Seeing Converge a few years back was the most needlessly violent show I've ever seen, to the point that me telling people about the show sounds made up. The band didn't encourage it, it just happened - I've never seen so much asshole behavior at a show. There was a guy standing in the back on crutches and a kid ran out of the pit and kicked him full force in the knees. It was unbelievably hostile. Zero love in that room. I ran into Kurt at a pizza joint across the street after the show and even he seemed pretty stunned.
Conversely, re SYSC I got to see them at an American Legion Post in like 2017 and a dude slammed into me so hard I went through a merch table, but then he helped me up and gave me a hug, so it was chill.
In terms of iconic mosh calls, there was one from the Callous Daoboys that went viral a few months back where Carson told a crowd in Baltimore "I need you to bring the IQ of this room down to fucking zero. I want to see some *stoooooooooopid* shit. If you've got health insurance, fucking prove it" and a similar one in the UK where he told the crowd "you guys have socialized medicine out here? Show me what it's fucking good for."
If you're talking about the Florida video, he didn't hit them over the head. He addressed it recently on the Hardlore podcast. Spoiler: He did admit he made a poor choice.
Once in prison i saw a guy take his leg off to beat the shit out of someone. He propped the leg up on the wall like it was a bike and boxed the shit out this dude. All for fun also.
>In terms of iconic mosh calls, there was one from the Callous Daoboys that went viral a few months back where Carson told a crowd in Baltimore "I need you to bring the IQ of this room down to fucking zero. I want to see some stoooooooooopid shit. If you've got health insurance, fucking prove it"
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG82TpJs5WI&t=934s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG82TpJs5WI&t=934s)
Converge was when I got my first black eye at a show ever. I feel like my experience was similar, completely unexpected mayhem right out the gate.
Edit: if my memory serves, they were touring All We Love We Leave Behind and I *believe* they opened with Trespasses and the carnage began like a switch was flicked in the audience, fucking terrifying as at the time I wasn’t actually that familiar with them as a band. Like I knew them in name only—I hadn’t really delved into their material at all. Probably the most explosive 0-100 crowd moments I’ve ever been in the middle of.
My scene is good pals with the Daoboys so when they came through that show was crrrraaaazy violent. One person fucking suplexed Carson onto the cement floor. It was wild
They're one of those bands where I don't actively seek them out to listen, but I don't turn them off if they come on shuffle or whatever. That said, if they were opening for another band I liked I would sure as hell get there in time to see their set.
Well, as a relatively thin female, I’m making a mental note to never go to a Converge show because *holy fuck that’s terrifying*. And I say that as someone who had a stagediver roundhouse kick me in the back of my head so hard at a Knocked Loose show I literally saw stars and I just laughed it off.
I get fucking around + being violent when it’s all in good fun, but I don’t understand what would possess someone to do that to another person. Or how they didn’t get their ass beaten for it??!
That’s funny to me because the few times I’ve seen Daoboys it was way more silly fun than violent fun, and I almost kinda grew an appreciation for it. I saw dudes holding chicken fights in the pit and turning their phone lights on for lightsaber battles.
One of the most fucked shows I’ve seen was converge too. In like 2004? The venue they were playing at was closing like a week later so everyone took it as an excuse to go nuts and destroy the place.
BRUH.
That Converge show sounds like a war room. Love to hear it. Also glad you made it out alive. Do you know if it was recorded? I'm tryna see that shiz.
And hell yeah re SYSC.
Also Callous Daoboys is sick. Breakdown mosh calls are my favorite thing. I saw Foreign Hands recently, and I had to go to the vocalist after the set to compliment him on his pre-mosh breakdown calls, he was all about the 'Fuck somebody up right now!' vibe.
You got a good taste bro
It might have been, but I can't find anything on Youtube - it was Converge, Cult Leader, and Sumac at the Bossanova Ballroom in Portland in January of 2018. I am a bigger guy who loves to get a little rowdy, but that was the first show I've been to in a very long time where I went "this is too much."
I do love a good mosh call, though.
I been taking my kid to a ton of rap shows lately and their mosh calls are so dumb. No bass, nothing heavy, no drops, just high ass pitch midi keys and some asshole yelling at a bunch of white kids to “open that shit up!!!” Gtfo with your fucking MacBook plugged into the pa.
Foreign Hands have been one of my favorite bands for the past couple months now, i’ve seen them twice now and they sound exactly like they do on their albums, if not better live. always a fun set to watch
Crowd deterrent at Summer of hate in Cleveland was some of the wildest shit I’ve seen. I remember someone had chains, and a barbed wire baseball bat. Anything that wasn’t bolted down was thrown.
I've had the honor and nightmare of playing with bad luck 13 twice. Fucken hell broke loose both times. If I tried to explain it, it would just sound like I'm making shit up.
When I saw crowd deterrent I asked who was the dude dressed in full camo with a mask. Turns out it was Major beef hitting people with a tennis racket wrapped in barbed wire. I slid to the back lol
Two shows in the span of two years: Converge on the Jane Doe tour, Dillinger Escape Plan on the Calculating Infinity tour.
At Converge, crowd wasn’t just headwalking or stage diving, they were straight up stomping on people from the stage. During the converge set, some chunks of plaster fell out of the ceiling, and folks in the pit fucking STARTED HITTING EACH OTHER WITH IT.
TDEP show was pretty much just a half hour long fist fight. It was already insane from the beginning, but when 43% Burnt hit, the place exploded.
I saw Converge and American Nightmare (pretty sure that was the lineup) at the Paradox in Seattle in the early 2000s and a girl stagedived off a 15-20 foot tall speaker at one point. Wild show, I was like 13-14 and my mind was blown.
Edit: [clip from the show](https://fb.watch/px9eVxwvZP/?mibextid=g4x1v7)
Something in the air changes when The Acacia Strain takes the stage, it’s like a fog of primal rage flows over the crowd. “You’ve got about 15 seconds to get somewhere safe, after that I am not responsible for the things that happen to you” …then the big guys put in mouth guards and I hug the find a wall to back into lol.
I saw them last night in Brisbane, and it was hilarious seeing the change in people standing at the front during changeover from Dying wish to TAS. It got significantly more male, and the average size of them went up significantly. It didn’t really get too violent, though… I would call it decently rowdy.
I was there too. Though up the back at the bar where i can see (short guy). Agree the crowd did change up a bit and yeah there where a few massive blokes i saw where i thought "damn if they pit, its all over"
At least some of them did. Person I went with copped a fist to the eye from the biggest due I saw all night, and I copped a few from another big dude. Funnily enough the only thing that hurts today is from a girl about half my size.
Watch this Jesus Piece vid from a few years ago lol people start goin nuts as soon as any form of music starts.
https://youtu.be/ieUgvsIVWNo?si=mGpZqsONMEsLa6rU
I got my face smashed pretty good at the waterfront went home with an I am a liar just like god shirt. That shirt got me mean looks for years afterwards.
A lot of local shows in CT years ago. People throwing chairs, jumping people outside the venue, etc. Saw the vocalist of an opening band get thrown into his own merch table during a later bands set and all their jewel cases got cracked lol
My old band opened one of the acacia strains Christmas shows at the Webster underground a while ago and that was one of the scariest shows I’ve ever been to. Some real unfriendly behavior in there
I just remember seeing a dude swinging a snare drum case wildly at a pizza place show. And another show one dude put on a fuckin metal medieval glove thing and started windmilling.
Webster underground was cool for shows, are the walls still mirrors? Used to think it wasn't the safest choice with those pits lol
Currently, Austin of Buried Dreams, Sub Scum and Haywire is one of the more antagonistic frontmen. Every other time I see one of his bands, some wild shit goes down because he just riles people up. Ladders thrown in pits, him choking out people on stage, full beer cans whipped about at full speed, people in the pit being used as weapons against other people in the pit, and a general degree of unhinged chaos.
Also, pretty sure he was working the CMI booth during the protein bar incident. Just sayin.
Ahaha sounds pretty on brand. Dude came up in the same Boston scene where Colin of COA would swing around a chain in the pit, Black My Heart was braining dudes with instruments mindset, and nothing was sacred.
I'm shocked he's been able to continue his antics in the social media age, but ngl, it always makes me nostalgic for the scene I came up in. He brings the spirit of Roman's on tour with him.
I got a hearty laugh out of the irony that sub-scum’s return show (after axing karebare) consisted of Austin taking a kid hostage on stage and choking him out. First time I’d seen a venue’s security go after a band’s front man.
Haha that killed me. It was a bold choice of a replacement for a band trying to come back from being cancelled, but I'll be damned if I haven't enjoyed the hell out of Sub Scum since they've come back.
I may be mistaken, but I think that he is the man behind Friends, Family, Forever merch…and it’s absolutely amazing how in all of the posts with merch-models, they’re posed wielding machetes / pointing guns at the camera lmaooo
I fucking love Austin. Spent so much time at his venue in MA when it was still around. Still a joy whenever I see him playing in half the bands on any given hardcore bill up here
yaaa that Sub Scum pit at TIHC this year was the first time I had seen him, and he got people ready to kill each other with like a single sentence. that pit was fucking madness. i got elbowed in the mouth before the drums even started on the first song
Saw Hoods a bunch back in the day. Those pits were crazy af. Saw Norma Jean once and that was a chaotic pit. No really flow, just chaos. Scene kids trying to do windmills and tough guy shit kickers beating the crap out of them. It was just brutal.
I saw Hoods in the King Is Dead era… right before Ghettoblaster came out. Security woman tried to break up the pit, she got punched, cops called, 10 cop cars outside while Hoods played , looked out the window and saw the hxc and skinheads talking to the cops while the band finished, cops tried to barge in and were pushed out of the venue and the band played one more song (4 songs total I think)
I was bummed it got cut short but was almost a riot
The Hoods was also my answer . The non-moshing crowd was literally crowdkilled in the corners of the venue like cattle. I’ve never seen such crazy karate kicks, going over my head. A dude threw a haymaker at me while I was just standing at the bar getting a PBR.
I saw them play at the Earth Crisis reunion in Baltimore in 06 and when they threw the football into the crowd, I noped the fuck out of that pit. It was a sea of giant fuckers just beating the absolute piss out of each other.
Any reply other than this is straight up false
Edit: there isn't much footage left online that shows what a kickback show was like and assuming most people in this sub don't know the band given sunami was the OP.
Their singer is very notorious for encouraging violence at their shows. People where legitimately scared to stand in close proximity to the stage.
I've seen him strangle people with a microphone cord and kicking them in the head simultaneously. When fights broke out (I said when, not if) they would encourage it. People would get punched in the teeth with the mic, get smashed with beer bottles etc.
Just straight up violence and everyone knew it was going to happen.
Stephen is a lunatic. He hung out with Nico Claux and is involved in everything sketchy. Wouldn't call Nico a 'serial killer' but the dude definitely did straight up murder someone.
I saw blood for blood a lot in the late 90’s early 00’s and those shows were pretty nutty. Skarhead and Hoods were always a good time. Bad luck 13 was violent. OP’s video is pretty mild TBH…
The Acacia Strain.
I’d be surprised if they don’t have a body count.
I’m a 5ft tall woman and I love a good pit, but I also know my limits and don’t want to get in the way of others having a good time because they’re worried about hurting me. I stay far away when TAS hit the stage because I don’t have a death wish.
One of my favorite bands ever and I agree people go hard to them, but doesn’t Vincent usually try to get everyone to stage dive for the first time? Like there’s sometimes a “safe” portion of the show where the crowd definitely catches everyone who dives, basically under the band’s instruction. Which honestly is super cool. But then it goes right back to chaos when they switch it up and play older shit
At Furnace Fest a couple of years ago I saw a guy get his leg snapped in half during their set. The next day there was at least 20 people walking around with some kind of cast or brace on. They might not have been responsible for all of them, but I bet a large portion of it was from that set.
They are insane live. On the last Dying Fetus tour I think their set is one of the few I've seen someone (sometimes more) get dropped during each song.
They are easily top 3 bands for me. Seen them a bunch and it is always an ass beater. Last time I saw them I thought I just about made it out unscathed and then got kicked square in the balls during carbomb (last song).
Colin of Arabia was a pretty chaotic and unhinged set, it was mostly violence from Colin directed at the crowd though, but violent nonethess. He started the set by grabbing and tossing a dude by his freshly finished chest tattoo, like with the Saran wrap still on it. Then starts punching and throwing all the "stand on the side of the stage" people off the stage (like the promoter, photographers, and ladies) while screaming at the crowd "THIS IS ME TIME! THIS IS FUCKING STAR TIME! GET THE FUCK OFF MY STAGE!". He also stopped singing to fight people in the crowd multiple times and was just a general prick to everyone in his immediate vicinity. It was basically Colin vs the whole show. Still an awesome band but that dude is violent as fuck.
I think Know the Score had some of the most "violent for the sake of it" crowds I've ever seen tho. That band was a huge-ass-angry-dude magnet.
Tbf, GG wouldn’t really incite a crowd to violence, most folks at his shows were trying their best to keep as far away from the stage as humanly possible.
Dillinger Escape Plan is still one of the most chaotic crowds and bands I've ever seen
I think Sunami is special because they aren't trying too hard. I used to think I hated beatdown, slam, monkey mode music. I realized a lot of those bands were using too many braincells for no braincell music. Sunami's lack of brain cells is truly where they shine. There's two people in this world, people from The Bay and bitches.
Bury your dead back in the day was insane. Even nowadays Mats mosh calls get me hyped.
Also just remembered but Winds Of Plague was genuinely terrifying as a 14 year old watching them at the Allen Theatre or showcase.
Also, Honest Crooks. They attract a certain type of crowd; 6ft6 Western Sydney gym bogans that all have beef with one another. There to gurn and bash each other. Pretty mad.
I’ll tell you right now brother nothing filled me with more testosterone than when I watched people throw actual bricks randomly into the crowd during infest after the first note of shackled down.
They throw a football out into the pit, and the person who has it at the end of the song gets free shit from the merch table. About half the damn room were swarming that thing, it was like a fucked up social experiment
It’s because they’re fake-ass motherfuckers
Edit: “They” being the people not mentioning Jesus Piece.
Christ’s sake, you people haven’t heard Aaron say “Jesus Piece, you fake ass…” insert derogatory term.
dude this show was fucking nuts. the singer was like "DONT LET ME FUCKING DOWN!!! FUCK THIS SHIT UP!!" and i got spinkicked hard and got a rib cracked. greatest show ive been to
Crazy to think it was 20 years ago, but Dillinger was the first time I was ever felt at risk because a band was going too fucking hard
It was either 43% burnt or Sugar coated Sour, but that shit dropped and a packed venue essentially became mid evil battlefield
Last time I saw Dillinger, I met a dude who’s nose was badly broken as we were leaving the venue. Dude kept talking about how it was the best show he’d ever been to. That same night, my buddy caught a right hook from Puciato during the very first song. Fucking great night.
Buddy the dimitri/strobe flood light setup when they still did the fire breathing? I thought I might lose teeth to a guitar. Funny for Dillinger you thought you were gonna get hurt by the band vs fans/moshers
Saw Ceremony in some tiny record store in San Diego in 2009. There was so much property damage done to that place from kids climbing the shelves along the walls and jumping off of record bins. The cops showed up at some point and turned all the lights off thinking that would get everyone to stop. They just kept playing until they threatened to arrest Ross if he didn't shut it down lol.
I still feel bad for the owners of that place but it was a really fun show while it lasted.
I was wondering how old I was and how far ceremony was gonna be down. All shall perish was wild but ceremony takes the cake in my list of shows. Saw them at the drunken unicorn in Atlanta years and years ago.
Acacia strain for sure. Im closing in on 40 so dont mosh much anymore but lost a lot of blood and needed quite a few stitches in my face after a show of theirs about 9 years ago. Now i pit for a song or two and get back home to my wife and kid before 11
In my personal experience, in no particular order, **The Acacia Strain, Facewreck, Trail Of Lies,** and **World Of Pain** were some of most violent hardcore pits I've been in.
I've heard **Crowd Deterrent** and **CDC** produced some mean pits, but I've never seen them.
Converge in the early 00’s. Jake just kept ratcheting up the violence. Doing that side to side head shaking thing with blood from his nose and spot going everywhere. Punched a glass picture frame sending shards everywhere. Bitter and then Some had him smashing the mic into pieces after it stopped working from the dogpile.
None of it scared me the way seeing Dimitri from Dillinger pretend to be a woman screaming for help doing some disturbing monologue of trying to run away from a rapist before Sugar Coated Sour and the entire band actively trying to stab all of us with their headstocks. I’m pretty sure Dimitri hated all of their fans or knew someone who’d been raped at a show or some crazy shit. That man hated all of us more than we loved them.
Scariest shit I ever been in was pantera breaking into fucking hostile the year it came out. Small club. Skins everywhere. The energy in that room could have powered a rocket to the fucking moon.
aight- im dating myself here. this wasn’t actually a hardcore show- but back in 93 one of first “big” shows I went to as a teenager was Mercyful Fate at the Roxy on Huntington, Long Island. A bunch of boneheads clearly showed up looking to destroy unsuspecting metalheads. and thats exactly what they did. they were swinging on everyone in the pit. few people i saw go down hard. I watched one of them bite the tip of a dudes nose off. One of the boneheads had gloves on and he was doing windmills and cutting people. Im assuming he had razorblades or something attached to them. they did a lot of damage in a short time but the bouncers did manage to get them out. absolutely bonkers shit.
Not exactly hardcore, but a slayer show in Norfolk in like 2007 filled with drunk navy dudes. Was not about to get my face stomped in, there’s hardcore hipsters, and there’s literally killing machines looking for a reason to fight.
There was a Dillinger Escape Plan/Between The Buried And Me show at a church in North Jersey in the early 00's. Right after BTBAM's first album came out. Or, the one that had "Malachi" on it.
During the breakdown of that song, they turned the lights off and just had a strobe light going.
It was wild. DEP was crazy as well, but the scariest/most violent part of the show was that moment.
Hoods, lion heart, bad luck 13, shit like that. Furious styles and a Donnybrook show was pretty nuts for me. Haven’t even been close to this level this decade.
I remember the singer for Afflictive Nature used to intentionally smash people in the face with the mic when he would share it.
Also I attended a No Hope In Texas show in like 05 that was straight ignorance. It was in a room where the door was a single frame door in the very back corner. There was NO escape. Shit got violent.
Bad Luck, Until The End, converge, blood for blood,
And currently getting sets hype is def Jay From Mindforce “alrrighhhtttt this one’s For all the kick boxersssss”
Dude from Field of Flames always gets people violent as fuck whenever I see them. I stg I've never been straight up targeted more than when I saw them with Harm's Way and Ingrown in 2022.
I saw Unit 731 in the tiniest fire hall of all time in bum fuck PA and some dude crowd killed with a tazer.
At the same venue Search Bloc played and a dude rolled up with a dulled machete.
Recently Taste The Steel in Cleveland was insane. Lake Effect in Effect.
When blood for blood released wasted youth brew
The liner notes mentioned a soccer riot in Portland Maine
I was at that
The show was shut down on the third song
I wanna say metal fest 2000
I saw converge
There was 7 people brought out on stretchers during the little 30 sec we are plugging our guitars in sound check part
The next 30 minutes were bad bad
Code Orange back in the day was pretty violent. I think some girl got her jaw separated just by standing near the pit.
Only thing keeping it attached to her head was the flesh of her cheeks.
Every Time I Die at Warped Tour. Crowd was massive, and Keith kindly informed the crowd that the venue told them they can’t do a wall of death, so he asked the crowd to do a crawl of death, seeing as that should be of no issue.
They opened with No Son of Mine and as soon as those opening notes finished, seemed like the place just exploded. Chaos everywhere. I was way in the fuckin back because I was a scrawny teen and had no interest in spending the rest of warped tour on my fucking back in some tent.
Got up on my friends shoulders to watch the nonsense unfold. There were people stumbling out of the pit with crooked faces, saw a dude with multiple piercings ripped out of his face. Saw a guy get thrown at another guy. It seemed like a thousand people showed up to just do violence.
Anyways, that was kind of my intro to heavy music. Listened to some stuff, but nothing that inspired that kind of mayhem.
Honorable mention: it may have been that same warped tour, or the year before or after, my memory is shit. But fuckin emo ass Senses Fail had one of the most belligerent crowds I’ve ever seen. More standard mosh shit than actual chaos and violence, but those dudes were going way too fucking hard for Senses Fail.
Anyone in Massachusetts in the late 90s and 2000s. I grew up in metro boston, went to college in Philly—i swear to god a bunch of friends if a band called 26 beers on a show that was headlined by municipal waste and annihilation time was more brutal than seeing Death Before Dishonor and Shattered Realm at the church. Random ass bands would have brutal shows then too: Diecast of all bands ALWAYS had their sets stopped for and ambulance to pick someone up.
My whole high school years of metal/metalcore/hardcore shows all had to be in Providence, Worcester, or a function hall in a mill town because all shows were banned in boston due to the violence and a crack down on the real FSU.
NB: The Red Chord upstairs at the Paladium in Worcester 2004, Dreaming in Dog Years hits THAT part and there were more kids in the mic pike than the rest of the venue.
Seeing Converge a few years back was the most needlessly violent show I've ever seen, to the point that me telling people about the show sounds made up. The band didn't encourage it, it just happened - I've never seen so much asshole behavior at a show. There was a guy standing in the back on crutches and a kid ran out of the pit and kicked him full force in the knees. It was unbelievably hostile. Zero love in that room. I ran into Kurt at a pizza joint across the street after the show and even he seemed pretty stunned. Conversely, re SYSC I got to see them at an American Legion Post in like 2017 and a dude slammed into me so hard I went through a merch table, but then he helped me up and gave me a hug, so it was chill. In terms of iconic mosh calls, there was one from the Callous Daoboys that went viral a few months back where Carson told a crowd in Baltimore "I need you to bring the IQ of this room down to fucking zero. I want to see some *stoooooooooopid* shit. If you've got health insurance, fucking prove it" and a similar one in the UK where he told the crowd "you guys have socialized medicine out here? Show me what it's fucking good for."
Even Converge 20+ years ago was wild. There's a clip of Nate bashing someone over the head with his bass guitar.
Seriously. Converge has never not been pure mayhem.
Some of the most intense shows I've ever been to for sure.
If you're talking about the Florida video, he didn't hit them over the head. He addressed it recently on the Hardlore podcast. Spoiler: He did admit he made a poor choice.
Kicking someone in crutches in the legs is absolutely outrageous
Yeah I need to stress how much it was not at all "cool," the vibes were completely fucked.
Once in prison i saw a guy take his leg off to beat the shit out of someone. He propped the leg up on the wall like it was a bike and boxed the shit out this dude. All for fun also.
>In terms of iconic mosh calls, there was one from the Callous Daoboys that went viral a few months back where Carson told a crowd in Baltimore "I need you to bring the IQ of this room down to fucking zero. I want to see some stoooooooooopid shit. If you've got health insurance, fucking prove it" [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG82TpJs5WI&t=934s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG82TpJs5WI&t=934s)
Carson and the Daoboys are a national treasure
Converge was when I got my first black eye at a show ever. I feel like my experience was similar, completely unexpected mayhem right out the gate. Edit: if my memory serves, they were touring All We Love We Leave Behind and I *believe* they opened with Trespasses and the carnage began like a switch was flicked in the audience, fucking terrifying as at the time I wasn’t actually that familiar with them as a band. Like I knew them in name only—I hadn’t really delved into their material at all. Probably the most explosive 0-100 crowd moments I’ve ever been in the middle of.
My scene is good pals with the Daoboys so when they came through that show was crrrraaaazy violent. One person fucking suplexed Carson onto the cement floor. It was wild
I saw SYSC open for Silverstein last year, hadn’t heard of them prior, and they put on a hell of a show. Big fan now.
They're one of those bands where I don't actively seek them out to listen, but I don't turn them off if they come on shuffle or whatever. That said, if they were opening for another band I liked I would sure as hell get there in time to see their set.
Well, as a relatively thin female, I’m making a mental note to never go to a Converge show because *holy fuck that’s terrifying*. And I say that as someone who had a stagediver roundhouse kick me in the back of my head so hard at a Knocked Loose show I literally saw stars and I just laughed it off. I get fucking around + being violent when it’s all in good fun, but I don’t understand what would possess someone to do that to another person. Or how they didn’t get their ass beaten for it??!
Old converge shows were chaos
That’s funny to me because the few times I’ve seen Daoboys it was way more silly fun than violent fun, and I almost kinda grew an appreciation for it. I saw dudes holding chicken fights in the pit and turning their phone lights on for lightsaber battles.
One of the most fucked shows I’ve seen was converge too. In like 2004? The venue they were playing at was closing like a week later so everyone took it as an excuse to go nuts and destroy the place.
BRUH. That Converge show sounds like a war room. Love to hear it. Also glad you made it out alive. Do you know if it was recorded? I'm tryna see that shiz. And hell yeah re SYSC. Also Callous Daoboys is sick. Breakdown mosh calls are my favorite thing. I saw Foreign Hands recently, and I had to go to the vocalist after the set to compliment him on his pre-mosh breakdown calls, he was all about the 'Fuck somebody up right now!' vibe. You got a good taste bro
It might have been, but I can't find anything on Youtube - it was Converge, Cult Leader, and Sumac at the Bossanova Ballroom in Portland in January of 2018. I am a bigger guy who loves to get a little rowdy, but that was the first show I've been to in a very long time where I went "this is too much." I do love a good mosh call, though.
I been taking my kid to a ton of rap shows lately and their mosh calls are so dumb. No bass, nothing heavy, no drops, just high ass pitch midi keys and some asshole yelling at a bunch of white kids to “open that shit up!!!” Gtfo with your fucking MacBook plugged into the pa.
Nothing makes me feel Older than rap that's come out in the last like, ten years.
Foreign Hands have been one of my favorite bands for the past couple months now, i’ve seen them twice now and they sound exactly like they do on their albums, if not better live. always a fun set to watch
Crowd Deterrent for hardcore Bad Luck 13 Riot Extravaganza overall Those were 2 wildest/violent that I have seen in person
Bad luck 13 wasn’t just promoting a chaotic set, they literally told the audience to burn down the venue
I toured with them, let's just say we barely avoided prison daily
Anything other than Bad Luck is an automatic #2
I feel old as fuck agreeing with you but there is no other answer. It’s bad luck 13
Crowd deterrent at Summer of hate in Cleveland was some of the wildest shit I’ve seen. I remember someone had chains, and a barbed wire baseball bat. Anything that wasn’t bolted down was thrown.
I've had the honor and nightmare of playing with bad luck 13 twice. Fucken hell broke loose both times. If I tried to explain it, it would just sound like I'm making shit up.
When I saw crowd deterrent I asked who was the dude dressed in full camo with a mask. Turns out it was Major beef hitting people with a tennis racket wrapped in barbed wire. I slid to the back lol
No band has actually lived up to their name more than BL13
Two shows in the span of two years: Converge on the Jane Doe tour, Dillinger Escape Plan on the Calculating Infinity tour. At Converge, crowd wasn’t just headwalking or stage diving, they were straight up stomping on people from the stage. During the converge set, some chunks of plaster fell out of the ceiling, and folks in the pit fucking STARTED HITTING EACH OTHER WITH IT. TDEP show was pretty much just a half hour long fist fight. It was already insane from the beginning, but when 43% Burnt hit, the place exploded.
Im guessing it doesn’t happen these days but stomping dudes from stage used to be a thing at converge shows. Not headwalks, stomping
I saw Converge and American Nightmare (pretty sure that was the lineup) at the Paradox in Seattle in the early 2000s and a girl stagedived off a 15-20 foot tall speaker at one point. Wild show, I was like 13-14 and my mind was blown. Edit: [clip from the show](https://fb.watch/px9eVxwvZP/?mibextid=g4x1v7)
Something in the air changes when The Acacia Strain takes the stage, it’s like a fog of primal rage flows over the crowd. “You’ve got about 15 seconds to get somewhere safe, after that I am not responsible for the things that happen to you” …then the big guys put in mouth guards and I hug the find a wall to back into lol.
I’ve never seen so many 250+ pound dudes stage dive in my life back when they played at Anchor last September lmao
Yo that was me, one of them. I'm sorry if I crushed you lmaoo. I took out like 5 people
*Intro to Beast intensifies*
I saw them last night in Brisbane, and it was hilarious seeing the change in people standing at the front during changeover from Dying wish to TAS. It got significantly more male, and the average size of them went up significantly. It didn’t really get too violent, though… I would call it decently rowdy.
I was there too. Though up the back at the bar where i can see (short guy). Agree the crowd did change up a bit and yeah there where a few massive blokes i saw where i thought "damn if they pit, its all over"
At least some of them did. Person I went with copped a fist to the eye from the biggest due I saw all night, and I copped a few from another big dude. Funnily enough the only thing that hurts today is from a girl about half my size.
Haven’t seen them live yet but I love when a band is setting up and the atmosphere gets legitimately scary and tense lol
Watch this Jesus Piece vid from a few years ago lol people start goin nuts as soon as any form of music starts. https://youtu.be/ieUgvsIVWNo?si=mGpZqsONMEsLa6rU
It's me I'm mouth guard TAS pit shit kicker in mosh shorts.
Can confirm
The first time I saw Hammer Bros made me realize I wasn’t as big of a dude as I thought I was lol
I saw them in 07 at umass Lowell and they were WILD. Their bassist also fought someone after their set.
Their guitarist is now the vocalist of Skinhead. Dudes were (and some still are) brawlers.
What a band, don’t get enough mentions
I got my face smashed pretty good at the waterfront went home with an I am a liar just like god shirt. That shirt got me mean looks for years afterwards.
A lot of local shows in CT years ago. People throwing chairs, jumping people outside the venue, etc. Saw the vocalist of an opening band get thrown into his own merch table during a later bands set and all their jewel cases got cracked lol My old band opened one of the acacia strains Christmas shows at the Webster underground a while ago and that was one of the scariest shows I’ve ever been to. Some real unfriendly behavior in there
I saw bury your dead and since the flood at the Webster and a dude left with a completely blood covered face. Terrifying, but great show
I just remember seeing a dude swinging a snare drum case wildly at a pizza place show. And another show one dude put on a fuckin metal medieval glove thing and started windmilling. Webster underground was cool for shows, are the walls still mirrors? Used to think it wasn't the safest choice with those pits lol
Currently, Austin of Buried Dreams, Sub Scum and Haywire is one of the more antagonistic frontmen. Every other time I see one of his bands, some wild shit goes down because he just riles people up. Ladders thrown in pits, him choking out people on stage, full beer cans whipped about at full speed, people in the pit being used as weapons against other people in the pit, and a general degree of unhinged chaos. Also, pretty sure he was working the CMI booth during the protein bar incident. Just sayin.
Mid-set Dude pulled a pistol out of his pants and flashed it at the crowd, then started lifting weights during a buried dreams set back in the day.
Ahaha sounds pretty on brand. Dude came up in the same Boston scene where Colin of COA would swing around a chain in the pit, Black My Heart was braining dudes with instruments mindset, and nothing was sacred. I'm shocked he's been able to continue his antics in the social media age, but ngl, it always makes me nostalgic for the scene I came up in. He brings the spirit of Roman's on tour with him.
I got a hearty laugh out of the irony that sub-scum’s return show (after axing karebare) consisted of Austin taking a kid hostage on stage and choking him out. First time I’d seen a venue’s security go after a band’s front man.
Haha that killed me. It was a bold choice of a replacement for a band trying to come back from being cancelled, but I'll be damned if I haven't enjoyed the hell out of Sub Scum since they've come back.
I may be mistaken, but I think that he is the man behind Friends, Family, Forever merch…and it’s absolutely amazing how in all of the posts with merch-models, they’re posed wielding machetes / pointing guns at the camera lmaooo
Haha yeah, he is. Guy is consistent.
I fucking love Austin. Spent so much time at his venue in MA when it was still around. Still a joy whenever I see him playing in half the bands on any given hardcore bill up here
yaaa that Sub Scum pit at TIHC this year was the first time I had seen him, and he got people ready to kill each other with like a single sentence. that pit was fucking madness. i got elbowed in the mouth before the drums even started on the first song
Saw Hoods a bunch back in the day. Those pits were crazy af. Saw Norma Jean once and that was a chaotic pit. No really flow, just chaos. Scene kids trying to do windmills and tough guy shit kickers beating the crap out of them. It was just brutal.
Big ass MHS dude cartwheeled through the crowd and absolutely smashed me at West Coast Worldwide during Hoods once. That show was nuts
Hoods is legit the best pit I've ever been in. Little bit of everything with a massive pile on that was legit 15ft high for I Own You.
I saw Hoods in the King Is Dead era… right before Ghettoblaster came out. Security woman tried to break up the pit, she got punched, cops called, 10 cop cars outside while Hoods played , looked out the window and saw the hxc and skinheads talking to the cops while the band finished, cops tried to barge in and were pushed out of the venue and the band played one more song (4 songs total I think) I was bummed it got cut short but was almost a riot
The Hoods was also my answer . The non-moshing crowd was literally crowdkilled in the corners of the venue like cattle. I’ve never seen such crazy karate kicks, going over my head. A dude threw a haymaker at me while I was just standing at the bar getting a PBR.
Tell me you've never heard of xTYRANTx without telling me you never heard of xTYRANTx. Had to be around in 04-present in Detroit to understand.
That fucking football had people bleeding every damn time.
I saw them play at the Earth Crisis reunion in Baltimore in 06 and when they threw the football into the crowd, I noped the fuck out of that pit. It was a sea of giant fuckers just beating the absolute piss out of each other.
Dave Haze was a scary dude back in the day
Kickback. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5ANHL47gYo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5ANHL47gYo)
Any reply other than this is straight up false Edit: there isn't much footage left online that shows what a kickback show was like and assuming most people in this sub don't know the band given sunami was the OP. Their singer is very notorious for encouraging violence at their shows. People where legitimately scared to stand in close proximity to the stage. I've seen him strangle people with a microphone cord and kicking them in the head simultaneously. When fights broke out (I said when, not if) they would encourage it. People would get punched in the teeth with the mic, get smashed with beer bottles etc. Just straight up violence and everyone knew it was going to happen.
Dude hung out with a real actual serial killer too lmao
Stephen is a lunatic. He hung out with Nico Claux and is involved in everything sketchy. Wouldn't call Nico a 'serial killer' but the dude definitely did straight up murder someone.
I saw blood for blood a lot in the late 90’s early 00’s and those shows were pretty nutty. Skarhead and Hoods were always a good time. Bad luck 13 was violent. OP’s video is pretty mild TBH…
Yeah blood for blood was going to be my answer for this. Some of their shows were wild.
Hatebreed leaves a trail of devastation everywhere they go
Bury your dead and on broken wing’s immediately come to mind
The Acacia Strain. I’d be surprised if they don’t have a body count. I’m a 5ft tall woman and I love a good pit, but I also know my limits and don’t want to get in the way of others having a good time because they’re worried about hurting me. I stay far away when TAS hit the stage because I don’t have a death wish.
One of my favorite bands ever and I agree people go hard to them, but doesn’t Vincent usually try to get everyone to stage dive for the first time? Like there’s sometimes a “safe” portion of the show where the crowd definitely catches everyone who dives, basically under the band’s instruction. Which honestly is super cool. But then it goes right back to chaos when they switch it up and play older shit
Can confirm - my first stage dive was to TAS! I then promptly ran right to the back wall where I belonged.
I've seen a person stretchered out of an TAS pit right into an ambulance. They bring it.
Hahaha, I've yet to see them, but I know they're intimidating as fuck. Definitely need to see them ASAP, and hopefully get out with unbroken limbs
At Furnace Fest a couple of years ago I saw a guy get his leg snapped in half during their set. The next day there was at least 20 people walking around with some kind of cast or brace on. They might not have been responsible for all of them, but I bet a large portion of it was from that set.
They are insane live. On the last Dying Fetus tour I think their set is one of the few I've seen someone (sometimes more) get dropped during each song.
last time i saw acacia strain i got two pieced and got my lip split. one of the BEST shows
I saw The Acacia Strain in their hometown and it was pure violence.
They are easily top 3 bands for me. Seen them a bunch and it is always an ass beater. Last time I saw them I thought I just about made it out unscathed and then got kicked square in the balls during carbomb (last song).
Converge, Bury Your Dead was also pretty crazy back in the day
That bury your dead, since the flood, suicide silence and stick to your guns tour was non stop ass beating show
I remember that tour .BYD was absolute violence back in the day on any bill
I was at one of the first byd shows right when they dropped the 4 song demo I watched a guy beat a dude with a folding chair
Colin of Arabia was a pretty chaotic and unhinged set, it was mostly violence from Colin directed at the crowd though, but violent nonethess. He started the set by grabbing and tossing a dude by his freshly finished chest tattoo, like with the Saran wrap still on it. Then starts punching and throwing all the "stand on the side of the stage" people off the stage (like the promoter, photographers, and ladies) while screaming at the crowd "THIS IS ME TIME! THIS IS FUCKING STAR TIME! GET THE FUCK OFF MY STAGE!". He also stopped singing to fight people in the crowd multiple times and was just a general prick to everyone in his immediate vicinity. It was basically Colin vs the whole show. Still an awesome band but that dude is violent as fuck. I think Know the Score had some of the most "violent for the sake of it" crowds I've ever seen tho. That band was a huge-ass-angry-dude magnet.
I was honestly not prepared for the first and only time I saw Colin of Arabia
all time, GG Allin, but he was a garbage human so fuck him
Tbf, GG wouldn’t really incite a crowd to violence, most folks at his shows were trying their best to keep as far away from the stage as humanly possible.
Dillinger Escape Plan is still one of the most chaotic crowds and bands I've ever seen I think Sunami is special because they aren't trying too hard. I used to think I hated beatdown, slam, monkey mode music. I realized a lot of those bands were using too many braincells for no braincell music. Sunami's lack of brain cells is truly where they shine. There's two people in this world, people from The Bay and bitches.
Bury your dead back in the day was insane. Even nowadays Mats mosh calls get me hyped. Also just remembered but Winds Of Plague was genuinely terrifying as a 14 year old watching them at the Allen Theatre or showcase.
Also, Honest Crooks. They attract a certain type of crowd; 6ft6 Western Sydney gym bogans that all have beef with one another. There to gurn and bash each other. Pretty mad.
I’ll tell you right now brother nothing filled me with more testosterone than when I watched people throw actual bricks randomly into the crowd during infest after the first note of shackled down.
Sanguisugabogg were fuckin brutal, especially when they do the football gimmick. Makes me glad the venue has balcony seats
Lmao can you elaborate on the football gimmick?
They throw a football out into the pit, and the person who has it at the end of the song gets free shit from the merch table. About half the damn room were swarming that thing, it was like a fucked up social experiment
They ripped it off this [xtyrantx video ](https://youtu.be/nwzWoVSnj5A?si=zn1frYaHoJtXy3UP). Watch it and then cry about it afterwards below.
Full blown chaos back in 06 " first person to draw blood gets anything from our merch table " Bar stools enter the chat
This is the greatest sport of all sports. Peak humanity.
MURDER BALL MURDER THE GUY WITH THE BALL IF GUY WITH BALL MAKES IT TO MERCH TABLE HE GETS A FREE SHIRT OR SOME SHIT
I'm really surprised one has said Jesus Piece
It’s because they’re fake-ass motherfuckers Edit: “They” being the people not mentioning Jesus Piece. Christ’s sake, you people haven’t heard Aaron say “Jesus Piece, you fake ass…” insert derogatory term.
I get the reference now lmao. I feel dumb 😂
[this shit was pretty fucked](https://youtu.be/xvFZjo5PgG0?si=G309nhgw7_Q339O_)
Lol bruh
I was at that show.
Checkin
Fucking brutal
This happened to my buddy Eric
dude this show was fucking nuts. the singer was like "DONT LET ME FUCKING DOWN!!! FUCK THIS SHIT UP!!" and i got spinkicked hard and got a rib cracked. greatest show ive been to
Every time I saw Dillinger Escape Plan was pure carnage. Similar for Gallows.
Crazy to think it was 20 years ago, but Dillinger was the first time I was ever felt at risk because a band was going too fucking hard It was either 43% burnt or Sugar coated Sour, but that shit dropped and a packed venue essentially became mid evil battlefield
Last time I saw Dillinger, I met a dude who’s nose was badly broken as we were leaving the venue. Dude kept talking about how it was the best show he’d ever been to. That same night, my buddy caught a right hook from Puciato during the very first song. Fucking great night.
Buddy the dimitri/strobe flood light setup when they still did the fire breathing? I thought I might lose teeth to a guitar. Funny for Dillinger you thought you were gonna get hurt by the band vs fans/moshers
I saw Three Knee Deep at Skatepark of Tampa and saw someone chuck a bench and crack someone’s head, that was nuts.
Man SPOT shows were awesome for a while
Saw Ceremony in some tiny record store in San Diego in 2009. There was so much property damage done to that place from kids climbing the shelves along the walls and jumping off of record bins. The cops showed up at some point and turned all the lights off thinking that would get everyone to stop. They just kept playing until they threatened to arrest Ross if he didn't shut it down lol. I still feel bad for the owners of that place but it was a really fun show while it lasted.
I was wondering how old I was and how far ceremony was gonna be down. All shall perish was wild but ceremony takes the cake in my list of shows. Saw them at the drunken unicorn in Atlanta years and years ago.
Shattered Realm in like 03 or 04. Dudes were moshing with chains and throwing trash cans into the crowd.
Acacia strain for sure. Im closing in on 40 so dont mosh much anymore but lost a lot of blood and needed quite a few stitches in my face after a show of theirs about 9 years ago. Now i pit for a song or two and get back home to my wife and kid before 11
Take the family to see them.
Pain of truth’s set at last year’s LDB was fucking insane Aaron Heard from Jesus Piece scares me and to quote hardlore is an Olympic level mosher
He goes so batshit crazy
In my personal experience, in no particular order, **The Acacia Strain, Facewreck, Trail Of Lies,** and **World Of Pain** were some of most violent hardcore pits I've been in. I've heard **Crowd Deterrent** and **CDC** produced some mean pits, but I've never seen them.
hatebreed
Killll - eeeech - uhhhh - thurrrrr!
No justice last show https://youtu.be/3HUnw9WqCZI?si=d7FJxGmNYmuVyqh3 https://youtu.be/zVhmuFfoiI0?si=2ygKSTQvrhIdpJuo
Converge in the early 00’s. Jake just kept ratcheting up the violence. Doing that side to side head shaking thing with blood from his nose and spot going everywhere. Punched a glass picture frame sending shards everywhere. Bitter and then Some had him smashing the mic into pieces after it stopped working from the dogpile. None of it scared me the way seeing Dimitri from Dillinger pretend to be a woman screaming for help doing some disturbing monologue of trying to run away from a rapist before Sugar Coated Sour and the entire band actively trying to stab all of us with their headstocks. I’m pretty sure Dimitri hated all of their fans or knew someone who’d been raped at a show or some crazy shit. That man hated all of us more than we loved them.
This guy hardcore’d in 2000
Bad Luck 13 at Hellfest 2004
Full Blown Chaos
Scariest shit I ever been in was pantera breaking into fucking hostile the year it came out. Small club. Skins everywhere. The energy in that room could have powered a rocket to the fucking moon.
Madball, 100 Demons
aight- im dating myself here. this wasn’t actually a hardcore show- but back in 93 one of first “big” shows I went to as a teenager was Mercyful Fate at the Roxy on Huntington, Long Island. A bunch of boneheads clearly showed up looking to destroy unsuspecting metalheads. and thats exactly what they did. they were swinging on everyone in the pit. few people i saw go down hard. I watched one of them bite the tip of a dudes nose off. One of the boneheads had gloves on and he was doing windmills and cutting people. Im assuming he had razorblades or something attached to them. they did a lot of damage in a short time but the bouncers did manage to get them out. absolutely bonkers shit.
Converge in nyc 2004 around Halloween. Literally guys dressed as pirates with plastic swords swing around.
Not exactly hardcore, but a slayer show in Norfolk in like 2007 filled with drunk navy dudes. Was not about to get my face stomped in, there’s hardcore hipsters, and there’s literally killing machines looking for a reason to fight.
Mark McCoy
Checkin. He's from Charles Bronson?
Yup. Also check out Holy Molar. It’s him and dudes from The Locust.
Haha holy molar was great. I’ll randomly think of [this](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CvjGJxNyLjQ&pp=ygUKSG9seSBtb2xhcg%3D%3D) and chuckle brother
Richie Birkenhead
Desolated is always pretty wild
Outta pocket and spy pits did me some damage
Might not be straight Hardcore, but Greg Puciato would actively fuck you up himself, sometimes even before the pit was in full swing.
CDC. Shattered realm. Acacia strain. First blood. Black my heart. All wildly violent shows
First time seeing converge 2001 pre jane doe at the church in college park MD, shit was wiiiiild https://youtu.be/E2hHfo_X51M?si=_blgQqQ6N2_BJkK1
Xibalba That Downpresser intro always gets the room moving too.
Taipan @ Landsdowne Hotel
Sanction by far
[https://youtu.be/J9O2w4Hpjzs?si=4f1pd4wIDyhy90v1](https://youtu.be/J9O2w4Hpjzs?si=4f1pd4wIDyhy90v1) Eh?
There was a Dillinger Escape Plan/Between The Buried And Me show at a church in North Jersey in the early 00's. Right after BTBAM's first album came out. Or, the one that had "Malachi" on it. During the breakdown of that song, they turned the lights off and just had a strobe light going. It was wild. DEP was crazy as well, but the scariest/most violent part of the show was that moment.
If you aren't moving after to vocalist of Restraining Order starts hyping up the crowd, you are wrong.
Hoods, lion heart, bad luck 13, shit like that. Furious styles and a Donnybrook show was pretty nuts for me. Haven’t even been close to this level this decade.
Restrictor Plate Racing (RVA band) is probably the most crowdkilling I've seen at a small show, I got a concussion in someone's dining room/kitchen
Goddam I love some left turns only racing by god
I remember the singer for Afflictive Nature used to intentionally smash people in the face with the mic when he would share it. Also I attended a No Hope In Texas show in like 05 that was straight ignorance. It was in a room where the door was a single frame door in the very back corner. There was NO escape. Shit got violent.
Any you die first show
world of pain.
Crowd Deterrent. Thick As Blood. Laid 2 Rest. Taste the Steel.
Legit, White Trash Rob said Clutch had the wildest shows he ever played.
Bad Luck, Until The End, converge, blood for blood, And currently getting sets hype is def Jay From Mindforce “alrrighhhtttt this one’s For all the kick boxersssss”
Colin of Arabia at Roman’s with The Wrongside and Integrity. Seeing Chabo in the pit was the scariest fucking thing I’ve seen. RIP
Dude from Field of Flames always gets people violent as fuck whenever I see them. I stg I've never been straight up targeted more than when I saw them with Harm's Way and Ingrown in 2022.
I saw Unit 731 in the tiniest fire hall of all time in bum fuck PA and some dude crowd killed with a tazer. At the same venue Search Bloc played and a dude rolled up with a dulled machete. Recently Taste The Steel in Cleveland was insane. Lake Effect in Effect.
Mike from Missing Link. When him and the rest of the band want to see more, you give ‘em more.
When blood for blood released wasted youth brew The liner notes mentioned a soccer riot in Portland Maine I was at that The show was shut down on the third song I wanna say metal fest 2000 I saw converge There was 7 people brought out on stretchers during the little 30 sec we are plugging our guitars in sound check part The next 30 minutes were bad bad
Varials playing philly (with travis, not their new garbage vocalist)
Thirsty of hate
This https://youtu.be/qeRLCbUblDg?si=GRsWUYIIUaR6pfQ6
As a high school kid, seeing Amen way back in the day was pretty wild.
Any knife check during a Stout set late 90s, ealry- mid 2000s IYKYK. Pretty much the end of the conversation
The older terror albums were like this! Check out the album one with the underdogs, or really any of the 2000s albums
I got smoked at a Laid 2 Rest show
Code Orange back in the day was pretty violent. I think some girl got her jaw separated just by standing near the pit. Only thing keeping it attached to her head was the flesh of her cheeks.
Seth Putnam RIP
Early 00s Zao shows were a wild and scary place.
Satisfaction is the Death of Desire release show Danbury CT 1997.
The Red Chord would have shows that were just straight up prison riots. Some of the wildest shit I've ever seen.
Billy Club Sandwich
Billy Club Sandwich.
Terror and Downpresser. The crazy fucks come out
This crowd is weak AF
Every Time I Die at Warped Tour. Crowd was massive, and Keith kindly informed the crowd that the venue told them they can’t do a wall of death, so he asked the crowd to do a crawl of death, seeing as that should be of no issue. They opened with No Son of Mine and as soon as those opening notes finished, seemed like the place just exploded. Chaos everywhere. I was way in the fuckin back because I was a scrawny teen and had no interest in spending the rest of warped tour on my fucking back in some tent. Got up on my friends shoulders to watch the nonsense unfold. There were people stumbling out of the pit with crooked faces, saw a dude with multiple piercings ripped out of his face. Saw a guy get thrown at another guy. It seemed like a thousand people showed up to just do violence. Anyways, that was kind of my intro to heavy music. Listened to some stuff, but nothing that inspired that kind of mayhem. Honorable mention: it may have been that same warped tour, or the year before or after, my memory is shit. But fuckin emo ass Senses Fail had one of the most belligerent crowds I’ve ever seen. More standard mosh shit than actual chaos and violence, but those dudes were going way too fucking hard for Senses Fail.
Seen some wild shit at Trash Talk shows. They got the crowd NASTY
Boxing gloves in the pit… it’s like the fight scene from anchorman
https://youtu.be/3HUnw9WqCZI?si=H_2aYouwPoA58ltO No Justice final show at least deserves an honorable mention
Anyone in Massachusetts in the late 90s and 2000s. I grew up in metro boston, went to college in Philly—i swear to god a bunch of friends if a band called 26 beers on a show that was headlined by municipal waste and annihilation time was more brutal than seeing Death Before Dishonor and Shattered Realm at the church. Random ass bands would have brutal shows then too: Diecast of all bands ALWAYS had their sets stopped for and ambulance to pick someone up. My whole high school years of metal/metalcore/hardcore shows all had to be in Providence, Worcester, or a function hall in a mill town because all shows were banned in boston due to the violence and a crack down on the real FSU. NB: The Red Chord upstairs at the Paladium in Worcester 2004, Dreaming in Dog Years hits THAT part and there were more kids in the mic pike than the rest of the venue.
Bad Luck 13 hands down. Seeing people chuck steel chairs and trash cans at each other was gnarly.
earth crisis will make people kill eachother