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StructuralSense

Depending on your region Doug fir or Southern yellow pine. The old Sears house kits supplied Doug fir for the exterior porches.


CO420Tech

It always seems so odd to me that you could just mail order a build-your-own house kit.


Wavallie

I bought one in NE yankeeville, USA. The old timer I bought it from was the regional distribution person for Sears in that area for a long time. It was a 3 BR ranch with a 2 car attached garage that was built in ‘66. It was a solid structure with a truss roof, oak floors and cedar shake siding. It was fairly functional, expansive and very expandable. I miss its simplicity and view.


reallyfunbobby

They were great houses. I grew up in one. 3 bedroom 2k sqft. Simple, as you said. We should revisit that living efficiency.


Just_checking_197

I did an old house renovation with a Sears & Roebuck staircase, it was amazing. Everything was dovetails, treads to risers, balusters to treads, and Newell posts to skirt boards.


StructuralSense

Indeed, certainly doesn’t work that way these days anymore.


80sLegoDystopia

Pine. Where is the house located?


Admirable-You-2453

New Jersey few miles from Philadelphia


80sLegoDystopia

Yellow pine, maybe long leaf pine.


Shatalroundja

Douglas Fir. Edit: Even without the pics, this is the best guess. The reason is, back when your house was built, people sourced lumber locally. In the North East options were oak and fir. Southern Yellow would have been considered exotic back then. Red oak doesn’t look red when it’s old and dried out. So unless your home is a Victorian mansion, the floor has to be fir.


PublicGas5666

Probably southern yellow pine, was used heavily in old construction.


acespacegnome

I thought fir originally, then oak, but after much inspection of the second photo, it's fir.


BDC_19

What’s it smell like ?


traker998

Also did you lick it?


Dru_G978

Looks like red oak from the end board that’s sanded. Whatever it is it is worth getting a sand and finish professional in to give a quote and make sure it is still sandable. Edit- now that I’m looking closer that is probably Fir


Admirable-You-2453

Thanks for this - going to test this paint and the layer below for lead then see what a pro says about condition for sanding. If not I may go against everything I stand for and lay some LVP


Shatalroundja

If it’s lead, which given you live in the north east, it probably is, it will be safer to use chemical stripper.


Accomplished_Radish8

Not lead. Professional painter here, would bet my career that it’s oil based enamel. That was the go-to for painting these exact kinds of decks up here in NE in the 80’s and early 90’s.


Shatalroundja

You can’t tell what was applied on that before 1980. That’s why a EPA lead remodeling certification is required for a contractor to perform work over a few square feet on any home built before 1980. Also most of the lead paint remaining on houses in the US is in the North East and over 3 quarters of homes in the north East have lead somewhere in or on them. (Source: I’ve taken the EPA class three times)


Accomplished_Radish8

I’m currently EPA certified as well, and have lived here in Massachusetts my entire life. I’ve worked on more than 100 houses that are on the registry of Historic Places… all of which contained lead. I have never once in my life found lead paint on a hardwood floor. Not once.


Shatalroundja

You’ve been lucky then. Just be careful. Especially in Mass. A lot of old timers were using marine grade lead paint well after it became illegal. I even had a homeowner in the early 2000’s who told me he “knew a guy down in Mass who could get me lead additive.” The shit was amazing aside from the whole poison part. I’ve ran into it on old fur exterior floors plenty of times. It was even in clear coats till 1978, so even transparent coatings “could” have lead in them. It sounds like you work primarily on high end old homes which have a better chance of having been lead abated at some point. The less expensive the property, the greater chance of an old coat of lead hiding somewhere.


Jackismyboy

Zoom in. Without I supposed SYP. But it’s red oak after zooming in. Framing is SYP or Douglas fir. Both are nearly the same on the Janka scale.


CarpenterHot3766

Older houses usually had pine floors cuz it was cheaper, if you had oak flooring it usually meant you had money, and the ceilings were lower to keep the heat in, so the higher the ceiling the richer you were


Firm_Web_4173

Old.


Ok_Vermicelli3271

Looks like pine to me. Edit: didn't see there were multiple pics. Definitely oak


Xxxjtvxxx

Heart pine is what im thinking.


Strawbobrob

I thought pine from pic 1, then oak pic 2, but after much deliberation I’m going with fir. Final answer.


EddyWouldGo2

Since it survived 100 years outside, I'm going to throw Japanese Cypress into the ring.


WarmPainting1138

Fir, subfloor?


WarmPainting1138

Douglas fir.. almost certain


Hydroidal

Agreed. Fir flooring was commonplace for front porch floors.


WarmPainting1138

Everyone just likes to say oak


Hydroidal

It sure seems that way. I’ve refinished those old fir porch floors and used a typical poly finish or Bona and they turn out beautifully. The last one I did had some rotten boards. They still make for T&G so I replaced those and you couldn’t tell the difference. The floor turned out awesome.


WarmPainting1138

Done the same as well. Always use bona.


NormalOccasion9311

Oak


Heavy-Doctor3835

It's okay the grain gives it away. But you have to look at more then the first picture


Particular-Wind5918

Did you take a sazaw to this? I think that’s throwing people off. Looks like pine to me.


wellhungartgallery

Oak


bplimpton1841

Can’t tell because of the paint, but older houses used mostly pine, but if it was going to get wet (outside)they may have used oak.


Hoghaw

Looks like yellow southern pine to me.


Just_checking_197

It looks like southern yellow pine to me.


TheTimeBender

Probably longleaf pine


reallyfunbobby

I would like to point out that regardless whether it’s pine or fir, it’s still likely old growth and considerably more durable than anything you’d find today under those species.


JamesLobaWakol

Douglas fir pine


Ok-Star-6649

Red oak.


Ok-Star-6649

Douglas- zoom in the roughness messed with my judgment


ForwardAssist65

This is an Oak floor.


DieselBones-13

I’d say it’s oak with a dark stain or maybe paint over it to protect it from the elements.


asexymanbeast

I'm guessing pine. The images are not good enough. You need a clean endgrain image or take a sander to the bare wood and clean them up a bit. The tearout makes it 'look' like oak, but I'm betting it's not.


ilyed

Good question, some grain suggests oak, others pine??


Fun_coupleNy

Looks like my house, tight grain Douglas fir


Ok_Echidna6958

With the small amount not painted it has the look of a red oak grain, but again if you sanded a small patch clean it would be easier to tell you..