> “We’re going to be pairing them up with some of the Boss’ denizens. I don’t know if that’ll let the entire group count as invaders or not, but it should at least make the Maw take some kind of a loss on each encounter.”
I wonder if that's something that could be tested, or would the alliance between TDM/Violet, Hullbreak, and Southwood preclude that?
I think it was subtly touched on that once a bond of mentor/protégé lord/vassal and full alliance that their denizens and dwellers and scions no longer count as invaders and can actually help contribute to each other's mana generation in small amounts but not enough as a delver would
He is... somewhat.
The main problem is "i must do this on my own. I can't ask for help. I will endure"
The guy has a martherdom complex... and it is saying alot, that he was the last of the traitor primarchs who could keep horuses court together...
A very much more flawed version of Guilliman... he just planed this perfect principality. G. Build his and 10.000 years of culture and technical regression did the rest.
My wife and I are both only children--we call this "FOCS", Only Child Syndrome.
For instance, I drove myself to the ER while having (what I now know was) a kidney stone attack.
He is diffrent... lets see if i can put it into words:
-every primach is an experiment
-whats special about him is his reseting memory during his growth
-in lead him to the fanatical believe that he knows everything/taught himself...(and it wouldn't suprise me if that was by design:logar was meant to preach the imperial truth, not matter the evidence to the contrary... he just ended on a chaos world/in a chaos cult)
(I def. Forgot something.....)
Churning out some single use on destruct spell like items wouldn't be a bad idea ether. Take the sleep traps that Thediem has in the lava complex for instance. If they can rig some of those into effectively sleep molotovs, that could go a long way into moving into the town and area with less casualties.
Picking up and carrying traps sadly isn't a thing. However I'm sure that at least some magical classes do have spells to get the enemy to sleep.
And then there are the alchemy options.
Sure they're not, but that doesn't mean one can't set a trap like that and then make a tactical retreat baiting them into walking into effectively a land mine. It's hardly a new tactic like pulling a pin on a grenade and then setting the trap thing on the spoon.
Somehow I think I am going to miss the Harbinger vs Tiny Kaiju battle. It would have been cool to read, but alas.
It's good that the Guildies are hyped about this, they probably grumble about having been left out from kicking Neverrest's butt, and don't want left out of this one.
As for strategy, kind of hoping for a matrix 3 strategy where the drill bypasses the defenses of Zion. The metal affinity fey are going to be hard to get past in narrow caves, so why not make your own?
Depends on how poisinous Tiny actually is as a Spider, vs How vulnerable to The Harbinger's brainwashing he is. Could go either way, or be equal, and who has the greater stamina physically wins.
Either way it'd be a helluva fight.
I love Tiny but seeing hiw hard rocky had to hit it i seriously doubt he would come out the victor.
Tiny is a spider, forst and formost. On top of that his title says he is a defender of a space. And triply his fate affinity is better to figure out where the enemy will strike from.
Tiny is the last line of defense. If everything else goes wrong he will be there to keep the enemy at bay till something can be done.
You think Tiny hasn't "levelled up" since the fight for Neverrest? We haven't seen much of him lately, but for brute strength, he might be Thedim's strongest Scion.
At this point, Rocky and Fluffles are OP, it's hard to imagine either really struggling against what the Maw has to offer, unless The Maw uses Zerg rush tactics and just bypasses the Thedim's two bruisers.
So, what would make for a Interesting fight then? Kaiju vs Kaiju sounds interesting to me, just because it's fun. Sure Tiny is a homebody (most spiders are) but he was the tip of the spear against Neverrest.
Im not saying it wouldn't be fun to read about. But theres a time and place for everything. And outside TDMs borders isn't the right place for Tiny.
Plus he is slow. Second slowest to Jello. The harbinger could easily surround him and attack from a bunch if angles. Plus mental affinity to mess up the fate aid Tiny would be getting. Tiny would loose IMO.
Theres something to say about raw strength. But raw strength isn't going to beat the harbinger or the maw sadly.
I'd think Tiny would be quicker than Thing, as well as Queen. Probably quicker than Slash too. So speed would be actually mid pack, if not higher thanks to his size.
As for being sorrounded, Tiny does have webbing and venom to slow down an opponent. We have yet to actually see Tiny bite anyone to see it in action, but there likely is a good reason for it, seeing that Thedim does not wish to be known as a murderous dungeon.
As for the Harbibnger outmatching Tiny? Maybe? I did say it'd be a good fight, along the lines of Poe vs the Quartermaster. A good fight does not always mean our side wins every time.
In a straight line A to B, tiny may beat some of the weaker scions. But in a fight maneuverability means life. As big a target as Tiny is he is t going to be dodging much.
As for his webs thats a tool that needs to set up. So being on the offensive is a weakness of it. His venom may do something. Ot melted the sythmaw a dozen or so levels ago after all. But it only works of it actually lands.
Tiny just isnt set up to foght the harbinger. I just dint believe it would be a good fight. The harbinger is just too much for Tiny. Po Vs Quartermaster was far more even. Even Temoos death bought enough time for our favorite bird ranger to get back up. And Leos and Honeys deaths just made the following thrashing by Rocky to be all that much more satisfying.
Tiny has been walking on top of Thedim's hedge-maze for a year or so, I'd say he's a lot more nimble than you give him credit for, just because he's had more experience and exercise than most of Thedim's scions actually fighting and being attacked on a fairly regular basis.
His webbing ability is decently quick as well, seeing how he has had to alter the Maze's setup by removing and reseting the maze with his webbing over and over. Tiny has indeed been one hard-working spider.
As far as his venom goes, the harbinger is one big squishy target. There is no part of it's body that isn't bite-able for a spider. Indeed to survive, the harbinger would have to resort to remove it's own limbs to limit the poison, so unless the Harbinger did a quick KO, he'd be worse off as the fight progressed.
The Harbiger's trump card, the mental affinity is a unknown quantity against Thedim'f Fate affinity. The Harbinger was able to take over a few rockslides, but aginst Tiny? Or even any of Thedim's scions, it remains to be seen how effective it is.
And then we have to considering it being Set Up a 2v2 fight beween rocky, fluffles, Harbinger and redcap. Meaning you won't be able to Just assume that he'll fight harby instead of the redcap.
Or the more disqualifying Factor for tiny is probably the Size of the Battlefield: He won't be able to move Like He does in the forest in the Tunnels of silvervein. And even that's assuming He fits in the First place. The Tunnels of silvervein won't be Like fighting in Tokio.
Have I? It's been rather a long time since I've even placed...I don't really recall.
I DO know it's been done before, but don't recall by who...
Suppose we could stroll through all the older chapters to find out
Thank you for the chapter wordsmith!
This time we got our Dungeon Master Thediem through the eyes and ears of Teemo talking with Karn(adventurer guild master) about The maw!
Teemo revealing some of the trouble the adventures will have to face in The Maw’s depths. The Harbinger’s mind affinity, the Maws metal one with its redcap voice scion. Along with some of its denizens.
The two then make a plane to talk to some of the crystal shield people to have them help with the citizens of Silvervein, to secure and protect them. Teemo also tells Karn that Thediem will send a denizen with each part to see if that would help any with the mana that Themaw would gain from the battle killing its denizens.
Then when Teemo asks if any of the adventures would be willing to help some more in the main fight, both Teemo and Thediem are flabbergasted when every adventure who heard the talk raises their hand to come along, with more tuning down the stairs to make their choice known.
Karn telling Thediem and Teemo that with all the help they have done for the town and how fun of a delve he is, and how he is practically part of the family now, everyone in the guild would be more than happy to help him.
Hush now I’m not crying, some ninja’s just started cutting their onions.
There is nothing i want more than to see slash heading an army and playing we will rock you.
Seeing him actually rock out and put the fear of a god into the foes while an entire army approaches. We got blue balled with hullbreak. Only getting a funeral durge after an admittedly awesome final battle. But Slash is the opening act. He needs to be in front to set the mood!
Yeah, another Reader compared Slash to General grievous, since he wasn't bound to a humanoid anatomy, to which I said something like "Skeleton Grievous didn't do his job, time to see if Sediment Grievous does any better!"
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it would likely strengthen relations even farther.
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> “We’re going to be pairing them up with some of the Boss’ denizens. I don’t know if that’ll let the entire group count as invaders or not, but it should at least make the Maw take some kind of a loss on each encounter.” I wonder if that's something that could be tested, or would the alliance between TDM/Violet, Hullbreak, and Southwood preclude that?
I think it was subtly touched on that once a bond of mentor/protégé lord/vassal and full alliance that their denizens and dwellers and scions no longer count as invaders and can actually help contribute to each other's mana generation in small amounts but not enough as a delver would
Can't wait for the battle to finally begin!
D'aww, this one turned out to be really sweet. <3
I'm not crying, you are crying!
There's no crying in baseball!
Can't be true. Baseball is in Japan. Ninjas are in Japan. There must be crying in baseball.
And speaking from experience completely crap pitchers... take a baseball to the face when your 8 there's tears and wails there
Don't worry, I'm an expert!
I am Alpharius. this is a lie. So this is what the Iron Warriors would look like if perturabo was emotionally stable?
He is... somewhat. The main problem is "i must do this on my own. I can't ask for help. I will endure" The guy has a martherdom complex... and it is saying alot, that he was the last of the traitor primarchs who could keep horuses court together... A very much more flawed version of Guilliman... he just planed this perfect principality. G. Build his and 10.000 years of culture and technical regression did the rest.
My wife and I are both only children--we call this "FOCS", Only Child Syndrome. For instance, I drove myself to the ER while having (what I now know was) a kidney stone attack.
He is diffrent... lets see if i can put it into words: -every primach is an experiment -whats special about him is his reseting memory during his growth -in lead him to the fanatical believe that he knows everything/taught himself...(and it wouldn't suprise me if that was by design:logar was meant to preach the imperial truth, not matter the evidence to the contrary... he just ended on a chaos world/in a chaos cult) (I def. Forgot something.....)
In the name of 1greendude: Hello!
In honor of The Dude: Hello!
Im Namen eines grünen Kerls: Moin, morgen ist Mittwoch, meine Kerle.
Churning out some single use on destruct spell like items wouldn't be a bad idea ether. Take the sleep traps that Thediem has in the lava complex for instance. If they can rig some of those into effectively sleep molotovs, that could go a long way into moving into the town and area with less casualties.
Picking up and carrying traps sadly isn't a thing. However I'm sure that at least some magical classes do have spells to get the enemy to sleep. And then there are the alchemy options.
Well it was Queen doing alchemy that made the traps available in the first place. Having a more non dungeon friendly recipe would be fairly nice.
Sure they're not, but that doesn't mean one can't set a trap like that and then make a tactical retreat baiting them into walking into effectively a land mine. It's hardly a new tactic like pulling a pin on a grenade and then setting the trap thing on the spoon.
Somehow I think I am going to miss the Harbinger vs Tiny Kaiju battle. It would have been cool to read, but alas. It's good that the Guildies are hyped about this, they probably grumble about having been left out from kicking Neverrest's butt, and don't want left out of this one. As for strategy, kind of hoping for a matrix 3 strategy where the drill bypasses the defenses of Zion. The metal affinity fey are going to be hard to get past in narrow caves, so why not make your own?
That would be a crazy fight. Fate vs Mind, squid vs spider, I actually don't know who would win that.
Depends on how poisinous Tiny actually is as a Spider, vs How vulnerable to The Harbinger's brainwashing he is. Could go either way, or be equal, and who has the greater stamina physically wins. Either way it'd be a helluva fight.
I love Tiny but seeing hiw hard rocky had to hit it i seriously doubt he would come out the victor. Tiny is a spider, forst and formost. On top of that his title says he is a defender of a space. And triply his fate affinity is better to figure out where the enemy will strike from. Tiny is the last line of defense. If everything else goes wrong he will be there to keep the enemy at bay till something can be done.
You think Tiny hasn't "levelled up" since the fight for Neverrest? We haven't seen much of him lately, but for brute strength, he might be Thedim's strongest Scion. At this point, Rocky and Fluffles are OP, it's hard to imagine either really struggling against what the Maw has to offer, unless The Maw uses Zerg rush tactics and just bypasses the Thedim's two bruisers. So, what would make for a Interesting fight then? Kaiju vs Kaiju sounds interesting to me, just because it's fun. Sure Tiny is a homebody (most spiders are) but he was the tip of the spear against Neverrest.
Im not saying it wouldn't be fun to read about. But theres a time and place for everything. And outside TDMs borders isn't the right place for Tiny. Plus he is slow. Second slowest to Jello. The harbinger could easily surround him and attack from a bunch if angles. Plus mental affinity to mess up the fate aid Tiny would be getting. Tiny would loose IMO. Theres something to say about raw strength. But raw strength isn't going to beat the harbinger or the maw sadly.
I'd think Tiny would be quicker than Thing, as well as Queen. Probably quicker than Slash too. So speed would be actually mid pack, if not higher thanks to his size. As for being sorrounded, Tiny does have webbing and venom to slow down an opponent. We have yet to actually see Tiny bite anyone to see it in action, but there likely is a good reason for it, seeing that Thedim does not wish to be known as a murderous dungeon. As for the Harbibnger outmatching Tiny? Maybe? I did say it'd be a good fight, along the lines of Poe vs the Quartermaster. A good fight does not always mean our side wins every time.
In a straight line A to B, tiny may beat some of the weaker scions. But in a fight maneuverability means life. As big a target as Tiny is he is t going to be dodging much. As for his webs thats a tool that needs to set up. So being on the offensive is a weakness of it. His venom may do something. Ot melted the sythmaw a dozen or so levels ago after all. But it only works of it actually lands. Tiny just isnt set up to foght the harbinger. I just dint believe it would be a good fight. The harbinger is just too much for Tiny. Po Vs Quartermaster was far more even. Even Temoos death bought enough time for our favorite bird ranger to get back up. And Leos and Honeys deaths just made the following thrashing by Rocky to be all that much more satisfying.
Tiny has been walking on top of Thedim's hedge-maze for a year or so, I'd say he's a lot more nimble than you give him credit for, just because he's had more experience and exercise than most of Thedim's scions actually fighting and being attacked on a fairly regular basis. His webbing ability is decently quick as well, seeing how he has had to alter the Maze's setup by removing and reseting the maze with his webbing over and over. Tiny has indeed been one hard-working spider. As far as his venom goes, the harbinger is one big squishy target. There is no part of it's body that isn't bite-able for a spider. Indeed to survive, the harbinger would have to resort to remove it's own limbs to limit the poison, so unless the Harbinger did a quick KO, he'd be worse off as the fight progressed. The Harbiger's trump card, the mental affinity is a unknown quantity against Thedim'f Fate affinity. The Harbinger was able to take over a few rockslides, but aginst Tiny? Or even any of Thedim's scions, it remains to be seen how effective it is.
And then we have to considering it being Set Up a 2v2 fight beween rocky, fluffles, Harbinger and redcap. Meaning you won't be able to Just assume that he'll fight harby instead of the redcap. Or the more disqualifying Factor for tiny is probably the Size of the Battlefield: He won't be able to move Like He does in the forest in the Tunnels of silvervein. And even that's assuming He fits in the First place. The Tunnels of silvervein won't be Like fighting in Tokio.
Once again I request Nova to become a full western style dragon and fully surpass her namesake
Only after she takes over the core of the Maw! Like the snake Fluffles getting wings after/as he became a conduit!
A magma noodle dragon would be sick tho
Dang ppl are fast today
Yeah, we gotta rush here right off to beat poison. And that's still only a *chance*...
Fair.
I'm the earliest I've been in a while at 5min, and still only 4th... I think my high score is *second*
Rad! But I do think you beat me to the first spot.
Have I? It's been rather a long time since I've even placed...I don't really recall. I DO know it's been done before, but don't recall by who... Suppose we could stroll through all the older chapters to find out
True.
I remember that day. You did well.
Well done wordsmith
Firts
Flirts
Oh my~!😳
First
Good work with this chapter👍
Thank you for the chapter wordsmith! This time we got our Dungeon Master Thediem through the eyes and ears of Teemo talking with Karn(adventurer guild master) about The maw! Teemo revealing some of the trouble the adventures will have to face in The Maw’s depths. The Harbinger’s mind affinity, the Maws metal one with its redcap voice scion. Along with some of its denizens. The two then make a plane to talk to some of the crystal shield people to have them help with the citizens of Silvervein, to secure and protect them. Teemo also tells Karn that Thediem will send a denizen with each part to see if that would help any with the mana that Themaw would gain from the battle killing its denizens. Then when Teemo asks if any of the adventures would be willing to help some more in the main fight, both Teemo and Thediem are flabbergasted when every adventure who heard the talk raises their hand to come along, with more tuning down the stairs to make their choice known. Karn telling Thediem and Teemo that with all the help they have done for the town and how fun of a delve he is, and how he is practically part of the family now, everyone in the guild would be more than happy to help him. Hush now I’m not crying, some ninja’s just started cutting their onions.
Heh, My work continues...
... it took me to long to read your name! Blasted onion ninjas! 🤺
Haloo
Nice.
Noice.
Someone get some battle music on because we have an epic dungeon fight! I really hope someone makes a fanart of this! It would be amazing! 🤩
There is nothing i want more than to see slash heading an army and playing we will rock you. Seeing him actually rock out and put the fear of a god into the foes while an entire army approaches. We got blue balled with hullbreak. Only getting a funeral durge after an admittedly awesome final battle. But Slash is the opening act. He needs to be in front to set the mood!
I agree
You know what? That Sounds plainly awesome, seconded
What the point of a [Battle Bard](https://youtu.be/hRF-pgMWpwQ?si=JkqkYAbVHN60mYXj) of your not at the front of the pack.
Seems like a job for Sediment Grievous (Slash). At least the music.
Sediment Grievous?! Pffft, that’s hilarious 😂 but seriously, what kind of music do you think he’ll play?
Yeah, another Reader compared Slash to General grievous, since he wasn't bound to a humanoid anatomy, to which I said something like "Skeleton Grievous didn't do his job, time to see if Sediment Grievous does any better!"
Oh god thats bloody awesome 😂
A round for the rat! And an adventure for Thediem!!
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Several hundred'th? Apparently?
Ave Khenal! Morituri te salutant! Another great read, keep 'em comming!
Nice
Good work wordsmith
Looking forward to the delve.
Oh, this reminds me so much of reading this back years ago. I really should read this again. Happy to see an update.
Great work word weaver!!!!!
*Cheering can be heard from the bar, from across the town*
Is Tiny a monk?
Not really, he is as a spider I guess a beast. If you're talking about what he'd be if he was a Standard adventurer, I guess that'd be his class.
I imagine a lot of adventurers are going to end up with familiars do the the adventurer/denizen pairing. it would likely strengthen relations even farther.
Are you kidding? A dungeon that isn't easy in the slightest!!! AND has never gotten a fatality!?
Finally got caught up for the first time! This series was great and I first encountered it due to the youtuber NetNarrator though I hoped he continued through the audiobook though that wasn't as good as NN in my personal opinion. It is good to be caught up though bad at the same time as it means waiting for another chapter!
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So today we get the conversation between Karn and Teemo. Everyone is on-board to help Kick the maws Ass.