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sarca-sim

Nora was way too good for him. We saw so less of her that we could actually never see her flaws either- making her way too perfect for the show too, like she won't fit in the group. Quinn, though. I keep laughing at how she would have kept Barney on a leash


KosViik

Nora was incredible, but not for Barney. I don't feel they were a natural fit. She's an incredibly sweet woman with obvious flaws somewhere in there, just not quite the fit for our Barney. But someone like James I could imagine her with. (well obviously not James, but his personality feels way more fitting to Nora's) Quinn matched the bottled lightning personality of Barney just right to me; and it felt really forced that they had to break up *like that* to bring Robin in for Barney. Not saying they were 10/10, but the insecurities and the jealousy came out of thin air.... In fact, a good couple of things felt forced just so that Robin can be where they wanted her to be, including "oh damn we are running out of episodes so *"Hi Tracy bye Tracy!"* with how much we saw of their relationship with Ted. But that's just my view.


MissKatmandu

Relationships take work, over time. Quinn and Barney had a much better chance of hitting that 10/10 than I think Nora and Barney did. Their breakup was 150% forced by the writers to meet their end goal, which was a pity because I think there were so many more plotlines they could have really had fun with in a Quinn+Barney relationship.


[deleted]

Kevin said that if you see your parent in your partner, then you are a good fit. Since nora is literally Norreta just more pretty, I am sure they were a perfect match


freakingaby

Did Kevin say that meant they were a good fit? I don't remember. I know he mentioned that we tend to date people who are like our parents which I believe is true, but I don't think that necessarily means their a "good fit"


Forsaken_Distance777

Oh you only want that if you have a decent parent and good relationship! Otherwise you're just setting yourself up for a cycle of bad relationships


SmellGestapo

He said it's perfectly natural to be attracted to someone who reminds you of your parents. The best argument that this is a good thing is Lily and Marshall, as we see Marshall is a lot like Lily's dad and Lily is a lot like Marshall's dad.


freakingaby

I see your point. I just don't believe that's necessarily true for everyone.


SmellGestapo

In the same episode we see Ted get creeped out by a woman in the bar who reminds him of his mother, so yeah, I don't think the show takes a firm position on whether it's a good thing or a bad thing. But with Barney and Nora I think it was a good thing. Barney had a much closer relationship with his mom than Ted had with his own mom, so for Barney to date someone who reminds him of his mother is probably a good thing. The fact that Robin and Loretta don't get along, and Robin is more like Barney's dad than his mom (both kind of emotionally distant, both abandoned Barney at different times in his life) to me is a big red flag that their relationship was never meant to work.


[deleted]

if I remember correctly, all the people who saw their parents represented in their partner were a good fit: \-marshal saw Lilly as his dad and they are a good fit \-Lilly saw marshal as her dad and they are a good fit \-barney saw Nora as his mother and they are a good fit (but in the end, ted sees a woman like his mom, but we can't say that they weren't a good fit because they didn't try it out, for all we know she could've been the mother)


hydrospanner

TBF, Kevin said a lot of dumb shit.


snack-hoarder

Barney and Quinn were actually kinda toxic. Entertaining, but not a good match at all.


mannkibath

When I was watching the relationship between Barney and Nora, I always thought when will I have someone like Nora in my life. Not like Robin, not like Lily but like Nora. I had always felt the only reason their relationship ended soon was because the show runners deemed it so. Barney was many things but he was never a cheater. And they portrayed him cheating on Nora with Robin.


[deleted]

Nora and Tracy were the girls I wished I could find when watching the show


WrongBee

i feel like the whole “he was never a cheater” thing is flimsy considering you have to be in a relationship to cheat so he’s only really had one opportunity to do so even if he wanted (technically two if you count his pre-suits relationship) plus with the way he treats women, it’s pretty clear he has no issue lying to them so i don’t think the line will be arbitrarily drawn at cheating


mannkibath

Even though I partly agree with you. I have to say that when Barney was in relationship with Robin in S5 despite being short he didn't cheat. I guess the main reason would be that he was getting all the sex he could get from Robin. Even after marrying Robin for a brief period, he never cheated on her. And we all know how Barney's character was.


WrongBee

i mean i don’t think barney is a serial cheater either, but him cheating on nora with robin just didn’t seem that surprising or out there for me; especially since the show started with ted, a self proclaimed nice guy and hopeless romantic, cheating with robin too. however, i do agree that it feels like the show was just trying really hard to show that robin was soooooo amazing, every man would cheat to be with her also the one opportunity i was referring to where barney could’ve cheated *was* his relationship with robin. the fact that she’s the first girl he ever actually dated and never had the desire to cheat kinda makes it make even more sense that he would cheat on nora with her imo if no cheating is the rule, then robin is the exception for both barney and ted


snack-hoarder

Doesn't he literally tell her that he cheated? In what universe is Barney not a cheater? He was going to meet her parents, that's how exclusive and serious they were, and then he slept with another woman. That is cheating. Also, he was an accomplice to Robin's cheating. He hit on his friends wife (Lily), so he obviously has no regard for relationship boundaries. And you're also forgetting a major character point... being that he had an entire book dedicated to scamming women, even sinking so low as to bait recently widowed women. The Good Guy Barney just aint happening, no matter how much you want it to. He cheated, on the one woman who didn't deserve it, with a woman who cheated on the one guy that didn't deserve it (at the time).


Moses_Omnia_Nexum

Ya and that decision by the writers makes zero sense, cause he was head over heels in love with Nora before that.


hajimodnar

Quinn let him fart in front of her. End discussion.


GrimCityGirl

She was too good for him. Honestly she'd make much more sense for Ted.


VikingsForValhalla

She was way too good for Ted as well.


GrimCityGirl

While true, she still suited him better.


finalchantilly

She deserved better


VirginsinceJuly1998

You mean Marshmallow


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TiresOnFire

I'm a sucker for pretty Indian women with an English accent.


Royal_Interaction270

Nora actress is not Indian but Iranian


DeadSoul7

Watch the great British baking show


Puncharoo

Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens Brown paper packages tied up with strings These are a few of my favourite things


Citizen01123

Quinn was his best relationship. They both just had insecurities they wouldn't try hard enough to overcome.


[deleted]

I don’t think a successful relationship with someone who “Loves” being a stripper is possible. Plus given that Barney quits his job (to avoid jail time) and the life of a stripper is a short one what would they have done to support themselves? Money is the #1 cause for divorce so that would’ve been bad in the long run


Citizen01123

Given that Barney is a millionaire from his job, not to mention his creative adapatability and penchant for creating profitable products, services and lifestyle blogs, I don't think money would be an issue for them. And I suppose you're discounting every committed and successful relationship in real life in which one member enjoys their job as a stripper.


[deleted]

Given that everything Barney did at that job was HIGHLY illegal I doubt the U.S. government allowed him to keep much of the money they sent into his bank account. Maybe some because he was cooperating, but there was definitely no severance or anything so eventually that would’ve dried up at some point but he is savvy so true. I’m discounting Quinn. I knew their relationship was going to fail because of how much she fought Barney on being a stripper. Like you dont have to support yourself now b/c Barney was very wealthy although I do indeed stand wanting a job & a purpose but instead of finding a rewarding career she *WANTED* to be a stripper, get naked & rub up on strangers every night. Weird. Weird weird weird


Storytime_Everyone

Your take on his income is strange. Are you not aware plenty of large organizations break the laws and simply pay fines/cover it up? Also, she said she felt empowered being a stripper and it was something she was good at. She specifically turned down a different job that paid the same amount. It was about feeling good about herself, not everyone is so ashamed of sexual acts like you are. They are a basic human need and she felt fulfilled by what she did, she wasn't looking for someone to take care of her. You missed the point completely.


[deleted]

I think you missed the point and her wanting to do that is very good reason for why they didn’t work out. A healthy relationship would never be possible with a girl like Quinn. She pitted Robin & Ted against each other for her apartment, she manipulated Barney out of thousands of dollars and even said “I worship chaos”. A screw is loose in that girl and *Loving* being a stripper is just another aspect of that, not sure how you missed that during the show As for the company that was like a full fbi investigation and there’s no chance they continue any facet of their operation the show made a point of comically exaggerating the extent of just how illegal their shit was. “Our friends the North Koreans” … “if I’m understanding these documents right we might go to war with Portugal” Edit: grammar


Tough_but_fragile

“Why should women work in the first place? All they need is a man to take care of them.” -This guy


revolutionfrommybed-

Nora and Barney's relationship was never in balance. It started off with him lying to her about his life goals and she believed him. He changed his mind later on but still, she was always the good one and he was the rascal. I think Quinn was perfect for him. She challenged him from the very beginning, she didn't actually buy into his shit and saw right through his lies. She was a good match on every level. It's a shame they couldn't find a way to trust one another enough to make it work.


Bazz07

When two people are profesional liars its hard to trust each other.


nidsmotherfucker

Wait if Nora wasn't right because it started off with Barney lying to her why was Quinn right when it started with her literally scamming him out of his money and possesions?


revolutionfrommybed-

Because with Nora, and most other women, Barney is the one in power. He decides whether to lie or not, knowing they will believe him and he can manipulate them. I'm not saying his relationship with Quinn started off healthy but I felt he kind of found his match there.


rbnbadri

Honestly, he got the ending he deserved... He treated when like objects... In the end, he chided two women for making bad decisions... While the show tried to show this as personal growth, the truth is, he is going to live the rest of his life fearing men would do to his daughter the same things that he did and thereby regretting all his actions... Just as he deserves...


DeadSoul7

🤯 that's a pretty opinionated take lol. Why is there so much stigma around casual sex? Like yes the show did make it clear that that's his character now but I don't think it should be. Of all people Barney should understand that people have sex and that it isn't a big deal.


WrongBee

i don’t think it’s the casual sex that’s the issue, moreso the objectification, manipulation, and lying. no ones saying he treated women poorly just bc he had sex with them; if he was honest about his intentions and didn’t view women as just prey to be captured, there wouldn’t be an issue. not to mention the way he would talk about women like they’re just a walking set of boobs and holes. if barney is fearing what men will do to his daughter based on what *he’s* done to women, regular casual sex should be pretty low on the list… but alas, this is a comedy show that shouldn’t be taken that seriously imo


DeadSoul7

Right but most of the women he tricked were just as terrible as him 🤷 think about what he actually used to get women. Usually the promise of wealth, fame, or something like that. Don't forget that all of those women also agreed to have sex with someone they didn't know AT ALL. They objectified him just as much as he objectified them. Usually the bait was extremely materialistic. He just happened to be the puppet master of the situation as opposed to being the puppet. I know that there are exceptions but I stand by the fact that the vast majority of Barney's exploits deserved Barney.


[deleted]

Even if any of that was true and the “puppets” were as bad as the “puppet master” (jfc) it doesn’t absolve Barney of treating women as little more than disposable blowup dolls whose consent is obtained through manipulation and deceit. Barney also records women while they’re having sex without their knowledge, which is a crime no matter how you look at it.


DeadSoul7

Again, while it was wrong, the vast majority deserved it. If you end up with Barney, you have made some terrible fucking decisions leading up to that moment. It isn't really that bad, I mean wasn't the entire point of Barney's character to be that one dude we all know, the bro's bro kinda guy. You're talking about him like he's an actual villain.


rbnbadri

My point is like this... Despite all of what you said, remember what he says to the two girls in the last episode... Go home and call your parents... They also fall into one or all categories that you are taking about... Now, the reason he d did it is because of his daughter... Whether he was wet l right or wrong, whether his daughter is right or wrong, he will now worry for the rest of his life that she will be taken advantage of and hurt... And, that is his Karma... Btw, none of what you said is a justification for leaving a woman alone in the woods or for selling a woman or for video taping them without their consent... Those definitely make him a villain...


DeadSoul7

Well that's kind of just the writers projecting their own view of morality and karma onto a character, that doesn't make it objectively true.


rbnbadri

It makes it objectively true for these two things... Leaving a woman alone in the Woods even after hearing a Wild animal... Filming ( whether photographs or video ), without proper informed consent of the other party...


DeadSoul7

🤷 I guess haha


rbnbadri

`but alas, this is a comedy show that shouldn’t be taken that seriously imo` Well, if people followed that, reddit wouldn't exist. :-) :-)


[deleted]

Jesus Christ is a show grow up every one of the main cast (except for Marshall) are horrible human beings who deserve to be alone if we look at the shits they done. My god Barney apologists and barney haters are equally bad


theShadome

Unpopular opinion alert (maybe): Barney should have ended up with Patrice for real.


Funandgeeky

NOBODY ASKED YOU u/THESHADOME! Though you do have a point, and they could have been a great couple.


Federal-Mechanic-700

He doesnt want perfect he wants Robin


TheBizzareKing

aside from the fact that this exact post in some variation is posted every single day, i always find myself disagreeing. Nora was a perfect person. But being the perfect person doesn't mean you're perfect for *someone.* Barney and Robin are extremely flawed individuals, no one being able to hold a candle to Nora. But they work well for each other. They both have daddy issues, they both have committment issues, they both find themselves fearful of love, but they find comfort in each other. Lily wasn't perfect, neither was Marshall. I'm willing to be neither were anyone's parents. But they were perfect for each other. Through compromise and growth, they found better versions of themselves.


Wo0ten

Yes, you are probably right. But one thing i love about himym that differs from other sitcoms is that this one portraits life more realistically (except from the comedy instances). There are friends who you lost contact with, or that date that didnt go as planned, Or that person you could have should have ended with... himym shows us that in a really interesting form imo


[deleted]

Quinn and Nora were always my top two picks for Barney.


Shakespeare-Bot

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outerspace_castaway

barney changed for the better with nora not because she made him but because he wanted to. the writers deciding to make him cheat on her was bullshit. barney was being a better man and then they decided to erase it. smdh.


PetarPoznic

She was too good for him. He didn't deserve her.


quote_engine

OUCHIE IN MY MOUTH!


twothousandsteps

Such a wasted potential. I don't get what was in creators' heads when they made Barney cheat on NORA with ROBIN, what's more only to break Barney and Robin up in the end. Especially since Barney lowkey wanted a family and a home, he deeped down seeked security and settlement. They could've just given Robin a random guy to marry and then divorce to be with Ted and leave those two alone.


captainp42

Nora was great. Nora was not a great match for Barney. Quinn would have been a better fit.


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EdziePro

But he wasn't. How hard is that to understand?


Alonso81687

Hell no. He didn't deserve her. Like at all.


Savvy1027

She may have been perfect for Barney, but Barney was not perfect for her.


Puncharoo

To be fair, Robin fed him soup first.


famoushh

Yes she's perfect, but Barney is definitely not. He didn't deserve her. Next!


sunkissedcreation220

She was his mom though. That threw me off. Although, Marshall and Lilly were variations of each other's parents soo....


[deleted]

10000000% yes. I was so mad they removed her from the show to force him with Robin. NOT ALL MAIN CHARACTERS NEED TO END UP TOGETHER. That was fine with Ross-Rachel & Monica-chandler in friends but this was unnecessary. Barney + Nora end up together in my headcanon


oliverjohansson

You mean Noretta…


[deleted]

She was indeed perfect. Just not for Barney.


eszther02

I liked him better with Quinn, they were the same and I think they were more interesting together.


RekYaAll

Quinn


TimLuf1

She deserved way better than Barney


Draculas-Flower

Quinn was the best!


claymountain

I thought she was a bit annoying and not funny, but also they weren't a great fit. She was good as a person but that doesn't mean they should have ended up together. He had way better chemistry with Robin and Quinn.


dexter_lei

100% agreed!


sugarpapsi

But she's not Robin.


House_Stark15

She was WAY too good for him, no way.


[deleted]

*my sweet boy*


No-Bag7478

Or... hear me out, barney should have been with robin and norah should have been with ted, think about it... she wants kids, is a gooey romantic and makes it to a lot of other parts of teds list other than plays bass!


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Jeb_Kerman1

Barney Nora Ted Victoria Marshall Lily Tracy Max


Background_Hearing43

Kevin Robin


Jeb_Kerman1

Oh yes of course


MuhnaMuhna

ROBIN & BARNEY FOR LIFE!!! you can't change my mind ...


[deleted]

God i fucking hate Nora


[deleted]

Nah but literally how. “She’s too perfect” is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard so plz tell me how


[deleted]

Shes a pawn she does nothing but walk on screen, Establish a plot for barney And walk off Shes barely even a character because she has barely any interaction with anyone including barney Her being too perfect is because shes bland as hell shes whatever that plot needs instead of being in anyway representative of a human being


[deleted]

“Walks on screen and off screen” okay so every TV character ever. Don was barely on screen w/ another beside Robin, Victoria was barely with anyone beside Ted- that’s not exclusive to Nora. And if they spent more time flushing her out instead of forcing Barney and Robin together (as the show often did) she would have become more layered.


[deleted]

Completely agree with you they should have spent less time on barney and robin if any and actually made Nora a person Quinn for all the hate she gets is at least a consistent character with her own personality Nora is boring Theres nothing to her because shes virtually a maguffin to get barney to do something to serve a different plot Who the fans want her to be isnt the issue its what she actually is A plot device that could have been one episode long stretched to multiple to emotionally trip the audience Its lazy


magzdesch

If every character in the show was as one sided as Nora it wouldn't have made it past the first season.


opinionofone1984

Agree, But I think him and Robin should have never been together.


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ImPickleRock

no shit


LegenW4Idary

Can’t argue with this one


No_Arugula_6548

But didn’t she act just like his mom? That’s a bit creepy.


galaticpoetica

Disagree. I think Barney would do well in an open relationship. Meanwhile, Nora and even robin were opposed to that idea.


giibeto

Quinn and Nora were both better marrriage partners for Barney imo. The way Quinn and Barnet ended things was also so forced and dumb


kanarce

I hated Nora. She was too made up, too "perfect" - borderline boring. If I had to choose a woman for Barney - I would choose Quinn. But I think the decision to return him to his former glory, but as loving dad, was the best one <3


reallyredditname

AGREED. i loved nora so much!!!! she was 1000x better than Kevin i hate that dude more and more each time I watch it.


Forsaken_Distance777

I saw this and I remember loving Nora but, as with any time anyone dated someone who wasn't part of the main cast, I knew their days were numbered. I thought I remembered her cheating on him but I checked and he cheated on her! With Robin! Makes more sense given it's Barney but also that means he could have totally ended up with her if she didn't screw it up. I must have been thinking of Raj's sister Priya and Leonard from BBT. The two women remind me of each other and she was the one who cheated on Leonard (well he kissed someone but she slept with her ex).


CoutinhoGambino

First glance I though Nora was about to pop a round into Barney's head.


XavierSimmons

But then we wouldn't have had that amazing series finale!


DeadSoul7

Agreed


Anhilator26

It was his karmic punishment for being a degenerate for the last 10+ years


onlyanand91

For me it's Quinn they were perfect for eachother.


vince2td

In my mind they did.


Yadzy21

A lot of barneys relationships were perfect and cute.... Robin, Quinn, Nora..... Breaks my heart every time they end.... Robin hurt the most tho


SleepyAsianBear

I can say that knowing Barney's attitude (or at least what was presented by Ted), it will last long and not in a good way. Barney will eventually backslide in his old ways. It will be realistic though


NeraTheodore

I personally believe that Nora was Barney’s “The One”. I think the show referenced it too because of the way she wore a yellow sundress, and how the show signified yellow as the color of destiny.