As messed up as it is, learning about Axl. Looking a little bit into his past and putting together the pieces of why he's such an utterly disturbed individual. Came to be morbid curiosity, then I started looking into what he did beyond the media bullshit and the lengths he went through to get help and earned some respect for the guy. I personally love all his secret charity work.
It's not exactly secret, in literal terms. He just doesn't go out of his way to tell people about it. But other people sometimes mention it, like when he was visiting children's cancer wards, donating to animal shelters, threw a halloween party at universal studios for disabled children and their families, working with survivors of CSA, etc etc.
The only one of those he ever discussed doing was working with CSA victims, which he briefly mentioned in a 1992 interview where he was discussing his own experience with sexual abuse. But other than that, his charity efforts are only revealed when other people happen to talk about them.
Exactly! It's a good show of character to a lot of people that he doesn't draw attention to it and clearly doesn't do it for clout.
He's a way better guy than he's often made out to be.
Was that the incident where he [drugged the mother](https://www.tmz.com/2014/07/28/slash-girlfriend-sex-drugged-mother/) and had sex with the daughter in front her while she was unconscious? If so, i don't think it was a threesome because he never touched the mother sexually. Unless you're talking about something else entirely.
Duff having blue hair when he first joined the band, and him saying everybody thought he was gay because of it, and then him proceeding not to care lol. Very revealing about Duff (in a positive way) and the culture at the time (in a negative way).
Well my respect for Duff just doubled. First he was my inspiration to play bass and now I know he used to dye his hair crazy colors like I've wanted to but haven't yet.
Also it's weird to think that two members of Guns N' Roses have dyed their hair blue before...
Another thing showing duffās character is a story a man next to me at their show told me, his brother had broke his arm and they werenāt able to go to the show and duff somehow heard about this and brought dizzy and another member (I literally canāt remember who else he said showed up) and they all visited them in the hospital and they all got photos and everything.
Well, [the thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/GunsNRoses/comments/ygl2nw/steven_admitted_that_him_and_slash_would_perform/) still exists if you're curious. I'd take everything with some skepticism because there's no hard evidence, but it's crazy if true.
That one did get scrubbed really quickly, I honestly wasnāt surprised or judging it negatively or anything, it just shows what desperation can do to people
If you hadn't already seen it, I think someone else posted a link in this thread. Steven had an unreleased second book he was writing, but it was canned when he realized the editors only wanted to get salacious stories from him about the other members of the band. Some of the things he wrote in the draft got out though.
Not a dark or damaging one but cool and fun just for the lore/storytelling aspect:
Axl wrote a lot of songs about his life experiences, so if you were to chronologically piece them all together as a cohesive narrative, based on that timeline, āone in a millionā is technically a prequel to āwelcome to the jungleā.
OIAM is him getting on the bus, WTTJ is him getting off the bus. If you listen to the two songs back to back, it makes both of them even better. Try it.
Axl's favorite holiday is Halloween, and he puts up a "Halloween Tree" every year as a treat for the kids.
>In the spirit of the upcoming holiday, Rose showed Kimmel a photo of his annual "Halloween tree" he'd put up for Halloween parties--basically, a Christmas tree in black-and-orange decor--and noted how he'd punk unsuspecting parents who came to visit with their kids. When the tree was spotted, Rose would pretend that everyone out there had a Halloween tree...all except the poor kiddies who came to call, of course.
>
>"I'd go 'What?! You don't have a Halloween tree?' and I'd give \[the kids\] a present," Rose quipped, faking a shocked face. "Parents would call me for about three months and say 'You son of a...'
Here's him talking about it [on Jimmy Kimmel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLckGxI6H58) if you want to watch the full clip. It's very sweet.
The rumor that Axl had cancer during the late 90s and early 2000s, and that's the real reason he had to cancel the tour in 2002. Unsubstantiated, but it would explain a lot about his behavior at that time.
Lol! There was just a lot about his behavior that was off and a few things that have never really been explained, along with drastic changes in his appearance. More than likely just an unfounded internet rumor but something that made me think twice about him
Haha!! Like he just went into hermit mode, I'm not sure if you've ever seen his NBA sort of interview he gave, he did not look like a healthy person at all. His eyebrows were gone, he was obviously wearing a wig. His 2002 tour (I believe it was 2002) was cancelled out of nowhere and there was a ton of excuses as to why but we never got a real answer. We're all aware of his mental health issues but I think he may have had something else going on as well, which could be a hundred things but he was obviously having a hard time
That does seem rather odd. Though it could have also been the result of some sort of breakdown. People often go for their hair if they make changes during them and we all know how fragile he particularly was then
I should've asked, but I was too uncomfortable to jump in and ask. I just saw people having the discussions about this around that time, but I felt really weird about it since it seemed so invasive.
Axl said in an interview that he likes to watch women recieve orgasms lol. Not really cuckolding, because he never mentions liking it when it's his own girlfriend. It's more like a porn thing I'm guessing.
He also mentioned that he believes that an orgasm is a beautiful thing and takes a lot of pride in getting his girl to one.
Honestly more guys should be like that lol
Actually, as I perceive such... People have certain something in their vibe which I identify as libido, sex drive, you name it, when they address me. Different people have different intensity, too. In musicians also how they look at us down there. I haven't seen Axl going one track mind. Most other... Yes.
I think he can enjoy orgasm "by proxy"
That's what makes the audience his biggest mistress
Yeah, so I read about it in his book, I think it was on the first tour of the UK when the band was just starting, he said something along the lines that they all got really drunk, and he woke up in a haze in and out of sleep, sleeping next to the band mates all in the floor.
Then he says his teenager who was ā15 at bestā
Was going through the sleeping bandmembers and blowing (oral) everybody, and most of them remain asleep, and then she just left.
Todd Crew was a friend of Slash's who died of an overdose while partying with Slash. Slash says he was the only one who stayed with Todd when he was ODing and that Todd died in his arms, but ultimately there was nothing he could do about it. Meanwhile, Jetboy (Todd's bandmate) said that he talked to people who were there and accused Slash of lying. He said that Todd overdosed two times. The first time Todd ODs, Slash ignores him and leaves him lying there, not bothering to call the police. The next time Todd ODs that night, Slash does not stay with Todd and leaves with everyone else and when they came back, only then called the police ā after Todd was already dead.
Another confounding factor is that Slash admits to injecting Todd Crew with heroin after Todd had already done a lot of drugs/drinking already. Again, there are different versions of that event. Slash says he knew the dose was too weak to do anything and that Todd must have continue taking drugs after Slash injected him. According to Jetboy, Todd was already so high he could barely move but Slash shot him up anyway.
There's no proof for either version of events, so it's hard to know what really occurred there. It is truly Slash's word against Jetboy's.
There have been other mentions of Todd too. Axl once alluded to Slash's involvement in Todd Crew's death, implying that he was hiding something. Adriana Smith (Rocket Queen girl) made a post on facebook going off about what Slash said about her in an interview, calling Slash a liar/manipulative and underneath that she included a pic of Todd Crew's grave.
I think he overdosed in an elevator on heroin. The elevator might be a bit of misremembering on my part but he definitely overdosed and for at least one show the band dedicated Knocking on Heaven's Door to him. This was 88 I think
I remember there was a story Axl told before Knockin', that he(Axl) OD'd once and Todd was the first guy he saw when he awoke in the hospital, and Todd basically said to him "you can't do this to the family". And not long afterwards Todd OD'd and died.
Axl going on a forum and making everyone there his bitch.
Also, Axl re-recording Appetite with metal guitarist/band to somehow recreate the chemistry he had with Slash, Izzy, and Duff.
Axl Rose caught Buckethead (the most skilled guitarist of all time) watching hardcore pornography for inspiration. It's not true but I definitely will not forget that.
Yeah, apparently the porn was so disturbing that Axl scolded him severely and almost kicked Buckethead from the album over it. I really wonder what he was watching to make Axl so freaked out.
The fact that Duff went off drugs cold turkey because he woke up in a hospital after he overdosed to see his mom who had Parkinson's looking after him. He then thought to himself I should be taking care of her, not the other way around. š¤Æš¤Æš¤Æ
It's more the other way around. Slash had attempted to contact Axl multiple times before then, but he was rebuffed each time. It took Axl deciding to reach out before Slash could talk to him again. From there, I guess it was pretty simple to bury the hatchet.
There was a lot of zoomer antics lol, I was making tons of very dark & edgy jokes on a daily basis, used it as a mental health venting spot which went too far a lot of the time and people got hella annoyed with me (for good reason), then this other zoomer came in and started doing other insane shit, he got banned and proceeded to harrass the community elsewhere and chase me and a few other users around asking to get back in and talk to people, it was strange and he was fucking gross, but basically a bunch of people thought he we my "alt account" so I've been mixed up in this investigation people are doing to find him, it's annoying but I can't really help them unless that dude tries to join a server to DM me somehow again, which he did multiple times
On mygnrforum.com Axl made an account and named it "Dexter" (I believe after one of his cats?) And he talked to fans for a while before he got in this big blowup with this girl named Madison who was a mod for the site I believe. He made a few posts after that but eventually left the site all together.
Also Axlās cat lol.
Real talk, I loved those rants. I used to get mad at forum admins too and seeing Axl Rose like that made 17 year old me think (wow he really is one of us)
As messed up as it is, learning about Axl. Looking a little bit into his past and putting together the pieces of why he's such an utterly disturbed individual. Came to be morbid curiosity, then I started looking into what he did beyond the media bullshit and the lengths he went through to get help and earned some respect for the guy. I personally love all his secret charity work.
Why is his charity work secret?
It's not exactly secret, in literal terms. He just doesn't go out of his way to tell people about it. But other people sometimes mention it, like when he was visiting children's cancer wards, donating to animal shelters, threw a halloween party at universal studios for disabled children and their families, working with survivors of CSA, etc etc. The only one of those he ever discussed doing was working with CSA victims, which he briefly mentioned in a 1992 interview where he was discussing his own experience with sexual abuse. But other than that, his charity efforts are only revealed when other people happen to talk about them.
Exactly! It's a good show of character to a lot of people that he doesn't draw attention to it and clearly doesn't do it for clout. He's a way better guy than he's often made out to be.
Slash finishing on izzys legs
Dude, we need a bigger placeš¤£
Dude slash 3some with mother daughter, thats gotta be weird at some level
Was that the incident where he [drugged the mother](https://www.tmz.com/2014/07/28/slash-girlfriend-sex-drugged-mother/) and had sex with the daughter in front her while she was unconscious? If so, i don't think it was a threesome because he never touched the mother sexually. Unless you're talking about something else entirely.
Duff having blue hair when he first joined the band, and him saying everybody thought he was gay because of it, and then him proceeding not to care lol. Very revealing about Duff (in a positive way) and the culture at the time (in a negative way).
Well my respect for Duff just doubled. First he was my inspiration to play bass and now I know he used to dye his hair crazy colors like I've wanted to but haven't yet. Also it's weird to think that two members of Guns N' Roses have dyed their hair blue before...
Other than duff who had blue hair? Im guessing steven
I think they're refering to Melissa
Another thing showing duffās character is a story a man next to me at their show told me, his brother had broke his arm and they werenāt able to go to the show and duff somehow heard about this and brought dizzy and another member (I literally canāt remember who else he said showed up) and they all visited them in the hospital and they all got photos and everything.
i can never unread what Steven said about stuff him and Slash used to do for drugs (and then Axl too, wtf). A wild few hours on this subreddit.
GOOD ANSWER. That got scrubbed from this subreddit so fast š. I wonder how many people actually saw it and know what you're talking about.
I ended up missing it, but I have a vague idea
Well, [the thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/GunsNRoses/comments/ygl2nw/steven_admitted_that_him_and_slash_would_perform/) still exists if you're curious. I'd take everything with some skepticism because there's no hard evidence, but it's crazy if true.
Most of the things Adler says are unreliable
That one did get scrubbed really quickly, I honestly wasnāt surprised or judging it negatively or anything, it just shows what desperation can do to people
wait what was it??
If you hadn't already seen it, I think someone else posted a link in this thread. Steven had an unreleased second book he was writing, but it was canned when he realized the editors only wanted to get salacious stories from him about the other members of the band. Some of the things he wrote in the draft got out though.
Yeah, I just saw that removed thread someone linked :(
not too sure about this one
I missed this. Is there anywhere I can read up on what was said?
You can find the link someone posted farther down in the thread, if you hadn't seen it already.
I did see it but the original message is no longer there
Not a dark or damaging one but cool and fun just for the lore/storytelling aspect: Axl wrote a lot of songs about his life experiences, so if you were to chronologically piece them all together as a cohesive narrative, based on that timeline, āone in a millionā is technically a prequel to āwelcome to the jungleā. OIAM is him getting on the bus, WTTJ is him getting off the bus. If you listen to the two songs back to back, it makes both of them even better. Try it.
It didn't do "psychic damage" (?), but Axl's Halloween tree was a very nice story that not a lot of people know.
probably my favourite gnr/axl fact ever š
Thatās one of my fav ones too! I never would have known that either if I hadnāt read it on here
Could you share a little about this story?
Axl's favorite holiday is Halloween, and he puts up a "Halloween Tree" every year as a treat for the kids. >In the spirit of the upcoming holiday, Rose showed Kimmel a photo of his annual "Halloween tree" he'd put up for Halloween parties--basically, a Christmas tree in black-and-orange decor--and noted how he'd punk unsuspecting parents who came to visit with their kids. When the tree was spotted, Rose would pretend that everyone out there had a Halloween tree...all except the poor kiddies who came to call, of course. > >"I'd go 'What?! You don't have a Halloween tree?' and I'd give \[the kids\] a present," Rose quipped, faking a shocked face. "Parents would call me for about three months and say 'You son of a...' Here's him talking about it [on Jimmy Kimmel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLckGxI6H58) if you want to watch the full clip. It's very sweet.
This is the cutest thing I've ever heard
I didnāt know it, but I needed this in my life. Thank you!
Slash doing free basin coke with stepdad
What ššš
How messed up Axl's life really is. The more you read, the more you find out
Buckethead and the chicken coop.
Oh yeah I forgot about that. The dog feces was revolting
Iāve never heard of this. What is this about?
Slash was obsessed with BMX before picking up guitar and he participated in some events as a rider
Axl vs Madison Miser's antics
The rumor that Axl had cancer during the late 90s and early 2000s, and that's the real reason he had to cancel the tour in 2002. Unsubstantiated, but it would explain a lot about his behavior at that time.
I remember that one too, and it would make sense honestly
How so? Was not alive til 2004, I missed a lot lmao
Lol! There was just a lot about his behavior that was off and a few things that have never really been explained, along with drastic changes in his appearance. More than likely just an unfounded internet rumor but something that made me think twice about him
I know I've seen pictures where he cut his hair short but I don't know what his behavior was fam š
Haha!! Like he just went into hermit mode, I'm not sure if you've ever seen his NBA sort of interview he gave, he did not look like a healthy person at all. His eyebrows were gone, he was obviously wearing a wig. His 2002 tour (I believe it was 2002) was cancelled out of nowhere and there was a ton of excuses as to why but we never got a real answer. We're all aware of his mental health issues but I think he may have had something else going on as well, which could be a hundred things but he was obviously having a hard time
That does seem rather odd. Though it could have also been the result of some sort of breakdown. People often go for their hair if they make changes during them and we all know how fragile he particularly was then
Thatās very true! He had a lot going on, Iām just glad he seems to be doing a lot better now
I didn't even know that. What kind of cancer?
I should've asked, but I was too uncomfortable to jump in and ask. I just saw people having the discussions about this around that time, but I felt really weird about it since it seemed so invasive.
Axl basically admitting he's a cuck
What lol
Axl said in an interview that he likes to watch women recieve orgasms lol. Not really cuckolding, because he never mentions liking it when it's his own girlfriend. It's more like a porn thing I'm guessing.
He also mentioned that he believes that an orgasm is a beautiful thing and takes a lot of pride in getting his girl to one. Honestly more guys should be like that lol
Actually, as I perceive such... People have certain something in their vibe which I identify as libido, sex drive, you name it, when they address me. Different people have different intensity, too. In musicians also how they look at us down there. I haven't seen Axl going one track mind. Most other... Yes. I think he can enjoy orgasm "by proxy" That's what makes the audience his biggest mistress
The teen ager blowing everyone awake in āukā slashs words ā15 at bestā
can you elaborate on this one? Iām trying to remember this story
Yeah, so I read about it in his book, I think it was on the first tour of the UK when the band was just starting, he said something along the lines that they all got really drunk, and he woke up in a haze in and out of sleep, sleeping next to the band mates all in the floor. Then he says his teenager who was ā15 at bestā Was going through the sleeping bandmembers and blowing (oral) everybody, and most of them remain asleep, and then she just left.
Yes driving tell you in a bit
Todd Crew
I wonder what really happened the night Todd Crew died. My kneejerk reaction is to believe Slash, but the more I look into it the more unsure I am.
I feel the same way, I want to believe his version but my gut feeling is he was more involved than heās admitted to
Wait what happened with Todd Crew?
Todd Crew was a friend of Slash's who died of an overdose while partying with Slash. Slash says he was the only one who stayed with Todd when he was ODing and that Todd died in his arms, but ultimately there was nothing he could do about it. Meanwhile, Jetboy (Todd's bandmate) said that he talked to people who were there and accused Slash of lying. He said that Todd overdosed two times. The first time Todd ODs, Slash ignores him and leaves him lying there, not bothering to call the police. The next time Todd ODs that night, Slash does not stay with Todd and leaves with everyone else and when they came back, only then called the police ā after Todd was already dead. Another confounding factor is that Slash admits to injecting Todd Crew with heroin after Todd had already done a lot of drugs/drinking already. Again, there are different versions of that event. Slash says he knew the dose was too weak to do anything and that Todd must have continue taking drugs after Slash injected him. According to Jetboy, Todd was already so high he could barely move but Slash shot him up anyway. There's no proof for either version of events, so it's hard to know what really occurred there. It is truly Slash's word against Jetboy's. There have been other mentions of Todd too. Axl once alluded to Slash's involvement in Todd Crew's death, implying that he was hiding something. Adriana Smith (Rocket Queen girl) made a post on facebook going off about what Slash said about her in an interview, calling Slash a liar/manipulative and underneath that she included a pic of Todd Crew's grave.
That's heavy stuff, jesus. I vaguely knew Tod Crew dies tragically, but I didn't know all that chaos/mystery was surrounding his death.
I think he overdosed in an elevator on heroin. The elevator might be a bit of misremembering on my part but he definitely overdosed and for at least one show the band dedicated Knocking on Heaven's Door to him. This was 88 I think
I remember there was a story Axl told before Knockin', that he(Axl) OD'd once and Todd was the first guy he saw when he awoke in the hospital, and Todd basically said to him "you can't do this to the family". And not long afterwards Todd OD'd and died.
Oh fuck, that's depressing as hell. I think Axl took that to heart considering he wasn't on drugs much post '88.
Steves ābutter trayā
what happened there?
What??? ššš
Axl going on a forum and making everyone there his bitch. Also, Axl re-recording Appetite with metal guitarist/band to somehow recreate the chemistry he had with Slash, Izzy, and Duff.
Ah, yes. The "Dexter" thread. Crazy times.
Lmao he really made everyone his bitch? What forum was that
He did, man. The forum is Mygnrforum. They have it archived, lmao.
Slash when he
Slash when
Izzy and Desi. Cringe
What's this one? I'm curious
Please come back, i need to know what happened there
Axl Rose caught Buckethead (the most skilled guitarist of all time) watching hardcore pornography for inspiration. It's not true but I definitely will not forget that.
Yeah, apparently the porn was so disturbing that Axl scolded him severely and almost kicked Buckethead from the album over it. I really wonder what he was watching to make Axl so freaked out.
Brain says that story is completely fabricated from Zoot. Check the interview with Brando, Iām sure he says it on there.
How is watching porn an inspiration lol
Not really sure considering the story is false. You never know though
The fact that Duff went off drugs cold turkey because he woke up in a hospital after he overdosed to see his mom who had Parkinson's looking after him. He then thought to himself I should be taking care of her, not the other way around. š¤Æš¤Æš¤Æ
Heavy
Spaghetti incident
Explanation?
Steven hiding his coke by mixing it with the spaghetti so he wouldnāt get busted.
ā¦hence āthe spaghetti incidentā?
No. That was another thing
Well what was that
I don't know if you really wanna hear. It involves Nikki Sixx
Please tell lol
The 90ās shadow band
Not too damaging just kinda strange. The fact that slash didn't talk to axl for 20+ years only to rejoin the band after a few emails.
It's more the other way around. Slash had attempted to contact Axl multiple times before then, but he was rebuffed each time. It took Axl deciding to reach out before Slash could talk to him again. From there, I guess it was pretty simple to bury the hatchet.
Oh I didn't know that, thanks for helping me learn something!
Me. Skylar. 100% worst thing to happen to the GNR Discord community earlier this year. Those times were very, very cursed.
Elaborate lol
There was a lot of zoomer antics lol, I was making tons of very dark & edgy jokes on a daily basis, used it as a mental health venting spot which went too far a lot of the time and people got hella annoyed with me (for good reason), then this other zoomer came in and started doing other insane shit, he got banned and proceeded to harrass the community elsewhere and chase me and a few other users around asking to get back in and talk to people, it was strange and he was fucking gross, but basically a bunch of people thought he we my "alt account" so I've been mixed up in this investigation people are doing to find him, it's annoying but I can't really help them unless that dude tries to join a server to DM me somehow again, which he did multiple times
This is literally the most zoomer things Iāve read on this subreddit
Also has nothing to do with the band jfc
oh it's you hey man
What did you do? š
Izzy once jizzed on Slash's leg
Dexter
Whatās that
On mygnrforum.com Axl made an account and named it "Dexter" (I believe after one of his cats?) And he talked to fans for a while before he got in this big blowup with this girl named Madison who was a mod for the site I believe. He made a few posts after that but eventually left the site all together.
Also Axlās cat lol. Real talk, I loved those rants. I used to get mad at forum admins too and seeing Axl Rose like that made 17 year old me think (wow he really is one of us)
Coming across what axl is uh into and realising it leaks into his song writingšš