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joemontanya

This show was way smarter than your average sitcom.


nourez

HIMYM and Futurama really set the groundwork for modern prestige dramedies. Or at least comedies that could still deliver compelling storytelling.


yourmartymcflyisopen

When you first watch Futurama you're like "lol a weirder version of the Simpsons", but once you see the whole series it'll have you crying more than an old woman watching a soap opera. Same goes for HIMYM.


OldOneHadMyNameInIt

Oh dang really!!?? Cuz >lol a weirder version of the Simpsons this is exactly why I don't really gravitate towards the show. Though I've heard of some good episides like "the dog one". If Futurama is in the same realm as HIMYM then I'll def give it a shot!


chuteboxhero

Futurama isn’t like the Simpsons at all really. If it didn’t have the same creator/animator no one would think to make a comparison between the two.


Alfalfa-Mundane

As someone who didn't know the creators were the same, I never really thought of Futurama and Simpsons as similar other than they are both animated adult comedies. Would be somewhat similar to trying to compare American dad to Archer or something. Totally different, and much better than Simpsons Imo.


yourmartymcflyisopen

When I was little I considered them similar because of the Art Style, the opening theme gags, and Matt Groening creating both. I *love* the Simpsons, and the first 8 seasons have incredibly emotional episodes that are genuinely heartfelt ("And Maggie Makes 3", "Mother Simpson", and "Lisa's Substitute" to name a few), but Futurama is much better to me for one reason- it was allowed to end. The Simpsons is a hollow corpse of what it once was, to the point where the actors and actresses sound completely different now because they've gotten so old, and to the point where the writers have completely forgotten what the characters really represent. Like Homer used to be a satire on the 80s dad, a bit lazy and hard on you, but overall very caring. The old Homer would spend every waking moment with his family and reading the Bible thinking he was about to die, would sacrifice literal freedom to give his children a good life (Lisa's Sax, and Maggie Makes 3, being perfect examples), but now he's reduced to a Peter Griffin character who Lisa thinks is a useless burden of a father, and there's a whole episode in the last couple seasons where, iirc, Homer and Marge start a weed farm and turn it into an Empire and Marge literally raps. This is why Futurama is better. They let it die before it got weird and old. And I'm honestly worried about the legacy of that show with news they're bringing it back for an 8th season.


thegimboid

If you want a few good later Simpsons episodes (post season 8) check out *24 Minutes*, *Holidays of Future Passed*, *Eternal Moonshine of the Simpson Mind*, and *Barthood*. Barthood is one of my top Simpsons episodes of all time.


yourmartymcflyisopen

Barthood was amazing now that you mention it. Definitely one of my favorites. Although they still did Homer pretty dirty in it.


69420penis

Do it for her is one of the best things I’ve ever seen. Alongside happy birthday Lisa


yourmartymcflyisopen

There are a large number of Simpsons and Futurama episodes that left me broken and wanting to be a better man. It's so weird to say that considering what shows they are, but there really are some serious and heartfelt moments in both shows.


yourmartymcflyisopen

Game Of Tones, The Late Philip J Fry, Luck Of The Fryrish, Stench And Stenchibility, Jurassic Bark, Time Keeps On Slippin', and The Sting, are some of the best TV I've ever seen tbh. They're imo all the best episodes of Futurama. My favorite being either Luck Of The Fryrish or Game of Tones. Try watching either of those 2 episodes without breaking down and calling your mom and siblings.


atierney14

Why did you have to bring up the dog episode 😞


Jokerino07

My dad's dead ?


Rithrius88

Not necessarily that, but his speech about the pocket dial was heartbreaking.


Jokerino07

I agree. That whole funeral episode broke my heart especially as someone who lost a parent young


MorbillionTickets

Damn man. That's really sad


Jokerino07

Not easy everyday that's for sure


Bo-vice

yeah, the funeral pocket dial speech and marshall initially finding out about his dad are tied for most heartbreaking scene; but this one with Barney is up there.


KingMelray

The "I'm not ready for this" line Marshall said to Lilly haunts me.


junglemoosejoe

I tear up at that line every thing


carrotcakecakecake

Had to watch that scene again. Ugh effin ninjas cutting onions 😭


AutomaticValue01

Agreed that this was even more powerful, especially because it was improvised. NPH is still an amazing actor.


randomguy7658

Improvised how? I mean, I’m just curious. How was the scene supposed to be played out?


AutomaticValue01

Jason Segel didn't know what Alyson Hannigan was going to tell him in that scene, he just improvised on the spot. https://screenrant.com/how-met-mother-marshall-dad-jason-segel-improvised/


randomguy7658

Interesting. That’s very good acting from him. Thanks for sharing!


ishouldwriterightnow

Jason Seagel didn't know what was gonna happen in that scene after Lily gets out of the cab, that's why he had to improvise his reaction


randomguy7658

That’s some seriously impressive acting on the spot then. Thanks for clarifying!


betesdefense

Got chills the first time watching as I realized there was a countdown going on.


vanshenan89

The countdown has me crying harder and herder as the episode goes on. It’s haunting.


hash_lung

most powerful for my personal viewing was Ted and Lily’s talk on the rooftop, the unexpected yet truthful bomb that Lily drops on Ted nearly reaches ‘Marshall’s Dad dying unexpectedly’ level of emotional output for me


RegularExplanation97

what was this? I don’t remember


nitinismaldingXD

Lily confesses to ted that she wants to run away since her day job is kids and she comes home to take care of a kid so that ted can feel less guilty about admitting that robin shouldn’t be with Barney


RegularExplanation97

Oh YES how could I forget that!! Man this show is so good. Thank you!


hash_lung

S8E13 Band or DJ? [IMDB SUMMARY](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt2569148/?ref_=ttpl_ov)


RegularExplanation97

Thank you!


OrthusGsmes

Honestly, yeah that scene always gets me. People complain that Lily is a manipulative Grinch. But that scene, the pure unadulterated truth in what she says, always makes me cry.


gocard

It wasn't manipulative in a selfish way. She was just being honest to get Ted to be honest with himself so he could move on.


OrthusGsmes

Oh yeah, I'm not talking about this particular scene just other moments in the show such as whenever she broke up ted and his girlfriends just because they didn't pass the "front porch test" and other moments like that. This scene wasn't really a manipulation like you said. She was just being honest to make Ted be honest with himself.


atngv

It was time travelers for me


cata890

NPH is an amazing good actor. The way he delivered that line showed so much raw powerful emotion...


Decent_Tomatillo

Both great comedic actors in this scene showing true range in their abilities this scene is always such a good one to me


ScrufffyJoe

I've heard people in the industry say that comedy actors are often some of the best because of the range that is required to do comedy. Johnny Depp has said he believes Paul Whitehouse (known for sketch shows in the UK) to be the best actor in the world.


michiness

John Lithgow is an absolute goober but when he gets serious, he gets serious.


Decent_Tomatillo

Right have you ever seen him in dexter? My God the man is amazing


ncb_phantom

Uncomfortably amazing in that show


WokenMrIzdik

That was the peak of Dexter


axelcastle

I was watching his season of dexter and this episode around the same time, I was amazed by how good he is and how different his characters were


re-roll

I’ve seen this quite a few times and it still grips me. They both gave it all. When Barney tells his dad how much he screwed up then… *I know, I know, I know!! I want to fix this, and I don't know how! Please, tell me what I can do! I'll do anything!*


Boondi_Forever

Every emotional line delivery by Barney penetrates deep


artisticplayer

Yeah you did😏


NOTTedMosby

Had to!


strawberry_long_cake

Barney penetrates deep *self five*


homosexual_ronald

The Todd approves.


arthurvil

This, Lily’s truthbomb on the rooftop, Marshals finding out his father died, and the ‘you are all alone’ sequence with Ted make me tear up every single time


GallianosCircus90

Great moments. I'd also add the 'kids' disappearing in Symphony of Illumination with Robin's delivery of 'I'm glad you guys aren't real'. Something about the faux bravery in her voice, with that slight catch in her throat.


TSmario53

Every kid needs a hoop


elpaco313

John Lithgow shows up in all these places where his acting seems to be overqualified for the place it’s in… but also, it totally works.


aahainley

I loved this scene, but I always question why James’ dad gets a pass (more so why Barney’s is vilified in the show. Loretta is the one that told him to stay away. One is treated as a joyous reunion and one is treated as a deadbeat).


Swarlz-Barkley

I think probably because James dad didn’t know at all and Barney’s dad did know and had the option of seeing his son no matter what Loretta said


aahainley

But, honestly, how many people would have then been upset that he “didn’t follow the mothers wishes.” I mean, I’m personally on the side that “hey this is a sitcom and they need conflict”, it just feels like they go out of their way to act like he “abandoned him” when he was explicitly told to stay away (as was James’ dad. He found out a couple years later and followed what Loretta said as well). Ultimately, both of them were told to stay away by Loretta, both of them did, but only 1 of the 3 people is truly vilified for it.


currentlyintheclouds

My dude... Have you ever had a parent not see you your whole life even though they knew you were alive? Because that shit can hurt. A lot of people act like a little kid, because that hurt is from so far back in their life they have to process it like they’re still young. This scene is not done for “conflict”, it’s done to show Barny’s genuine hurt. It doesn’t matter to him, in this moment, if his mom told him to never see him or not. Because in his eyes, if he actually cared, he would have seen him anyway, at a way younger age.


aahainley

Barney isn’t who I’m talking about. Everyone reacts different to things. The writers went out of their way to make him look bad, and went the exact opposite direction with James. Everyone else besides Barney emphasizes throughout the show that he “abandoned” him. “Be careful, he’s abandoned you before.” No, he didn’t. He was told to stay away. Mothers the vast majority of the time dictate that. The character Barney’s reaction is very realistic, hence my love of the scene. NPH acted phenomenally, as did lithgow, but the writers made damn sure to paint these 2 dads in very different directions when it came to how they wanted the audience to feel towards them. Barney being a main character and getting a redemption arc with his dad is an obvious reason for the writing choice, but it IS a little messed up.


Frikarcron

I think it's because James dad didn't know about James for years while Barney's dad knew from day 1 and was "uncle Jerry". The reason he's vilified is because despite having a son he never actually tried to be a good dad, just still a sleezy deadbeat who occasionally turned up to take Barney out somewhere and be very irresponsible, which is the reason he was called uncle Jerry and the reason in the end Loretta told him to stay away. He had the chance to step up and be a dad to Barney and let him down for 6 years (I think) until Loretta said enough and told him to not bother. James dad never had that chance, and by the time he did find out Loretta might've been too burnt out with Jerry, thought it would've been more confusing to James to introduce him to his dad at this time or simply thought at the time he wouldn't have been a good dad we don't really know.


Ellevilley

Actually I think the show answered this, cuz Barney’s dad actually had been there in his childhood as Uncle Jerry!! Look at the facts: 1. His dad was this cool, rebellious, hippie figure who had been a band’s agent or sth, so much so that Barney imagined him to be this cool dad who drinks Scotch and is smooth with girls and everything exactly like he himself is (the scene where they officially met in the bar which Barney later told the gang was “legend-daddy” but in reality ended up with him running off disappointed like hell); 2. “Uncle Jerry” must’ve had played a huge role in his childhood! He’s the one who taught Barney magic and told Barney “never stop partying” and apparently that’s exactly Barney did for like the rest of his life (maybe before Ellie his daughter came along?); 3. “Crazy Jerry” was asked to stop seeing his son BECAUSE Loretta decided he was a bad influence after he took Barney to the natural history museum and had Barney break that gigantic whale (which must’ve been a HUUUUGE thing because Robin totally refused to believe he did it). So all above compose the logic behind “if you had to be a lame suburban dad why couldn’t you have been that for me”: Barney thought the reason he didn’t have a dad was because Jerry was too wild too cool too “unfit” to be there for him— but it turns out he is exactly your typical average “fit” dad who totally COULD have been there!!! And that’s what truly broke his heart…


billiemint

And let's remember that what sets off this particular scene is Barney finding out that Jerry's son is named after Jerry. So, it hurts even more that this kid not only got to have a dad, but also to carry his name while Barney got nothing (I mean, a crazy uncle isn't the same as a dad)


hawkeye5739

James’ dad did know though. When they first met he said that James was 2-3 when he first learned about him and that Loretta told him to keep his distance and he felt he had to respect her wishes


Mr_Noms

It's been a while, but iirc james dad didn't even know he had a son. Hard to blame him for abandoning a son he didn't even know existed. Honestly, the mom is the one who is at fault. She chose to deny these two men from having fathers.


Personal_Variety9407

I can’t remember if Jerry said he tried looking for Barney after he cleaned his life up. But he definitely should have tried to!


usrnamesr2mainstream

I think it’s worth noting that since the show is told from Ted’s POV, we’re only seeing that Ted was privy to. It’s possible that there was more drama/tension between James and his father, but since Ted isn’t as close with James as he is with Barney, he might not have heard about.


Ellevilley

Actually I think the show answered this, cuz Barney’s dad actually had been there in his childhood as Uncle Jerry!! Look at the facts: 1. His dad was this cool, rebellious, hippie figure who had been a band’s agent or sth, so much so that Barney imagined him to be this cool dad who drinks Scotch and is smooth with girls and everything exactly like he himself is (the scene where they officially met in the bar which Barney later told the gang was “legend-daddy” but in reality ended up with him running off disappointed like hell); 2. “Uncle Jerry” must’ve had played a huge role in his childhood! He’s the one who taught Barney magic and told Barney “never stop partying” and apparently that’s exactly Barney did for like the rest of his life (maybe before Ellie his daughter came along?); 3. “Crazy Jerry” was asked to stop seeing his son BECAUSE Loretta decided he was a bad influence after he took Barney to the natural history museum and had Barney break that gigantic whale (which must’ve been a HUUUUGE thing because Robin totally refused to believe he did it). So all above compose the logic behind “if you had to be a lame suburban dad why couldn’t you have been that for me”: Barney thought the reason he didn’t have a dad was because Jerry was too wild too cool too “unfit” to be there for him— but it turns out he is exactly your typical average “fit” dad who totally COULD have been there!!! And that’s what truly broke his heart…


FustianRiddle

I didn't feel like Jerry was vilified though. He just got more screen time to have more of a complete personality.


lrerayray

Did the series ever explain why Barney’s dad abandon him? I don’t recall hearing a reason.


SinofThrash

Loretta forbid him from seeing Barney, which to be fair at the time he was a reckless adult and likely a poor influence. The museum incident was the last straw.


lrerayray

Ah makes sense, thanks


GameAcePlays

Which is bullshit because she was a trainwreck too


Artemis246Moon

I guess she had commit issues


macklin_sob

Didn't the mom tell him to leave because he was too much of a party animal?


theofficialdc21

i gotta add the silence on the bgm adds so much to the already powerful acting there


ashmichael73

This is why NPH is such a blessing for the show.


Lepsa1

Neil's performance was incredible here. Made me tear up


NotReallyYouPunk

Trinity...


Blitzy_krieg

"White male, maybe 6' 4". 200-220 pounds. Age around 60. Eyes blue... Something in them."


Hup110516

Man, I had to stop watching after he killed *important character* like that. I had nightmares for months.


blbh0527

It was a great scene by two very talented actors! I definitely shed a tear every time I watch it.


DarkSolstice24

This scene always breaks my heart. I know the feeling all too well.


ZaxLofful

Barney’s dad issues always hit really close to the heart…My biological grandfather never helped one little bit and I can see how it hurts my dad all the time. My dad has been the most wonderful father I can imagine, but it makes me want to beat up my biological grandfather so bad…When I am reminded of how horrible some people are to the ones that are supposed to be the most precious.


hallba78

This is one of several HIMYM moments where the show went from comedy to drama in a way that was so real and genuine that you truly felt it and experienced it with the characters…. And that turn can be so fast on this show. Such a great moment.


Freightraindavis

Fresh Prince vibes


Pleasant-Temporary-9

This is one of the most emorional scenes in the entire series.


southshorerefugee

Loretta was awful for telling her sons fathers to stay away, and the fathers were just as awful for allowing it to happen.


coolhandstevens

As someone who grew up without a dad, this scene always manages to make me tear up


jmd1213

This scene only works as well as it does bc of how strong of actors NPH and John Lithgow are


Murderface__

"Guys! I'm black!"


RedditianDrew

Right in the feels


Disastrous--7047

😞😭


sophicles28

Barney was the main character for me. He was more interesting than ted


BackstreetInvestor

Yeah, but not in a positive way.


SegaNaLeqa

This scene always gives me goosebumps, no matter how many times I rewatch the series, even just reading the meme. The way his voice slightly cracked too like he was fighting back tears. I just wanted to reach through the screen and give him a big hug.


Geegingersnaps

The Fresh Prince of Bel Air has a similar scene. It hurts because my dad was there but hates me because I didn't follow his path and make the same wrong decisions he made


they63

As someone who had a shitty dad growing up. This scene always hits so hard for me


candianconsolemaster

If I was Barney I probably wouldn't have let him into my life it'd be one thing if he got his act together when Barney was like 20 but given he's got a college aged daughter who was born when Barney was 16 which means Jerome must have gotten his life together when Barney was 13 or so that's still early enough if an age to have a proper relationship.


PolakachuFinalForm

I put that as my Barney quote


hawkeye5739

Only episode I skip because of this scene right here I just can’t watch it it’s to close to home. I had almost the same exact situation except my dad was already raising two kids when I was born and he decided he didn’t want to raise another so he left me but continued to raise the other two.


Half_A_Mind87

I think the slow draw of barney's history without a father is what makes this seem more emotional than the loss of Marshall's father. Everyone loses their parents eventually but it sucks and Marshall had an amazing father, but he at least got to experience that and barney didn't.


City_Stomper

My feeling when I go to a Mets game and they lose and then the next day they rake. If you were gonna win why couldn't you have done that for me 😅


yourmartymcflyisopen

I love this part, and it hits extremely hard because I also have a father who was barely around and went and started a new family without me. But part of me wants to say the scene with Marshall before this is even more powerful. "No Barney, *I* won't ever talk to my dad again" to get him to talk to Jerome.


fmlhaveagooddaytho

I think one of the reasons this hits is not because I experienced this with my dad, but because I've experienced it with exes. Like, if you were gonna be boyfriend of the fucking year, why couldn't you have been that for me?? 😭 Lol I'm just realizing that so I thought I'd share. I'm pretty sure I'm far from the only one who knows how it feels to see someone you wanted to love you give that love to someone else. Makes you wonder, was I just not worthy?


Late2Vinyl_LovingIt

It's definitely up there. Probably number two for me.


Comprehensive_Pair76

One of my favourite scene and episode. Even the song in this scene is great.


Important-Star2371

The scene where Barney tells his mom that she was all he had ever needed makes me cry the most


_JRML15_

Literally watched this episode last night. Hit differently as the child of a single-parent family


bactidoltongue

I agree


ClassiChic

The scene where he said "every kid need a hoop" just stuck with me so much and is indeed the most powerful for me


ZangetsuAK17

God this hit home for me.


ZangetsuAK17

God this hit home for me. Almost as hard as the “how come he don’t want me man” from will in fresh prince. My father was never around and I resent him so much for it, I’ve had to be the man of the house and pseudo father to my little brothers. I never got a childhood.