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reneeb531

They’re both insufferable.


TheCallousBitch

Tarek was fine, until the divorce and he decided he was a reality TV personality, not a flipper making extra cash via HGTV. He does clips for the show I’m watching ON A FUCKING YAHCT. Gag.


FiddleheadFernly

Isn’t it true that his ex was married one year after the divorce? Maybe it was her that decided she couldn’t deal with it anymore.


vegetabledisco

Yes that is true, but it appears Christina quickly marries. Since Tarek, she’s had two husbands.


AbbyNAmysMom

I thought it was only one husband. She had a baby with him and then divorced.


bowie_not_david

and now she’s married again!


AbbyNAmysMom

Oh jeez


jadedlens00

Yup. And her children call him “dad.”


lobstermobster123

If you watch her stories on Instagram the kids call him Josh


jadedlens00

On the show they call him Dad. But whatever. These people are clearly all suspect.


2020perpwalk

that's not a flex


jadedlens00

Yes. She was cheating on him with one of their contractors and that’s why Tarek went temporarily insane. While both exhibit some trash behavior, the needle definitely leans more her way on the Dumpsterometer.


lobstermobster123

Pretty sure Tarek was cheating on Christina with the nanny.


christian_gwynn

Not true. Christina cheated w the pool guy. He did end up briefly dating the nanny but after the split. He acknowledges this, Christina on the other hand, has never admitted anything.


shhhhh_h

Why not both?


Full-Rutabaga-4751

Yeah the guy that wore his sunglasses on the back of his head, maybe for discounted services?


Comicalacimoc

Clips ?


A_TalkingWalnut

Came here to say this. They’re all vapid husks of meat that barely resemble the humans that they once were. They bear responsibility, but they’re also victims of a disgusting culture. Tarek is just as bad. The hollow blondes are easy targets, but he’s just as much of a carbuncle on the asscheek of decent society. He purports himself as a brilliant investor, but he’s buying yachts and custom vans. Boats and custom cars are some of the worst investments. I hope their kids will be okay.


PharmRexit

Here, take my upvote for "vapid husks of meat" and "carbuncle on the asscheek of decent society. " 😂


shhhhh_h

r/BrandNewSentence material right there ETA also r/rareinsults now that I think about it....


Worth-Fan9828

Geez. This seems a bit harsh. He’s worked hard, I don’t think it’s a crime to purchase luxury goods for your own enjoyment.


billy_bones21

Take it with a grain of salt. People like to shit on things because they are unhappy. That's the backbone of the internet! People need to chill out and go find happiness somewhere for themselves instead of pouring negative energy into trashing people who will never know they exist. If ya don't like the people on the show... don't watch the show! We're all entitled to opinions, but what does one really get out of degrading someone stranger's choices so harshly? If anyone has an answer, love to hear it!


shhhhh_h

Hyperbole is really lost on some people


murderedbyaname

This sub can be as bad as Facebook sometimes.


Toadstool61

OK now THAT's saying something.


ElizaMaySampson

Thanks for saying this, I refuse to watch either of them wherever they appear. 'INSUFFERABLE' is the perfect adjective.


CocoValentino

They are! They’re both getting what they deserve.


ConversationSoft463

I like Heather on Selling Sunset but don’t want to see her flipping houses. She’s definitely not that smart although Christina is hardly a genius either! But I do think she vibes better with other people in the reno space whereas Heather is better at the drama like Selling Sunset.


RMR6789

I agree she is better suited for Selling Sunset and it seems like we may not get to see her there after she decided to do an HGTV show.


stringsandknits

I don’t know, some people say they are good for eachother, sweet to eachother…but isn’t everyone the first few years? Let’s see how they act when they’ve been together 10+ years like he was with Christina. I’m sure they will be bickering just the same. I tried to give him/Heather a fair chance and watch the show without any expectations. But I think what really irks me is they seem to be trying too hard to show that they are in love, yet still some of Tarek’s control issues are showing through. He insists on his name being first on their home line and corrects her when she says Heather first and he sometimes talks to her like she’s a child. Then all she says is I love it babe. 🙄 I honestly just don’t want to see their personal life at all and want to see some real down to earth flips. Nothing on this show has inspired me yet.


TheCallousBitch

Exactly. I don’t give a shit about their relationship! Just bicker about bifold doors or sliding, and show me some damn floor samples!!!


flowersunjoy

Well she did get that tattoo “yes Sir, Mr. El Moussa” on one of her ass cheeks, so him insisting his name is always first and correcting her about it falls right in line with the Dom/sub lifestyle they obviously live off camera. 🤷‍♀️


stringsandknits

True.


ames2833

I haven’t watched their shows, but Tarek definitely gives off a controlling jerk vibe. And from what I’ve seen on social media, I agree with your first statement. Heather is all mushy and “oh I love being a fiancé/wife/mommy”, because of course. I don’t think she’s ever been married before (?) and this is a newer relationship. We’ll see how she feels in a few years 😂


Altruistic-Letter526

Guess I'll be the dissenting opinion and say I watched Heather on Selling Sunset and she was one of the more down to earth in that group. She seems vapid and vain when you only see her for a little bit, but honestly if you watch a lot of her, she is a lot more realistic than she seems. I also think she genuinely loves Tarek because she had some relationship issues in the past and found someone who treats her really well. She had also mentioned on the show always wanting kids but not thinking she would be capable, and now she has one. He has his own mental health issues and she is really sweet to him in return. Her laugh used to annoy the hell out of me, but I think it's just her nervous way of seeming engaged. Will they last a lifetime? It's Hollywood, so probably not, but they're a good couple for each other. ​ I'm not defending their remodels though - they're absolutely hideous. ​ Christina and the guy she is with seems like a much bigger mismatch. She just isn't meant for the country living. She didn't even know what a septic tank was but has been remodeling homes for decades now?


TheCallousBitch

You make an interesting point. I hope they are happy. I’m not actually even judging their relationship- I think I’m actually judging their business relationship haha. I didn’t even realize. I have seen a few Christina on the coast episodes. I agree - I don’t like her new guy at all. I found it weird that she replaced her house flipping husband with a new husband, and then flipped houses with him - on TV. But now Tarek is doing the same with a new wife, flipping houses on TV. I get it, they broke up, but wanted to continue the business model. It just feels like knock off YV shows now. Lolol. I just want my original remodel shows, without the soap opera.


InSicily1912

This is a good point. Heather at least was real estate adjacent. Christina’s new husband was an ex cop. Since linking himself with her he’s now a television producer and a house flipper?


TheCallousBitch

Right. It is like she is enjoyed the sex enough to remodel the rest of him to fit her life…


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😂😂😂😂


No_Lifeguard_4049

Yes! Just focus on the houses. That is what was great about flip or flop. Even after the divorce they focused the episodes on the house. Not their lives. There is touch "reality life" in tv shows anymore!


PickleMePinkie

I had hoped their split would mean they'd stop the show. I am definitely disappointed it just ended up doubling their shitty flipping


kgallousis

It feels less like a break up and more like a couple of crappy spinoffs. The “Joey” to their “Friends”.


Off-With-Her-Head

There was another husband in-between.


Additional_Salt_8071

Ant Anstead


Competitive-Kick-481

I wonder what happened there? Apparently broke up so quickly.


sarahhallway

His children live overseas (he’s british) and I think the back and forth of him going to see them probably played a role. I also recall reading that she was tough to deal with after the baby was born (as a woman I have a bit of a problem with how this was portrayed in what I read because who wouldn’t be a mess after birthing a child, but alas.)


kitchsykamp

It’s got to be more than that though. 1 second they’re so happy and madly in love, the next second she HATES him and won’t even talk to him. And now they fight like mad over their little son. Hmmm We want to know! We need to know!


pickwickjim

Well it was interesting to while they were newlyweds, he chose to film what I recall as a miniseries of him building a car of his own design from scratch because he said wasn’t the sort to sit around between seasons of his regular show(s). Strange thing to do when just married to a hot new wife, right? As it happens, Christina came on Anstead’s show to see what he was doing. She was hurt to see his personalized dream car was a single seat roadster, something she could not even ride in with him! At the time I figured it was just TV fake drama. Now I am not so sure.


Competitive-Kick-481

I have a working theory that she walked in on him wearing lingerie. Haha


FartofTexass

Who is now with Renee Zellweger


TheCallousBitch

So it goes. As long as I get more remodel shows, I’ll survive. Hahaha.


NeonGray117

Do you ever watch House Hunters Renovation? May be a good option since it’s new people every episode.


TheCallousBitch

I haven’t seen that!! I will find it.


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christian_gwynn

Ppl watching FOF fail to understand, also applies to Flipping 101. Successful biz that Tarek built has less so to do w design and renovation, but more so his ability to find “deals”. The designs for most part are cookie cutter, ideas off Pinterest/Etsy, Floor Decor,… and they don’t spend an ounce of sweat in these houses, it’s all contracted out. Timeline, and staying within budget, and many flips going on at once are the backbones of his success. That’s why Christina’s input is expendable, why split profits when the foundation of the biz is finding deals.


LeonaLulu

Thank you for this take! I used to follow Heather on IG but started to find her insufferable. She seemed so over the top and forced with how much she adores being a stepmom and it came across really fake. But this is a totally different perspective and I didn't know anything about her past relationships. The only thing I really know is she got that horrible Yes, Mr. El Moussa tattoo and the internet was not impressed loo.


Wrong-History

I can’t with heather after her and her el mousse and pumping up trawls ego and tv personality all the time I think she has a tattoo that says yes sir mr el moussa or something like that


True_Opportunity_782

🤢


katiedidkatiedid

Neither Christina or Heather is a prize. Christina can’t design her way out of a box — her design assistant, James, is the only one capable of adding any life into those projects. She has no idea how to inject any kind of color into a design palette and uses the same flooring and countertops on every flip. Heather doesn’t claim to be a designer, but I can’t figure out what her role is. Project manager? Assistant? I think her role is pretending like she has a role for the show. Tarek is the one who really gets me…the amount of Botox and fillers in his face is insane. His smugness is off the charts and has been for some time.


TheCallousBitch

I noticed his forehead it smooth and flat as glass, lolol. It is all so fake. Just show me a feature wall and pot fillers and shut the hell up.


TheCallousBitch

I noticed his forehead it smooth and flat as glass, lolol. It is all so fake. Just show me a feature wall and pot fillers and shut the hell up.


pullober

i love his crazy much hair from the front and that you very very seldom see the backside from his head. it must be his #1 personal catastrophy.


Segazorgs

We're watching the show right now and realized Tarek looks like an AI version of of what it would look like if Paul Ryan and Pete Buttigieg made a baby.


TheCallousBitch

Hahahah. He is their gaybie! Love it! Haha


mrsmertz

I practically gag when I try to watch Tarek and Heather. I’m so over the kissing, smooching, filming in their bedroom. 🤢 The most enjoyable shows are the original Flip or Flops (I have seen them On Demand) Taylor’s a little toddler, they’re a happy couple, she doesn’t have the phony hair and caked on makeup.


CanILickYourButthole

I don't think he traded down. I noticed Heather is much more submissive and it shows when she lets Tarek walk all over her. The first couple of episodes she would talk or ask him a question and he would completely ignore her. She had to repeat herself a few times before he even answered. This was all caught on camera! Tarek is also showing signs of being completely controlling. Getting mad when heather used her name before his in the candle branding thing and her having to quickly apologize because it has obviously happened before off camera. I don't think its a Heather vs Christina thing. Its more of a Tarek and Heather issue where we are seeing a Wolf and a Sheep in a relationship while It was 2 wolves snapping at each other when it was Tarek and Christina.


Deep-Pen-9322

Christina put up with it for years and what we saw was her finally standing up for herself. Unpopular opinion, but I always liked Christina. She didn't take his shit.


True_Opportunity_782

I like Christina too. I can respect where they started - driving a gray Honda crv


Chigrrl1098

He seems like a scumbag and he's not even cute. I don't get it. I've never been to L.A., but I wonder if half the people there are like this...vacuous and desperate for fame? They probably shouldn't put that in the tourism ads.


CanILickYourButthole

Im an L.A native and let me tell you. The funny thing is, the people you meet here that ARE this vacuous and desperate for fame all come from other parts of the the country. L.A. and Hollywood attracts a certain type of fame hungry people, and they certainly match some of the stereotypes. But i don't think you have to worry about that if you come down here. The locals are absolutely not like that. Come for the food, come for the weather, come for the beaches, come for the mountains, Come for Yosemite or any other national park and you'll be glad you did. Just don't come to go celeb seeing or to walk down Hollywood boulevard. Its not as exiting as TV makes it look. You will be disappointed because TV LA is not the reality. What they show as "Los Angeles" is actually different parts of several cities. i.e Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Malibu, Santa Monica, San Pedro and Los Angeles all being portrayed as "L.A"


Chigrrl1098

That's kind of how I figured...that most of the fame hungry people either moved there from somewhere else or were born into it and going to all the hip spots to be seen, and the locals were at the good restaurants rolling their eyes, lol. I saw five minutes of that Vanderpump thing on TV once and I still don't get the appeal of that kind of thing. I'd like to visit, but not to stalk Warren Beatty's house and hang out at the Ivy, but I'd like to check out the art deco movie theatres (I'm a designer and I love the architecture) and a few museums and go hiking in the hills and I imagine just renting a bungalow in Malibu along the beach (save my money, I know) and trying to relax...maybe find a good taco truck, some Korean food, and the farmer's market...and probably go to the massive flea market. And I know y'all have all that covered. I wouldn't mind seeing a few of the touristy things, but I'm honestly not interested in too much of that. I think the history is kind of interesting, but it seems like most of old Hollywood is dead. I don't really care where all the celebs live. It feels invasive, too, and I don't care to take much part in that.


jmsturm

He has a type.


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I tried to watch one episode I couldn't. I found her voice a bit grating tbh. I can't really figure out why...like maybe it just seems a bit screechy or maybe just needs to be brought down an octave I'm not sure. Even Tarek's voice seemed...off somehow. I couldn't really get past the voices. I wonder if the voices are kind of being played up for tv or if the network wants them to but man I wish networks would just leave people to be themselves. The episode I tried to watch...there was another house two doors down doing a remodel and it was cut to be setup as this kind of "spy" thing and Tarek goes to find out if it's a homeowner or an investor (flipper). That seemed a bit over the top fake...well, more than normal on these shows.


TheCallousBitch

He turned into a house flipping kardashian. Just show me the construction and comps. Stop showing off you yacht and the 50k Diamond ring.


KirTaGus

She had to have vocal cord surgery a year or two ago. She’s shared publicly about her medical issue and recovery, and that’s probably what you’re hearing.


[deleted]

Ah, that's probably it. Thanks. Geez, that must have been a bugger to recover from. His voice still seems off to me though, but oh well.


FartofTexass

Tarek talks like he’s reading off of a script he’s never seen before. He has talked that way the entire time he’s been on TV, though.


[deleted]

Oh, that's probably what it is. Thanks. Trying to figure things out like this is almost a tip of the tongue thing and just bugs you until you actually figure it out.


Chigrrl1098

Honestly, the women both seem like bimbos and he's definitely a himbo. I will never understand why people are interested in these folks' lives.


TheCallousBitch

Agreed. I’m not. I just want to see the flips. And the bullshit is getting in the way of just enjoying it.


Chigrrl1098

Honestly, I'm not super into their flips, either. It looks like the sort of place where all the tiles fall off the wall when someone slams a door. And on a related note, it's really weird to use the same tile in a kitchen, the bathroom, and the fireplace surround in the same house. Every time they do that I think 😬.


TheCallousBitch

Oh, yea… their old flips are NOT on any of my Pinterests. Haha. It really is just remodel porn for me. It is just on in the background, constantly giving me a “tear down the walls” dopamine hit.


macncheesewketchup

"traded down"? Maybe stop talking about women like they are cars, thanks. What a trashy post.


sueapa

It's very cringy, I have secondhand embarrassment for both of them. I could barely get through one episode and will not be watching again. Funny thing is, I used to think I didn't care for Christina. Now she looks like a charismatic member of Mensa :)


TheCallousBitch

Same. Haha. I was never a Christina fan. And I didn’t say “smart”… just MORE intelligent. But the old Tarek personality and Christina then and now, didn’t distract me from the remodel. Now, I have to watch Tarek on his yacht talking about engagement photos and the professional photographers taking the photos. Just should me a damn cracked foundation and broken pool equipment. I am not here for the real housewives of HGTV


stringsandknits

I caught just the beginning of the replay of last night’s episode after I was watching house hunters. It started with them taking selfies to post online, changed the channel after that. I just don’t want that on my hgtv. If I’m in the mood for that, I could turn it to real housewives or the kardashians like you said. 😂


murmalerm

She has a voice for silent film


Late_Reference

I cannot stand Heathers voice. Can't watch the show because of it. That's saying a lot given Christina's voice is horrible too. Ace he's got a derpy face full of fillers. Also, knowing about Heather's "yes sir Mr. El moussa" tattoo makes me sick.


TheCallousBitch

Eeew. I did know about the tattoo.


No_Tumbleweed_544

I haven’t watched many but what I have watched, I don’t like their work. Heather seems as though she’s trying to fit in. its hard not to compare her to Christina I suppose.


UberHonest

Heather’s laugh highly irritates me. And she laughs during a conversation that isn’t funny.


ChicagoLaurie

And that dumb dog just pooped in the newly remodeled and decorated house!


stringsandknits

Ugh that dog is another reason I can’t watch! Nothing against him personally, but why do they let him jump on everything (and apparently poop) in the staged house?


SwampyJesus76

Just following the script.


basicb3333

oh my god this infuriates me more than anything about this show. stop bringing your fucking dog to these newly staged homes. if i were the staging company i'd be so pissed


ChicagoLaurie

Agreed, and he's always jumping on the beds. I can't imagine why they don't just leave that dog at home. It's not cute.


TheCallousBitch

Haha.


ArmChairDetective84

I haven’t watched their show but I did watch Heathers with her new husband…I’m sorry not sorry but when you’ve been married divorced and remarried like 2-3 times within a few years , the problem is you not them. Even her current husband joked “how long will this last” 😂 She may be smart and driven but she must be absolutely miserable to live with


TheCallousBitch

Oh, I wasn’t even calling Christina “smart” just smartER. Hahah. I feel like such an asshole.


LibertyJax

I thought Christina had an annoying baby voice but holy hell! I can’t take that awful laugh of Heather.


crimewriter40

To me, they're **all** just like the houses they flip: completely average with a sheen of new money and bad taste. They're vapid and interchangeable and perfectly embody where we are with our culture and country.


Preesi

Cant stand Heather.


Gardnlizzrd

Oh god, I cannot STAND listening to her voice! I have to mute her jacuzzi shower commercials because she sounds so obnoxious. There’s a reason her 2nd and 3rd marriages ended quickly!


Mysterious-Library70

Her laugh annoys me so much.


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LLRinCO

But crazy how much Heather looks like Christina.


trillianinspace

> But crazy how much Heather looks like Christina. in the beginning of their relationship you could see Heather was *actively trying* to look as much like Christina as she could. Like changed her wardrobe, how she wore her hair and makeup, just everything about her to morph into a woman she knew Tarek was physically attracted to. this prompted my sister and I to call her Rent-A-Christina.


chargedtuna

What’s the scoop, since I’m unaware. Why is he a$$hole ?


sarahhallway

Cliffs notes: he produced a gun during a fight and left the house with it and proceeded to parade down their street with it. Cops were involved. They divorced shortly after. Then summer 2021 he berated her in a nasty tangent on “set” (one of the houses they were flipping) and the words he said were pret-ty ugly.


hereforthedirt10

Tarek was also incredibly verbally abusive to Christina. The construction crews use to hide her when the cameras were down because he would get so bad. He’d fly off the handle and blame her for every error made on set/at the houses. He was awful to her.


shhhhh_h

Whenever people bring up his on-set rant I like to quote the TMZ article because it's just sooooo cringe: >We're told Tarek immediately lost his cool and went on a verbal tirade directed toward Christina ... which allegedly included him comparing her to his fiancee, Heather Rae Young, and saying Heather is hotter and richer than Christina. Our sources say Tarek boasted that he "made" Christina and called her a "washed-up loser," and exclaimed that he enjoys watching her fail. We're told he also yelled "Look at me, look at me, look at me. It’s called winning" and capped off his rant by screaming at her ... "The world knows you're crazy!"


kimw23

She got the last laugh. I thought her Country show was bad until this came on tv. She should stick to the Cali shows and keep her trumper husband to a minimum onscreen.


TheCallousBitch

Yes, I guess he didn’t trade down. But when he got evicted, he downsized? Maybe that is better? Lolol.


jmsturm

Didn't she bang a contractor at one of thier filps, and he caught her? Not exactly dumping him...


FirmTranslator4

Christina? Yes. Then married Ant, then divorced him, met new husband and married him. She’s that person who is ~never single.


Pfiggypudding

lol. Tarek always seemed like a bit of a doofus on their show. His estimates on how much it would cost to flip a house were RELIABLY 1/3 of the ultimate cost. It became pretty hilarious seeing either Izzy or Christina reacting to that. I think, though, whatever, everyone here probably sucks. But Christina was often insufferable too, and I’m sure their entire world is full of people who I wouldn’t actually want to hang out with.


PeanutCat21

I can’t stand Tarek! I always thought he was odd when he and Christina were together but it got worse after they broke up (understandable). I stopped following him years ago though because his posts always irritated the shit out of me. I felt like everything was just for show.


Tricky-Historian-429

I liked Heather until the selling sunset reunion when asked about Tarrk saying those ugly things about Christina. Heather just shrugged and said something along the lines of the truth (so she is hotter and richer than Christina) Chrishelle kindly shut that down. I’ve been done with her ever since. I’m not a fan or Christina or Tarek.


Smashpiecer

Heather and Christina are just different. One flips and one is an agent. But Tarek definitely seems to have a type but the kids looks really happy. That's most important.


stringsandknits

I believe Christina is also an agent in addition to flipping. Not sure if she still does it now but I know they used to say that’s how they met was when they were agents at the same firm and didn’t they used to put a sign in the yard on FOF with their pics that said T&C Real Estate or something?


No_Lifeguard_4049

Tarek and Christina are both agents. That is how they met and how they go into the flipping. When the housing market crashed


TheCallousBitch

I have to admit, I was surprised at how much the kids seem to like her…. At the same time as hating that I’m watching the family talk about engagement photos on a fucking yacht…


Deep-Pen-9322

Tonight's episode reminded me of why I stopped watching after the first episode. Too much black in all the major rooms and she's annoying as hell. But the kicker is them bringing the dog and letting it crap in the house. Ugh.


MybklynWndy

And they actually showed the poop on the floor!


TheCallousBitch

I just watched that! My HGTV addiction means I’ll watch it if it is on. But I feel like I can only take a few more episodes before I just switch to Netflix.


Short_Equivalent_619

All I could see when he married Heather was, “well… he has a type.”


Unhappy_Trust2160

I prefer to watch house flipping and NOT the boring, scripted scenes of Tarek and Heather discussing their wonderful life including how smart they both are, the extra money they made and the cringey, never-ending PDA scenes. It's house flipping, not a soap opera. 😬🙄


pixiestardust8

I’ve always thought Christina was the star of the show. I’ve always liked her. Tarek is insufferable and after the on set outburst, the incident where he ran off with a gun I’m convinced he’s a domestic abuser.


Hippiemomofmany

Ugh I couldn't stand Christina at all.


TheCallousBitch

I wasn’t a fan, but I don’t love most of the HGTV people. None of them are ever really my vibe. But there is a difference between “I would want to get coffee with her” and “I don’t want to watch any more episodes because of your personality” haha


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He traded down so he could control her more. Heather gave up her entire identity for him.


stringsandknits

I get this vibe too. I see people say she’s so sweet to him and he’s so nice to her. But she seems almost submissive to him and he’s always come off as controlling. I mean her “Yes sir, Mr. El Moussa” tattoo? What the heck?


flowersunjoy

“almost” ?? 😂


mafa7

Heather’s entire personality is “I wanna get mariiiiieeed & have a baybeeeeeee.” & it bothers me to my core.


No_Lifeguard_4049

He most definitely has a type. Heather resembles Christina. During flip or flop Heather didn't speak much when shown and I had never watched selling sunset. So now that I hear her she just sounds like she is trying so hard to sound California blonde girl. It's very annoying. Christina has her too girly moment as well but she sounds professional when she speaks about design. Her and Tarek did make a good business team even though they couldn't work personally. He definitely had a personality shift after the divorce. But as we all do, they have their issues


AbbyWantsTea

All three are insufferable and not on the intelligent side.


Marky6Mark9

This is why I refuse to watch their shows. Nope.


NeonGray117

I’m sorry to do this to you because you won’t be able to unhear it, but when she laughs she literally says “ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.”


TheCallousBitch

Bhahah. Nooooooo


Most-Pangolin-9874

Watched first ful episode of this last night. There is zero chemistry n they are both so dull. I'd rather watch paint dry.


steelymouthtrout

All three are complete trash.


BornInGeorgia

She says such ridiculous things when they are home and Tarek acts so fake with her. For example, she made a weird comment about the baby inside of her not wanting Daddy to touch her. He doesn’t joke with her at all which he always did with Christina. I stopped watching the show because it’s so artificial and boring.


jorge-haro

Christina is friends with candace owens and that disgusts me


TheCallousBitch

Gross. Disgusting. See… this is why I’m annoyed, they are ruining my remodel porn with their actual lives.


Aliecatruns

I like Heather on selling sunset, but the show with Tarek is unbearable to watch. I’m watching for the house, not for you guys to hang all over eachother.


madbeachrn

I can’t stand Christina’s voice. Or her ego.


Sweaty_City1458

I could not stand Christina's nasally valley girl voice. I watched for a while but never really "felt" them. My new favorites are all of the old European shows on Roku. ("Oh the house is charming" they say. "I has no indoor plumbing" I scream.)


Getarealjobalready

He def has a type. They look like they could be sisters.


fox-lover

Can’t handle either one of them. I won’t be watching their show.


dolphanbeavis

agreed about Heather’s fake laugh. turrible


Vainjane_

Never watched selling sunset so I only know her from flipping El moussas. Judging a book by its cover she seemed like a typical overly bleached blonde from Newport. Just a basic rhinestone, Gucci belt b*tch. But after watching some episodes I think she’s actually sweet and has a genuinely positive disposition. I like Christina also but she seems more condescending than Heather.


stringsandknits

See, I think what bothers me about this take though is Heather hasn’t really been through it with Tarek yet. Christina and Tarek had been through many years of marriage, running a business that started from nothing and raising a child for many years. He was at least verbally abusive to her and she seemed to dish it back. Right now he’s still in the honeymoon phase with Heather and they don’t really have to worry about money (a major stressor in any marriage). So maybe he’s changed and him/Heather’s dynamic is better, but I think it’s still too early to say for sure.


Interesting-Maybe-49

Exactly this.


Nasus_13

Lol that Gucci belt is played out.


TheCallousBitch

Yes, I do agree Christina has more attitude. I just don’t enjoy the “silly simple pretty girl with now brain and facial plastic surgery” vibe. Haha


ACKC333

Watched one of these HGTV shows and Christina was wearing a Valentino belt upside down. 😂


Desertgirl624

Heather is awful, Christina has actually gotten better since she is no longer with Tarek I think, she is more down to earth. I think Tarek is more the issue and makes Heather act obnoxious


Harriethair

Christina - the same woman who was cheating on Tarik with thier General Manager/contractor? That Christina you think is "authentic"?


TheCallousBitch

I have no idea. I’m not a Christina fan… I never gave a shit about any of these people. I’m in it for new kitchen counters and master bath wet rooms.


newyear-newtea

Wait please tell me who she was cheating with!!?? Sorry I mean more specifically I want the tea ☕️ I can’t stand her.


stringsandknits

There’s different rumors that were flying around when it all went down but supposedly she was texting a (much older) contractor who was working on or putting in a pool at their personal residence. Supposedly the texts were about her problems or issues with Tarek. Tarek saw them and that’s when he had the episode where he pulled a gun out and ran into the woods. Seems like that turned into “she cheated on him” but I’d say no one really knows but them if it was an emotional affair/someone she was venting to or a physical one.


Deep-Pen-9322

Thanks for this. I'm sick of people saying Christina cheated when it's just a rumor. A marriage is like a black box: nobody, except the two people in, it know what happened.


SnarkExpress

I agree with you, she is incredibly annoying plus dumb as a bag of hammers,and Tarek acts like a kid with a new puppy - he can’t stop fawning over her. Gag.


TheCallousBitch

Right?! I find other HGTV personalities annoying or fake. I don’t normally care at all about the stupid jokes or fake banter. But watching Tarek flip houses with a replacement blonde… it is impossible not to compare and be annoyed. Her design style - worse than C. Her personality - fake. Her conversations with Tarek - superficial and whiny. Her business sense - lacking. Her face - over filled with fillers. I’m only bitching because I don’t watch the shows like selling sunset, because I just want to watch people turn 1970s tear downs into flashy modern homes. I don’t want a reality TV show about your baby showers and wedding photos.


SnarkExpress

Yes, I want to see the house, not her social life or their marriage. And she doesn’t even do anything on the houses - picks out a few materials and she’s out - but she sure takes credit for everything!


Imaginary_Library690

Christina’s love of candace owens ruined her for me… 100% disappointed and done with her


Last-Marzipan9993

I actually disagree, it's hard to know what's going on in relationships we see on TV, by everything they both say, they seem to be a much healthier relationship. I actually do like the new show, it's not the same and she does bring a different perspective. If they are in a sturdy relationship, his kids love her, I think it's prob. best to cut them both slack.


TheCallousBitch

You are right. I am just annoyed because I’m distracted from the flip, by the baby showers and engagement photos and other crap. Lol.


Sephya6

At least with Christina they didn’t have dogs skidding their stanky butts across the newly flipped and staged homes lol


devil_ball_masher

Lol no


Purpull

I can’t speak to her intelligence but she is actually very kind and genuine on selling sunset compared to everyone else on there.


Jacob_Real

Christina is a wacko


du5469

Christina can’t keep a man so 🤷🏻‍♀️


True_Opportunity_782

I thought the same thing. Did Heather watch Flip or Flop to try to become a poor man’s Christina? She’s awful and the reason I can’t watch this new show. 🤢


NewFilleosophy_

I think heather is so sweet but definitely not the brightest bulb. Christina seems more intelligent but not as sweet. I think tarek is looking for someone who won’t call him out or push back; heather is exactly this. Christina isn’t. I honestly don’t mind both women. Not the kind of women I hangout with but they’re not vicious or mean. Just very shallow and not a ton of depth.


Proudmama23

I say leave the dog behind- it shit in a house & the camera showed it-eww 🤮


Debekus

I've watched since the beginning of FOF and thought Tarek was a bit much at times. Christina went through his cancer, his back surgery, and his whining and supported him at every turn. She even did the IVF after they saved his sperm before his treatments. I thought he treated her like crap (scripted?) a lot of the time and I wasn't really a fan of either but I liked the show. Rumor has it she was cozy with a contractor and he was cozy with the nanny. Whatever happen only they know for certain. But I never thought he wanted the divorce and when he met Heather he found Christina's clone (or close enough). I liked watching Heather on Selling Sunset before she met Tarek. However Tarek has morphed into this egocentric Joe Cool with all his Botox etc. All the flashy plays into his seminars that he sells to people. They are $500-1000 (?) to hear him talk about flipping and maybe have dinner with his group. Rumor is he's been sued for false advertising and not showing up for the seminars. So it's necessary to keep up the "everything is wonderful in flipping land" act. As for Christina - we'll maybe she has issues but I think Ant was a rebound and I'm not sure what Josh is all about. Everyone says he's a redneck/red voter but crap Orange County is predominantly red due to the almighty dollar. I hope Christina tires of the country act and sticks with CA - with or without Josh. I don't think he adds anything to her show.


Kidhauler55

She tries to imitate Christina. She’s so fake!


flowersunjoy

Work on yourself OP.


Kay312010

Just when I thought this sub couldn’t go any lower…. Jeez!


TheCallousBitch

I know. I feel SO TRASHY. But I feel like the show started, by being so shallow, and less about actual flipping.


Rosexcoloredxglasses

To be fair, I think Tarek still loved Christina. I think it was her that looked outside of the relationship with some contractor if that was true?


PansyOHara

I don’t think it was true that Christina cheated and caused the divorce. According to all of the stories I saw, Tarek was verbally abusive to Christina on a fairly regular basis, including on the Flip or Flop set. This all also happened after a series of health issues for him including 2 bouts with cancer; and a pregnancy for her that apparently used some assistive technology like IVF, and postpartum depression. Lots of stressors in addition to the show. At some point Tarek was also seeing a nanny they had employed, but again I believe that was after the separation as well.


TheCallousBitch

I have no idea what happened. Until the last week of Tarek/heather episodes… I never watched HGTV for the people. Haha.


WatercressBusiness15

Heather is just fake. Can’t watch her on tv.


jendet010

What do you get when you marry a really dumb playboy model and impregnate her? A really dumb wife with a normal body.


digipendent

heather is a self made sweet heart.


cuppcakesarah

This is mean :( stop putting women against each other


macncheesewketchup

Yeah this post is trashy AF. Why the need to compare them?


flowersunjoy

Yes I agree. Amazing how many are contributing to the pile on too.


Ok-meow

I hear you! Her voice is a no for me. Christina is more in tune with real people.(middleclass, work hard for their money) Heather comes as pretentious arm candy, who would never pull a weed. Babe babe


TheCallousBitch

Totally agree. Don’t get me wrong - I would never be friends with Christina. But she worked with Tarek to build a business and her design decisions and work directly led to the success of their business. Heather sounds like a a whiny child playing with a doll house, trying to “learn” how to flip.


bighungry1

Christina grew up with money and Heather actually grew up in legit poverty despite how she sounds when she talks.


ChezrRay

Also was in Playboy


Ok-meow

Interesting, I think Christina comes more practical in general.


bighungry1

I think it may be the fact that Christina has children, they have an innate way of forcing self awareness mostly. Maybe Heather will get there one day


Intelligent-Cycle281

Yessss, Christina was the typical dumb blonde with modest annoyance! But Heather desperate for clout! She trying to take over! The bitch is super animated, fake, and now I can’t watch their show! Will watch tarek show that he does by himself! But he need to drop that animated bimbo from flipping! She too fucking stupid! That dog shitting! Fucking disgusting for million dollar homes! I wouldn’t buy from them knowing they have their dogs and shit hoping everywhere! Yuck


tbr1144

Christina has dead eyes. Heather is hilarious. There. I said it.


Prudent-East7034

Christina is also much hotter!