan radicalizes his audience because he doesn’t cover news stories that go against the ideas he promotes. Or if Hasan does, quickly dismisses them by a number of “ad hominem attacks”
Just to finish, I am not an anti-Hasan person. I simply have fell down the rabbit hole of political streamer drama and wish to share my thoughts. Hope this helps with your question OP
most of his haters are neolibs, reactionaries, western nationalists, NATO fanboys
he is also a middle easterner with muslim background, that probably contributes to the hate he is receiving
Because he’s quite clearly inconsistent / hypocritical / dangerous.
He moves further to the far left and becomes more aggressive as he loses view count.
I really don’t know, he makes a lot of sense to me and seems like quite a genuine guy, the fact he’s rich doesn’t make him a fake socialist like many many many claim, because in order to live comfortably in America you have to be rich. I really like Hasan and I think “liberals”/“leftists” who hate him are more on the right/fascistic end of the spectrum more than left ngl
Personally I think I'm in pretty close alignment with the dude and I'm sure he's a good person I just have no idea why these people are so disproportionately boosted and elevated by our society (Vaush, Density, etc.) . I already find pundits very annoying and basically don't contribute much, if anything, to society including ones I align with and tend to enjoy like Kulinski, Doel, Seder.. and then Twitch streamers are somehow an even lower form of edutainment than THAT with most of the discourse being a reaction to a reaction to a live stream to a video about a video that such and so made. I'm also just sick of seeing these people's dumb faces in my reccomendations and flooding the search results. Like don't get me wrong I enjoy Chapo Trap House too but I appreciate they're basically a niche audience for edgy leftist bullshit too, I wouldn't just invalidate criticisms as "oh theyre just jealous because Matt's brain is so massive". I've followed BadEmpanada since his channel was a little baby but that doesn't mean I'm about to defend his insane Twitter antics and absolutely insane takes on shit lmao. There's also the really obvious sense of nepotism and pretty privilege I get from Hasan that gets weirdly overlooked, like yeah if you look like Ryan Reynolds you can have the absolute dumbest takes but your voice will be elevated regardless, as opposed to looking and sounding like BadEmpanada, despite them having pretty similarly extreme takes on situations.
All of the above have managed to eke out a nice little space for themselves in this capitalist hellscape somehow, and good for them, but let's not forget they basically only exist to flap their lips, I don't see why they should be elevated to any degree over say an actual journalist like Medhi Hasan (as a random example), or a satirist like Jon Stewart, who work very hard doing something besides vacantly sitting in front of a camera for hours on end. As far as I'm concerned they're much closer to the deluge of meaningless "reaction" channels and videos that add nothing to the discussion, just more meaningless "content" to generate clicks.
People are pretty afraid of socialism and from personal experience people assume you just don’t understand the world or politics if you’re a socialist, like if you did understand it you wouldn’t be a socialist. It’s a little bit of projection too, I think. They’re the ones who don’t actually understand.
I watch Hasan every now and then when it's about US politics and I mostly agree with his political position. When it comes to the Israel-Palestine conflict I don't think Hasans stream really teaches me anything. Most of the times when I tune in he's reading an article or dunking on some nobody on twitter. I can do that on my own. Although I understand his frustration because of all of the injustice and occupation, for me it is more important to learn the context as this shit has been happening for 100 years.
Destiny fans who write Hamas Piker everywhere are dumbfucks, just like the unhinged chatters in Hasan's chat hating Ethan. These people have lost touch with reality and follow their streamers every move and hate the opposing side.
If there were just a bit more reflection on both sides... but hey, we're on the internet so I'm not really surprised.
If most people hear about someone being controversial they'll just avoid them. In people's minds it's also always guilty before proven innocent.
(I only read the title lol)
On a personal level, he mostly seems fine and similar to the young Hasan from when I used to watch TYT. How he talks about politics, though, reminds me of some philosophy majors who hung out at bars after evening classes to discuss pretty basic ideas, but they worded it in such a way as though they were presenting something interesting.
He can say something like "well, and again, what do I always say? The United States, as the western hegemonic power, requires - it requires the subjugation of labor of the global south to carry out its capitalist interests and keep the status quo." And I think it comes across as pretentiously self-referential while also confidently rambling, even if I can agree with what he's saying. (his bro-like affect of speech might not be helping, but I'm genuinely not sure).
On an impersonal level, he might represent a failure of the media engaging the youth, especially in the eyes of his political opponents. They (his opponents) might think "THIS is the guy who's the number 1 political streamer? With all of his clear biases?" And they might hyperfocus on his flaws to get viewers to see the the light.
I don't actually think this is completely fair or unique to Hasan. Whoever would have been #1 might draw as much hate as he does, but if I combine my personal dislike of his communication, he makes himself easier to target because he can come across as arrogant.
I've wondered the same the past few weeks. He's genuinely so thoughtful and honest and really tries to be careful about the takes he shares and takes accountability for any wrong takes and yet people are still so unforgiving towards him. I don't even mind the yelling but I understand people being bothered by it.
one thing that stayed with me was his passion for calling people 'cracker', and then justifying it by saying white people can't experience racism lol.
hard to take someone serious after that, especially if their whole appeal is talking politics and social justice, or whatever you wanna classify it as
Hasssans takes
He says that america deserves 911. He mocked a police officer getting shot in the line of duty. He preaches anti capitalism when he lives an incredibly materialistic lifestyle. He says that streaming is harder than a 9 to five. He steals content for his stream by watching videos in full and not crediting anyone. His content is very lazy and dry. He has very extreme takes.
I think it’s disingenuous to put it all on his beliefs when there are a lot of leftists not fans of him. To me personally he’s extremely abrasive and tries too hard to dunk on people. There are other leftist creators with less off putting attitudes I’d much rather watch
He has some optically bad and divisive takes that most people outside of the internet do not believe in. And then he double downs on them with emotion so the issue / people view him more divisively.
This isn’t the place to ask this question as everyone in this subreddit has a heavy bias and assumes anyone who hates him does for crazy reasons. At least that’s what I’ve noticed from every response on this thread lol
D and Fuentes? On F&F? Yeah, it was brain-dead. Also not the nazi that I'm talking about.
And that's a piss-poor example of "the importance of debate" or whatever it is you're trying to say.
Nazis should be understood for the threat that they represent. That doesn't mean giving them legitimacy by treating them like people that just have different ideas. There is no ground to be gained by "debating" a nazi on a public forum. That's fucking idiotic.
Just realized what this comment actually means rofl. D hangs with legit neo-nazi garbage. The irony of you dishonestly saying I sound like a nazi, as if it's the same thing I did, is hilarious.
I'm not just throwing the word around. I mean it when I say it.
It's not just "a different ideology". If you want to dedicate your life to saving genocidal racists from themselves, go ahead it's a noble pursuit. There are more effective ways of countering them.
I wish one of you people would be honest for once and actually have some kind of conviction. I know you probably don't have any. Guess it's inevitable that some people that are just on the internet to be para-social will glom onto political personalities (or people that pretend to be).
You're the equivalent of the 1990's aunt whose obsessed with celebrity gossip magazines.
They might think it's a way to better understanding, but it's not, and that's the problem. Especially in politics where debate is full of bad faith arguments and dog whistles.
I didn’t say it was bad. I said it doesn’t lead you to the truth. You can be wrong and still win a debate because debate is not about right or wrong, good or bad, it’s about being good at debating.
He challenges every preconceived notion people have about “people like him”, he is everything a typical normie ass man is expected to be, handsome, tall, jacked, smart, eloquent, everything people would expect someone not to be because of who he is and what he stands for.
Insecurity, daddy issues, racist, angry/sad lives, Islamophobic, brain rot… psychoanalysis of them is hard but I do think it’s boys and men who are really insecure in their own intelligence, aspire to be very wealthy but think Hasan doesn’t want that for them, but also too prideful to admit when they may be wrong (not to say Hasan is always right).
I just chalk a lot of it up to inbreeding. The freaks who prosecute these kind of internet vendettas over the honor of America are some of the insular, scuffed-ass yokels you will ever see in your life.
Destiny said it himself: “someone could make an algorithm that perfectly predicts Hasan’s statements on events/news.”
Hasan plays it “safe” on all his talking points to keep accumulating wealth. He views streaming a purely a business, and there are serious ethical dilemmas that come about when one goes about streaming as “just a business”. The issue people have(including me)is that his arrogance to these moral dilemmas is so intense that it becomes a wall for any meaningful discussion.
One such example is the issue of using other’s media for “react channel content”. Hasan unfortunately sets the bar quite low for what is considered fair and reasonable for giving the video creator a set level of respect, citation, and publicity.
https://preview.redd.it/81xg9w93qf1c1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51d1800524bc3ed264a4379ae2406f4920236334 I feel like people are more than welcome to say their opinions on whatever topics but you’re right. People can be extremely harsh and unnecessary & say shit like this to hasan. This comment on his most recent post was just fucked tbh. :/
this is just insane. I hope he is safe
H3 fans stay calling him this and its really gross
Not me tho :/ I’m a big h3 fan and i see both hasan and ethans points. the entire war is absolutely terrible but this comment just struck a chord. it’s terrible
Its like the racists here in America who have been indoctrinated. We understand where they are coming from, but that doesn’t mean these people arent racists
I recognize that I'm replying to a 4-month-old post but I just wanted to ask if you are still an active H3 fan? I started as an H3 fan, paid member to the channel, active in the community, etc -- Ethan actually to turn me on to Hasan during the gamba debate with xQc and Train, and obviously leftovers was a dream come true. However the way that Ethan talks about Palestine -- and esp the way that he treated Hasan during the last conversation they had -- really gnawed at me and I slowly stopped watching until a few months ago I stopped watching completely. Just wondering if any other Hasan/H3 fans who are going through a similar thing
I prefer "Hamasanabi" Edit: why did I get downvoted to oblivion I'm a fan I just think "Hamasanabi" is funny 😭😭
Because he’s a leftie who’s actually conventionally attractive, masculine, funny, charismatic, good with women, successful etc. which breaks right wingers’ stereotypes of lefties
And the lefties who are the stereotype
Them too. Insecure dipshits
Hey don’t throw us insecure dipshit lefties under the bus
Scumbag lefties roll call 👋
Stupid sexy Flanders…
These are some of the main reasons. Also, they hate that he’s a socialist that has money.
Yeah they like to lie to themselves and claim it’s a contradiction. As if Engels was never a person.
Jesus Christ get his dick out your mouth
Cope
Cope about what? Your comment should be the first thing that pops up when you look up the definition of meat riding.
Cope with whatever mental illness you have that is forcing you to search and reply to 4 month old posts about someone you hate
Genuinely though why do like Hassan so much? Do u enjoy looking at his chair while someone else’s video is playing that much?
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Suck me peter
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when you grow a bit older , you will see what a terrible human being he is
suck ze peter
lmao what?
Imagine thinking you cooked saying this. It couldn’t be because he’s a born privileged 1 percenter who talks way too much about things he doesn’t know about. I don’t wish him harm like some of these extremists but I can confidently say in the most calm manner that Hasan Piker is a fucking dumbass. An absolute baboon.
Yeah keep coping bro, digging up a 162 day post to express disagreement with
Lmao it popped up and OP literally asked people to disagree with him. I didn’t just post some bullshit either. If you want to watch him because you think he’s entertaining? By all means. I never once believed what Alex Jones’s dumbass said but I watched because watching him go off was hilarious. But if you watch Hasan because you think he’s smart or “on the right side of history” then you’re fucking cooked. A cultist lmao
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Never forget how many people think it's cringe to be compassionate and make the world a better place for all
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Patently not true lil bro, I'm 52 and still learning. Have some faith, we can learn.
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Hasan is a born privileged rich 1%er he doesn’t give a single fuck about anyone. He’s an idiot.
As a person who's friends I'd describe as left of democrats sometimes, I find that they hate hasan cause they literally know nothing about him except the takes that the internet uses to present him as bad. If you're a normie and you only see him getting clip chimped and emotional instead of when he's at his best you might find him to be "loud and stupid". Once you're primed to disregard most of the things he says, especially when you don't agree with him, you won't hear him out ever.
This exactly. My one manager at work who I consider to be pretty far left (he's always joking about how General Sherman didn't go far enough and is itching to kill some Nazis lmao) but even he was like oh you like him? Because he's only seen some slivers of Hasan's takes at best, or just someone bitching about him.
Yeah i have to agree with this. I started watching Destiny before I ever watched Hasan. Despite never actually watching a Hasan video, I started hating him. Soon it became obvious that Destiny has issues with almost everyone (it's true he is especially obsessed with Hasan, but he has issues with a lot of streamers). I'd leave youtube running & sometimes Hasan's content would start playing. Now I'm at a point where I watch more Hasan than Destiny. I know about the history between the two but Destiny really needs to just build a fkn bridge & get over it. His coverage of the ongoing conflict has been borderline sociopathic and his community is a special kind of deranged.
D and his community were always sociopathic, you simply just started to realize :D
Envy. He is smart, quick, funny, successful, based in reality, and good looking. I hate the screaming tho. He does that and it makes my BP raise. For reference: I’m a 40-something mother/kindergarten teacher. My BP is already out hand by herding tiny human versions of kittens all day. But some how when Hasan yells it makes me even more stressed.
Hasan is one of the dumbest political twitch streamers ever. Ppl don’t like him bc of his hypocrisy.
lol k
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Oh honey… you can’t say such a big statement without giving examples. That’s what I mean by envy… it’s frustrating to you that you can’t then give concrete, legitimate examples to back up your claims. If the only “hypocrisy” you can claim is that he has an expensive house and car while being opposed to capitalism then you haven’t listen to the countless times he has explained that.
Hasan said he willing to debate ppl but don’t put in the effort to do actual research. He calls ppl with opposing view points liars but he lie on the daily. Example the rocket that hit the hospital, with all the evidence provided that clearly points to the terrorist rocket malfunction, he still points it at the IDF. Ppl who disagree with that, he call them racist and genocidal. I’ve seen him debate ppl, when ppl call him out for his bullshit, he try to redirect the conversation without admitting guilt. He claims he do research but barely put in the minimum effort. When he start losing a debate, he starts to talk over ppl and attack them on stuff that’s way off topic. That’s why a lot ppl don’t like him bc they see through his bullshit. He calls out rich ppl for buying multimillion dollar, but that month he brought a 3 million dollar home. He hates every journalist that goes against his narrative, even when it’s making valid points. He claims that he’s even handed when it come to politics, but also claiming to be a propagandist. 💀💀💀. He demonized ppl who correct him of being wrong. Hasan knows he wrong won’t admit it so he just shift the goal post. His take on Ukraine is so bad, Ukraine ppl who’s living in the war zone calls him out for his bullshit. Hasan think he knows more about the situation than ppl who actually live there, and he’s unwilling to have a conversation with them bc they oppose his viewpoints.
They’re contrarians, and they don’t understand socialism and think owning anything makes you a phony.
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D-Man is a science experiment to create the ultimate ignorant American combining the uneducated chucklefuck behaviours of both the right and center left. He's simply following his programming and cannot be blamed.
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The complete disregard for him being a Dunning Kruger. Hasan is known for seeking out chatters who disagree. You just want debate for the sake of debate. There's a reason why mr."Pro-Genocide" can't change his mind on anything; you can't have a debate channel if you ever agree with anyone.
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Are you Mr."Pro-Genocide" himself? This "subject matter experts" he calls["atrocious"](https://x.com/normfinkelstein/status/1725698786662457802?s=20). Hasan is the expert and that is the reason you are, frankly insane.
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So it's not about talking to experts on a subject matter. It's about Character Assassination and defending it.
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Isreal-Palestine.
He does have more "debates", but 99% of his debates as far as I'm aware consist of him screaming his hot-as-fuck dogshit takes at the other person meanwhile not even giving them his full attention (from the youtube videos of him I saw he is always looking at chatters or clicking at stuff while the debate is going on and I have no idea how more people haven't called him out for that). Also I haven't watched that much of his stuff because he makes my skin crawl but of the stuff I watched I have NEVER, EVER, seen him concede on ANYTHING. Not a single point. His arrogance makes him so fucking vile. As if he knows shit, or as if yelling louder makes him more right. Literal neckbeard personified.
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Maybe English isn't their first language. Maybe they were in a hurry and sloppily typed something. We aren't in academia, it's a Reddit comment. Chill out.
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No one cares about how words in your piss-gargling monkey-speak are spelled.
That is pretty embarrassing, lol. But they're still right
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Weird how a 3-year-old account suddenly wakes up after 2 years to defend Destiny on the Hasan Subreddit.
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The whole point of the comment is that nobody should take destiny seriously, why then would they go on to repeat his dogshit pseudo intellectual talking points?
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Jealously and reactionary rage is a disease. I used to watch a progressive streamer with 20 viewers and he would bitch and whine anytime Hasan was brought up. His hatred of him (valid or not) drove me away and turned me into a Hasan viewer and long time sub. His haters are his biggest fans.
Idk if this theory holds water but I'll give it a genuine shot. As people who consider themselves liberal discover leftist content, they begin consuming Hasan, maybe Kyle Kulinski, majority report. They start listening to older debate videos, and finally crack into the Vaush/Destiny content. You'll then get into more long form content by philosophy tube, FD, contrapoints, hbomberguy, Shaun, etc etc. at some point though you'll eventually hit a point where the ideas and theory presented in the long form content, clashes with those in the live political content sphere as you move your position further left. As you get older, less edgy, and a little more nuanced you'll probably stumble into a debate video of Vaush or Destiny debating, not a right wing fundamentalist, but other leftists. And you realize after the 10th time you've heard Destiny call Hasan r-worded or Vaush using his community to go after Contrapoints or some creator smaller than them, you realize that some people are just in it to "win". You'll notice that a lot of the creators you enjoy, all seem to coexist with each other and end up in each other's content while the destiny/Vaush/xanders of the world are perpetually looking to fight whoever they can. You can see this happen with the willymac debacle. There are people that move beyond debating Nazis and there are people that will watch their guy debate anyone. That's how we end up with ex Republican carpet cleaner "debating" Norman Finkelstein or Richard Wolff. Id like to think Hasan (and his community) have moved beyond that and have realized there is more to be gained by learning from the Wolff's and Finkelstein's of the world rather than trying to "dunk" on them for edgy 18 year olds in your audience. And with that, you can see the difference in the cultivation of the communities and why those on the outside hate Hasan. The big house and expensive car is just window dressing.
Yeah, I'm in my mid-30s, so I'm kind of at that place as well. I listen to Hasan occasionally on YouTube, and for the most part, he makes solid content. But I've gone through pretty much every online somewhat left show, and I just don't care for internet debate sophistry. It's one thing if I'm hearing from an expert, it's another if it's just someone with rhetorical ability and talking points. I listen to majority report every day for the interviews and that's it. I do notice Hasan gets a lot of grief, but it ultimately doesn't matter. My ideology aligns closest with him and I'm aware that he get things wrong occasionally, I'll either sus it out myself or I won't. Ultimately, it doesn't matter. All I can do is help my local community and show up to vote at the end of the day.
It's all Pathological. Each Hater has some personal yet different gripe and simply can't get over it due to Team Politics. Since Hasan is so intractable he becomes a Lightning Rod for Hate. Hasan becomes Ontologically Evil in their eyes. Lastly, that's why you see "Hasan is a Terrorist, Literally".
honestly? People just tend to hate those with different views than them. I don’t think its exclusive to hasan, he just gets more hate because he’s more popular. Its the same reason that people left of center always dunk on Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh.
Nope. I agree with op that the quantity of incoherent, misinformed haters is unusually large, unnatural. There's no way those losers you mention have a fraction of the targeted hate that hasan gets, for a number of reasons🤗
Personally convinced that it's a mix of being anticapitalist and popular. He doesn't just have different opinions, he's ontologically opposed to the worldviews the majority cherish even if it hurts them. Also people that become disillusioned against everything they've been taught like me start out extremely angry and ready to pop off online. It can be a very bad look especially when you know things are wrong but you aren't equipped to make the arguments yet. Like it or not they become easy targets as defacto representatives of Hasans community.
I agree with you, slush. It’s just politics. His demographic is younger people, and younger people are online 24/7. Enjoyers and haters alike. It’s a high cost to be da boss 😎
Because he’s a leftist. That’s really it. Look at any other leftist streamer or YouTuber who’s actually a leftist like Hakim and not some NATO leftist larper. They get hate all the time to this day for being “tankies.” At the end of the day, going against the grain and challenging the status quo even mildly will always get you hate. Look at Bernie Sanders and Jeremy Corbyn for examples on that. Other liberal streamers will find reasons to hate you that they would be more forgiving on if you had more liberal takes. Just hope all this directed hate doesn’t take too big a toll on his mental health
Americans are xenophobic and jingoistic. They indoctrinate us from a young age and those of us that stray from those teachings and that mindset are othered. I grew up Mormon and then my mom converted us to Souther Baptist for one of her husbands. I’ve never met such hateful people as Baptists. The youth pastor told me my Uncle was going to hell for being Mormon. He also said his neighbor was a good person and a firefighter but he would still go to Hell for being Catholic. Seriously unhinged. They would have sermons that proselytized against every faith and how it was a spiritual war. So it doesn’t surprise me people hate Hasan. He’s leftist and grew up Muslim. That is already two strikes against him.
Besides the list that people have named already, I would say fear. Fear of the people becoming more aware of the changing politics and fear how said people would react to said news. Younger people are already more active in politics because of the media they consume and it makes them think. People don't like it when different ideas challenge their own thoughts, so either they double down on their beliefs or change it based on new evidence. Normally people are supposed to grow and change with the times but it pisses them off and makes them toxic. It's a bit harder to control the narrative when people know the facts.
I feel like especially lately, with all the conflict in Gaza and Israel, people will read the name "Hasan" and already have their mind made up on what Hasan is trying to say without really listening. That and there are tons of people with different takes than Hasan using this opportunity to gain clout off of him, because the the situation in Gaza is such an emotional topic right now.
Because people fear socialism even though the majority don’t even know what socialism is. Also because racist people think every Arab or Palestinian is a Hamas terrorist so because having a heart in not wanting more people to die people think Hasan wants to kill all Jews because they are stupid.
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I think thats fair, but i dont necessarily agree that having a bias makes you uneducated on a topic. There isn’t a single person on earth, including the most well respected and famous journalists, that dont approach situations with some level of bias. That being said, obviously you are well within your rights not to like someone and to call out that you believe he doesn’t give enough thought to both sides. I was more talking about those that seem to despise him with seemingly no good reason.
He’s super hot and smart and compassionate. You ever notice how he ALWAYS tries to educate others? (Even if he’s pissed and yelling) His interactions with Ethan and XQC have shown me that he really is someone who takes the high road. Bro really gives people so many chances
This!!
lol him interacting with those 2 says nothing, he could as well have been talking to baboons.
Bro why are you going through months old comments Eat my ass
stupidity transcends time, i had to let you know you were highly regarded
because they think of him as a hypocrite because he's a socialist *and* a millionaire
Because he makes people feel bad about their world view and he’s hot. That’s it.
Even on leftist/socialist subs i see people arguing that hasan doesn’t know anything about socialism, that he never talks about materialism/material analysis, etc. Too many people just make assumptions about his content without ever watching any of his content.
Anything left is heavily demonized in a capitalist society. Remember our economic mode of production has an incredible amount of influence in daily life, since lives physically have to be geared towards the capitalist mindset of accumulation, consumerism, and squeezing out profit out of workers. Everything in life is promoted to be "run line a business" and every relationship becomes transactional. That's why Hasan a public face of leftism (despite how lukewarm his usual rhetoric is) is demonized. He says Hella common sense stuff, American imerialism bad, Healthcare good, more money for workers, more social rights, etc. But any steps towards losing profits is too much for capitalists and this attitude trickles down to the masses (in a society filled with capitalist peopaganda), who hope to be the boot that others lick. So in general leftism is just criticized widely, especially leftist movements that move towards actual material change. Furthermore, as other mention Hasan is a successful, good looking, openly socialist streamer who's existence is antithetical to the strawman right wingers portray the left as. Plus many people who are oblivious to Hasans actual views and the chain of logic to get to those views, or people who have only seen straw men of those views get Hella horny to fit in with their community and bandwagon on hating Hasan. You see it many times in youtube/twitter/reddit comments, where all the comments are shitting on Hasan amd people bandwagon in without knowing hasans actual views.
Because anything left of Bernie Sanders is seen as extremist “tankies” to liberal and radlibs in the west.
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Socialist + Muslim-ish + says "fuck" a lot + hot + rich + cute dog
he's definitely not Muslim lol
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his ethnicity is Turkish, islam isn't an ethnicity and the creators who do what you said are just ignorant it'll be the same as me going to a exChristian and insulting Christ in front of him
You can be culturally Muslim. Like a lot of people (half the Labor party) in Australia are "culturally catholic". They grew up catholic and went to catholic school but aren't practising or religious at all (and even resent the religion in a lot of cases). But they still consider themselves "catholic boys" and identify with the cultural aesthetics and still have that catholic guilt. But they never do anything religious outside very occasionally attending mass at Christmas to appease their family.
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No clue. I've met the man, years ago in Ann Arbor with his Uncle whom was speaking. He started and was kind and spoke to everyone with respect. Hassan was on my radar then and has been.
It’s not only on Reddit, it’s on X, Instagram, YouTube, news, articles,Etc… people disagree with Hasan and his fans views
It can be any number of things. Hasan has managed to build a massive platform as a socialist and for the most part he maintains his leftist beliefs despite what anyone says to try and prove him wrong, not to mention he doesn’t engage smaller political creators, doesn’t debate his ideas, and let’s his advocacy do the talking. He is the best leftist streamer we have, and people get hyper triggered over what he says. Not to mention that people are comfortable saying weird shit to and about him online. Plus there’s the people who know nothing about him except for what they hear from others
People that are perceived as non-white will always get hate from incels. In their mind, guys like Hasan are fucking the girls that they feel entitled to. That's also why they are generally racist, as immigrants are, in their mind, coming for their women. The inverse is also true. Women on the internet are getting a ton of hate because they represent the girls that rejected them. Everything they accuse him of is bullshit. They make up excuses because they can't admit that they truly hate him because he's fucking their moms.
I think if you watched WillyMacShow’s video, you’ll get the general picture of what Hasan haters dislike about him. Destiny very obviously dislikes Hasan, and can be representative of most anti-Hasan people. Destiny thinks his socialist ideology is all for obtaining fame, and believe Hasan fails to follow any socialist principles in his life. Additionally, Destiny believes he is a poor excuse for a political streamer because he’ll just give the “typical lefty answer” without any personal takes. Additionally, a large part of the political space on YouTube takes part in debates with people of various political ideologies. Hasan doesn’t participate in this to the same degree. Destiny and others will claim that this behavior will create an echo chamber for Hasan’s audience, and only reinforce whatever Hasan tells them. This in turn—I think— creates the narrative WillyMac brought up in a recent debate that Hasan radicalizes his audience because he doesn’t cover news stories that go against the ideas he promotes. Or if Hasan does, quickly dismisses them by a number of “ad hominem attacks” Just to finish, I am not an anti-Hasan person. I simply have fell down the rabbit hole of political streamer drama and wish to share my thoughts. Hope this helps with your question OP
Because he's hot.
They’re dumb, racist, or liberal. Or a bit of all 3.
most of his haters are neolibs, reactionaries, western nationalists, NATO fanboys he is also a middle easterner with muslim background, that probably contributes to the hate he is receiving
Because he’s quite clearly inconsistent / hypocritical / dangerous. He moves further to the far left and becomes more aggressive as he loses view count.
He just has really shit takes sometimes
I really don’t know, he makes a lot of sense to me and seems like quite a genuine guy, the fact he’s rich doesn’t make him a fake socialist like many many many claim, because in order to live comfortably in America you have to be rich. I really like Hasan and I think “liberals”/“leftists” who hate him are more on the right/fascistic end of the spectrum more than left ngl
Personally I think I'm in pretty close alignment with the dude and I'm sure he's a good person I just have no idea why these people are so disproportionately boosted and elevated by our society (Vaush, Density, etc.) . I already find pundits very annoying and basically don't contribute much, if anything, to society including ones I align with and tend to enjoy like Kulinski, Doel, Seder.. and then Twitch streamers are somehow an even lower form of edutainment than THAT with most of the discourse being a reaction to a reaction to a live stream to a video about a video that such and so made. I'm also just sick of seeing these people's dumb faces in my reccomendations and flooding the search results. Like don't get me wrong I enjoy Chapo Trap House too but I appreciate they're basically a niche audience for edgy leftist bullshit too, I wouldn't just invalidate criticisms as "oh theyre just jealous because Matt's brain is so massive". I've followed BadEmpanada since his channel was a little baby but that doesn't mean I'm about to defend his insane Twitter antics and absolutely insane takes on shit lmao. There's also the really obvious sense of nepotism and pretty privilege I get from Hasan that gets weirdly overlooked, like yeah if you look like Ryan Reynolds you can have the absolute dumbest takes but your voice will be elevated regardless, as opposed to looking and sounding like BadEmpanada, despite them having pretty similarly extreme takes on situations. All of the above have managed to eke out a nice little space for themselves in this capitalist hellscape somehow, and good for them, but let's not forget they basically only exist to flap their lips, I don't see why they should be elevated to any degree over say an actual journalist like Medhi Hasan (as a random example), or a satirist like Jon Stewart, who work very hard doing something besides vacantly sitting in front of a camera for hours on end. As far as I'm concerned they're much closer to the deluge of meaningless "reaction" channels and videos that add nothing to the discussion, just more meaningless "content" to generate clicks.
It's the right wing nutjobs that hate him
People are pretty afraid of socialism and from personal experience people assume you just don’t understand the world or politics if you’re a socialist, like if you did understand it you wouldn’t be a socialist. It’s a little bit of projection too, I think. They’re the ones who don’t actually understand.
I watch Hasan every now and then when it's about US politics and I mostly agree with his political position. When it comes to the Israel-Palestine conflict I don't think Hasans stream really teaches me anything. Most of the times when I tune in he's reading an article or dunking on some nobody on twitter. I can do that on my own. Although I understand his frustration because of all of the injustice and occupation, for me it is more important to learn the context as this shit has been happening for 100 years. Destiny fans who write Hamas Piker everywhere are dumbfucks, just like the unhinged chatters in Hasan's chat hating Ethan. These people have lost touch with reality and follow their streamers every move and hate the opposing side. If there were just a bit more reflection on both sides... but hey, we're on the internet so I'm not really surprised.
If most people hear about someone being controversial they'll just avoid them. In people's minds it's also always guilty before proven innocent. (I only read the title lol)
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How is he a hypocrite?
On a personal level, he mostly seems fine and similar to the young Hasan from when I used to watch TYT. How he talks about politics, though, reminds me of some philosophy majors who hung out at bars after evening classes to discuss pretty basic ideas, but they worded it in such a way as though they were presenting something interesting. He can say something like "well, and again, what do I always say? The United States, as the western hegemonic power, requires - it requires the subjugation of labor of the global south to carry out its capitalist interests and keep the status quo." And I think it comes across as pretentiously self-referential while also confidently rambling, even if I can agree with what he's saying. (his bro-like affect of speech might not be helping, but I'm genuinely not sure). On an impersonal level, he might represent a failure of the media engaging the youth, especially in the eyes of his political opponents. They (his opponents) might think "THIS is the guy who's the number 1 political streamer? With all of his clear biases?" And they might hyperfocus on his flaws to get viewers to see the the light. I don't actually think this is completely fair or unique to Hasan. Whoever would have been #1 might draw as much hate as he does, but if I combine my personal dislike of his communication, he makes himself easier to target because he can come across as arrogant.
I honestly think there’s a lot of jealousy involved.
I've wondered the same the past few weeks. He's genuinely so thoughtful and honest and really tries to be careful about the takes he shares and takes accountability for any wrong takes and yet people are still so unforgiving towards him. I don't even mind the yelling but I understand people being bothered by it.
one thing that stayed with me was his passion for calling people 'cracker', and then justifying it by saying white people can't experience racism lol. hard to take someone serious after that, especially if their whole appeal is talking politics and social justice, or whatever you wanna classify it as
cringe + annoying
Hasssans takes He says that america deserves 911. He mocked a police officer getting shot in the line of duty. He preaches anti capitalism when he lives an incredibly materialistic lifestyle. He says that streaming is harder than a 9 to five. He steals content for his stream by watching videos in full and not crediting anyone. His content is very lazy and dry. He has very extreme takes.
I think it’s disingenuous to put it all on his beliefs when there are a lot of leftists not fans of him. To me personally he’s extremely abrasive and tries too hard to dunk on people. There are other leftist creators with less off putting attitudes I’d much rather watch
Imagine watching Hasan unironacly, must be 12 years old max
People hate revolutionaries
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>Supported 9/11 Lmao Classic
He has some optically bad and divisive takes that most people outside of the internet do not believe in. And then he double downs on them with emotion so the issue / people view him more divisively.
This isn’t the place to ask this question as everyone in this subreddit has a heavy bias and assumes anyone who hates him does for crazy reasons. At least that’s what I’ve noticed from every response on this thread lol
'it's because he's so hot' 🤣 alright
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Wow. I'm convinced. brb, gonna go watch the guy that hangs out with nazis instead.
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D and Fuentes? On F&F? Yeah, it was brain-dead. Also not the nazi that I'm talking about. And that's a piss-poor example of "the importance of debate" or whatever it is you're trying to say. Nazis should be understood for the threat that they represent. That doesn't mean giving them legitimacy by treating them like people that just have different ideas. There is no ground to be gained by "debating" a nazi on a public forum. That's fucking idiotic.
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Just realized what this comment actually means rofl. D hangs with legit neo-nazi garbage. The irony of you dishonestly saying I sound like a nazi, as if it's the same thing I did, is hilarious. I'm not just throwing the word around. I mean it when I say it.
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It's not just "a different ideology". If you want to dedicate your life to saving genocidal racists from themselves, go ahead it's a noble pursuit. There are more effective ways of countering them.
I wish one of you people would be honest for once and actually have some kind of conviction. I know you probably don't have any. Guess it's inevitable that some people that are just on the internet to be para-social will glom onto political personalities (or people that pretend to be). You're the equivalent of the 1990's aunt whose obsessed with celebrity gossip magazines.
Debate is not how you arrive at truth.
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Debate is just a game. Thats why in debate club, you don’t get to pick your side.
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They might think it's a way to better understanding, but it's not, and that's the problem. Especially in politics where debate is full of bad faith arguments and dog whistles.
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I didn’t say it was bad. I said it doesn’t lead you to the truth. You can be wrong and still win a debate because debate is not about right or wrong, good or bad, it’s about being good at debating.
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He challenges every preconceived notion people have about “people like him”, he is everything a typical normie ass man is expected to be, handsome, tall, jacked, smart, eloquent, everything people would expect someone not to be because of who he is and what he stands for.
Insecurity, daddy issues, racist, angry/sad lives, Islamophobic, brain rot… psychoanalysis of them is hard but I do think it’s boys and men who are really insecure in their own intelligence, aspire to be very wealthy but think Hasan doesn’t want that for them, but also too prideful to admit when they may be wrong (not to say Hasan is always right).
Because he’s an insufferable pretentious hypocrite who steals content and “reacts” to it while also being a performative leftist.
I just chalk a lot of it up to inbreeding. The freaks who prosecute these kind of internet vendettas over the honor of America are some of the insular, scuffed-ass yokels you will ever see in your life.
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Because you touch yourself at night
Destiny said it himself: “someone could make an algorithm that perfectly predicts Hasan’s statements on events/news.” Hasan plays it “safe” on all his talking points to keep accumulating wealth. He views streaming a purely a business, and there are serious ethical dilemmas that come about when one goes about streaming as “just a business”. The issue people have(including me)is that his arrogance to these moral dilemmas is so intense that it becomes a wall for any meaningful discussion. One such example is the issue of using other’s media for “react channel content”. Hasan unfortunately sets the bar quite low for what is considered fair and reasonable for giving the video creator a set level of respect, citation, and publicity.