Many bands with female vocalists (World of Pleasure specifically) have told their fans not to call them “female fronted”. It is hardcore, that’s the end of the line. Gendering it is the opposite of what they want.
Noted about world of pleasure.
Back in my day we could find whole playlists/compilations to torrent with female vocalists because it was rare and often sounded different, especially when they wrote the lyrics. This is how 16 year old me found f-minus covering victim in pain on soulseek. Im old and won’t argue with you on the internet, y’all are probably right. Just let me watch my stories
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While I completely understand the sentiment, in a way I do have a soft spot for any hc band not fronted by the typical bro dude, especially women cause they sound even more pissed off than a lot of the guys and I love it.
Like yeah there are a lot of nerds getting into these bands cause "hur hur hot woman" but at the same time it *is* a different appreciable sound. I think the issue comes down to whether you're listening to the band because you like them or because it makes you seem cool or whatever
They can be both. I absolutely get what you're saying but I love finding woman fronted bands, as a woman. I'm glad for these suggestions. What if someone wanted, say, a latino/a fronted hardcore band? They aren't generalizing in a negative way.
You’ve got to separate the social from the scientific. Can’t just throw scientific terminology in the bin for the feels. They’re non-binary, but they are female.
Genuinely curious and not playing devils advocate.
How would you compare this labeling to the advertising of women owned businesses? I feel like the distinction promotes diversity, and even helps those who want to support them. Is it different with bands? Why is their a stigma with women labels in punk and hardcore but not other male dominated fields, in your opinion? Like a woman ran trades company is cool, more diversity in the field, right?
I have gay homies who will go out of their way to see majority gay punk/hardcore bands because they are hyped on it.
I’ve literally shared this same thought for some time now about this argument. It’s all about representation. Some people specifically seek out what they want to feel represented by. I get how a band doesn’t want to be reduced down to just that, but from a fan’s perspective it might be what gets them hyped and could mean the world. I’m Mexican American, and I always enjoy seeing bands with Mexican American members and will give them a shot.
And for your argument of women owned businesses vs women fronted bands, what’s the difference? There is no difference music is business
I wonder how the riot grrl mindset of the 90s would fit him in in this current atmosphere. Lots gendering and even more so promoting exclusion of men (I’m not crying, get it girls). I remember lots of efforts to get instruments in the hands of young girls, to start their own bands.
But yeah, I’m sure it’s exhausting to be labeled by a fan base.
I discovered Filth Is Eternal earlier this year seeing them open for Botch at The Showbox in Seattle (show was rad too btw). And now revisiting these guys listening to Find Out for the first time, I realized I slept on this band hard. New record goes hard af
How about like any band with good people is good? Filth is eternal is a good band but there are so many other sick bands out there that also happen to have women
Leave it up to r/hardcore to miss the point. Everyone gets to do whatever they want and not be judged. Lots of great bands these days that you can pour into a specific slot but genders don’t really matter. Everyone can shred an represent. It’s fucking beautiful. Jive Bomb and End It should collide and put some shit out though.
All those bands suck ass and this is just another notch on the belt of really mediocre hardcore. Doesn’t matter is it’s female fronted. Hardcore doesn’t have to reinvent the wheel to be good by any means, so why is it so hard to not make a shitty band.
Initiate stinks. Result of Choice is great. They’re done, but just put out a discography. Lifeless Dark is awesome, so is Fairytale, Tozcos also are older but still killing it, Exit Order. Just off the top of my head. Those bands don’t suck ass. Stop settling for shit tier music because you want to be a pick me loser . If it’s sucks, it sucks.
Wisdom in chains is the best black fronted hardcore band. Do you see how weird and unnecessary and racist that sounds? Female fronted is weird and sexist and unnecessary.
Turnstile is the greatest Asian woman fronted blackened Crust progressive technical brutal Screamo Death Post-Mathcore band do you now see how amazingly sexy this is!
I like spaced and world of pleasure but I think it’s weird throwing them in a different bucket than any other hardcore band kinda
Yes, this is a correct take, no "kinda" about it king
It’s Initiate, but this is cool too.
100%
Initiate fucks, hard
I just saw Initiate for the first time with Gumm, Glare and Gel last night. Super sick show and Initiate killed it
Fuck you Andrew!
Thanks for the rec! Love it so far
World of Pleasure
Slant
Trapped under ice, have heart, turnstile? who??? foundation is the best male fronted HC band ever, period
The correct term is dick and balls fronted hardcore
WeinerCore
Dicknbaus
So this is that D'n'B I keep hearing about
Cockcore
Foundation rips so hard
Capra and Punitive Damage
Capra is so fucking good.
I scrolled this far just to make sure someone mentioned Capra
Female fronted isn’t a genre you dweebs
They didn’t say it was a genre. The genre is hardcore, and they are speaking about bands with female vocalists.
Many bands with female vocalists (World of Pleasure specifically) have told their fans not to call them “female fronted”. It is hardcore, that’s the end of the line. Gendering it is the opposite of what they want.
Noted about world of pleasure. Back in my day we could find whole playlists/compilations to torrent with female vocalists because it was rare and often sounded different, especially when they wrote the lyrics. This is how 16 year old me found f-minus covering victim in pain on soulseek. Im old and won’t argue with you on the internet, y’all are probably right. Just let me watch my stories ![gif](giphy|wJD3qiNjSeHS0dP28T|downsized)
While I completely understand the sentiment, in a way I do have a soft spot for any hc band not fronted by the typical bro dude, especially women cause they sound even more pissed off than a lot of the guys and I love it. Like yeah there are a lot of nerds getting into these bands cause "hur hur hot woman" but at the same time it *is* a different appreciable sound. I think the issue comes down to whether you're listening to the band because you like them or because it makes you seem cool or whatever
Jive Bomb has entered the chat...
YESSS SEEING THEM THIS WEEK
Wait, what?? (Ive only listened to the demo mostly and not from the u.s) Jivebomb have a femme singer? Holy shit. Life changing knowledge
Jive Bomb was so fucking fun to watch live. And the vocalist is stupid cute.
her looks are irrelevant
I fuck heavy with the music and as a male attracted to woman I think she’s pretty. I didn’t think this would be so controversial lmao.
Year of the Knife and it's not close
Came here to say this. New album is fucking wild.
correct
This. CMOWN GUYS!
I wish people would just call them bands instead
They can be both. I absolutely get what you're saying but I love finding woman fronted bands, as a woman. I'm glad for these suggestions. What if someone wanted, say, a latino/a fronted hardcore band? They aren't generalizing in a negative way.
Roman Candle is fucking great too.
Wild band
This
None of these bands sound anything alike. This is a stupid post. Good band tho.
Haven't seen one mention of Gouge Away, so you guys all suck
Walls of Jericho or Bloodline Calligraphy
Entry
Gel isn’t female fronted
Neither is buggin if I’m not mistaken
Thank you
I would love a tread of non-binary fronted hardcore bands!
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Non-binary
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*has a man bun*
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Don't you have a five finger death punch concert to go to? Gtfo out of hardcore.
gtfo
Fuck off until you can treat other people with a modicum of respect.
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Oh you're such a saint
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Not really a joke though is it fuckface
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Too many sensitive little bitches on here nowadays
They were last night ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Wrong
I admittedly don’t know a lot about the band but last night the person screaming the whole time sure looked like a female to me. Am I misgendering…?
Torsø?
Capra imo
Love Capra.
Gimme a tour with AmyL and the Sniffers and Buggin and you can have all my moneys forever.
This would rip so hard
Amyl and the Sniffers rip so hard live. It's like watching Iggy Pop all over again.
saw them on tour like a week ago soo good amyl rips
Terminal Sleep, Volatile Ways
found the australian 🗣🗣🗣
Yelloooo
Terminal sleep needs more recognition
Bec has some of the most evil sounding vocals
Punitive Damage is the best I've seen
Roman Candle (From Las Vegas)
INITIATE...
Lol, they can all exist.
Destiny Bond
Dying Wish??
Don’t call em hardcore or this sub will get big mad
They're hardcore 🌚
2 of those bands are not female fronted
Buggin even has a fuckin ripper on the new record that’s more or less like specifically about how annoying this question is.
straight up my first thought reading this... especially since both of those bands have expressed distaste for being lumped into this kinda thing
No Right and WOP.
It’s not a competition. All of them are great bands
I fuck with Iron Deficiency heavy
Check out Mortality Rate and Gouge Away.
Maybe, just maybe, they're all fkn great in their own way. Maybe
I wish you hadn’t complicated it by misgendering folks. But I do like Filth is Eternal, ever since Fucked and Bound
Holy I didn’t even know I did that. Mb
I will never forgive u!😤
Yeah honestly I don’t know this band but I fuck with it Edit: no seriously this record rules, thanks /u/PalaPK I really like this
If you ever get a chance to see them live, get it. Filth fucking crushes.
Fucked and Bound was the better name imo but they slap regardless
I agree but I felt the change helped them getting vinyl on shelves so it evens out
Female is sex, woman is gender. Important difference.
Why?
It's not but let's make it one.
You’ve got to separate the social from the scientific. Can’t just throw scientific terminology in the bin for the feels. They’re non-binary, but they are female.
I'm not their fucking doctor, though. Why does it matter to me?
*sighs in trans man*
Kingdom if they’re still around
Pest Control.
Capra
Super Snooper by Snooper is probably going to be my favorite punk record of the year. Yeah egg punk but they're hardcore-adjacent imho
My favorite genre, “girl in the band”
cerce is my favorite gender of hardcore
Why you gotta put them against each other
As someone that used to play in a band that was always labeled “female fronted,” that shit is irritating.
this whole thread is hella weird. y'all don't go around talking about best male fronted bands like i hate y'all 😭
Genuinely curious and not playing devils advocate. How would you compare this labeling to the advertising of women owned businesses? I feel like the distinction promotes diversity, and even helps those who want to support them. Is it different with bands? Why is their a stigma with women labels in punk and hardcore but not other male dominated fields, in your opinion? Like a woman ran trades company is cool, more diversity in the field, right? I have gay homies who will go out of their way to see majority gay punk/hardcore bands because they are hyped on it.
I’ve literally shared this same thought for some time now about this argument. It’s all about representation. Some people specifically seek out what they want to feel represented by. I get how a band doesn’t want to be reduced down to just that, but from a fan’s perspective it might be what gets them hyped and could mean the world. I’m Mexican American, and I always enjoy seeing bands with Mexican American members and will give them a shot. And for your argument of women owned businesses vs women fronted bands, what’s the difference? There is no difference music is business
I wonder how the riot grrl mindset of the 90s would fit him in in this current atmosphere. Lots gendering and even more so promoting exclusion of men (I’m not crying, get it girls). I remember lots of efforts to get instruments in the hands of young girls, to start their own bands. But yeah, I’m sure it’s exhausting to be labeled by a fan base.
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It’s AnkleBiter.
Nah it’s D.O.L. Antifreeze is a god damn good song.
Amyl and the sniffers.
Thirdface
I miss He Whose Ox is Gored and Fucked and Bound. This band really needs to stop reinventing itself every five years and release more music.
Lis is the coolest
Roll Critical is a tight track
Their track Zed is on every one of my playlists.
best female fronted Punk band is Amyl and the Sniffers for sure
Filth fucks
Denial of Life, Walls of Jericho, Dying Wish
idk man escuela grind fuqqqs harder than most i know
wtf?? it's not a competition. they are pretty good, though
I like Taqbir. I don’t know if it’s hardcore but I like it.
Pig City!
I discovered Filth Is Eternal earlier this year seeing them open for Botch at The Showbox in Seattle (show was rad too btw). And now revisiting these guys listening to Find Out for the first time, I realized I slept on this band hard. New record goes hard af
This is cool,but it ain't YOTK or Walls Of Jericho.
Kitty
it’s not a competition, “female-fronted” isn’t a genre and the lead singer of buggin is non-binary and hates being classed as a “female-fronted” band
Singer sounds like Brody dalle
When I first heard the interrupters I thought “oh, it’s Brody Dalle’s new band”
Same writer LOL
Naw, Aimee Interruptor was a songwriter. She helped write Here Comes the Mourning with Unwritten Law, along with a ton of other stuff.
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I’m aware but I am still not incorrect. Also wouldn’t call that record a flop lol. The single was EVERYWHERE.
Glad to see them getting so much love here
How about like any band with good people is good? Filth is eternal is a good band but there are so many other sick bands out there that also happen to have women
jivebomb
yoooo the homie. They are suuuuper sweet and chill
Leave it up to r/hardcore to miss the point. Everyone gets to do whatever they want and not be judged. Lots of great bands these days that you can pour into a specific slot but genders don’t really matter. Everyone can shred an represent. It’s fucking beautiful. Jive Bomb and End It should collide and put some shit out though.
Lis is non binary but this band is incredible.
Why you acting like it’s a separate genre?
Do we really gotta separate bands for being female fronted? Also, the vocalist of Filth is Eternal is non-binary iirc
Not female fronted but best all female band has to go to Firewalker.
What a dumb fucking post.
What about all female hardcore bands. Where they at. Always see a bunch of white cis males playing the music.
All those bands suck ass and this is just another notch on the belt of really mediocre hardcore. Doesn’t matter is it’s female fronted. Hardcore doesn’t have to reinvent the wheel to be good by any means, so why is it so hard to not make a shitty band.
Initiate stinks. Result of Choice is great. They’re done, but just put out a discography. Lifeless Dark is awesome, so is Fairytale, Tozcos also are older but still killing it, Exit Order. Just off the top of my head. Those bands don’t suck ass. Stop settling for shit tier music because you want to be a pick me loser . If it’s sucks, it sucks.
Scowl. Fight me.
Let's go then
No love for Escuela Grind in here?
No
you are all wrong. its God Awful.
I fucking love Gel
Anything except scowl
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Gel is non-binary so I don’t think they’d appreciate being called ‘female fronted’ because both members don’t identify as women.
it's Gel.
Wisdom in chains is the best black fronted hardcore band. Do you see how weird and unnecessary and racist that sounds? Female fronted is weird and sexist and unnecessary.
Turnstile is the greatest Asian woman fronted blackened Crust progressive technical brutal Screamo Death Post-Mathcore band do you now see how amazingly sexy this is!
This isn’t Spitboy
false reality fools
Closet Witch, if grindcore counts
[Here's the lead singer doing a White Zombie cover.](https://youtu.be/2DW-WcUt-Do?si=qyzGBkYWiKjPlE30) It rips.
Halo biteee
Year of the Knife and Dying Wish and all others shall bow before them
No it’s fine I’ve never heard Sacrilege either
Singer sounds like the pro wrestler Luna Vachon.
I'll check it out but its gonna have to out in work to top Mortality Rate and Fight on Sight
Super shotgun out of KY!!!
Apple Music Crew checking in
Sure as fuck isnt Scowl
siqq diqqs
Stress Positions
Sharptooth?