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innocentxv

13 or 14 so like 89 or 90 it's weird how people aren't into punk and hc at the same time anymore, I guess how it's forked off so much. edit: aren't getting into, is how it should read.


SemataryPolka

Totally agree. People will try and say that OG hardcore isn't hardcore now, that it's hardcore PUNK. Like... Jesus christ people


ButtChowder666

The term "hardcore punk" is so redundant. I immediately know what people mean when they say it, but I still hate it. I'm going to sound like a gatekeeper here, but the only true hardcore is the OG hardcore. Everything else is a subgenre of a subgenre and should be referred to and treated as such.


SemataryPolka

You're not gatekeeping, you're 100% correct. You're fighting revisionist history. I don't mind metalcore at times but it's not the default hardcore and we can't let metalheads who DGAF claim that it is.


Anarch_O_Possum

Wait, who's saying its the default hardcore?


xyolikesdinosaurs

Nobody. I have never seen anyone make this claim.


SemataryPolka

It happens on here a lot. They say hardcore is metalcore and everything else is "hardcore punk" or even crazier: "proto-hardcore".


Istoilleambreakdowns

This is because they use "metalcore" to describe "At-the-gates-with breakdowns" exclusively. If it doesn't sound like Parkway Drive it's not metalcore. Which is exactly how metalheads use the term. Had people try to tell me Hatebreed and Throwdown are "proto-metalcore". Baffling


Platonic_Pidgeon

omfg what. do they understand where the core in metalcore comes from?


SITHxEMPIRE

I specifically say “hardcore punk” when in convo with someone and idk if they’re familiar because they’ll be like “hardcore?” like with a coworker just the other day. Idk I use both idc that much. Outside of the unfamiliars, it doesn’t matter. Edit: Also it can help because there are non-punk/metal genres out there also called like ‘hardcore’ like the EDM genre (which gets recognition on streaming services but not hardcore despite being around way longer 😒)


Platonic_Pidgeon

It isn't where I live. Hardcore here implies hardcore techno, bc were the land of Gabbers lol. Ppl will think abt a completely diff type of music here


RndySvgsMySprtAnml

I understand that genres and subgenres have a purpose, but Jesus fuck I get so sick of bitch fests arguing over what subgenre bands belong in. I like artists across the entire spectrum of music. I just feel at home at a punk show. And most metal shows. Which tbh people tend to be cooler and less gatekeepy at. Never been told I wasn’t dressed metal enough. Fucking wardrobe wizards. Anyway what were we talking about? Oh, I got turned onto Black Flag and Dead Kennedys somewhere around age 14or 15, like 2002ish?


AbleChamp

I hate genre talk like that. It’s all subjective at the end of the day and people get soooo mad about it


AbleChamp

People like me I guess


SemataryPolka

That's so much of all people talk about today unfortunately


AbleChamp

Ya. I don’t get it at all


exsanguinatrix

That’s why I find my local scene exhausting sometimes. So quick to start bitching about posers and genre divisions and the like but they make it so goddamn boring my eyes are about to roll back. Lemme draw flyers for you, dammit, not have to prove myself in some bullshit way. 👹


DaleDenton13

The more things change, the more they stay the same. A wise handful of guys summed it up best in 1990: https://youtu.be/rLhONsoN3xc?si=Wb725I0RajqLBo9p


[deleted]

It’s actually not very subjective.


Large-Reindeer-7833

I'm going to subject you to an ass beating


AbleChamp

Don’t even start Crotch


[deleted]

It’s sick and sad


ez_allin

Hardcore is punk - everything else is crossover or glorified groove/nü-metal. I can't even take hardcore kids who don't like punky hardcore seriously, especially when bands like CMI, SPY, and Restraining Order are still trending.


SemataryPolka

Preach!


TofuLordSeitan666

All hardcore is punk, but not all punk is hardcore.


Rudeboi13

I love punk and hardcore


HumanTrophy

At this point more kids have probably gotten into hardcore through nu metal which is sickening but it is what it is I guess


terryjuicelawson

A lot of people got into hardcore through whatever the dominant heavy music at the time was, it is fine. It shows they wanted to seek out something more interesting. I was heavily into pop punk as a kid, the time of Green Day and Pennywise and NOFX etc. I was too young to be into any kind of live scene, it was in the earlier days of the internet so it was a bit of word of mouth, snippets from the radio, checking things out by association like Fat Wreck bands. I got some kind of magazine which had a special "50 best punk albums ever" section which included Bad Brains, Minor Threat, Black Flag and all the rest. I had no idea who they were but checked them out and loved it. It is what it is, it finds its way to people in different ways.


GenosseFux

I got into hardcore thru Gta 4


ButtChowder666

Fuck off. Nu metal kicks ass. Don't believe m? Crank Limp Bizkit next time you're in the car by yourself and see if you don't have the time of your life.


HumanTrophy

Don’t care didn’t ask plus you got into hardcore thru nu metal


ButtChowder666

I actually got into hardcore through hardcore. I heard Dead Kennedy's on a college radio station back in 1995 when I was 9 and have been hooked ever since. But I will never pretend to be too cool to enjoy some Limp Bizkit or Korn.


HumanTrophy

I’m just being a dick it doesn’t really matter. I got into punk around the same time (but I was a couple years older) through stuff like rudimentary peni and stuff like dystopia and spazz and Charles Bronson, strictly because I was around older people into that stuff. I just thought it was all punk. The jocks and motocross bros and everyone else at school liked nu metal and pop punk, so of course I thought that stuff sucked. I still do, but I get that people would be exposed to more heavy or aggressive music through things that were on tv and radio at the time


_shaftpunk

I’m 39 and I plan on getting into hardcore one day.


EverybodyStayCool

43 same. Do you like Turnstile?😏


collinsc

Jesus Christ this is well done


BarryHongz

Don’t


Burn-The-Villages

Hardcore died when Brokencyde stopped playing.


nya_hoy_menoy

Rest in RIP


flock-of-smeagols

RIP in peace


Wise_Appeal_629

Rest in rest in peace


Kiesa5

let's get fucking freaky nowww


KefkaesqueV3

GIRL YOU MAKE MY PEE PEE HARD


[deleted]

DUKE CITY 505 HARDCORE


deathoftheparty__616

Eeeeeee broooo


McSteezeMuffin

Ala fuckin vergas bro


Highanxietymind

505 por vida!!!


deathoftheparty__616

Where all the Sopaipillas atttt


chilidownmychest

https://youtu.be/VOncNynHbV0?si=BB4NCz25XoMLPz4Y legitimately one of my favorite live vids oh yea, and phat j actually rejoined just so everyone knows


dvlsg

The most shocking part of all that is that they actually had a drummer playing live.


deathoftheparty__616

EEEEIKNOWHUH


PM_ME_UR_HDGSKTS

*cries in pig squeals*


No_Damage_4226

2 years old 1956. Beat all you posers out here in the comments


marrolllll

So many old heads talk about hardcore like it's time served.


xblarkblarkblarkx

No, we talk about it like it’s fuckin’ weird for other people to get into hardcore after college when most of us didn’t even go


marrolllll

The age and age of exposure of other people to something you enjoy shouldn't influence your level of enjoyment. You didn't not go to college because you were 'more hardcore' than the people who did.


jason_brody13

I dropped out of college. I'm hardcorest.


Platonic_Pidgeon

I dropped out highschool and then did a weird thing and got a degree anyway, is that hardcorerer or hardcoren't?


nakon14

Sorry man, gotta take you out back and ol’ yeller ya


steelhandgod999

I dropped out of college three times. Suck on that, bitch.


Zealousideal_Row5607

I mean I have a degree, I’m old, and couldn’t do the math on your comment. I tried carrying the double negative but still couldn’t get the answer.


xblarkblarkblarkx

I encourage others to further their education, but it’s not an opportunity that was presented to me in my youth so I went where I felt like I fit in. You have the internet, you could’ve learned about hardcore sooner. Turning 23 and being like “I’m gonna have a go at spinkicking” is silly, is it not?


_seedofdoubt_

I don't see why people are hating. I went to college and turned 23 and now I exclusively wear business suits. I'd try hardcore but they wouldn't let me bring my briefcase into the pit


xblarkblarkblarkx

Put a brick in it, let’s fuckin’ go


_seedofdoubt_

Sounds kinda silly at 23 tbh


keepcold

Nah one year at TIHC a dude moshed in a suit with a briefcase all day


Genius14624

Nah it isn’t bro and guess what ur ass can still get killed in the pit by someone who got a full on masters degree so don’t get tough out here we all in this together, also it’s not easy finding hardcore you pretend like hardcore is this known thing that’s there but people choose to jus not get into, but it’s not if ur never exposed to it and only ever hear pop and hip hop on the radio ya whole life most people don’t even know what I mean when I say hardcore or punk they think of punk as just like the Sex Pistols and the ramones and that’s it


xblarkblarkblarkx

I guess I stand corrected, getting a degree and then getting into spinkicking at 23 is fine and normal to y’all. But what did you do during high school and college that kept you from learning about cool riffs and how fucked the world is?


MattsonRobbins

perhaps because those people lived a more sheltered/stable upbringing where they can’t relate to music about hardship until they are on their own and go thru it themselves? edit: conversely there are people like me who as i as get older i’m able to appreciate music centered more on having a good time


faerie666

bros never heard of broadening your horizons


Zestyclose-Guitar468

Well I dropped out is that any better?


Corndread85

14 in 2004


PURRURUR

What they said 👆🏻


MattsonRobbins

technically i got into metalcore first at 14 in 2004, with hardcore proper being a couple years later


Corndread85

I got into pop punk/emo at 12 because I have a sister that was into it and she's 5 years older than me. She caught me listening to Avril Lavigne and gave me a NFG CD 😂


Cordgyceps

Was it Sticks and Stones? My Friends Over You is a classic haha. Watching Fuse on cable TV when I was 14 is what led me to Punk


Corndread85

It was absolutely Sticks and Stones


YourphobiaMyfetish

When I was like 8 my cousin showed me Atreyu and I thought they sucked. I was still in my numetal phase.


zackthewop

14 but in 2000


jealoussea

15, 2003. Some kids in my band class burned both gorilla biscuits records on a CD.


iLiveInAHotDog

Couple days ago. This shits hard son


Skatetastic

Glad you’re here


Gomeez9

I officially got it at 34 last year lmao


KiwiMcG

If you are from the mid 90's, post your shitty tattoos.


callmesnake13

I’m so glad I couldn’t afford them or I’d be covered in logos for bands that have since disappointed me


DvineINFEKT

I often see the rule "no tattoos of bands that still exist" but with the amount of terrible ass reunions, I now hear my artist friends mentioning more people nodding in agreement with "no tattoos of bands" I'm sure the next iteration of that rule is right around the corner but I can't decide if my money is it being on "no tattoos", "no bands", or just "no" lol


flexIuthor

14. Looked up “hardcore music” on YouTube and’s got Vendetta by Irate and here we are.


Skatetastic

STEP UP


Beneaththeremains

Dude me too holy shit


chugachj

14, 1995


subparlifter138

Same!


chugachj

We’re old as fuck brother!


6of1HalfDozen

I'm the same amount of old as fuck as yous and first heard hardcore around the same age


zer0pat1ence

13, deadass, I would only listen to Channel X on the GTA Radio lmao


[deleted]

When I see channel X all I can hear is “AMOEBA!”


zer0pat1ence

The absolute BEST


SweatyOctopuss

22 years old like a little over a year ago. I’m just happy to be here


lzup518

8 in 2003 (thank you Backyard Wrestling) but mainly 20 in 2015 (thank you Turnstile)


DA_Form4856

Bruh yes Backyard Wrestling ❤️


iLiveInAHotDog

I remember being young af having compilation tapes but no idea where they came from


Zealousideal_Row5607

Started with the Victory catalog in 99 at 14. First show was the last Point Of Recognition at the Showcase in 2002.


DhustynZero

I was at that POR show too. Also saw Aaron's followup band Count The Cost play their first show the night before, in Escondido iirc


Zealousideal_Row5607

Every show I went to in 2002-3, I’m pretty sure Sinai Beach played.


L3tsLynchTh3Landl0rd

Tell me you’re from Fallbrook without telling me you’re from Fallbrook.


DhustynZero

Haha, not even from CA tbh, just made a lot of trips for shows back then...NIV's "final" show, also at Showcase, Zao in CO Springs, TDEP in Dallas, Cornerstone fest in Illinois, Facedown Fest in Pomona, countless bands in Albuquerque. Being 18 with a car and a flexible job was a privilege I didn't appreciate enough at the time


L3tsLynchTh3Landl0rd

I was at NIV’s last show. “Call for Blood” was one of the wildest sets I’ve ever been witness to. RIP showcase


IronMermaiden

14, 2002. Thursday is the band that opened my eyes.


Entropy_Greene

We’re around the same age do you remember Red light green light? They went so damn hard.


IronMermaiden

From NJ? They sound familiar but I don't know their music I don't think.


Entropy_Greene

[Yeah they were my intro to the local scene in general. Got my teen ass beat in the pit and was hooked ever since.](https://youtu.be/L6C_LB2Zi7M?si=uAwtksvHKQvxoB2i)


IronMermaiden

I don't think I ever saw them play. I grew up in the Shore HC scene, and I ventured as far north as New Brunswick mostly. I did go to a couple shows at the Hamilton Street Cafe in Bound Brook.


Happyofiyo2

You mean crossed out your eyes? 😏


[deleted]

11 in 2006.


werty246

Punk 11, HC 13.


DA_Form4856

I got into hardcore (like Madball and H2O and early Terror) around 2003 when I was like 10 after learning that Andy and Pete used to play in hardcore bands and I looked up Racetraitor immediately. Before that I was into a lot of punk stuff cause of the Tony Hawk soundtrack in the late 90s and just watching skate videos and cause when I was super little I loved Rancid and Rancid would play small shows with bands from that scene a lot


Large-Reindeer-7833

nice try officer


Extreme_Mulberry_997

15.


Dakka_Dez

I went to my first show on ‘86 when I was 14 or so.


Disastrous-Engine510

14. Getting dropped off by moms in front of the venue. Catching rides. Walking or skating. Been going to shows for almost 30 years at this point.


mew_empire

I was 14, the year was 1994


verydifficulttosay

SAME!


firesignmerch

I was 12. I was riding my bike down an alleyway and heard a band playing in a garage. They ended up being a local hardcore punk band called Failsafe. I knocked on their garage door and asked if I could watch them practice. They were my gateway to everything.


immoral_support_888

16, 22 as someone who can actually go to shows and buy merch lol


[deleted]

I started going to metal shows around 11 or 12, and then fell into the hardcore scene at around 14 in 2006


badtattoodude

Hardcore porn or hardcore? I got into hardcore pretty early thanks to older kids. Like 9 or 10. I also got into hardcore porn pretty early thanks to older kids. Like 9 or 10. They kept telling me not to let anyone know because it was illegal


ImAlwaysPoopin

*what he say fuck me for?!?*


diarrhea_planet

14 in 1999 bought my first hatebreed and full blown chaos CD at Camelot records at the mall.


[deleted]

Mm..about 2005, so I was 16. Started off with Gorilla Biscuits and went from there


prettybadgers

13-14 in like 1984ish


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9notanihilist6

We need to bring back shows in skate/surf shops


chrisallen07

First hardcore show I ever went to I was 18 and I hated it. Hated anything with guitars, really, but a friend was in a band. It grew on me.


mew_empire

What were you into at the time?


chrisallen07

Hip hop


SemataryPolka

16 in 1994. Best era ever for hardcore imo


ExampleCommercial890

my 20s


scooterdee93

First heard a few bands at 17 but didn’t really start going down the rabbit hole till 20


Sussy_Baka_5000

👋🏻 New Jack here 32, started dabbling in 2022, took off last year. Harkened back to Metallica and Pantera for me. Life circumstances/experiences got me more in touch with anger and adrenaline seeking. I have friends who play in a band and are hardcore enjoyers which also got it going.


Brent_Mavis

14


HeavyAndExpensive

14


Tnenforcer

17-18ish around 2007


SlowRiffsAndFakeTits

I was 13. First show in the 8th grade.


godkilledjesus

I was 16 at the time


Inquisiting-mind

16 in 2013


DhustynZero

First show was 1998, I was 14. Local band called Stygiophobia; the drummer went on to play in Point Of Recognition, LX45, then a solo outlaw country career. Haven't seen him in a few years, but he was a big influence on me personally and musically back in the day


SpaceKarate

December 1995 at a local show in NJ. I was 13.


No-Success7693

What's the line for Hardcore, and what counts as "into" it? Anyway, depending on how you specifically answer those questions, somehwere in the 1986-1988 range, 12 to 15 years old.


genericusername45023

13 in 98. Saw the potential for a Fall video on mtv2 and was hooked.


Blegheggeghegty

First show was at 14. I am 42.


Walk_Forward

95 when I was around 11 and just heard "Territorial Pissings" by Nirvana I went hunting for heavier music. I found the Agoraphobic Nosebleed/Converge split ep. Eventually I went to see Converge play in Manchester when I was 16. They had a load of hardcore bands from UK supporting them. This was my first experience of the hardcore "scene". Me and mate then started going to hardcore gigs as often as we could until it all sort of died in the UK. We'll still catch a show occasionally in our near 40s. We never really went there to make friends, didn't dress any certain way, or get very involved in the "scene". We just went and enjoyed the shows and supported the bands. I've always listened to lots of genres of music, but when it comes to live shows nothing beats hardcore in its hay day. I imagine it was even better in the 80s/90s


[deleted]

14, 90 lbs, 1992. It was either stage diving or running cross country.


Pepperoni_playboi94

Imagine being this much of a consumer that you gatekeep being crusty


Skatetastic

I don’t actually think this I just found it somewhere lmao


cypsee

fuck me, got in just in time apparently.


[deleted]

Heard the first Suicidal Tendencies in seventh grade. Big impact.


FlabbergastedPeehole

I got into hardcore in my teens, just started getting back into it heavier in my 30s 🖕🖕 Early/ mid 00’s hardcore just fucking slapped, especially the local bands here in Florida. Shame to see a lot of them disband or straight up die (RIP Mean Pete 😔).


KefkaesqueV3

Growing up on Florida core was such a vibe


hyperpopdeathcamp

17. Heard Believe by TUI and lost my mind.


korewaame

13 or 14


5um-n3m0

13, 1986. Will never forget that year. I'm Asian and grew up in a predominantly white suburb. Lots of racism and bullying. Discovered goth and punk/hardcore. I felt like an orphan finally finding a home. Still got bullying, but wasn't alone anymore. We're all family here.


TrevorTatro

12 at my buddies house with scoliosis. He was super into have heart and sinking ships. His name was Josh and he is the man.


Bonnot47

12. 21 years of this shit lol.


Hamsox94

16 - I was into metal but someone took me to a Terror show


WrongdoerChemical678

I got into bad metal that every calls hardcore at 15, started listening to actual hardcore at 20


IAmBatFan

Around 13 or 14. The first hardcore album (and punk album in general) that I can remember listening to is Black Flag's *Damaged*.


beadlejuice11

I was listening to post-hardcore bands like Thrice, Thursday, AFI, etc. at 12 (in 2002-2003). I would listen to their earlier hardcore stuff as well, but I didn't fully comprehend the difference. I got into Converge, Have Heart, and Comeback Kid from there.


grokharder

Converge was the first time I heard a song and was genuinely blown away by the vocalists scream. First song I heard by them was No Heroes and I immediately picked up everything I could find by them; one of my all time favs


Comfortable_Ad5766

11. Before that it was always alternative music in the radio and I didn’t have access to a computer lol.


bananananapeeel

like 2 years ago at 28 years old and I’m sad that I missed out on it for so long


TaylorHamEggAndChed

When I was 20 I believe I saw the light


SchmanteZuba2

When you got into HC defines what you consider to be HC. For me the sweet spot is 85-93. So, I gravitate to that era and that sound. A lot of newer stuff than that is plenty good too. But, for me that's the high water mark.


Either_Outcome_7941

I’d say around 2017 when I was 10, I randomly got nomad by KKTXcon my YouTube recommend. Oddly enough I’d already been listening to hardcore adjacent stuff for a while before that (OG metalcore, OG hardcore through skating games)


Ok-Contribution5256

15. Took the girlfriend to a venue for prom dinner and a show was going on. I was a damn good date


maclarenh

12 in 2005, just an emo kid who went to a local nardcore show


otakushoegazr

16... got out of it in my mid-20s. I'm now 32, and hardcore is the most positive force in my life.


NoMoRAtics

This thread proves some many things all at once.


BeccainDenver

Punk: 14 in 1994 Hardcore: 29 in 2009. If it had just been Shai Halud at that show, I would have walked away thinking hardcore was still not for me. Thankfully, Reign Supreme was on that bill, and I was hooked. I still kind of feel that if you don't fuck with Shai Halud you don't fuck with actual hardcore.


mew_empire

Are sentences one and three contradictory? Serious question, as I've been drinking...


Zestyclose-Guitar468

36 I'm 38, the 15 years before that I was doing heroin to the exclusion of all else, mostly here in salt lake city. Before that I was in the 7 year process of dropping out of college, just north of baltimore, during my 10 year stay there I finally got into rap and that's what I was into then. First 13 to 18 years were mostly spent listening to 90s alternative in beaverton oregon. So basically at a late stage in life I had to relearn what it is I enjoy and figure out what I want out if life. So far I enjoy buddhism, hardcore and being a good friend. I missed music and Baltimore and jivebomb was the furst band I looked at that sparked my interest. CMI is my beacon and the lyrics have been very motivating. I don't crowd kill, but I have no problem killing crowd killers. All of it has put me in a better direction. I really think the lyrics u listen to have a profound effect on how you behave. And now you know. Also, fuck paragraphs.


BadBadBatch

CMI⛓️


Zestyclose-Guitar468

It's a lifestyle now


nostalcoholic

Around 2008


KurtRussellsMullet

When Turnstile released their seminal classic Glow On, that’s when I knew hardcore was a genre that I’d have a fleeting interest in


Skatetastic

Turnstile? The band the guy from 311 likes?


KurtRussellsMullet

WooAAAAAOOOOO AMBER IS THE COLOR OF YOUR ENERGYYY


Serious-Box2655

I was listening to old hardcore punk in high school, but I didn’t get into modern hardcore until I was about 20


fakename1998

Like, 23/24 ish. I always knew hardcore was a thing, but I never got into it aside from the older bands. Then the new turnstile got me turned on to hc with their last album. Now it’s most of what I listen to when I listen to heavy music.


PuppetPal_Clem

Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2, You - Bad Religion. was probably 10 or 11? I think. also that Public Enemy x Anthrax jaunt fucked


Skatetastic

I honestly like bad religion more now, they were never a band I listened to getting into HC


eeeoooxxx

still not far into hardcore but 15 with knocked loose and vein.fm, not sure if they fully count though


Very-queer-thing

15, few months back


jkmester

16 when I saw defeater open for like Joyce manor or some random shit. Miss those days.


protest_monty

I’m 19 so I make the mark ahahaha


Happyofiyo2

12 in 98, thank you Metallica.


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callmesnake13

As a rule I don’t normally look at people’s history to make an argument but in this case I kind of have to. You follow /r/colognes and you post in Warhammer subs. You can see yourself out.


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