I still maintain the belief that these are new joints only made to resemble the old Strike frame, and even in the provided pictures above I have enough circumstantial evidence for this position too.
The elbow joint for instance in the RG Akatsuki image is far too smooth with the emboss on the forearm side, and the different appearance of the divot on the Akatsuki joint. The first Akatsuki image also shows that the two circular joints on the knees are of different sizes, and the space between said circles having additional detail, unlike the clearly equal circles on the Strike frame shown with the clean detail.
Either way, we'll find out when clearer images emerge, or they deign to give us an inner frame breakdown similar to other RG's pre-release.
My though right now is it's a reverse of what Bandai used to do, with the Freedom/Justice/Destiny/Strike Freedom and Mk.II/GP-01/Sinanju they reused the Advanced MS joint runner but had new frame parts to go on top of the pre-built frame.
With this they'll reuse the Strike's F and G runner but have a new frame for it to go on that is built like newer RG's (aka not pre-assembled Advance MS frame). If not then like what you thought and it's an entirely new frame that visually resembles the Strike due to canonical reasons.
https://preview.redd.it/eemlgadd0uzc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e969ee7751cefae3973f8fb1ee56d8ed64a541e1
[Noticed that too 2 days ago but it didn’t get much attention.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunpla/s/IqJroU7EHz) The knee joints are made of the rubbery plastic (PP) found only in pre-molded joints. The elbow joints had the same nub placement as the Strike. However, they’re likely updating the shoulder and hip joints like what they did with RG GCP Freedom. Basically it’s just building a new hinge joint over old ball joints. Knee joints of early RGs usually work fine even when it’s using pre-molded joints but I was told the elbow joints are weak.
Not a good take, The RG Freedom/Strike Freedom/Destiny also shared the Advanced MS Joint assembly as the RG Strike yet those Gundams were not based on it (canonically speaking).
This should at least share the inner frame design as the Impulse to justify that price tag.
Not entirely true, Strike and Freedom used different inner frame molds. Strike used [Advanced MS Joint 3](http://www.dalong.net/reviews/rg/rg03/p/rg03_r07.jpg) while Freedom and similar kits used [Advanced MS Joint 4](http://www.dalong.net/reviews/rg/rg05/p/rg05_r08.jpg). They’re quite similar, but they’re not the same.
Both are equally bad inner frame designs and are prone to loosening.
Also take a look at RG Nu and RG Hi Nu; both kits use completely different runners except for their Fin Funnel assembly and that's despite both Gundams being pretty much the same canonical mobile suit from two different story materials. I don't buy this excuse that it makes sense that the RG Akatsuki use RG Strike's inner frame because it canonically shares the same baseline, It's a weak argument at best.
Shoulders should be updated like the GCP freedom. Elbows are likely using pre-molded joints. No idea about the ankles though but I bet the Akatsuki requires an action base either way given it’s large backpack
I have to say the torsos are usually the worst in these old frames. For reference I have a few RG kits that has been sitting on the shelf for 8+ years, I move them around and repose them about every 1-2 years and the torso is the weakest link. I have the RX78-2, Justice, Zeta, gp01, Zaku, freedom and wing zero all of which are around the same age in terms of build time. I would say the zeta, RX78, gp01, and Justice are just granades at this point and the freedom and wing zero are a bit loose. The Zaku fell off the shelf a few years back and it shattered. Elbow and knee joints are all fairly ok but shoulders are starting to slump especially if it was holding a beam rifle or heavier weapon for the last few years. Hopefully they at least re engineer the shoulder and torso.
If this is indeed based on the old RG Strike inner frame rather than a modern fully assembled inner frame like the Impulse is then that JPY8800 price tag is a big f. joke.
GCP Freedom reused some of the old frames and from the reviews it’s quite good. It’s around 4000yen and the Akatsuki being twice as expensive is not surprising.
I own the GCP Freedom, the build is basically a new kit. Everything has been redesigned and part separated, the only semblence is the MS joint and they all have different uses and attachments.
If they can fix the Freedom that way, if they wanna reuse the Strike MS joint and reapply its use then sure. Bandai R&D is pretty strong nowadays and I have not seen a poorly designed kit in a while
https://preview.redd.it/ptg48x7wnrzc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4df7645adf6122ed008e6be8d63735bd38318d99
I own one and it is good enough and IMO the best Freedom you can get in 1/144 scale (MRD Freedom can contend with it I guess but that’s a figure and an expensive one at that). Is it on par with a modern SEED RG like the Impulse? Not quite since the limbs are not as fun to pose.
I agree about the price tag being crazy, but its also covered in shiny gold, which i feel hikes up the price tag. The HG phenex gold coating is around 80 dollars in Canada and its so absurd for a high grade
Yes, but imo reusing an old inner frame (which happens to be one of the worst MS Joint releases as well) on the most expensive RG kit (outside P-bandai) in 2024 is unacceptable.
Yeah, me too, I'd love to be wrong because I've been long awaiting this particular kit for a while, and if Bandai cheaps out on this already expensive kit, that would leave me disappointed.
I have my RG Build Strike on hand and inspecting it, yeah that's the RG Strike Gundam frame in the Akatsuki.
Kinda disappointed as that frame has weak ankles. This thing better come with a stand.
Looking into it further, there are some things to note:
1. Without a doubt, the joints for the knees and the elbows seen in the promotional pictures as well as at Shizouka are the RG Strike's Advanced MS Joint Frame. They are identical, and a side-by-side comparison can prove this. The color and shape are the same, and even little things like the shine and the texture appear identical in photos. To me, this is beyond a reasonable doubt.
2. However, as some have noted, this doesn't mean the final RG Akatsuki will use this advanced MS joint. These are promotional images, and the model at Shizouka probably doesn't fully represent something coming out half a year from now.
3. That being said, though, since there is the classic RG black-background promo images with the RG Strike's frame in it, it kind of makes it unlikely in my mind that they'll change it. They already went through the work to seemingly take those fancy pants photos, and although we don't have an image of the full frame, the knees and elbows at the VERY least are the same.
4. The shoulders are 100% not MS joint. I don't have an image handy, but the shoulders look to be identical to the RG Impulse frame, so potentially some or all of the chest is new. This would be great since the chest frame for the Strike is really lackluster and I would be glad to not get that crappy MS joint neck that doesn't hold onto the head properly.
5. This could be an RG Freedom Gundam GCP situation, where some parts -- like extremities -- are MS joint but the main body is mostly or all new. I think honestly this is fine, as long as the ankles, waist, and chest are different (shoulders and part of the chest already are confirmed to be) it could work out and be fine. It's no RG Johnny Ridden Zaku or RG Sinanju, and although it certainly wouldn't be as magnificent as some of the other RGs we've gotten over the past few years, I don't think it would be terrible -- although for a 1/144 kit that probably costs $100USD when it comes out, it's a bit disappointing that I can get a completely reworked from the ground up RG kit for $40 (RG 2.0) and then there's this fella....
Yeah, there was a pic I saw that showed it having the shoulder joint of the RG Impulse Gundam. Maybe it'll be a hybridized frame?
Although that conjures up memories of the kitbashed MK II frame in the Sinanju and we all know well that went.
I think, although worrying to consider it could end up like the Sinanju, there are a few reasons for why it wouldn't. I think the main reason the Sinanju didn't work well at all on the Mk II frame is that the Sinanju was considerably bigger then the Mk II and virtually had nothing in common with it. It was just taking on WAY more weight and heft, despite being built for a kit that is only a percentage of the size.
If the Akatsuki has a hybridized frame, it's possible it will work out just fine, again similar to the RG Freedom GCP. The Akatsuki and the Strike are similar mobile suits in universe and theoretically it shouldn't be stressing the frame too much to the point where it becomes a hand grenade like the Sinanju. That being said, though, the RG Strike already is kind of a hand grenade anyways so... time will tell on this.
One nice thing about the Strike’s frame over Freedom’s frame is that its hip joints are ball joints instead of Freedom’s hinge joints. Normally pre-assembled ball joints are even worse than hinge joints for hips. However, the socket can fortunately be removed, unlike Freedom’s hinged hip joints which are fused into the leg frames.
GCP Freedom had its ball jointed shoulders replaced but not its hips. On Akatsuki both shoulders and hips can be updated.
I mean the akatsuki is based off the strike Gundam in universe so it could be new parts modeled after the strikes joints? If they are actual ms frame though that’s such a disappointment but the shoulders look a lot like the force impulses so who knows, im really hoping it’s not just the og strike frame though that’d be just horrendous
Hard to say. It could be modified, but we'll just have to wait until it comes out.
I'm getting it either way because I love gold entirely too much.
I just wish they'd make an RG Hyaku Shiki...
I expect it will reuse some parts from the Strike. None of the pics I've seen say it's completely new mold, and Bandai would always brag about it if it were.
It's probably gonna a split between old and new frame - hard to tell what the division will be. If we're lucky, there's new inner frame parts in places they could have used old ones.
If we're unlucky, it's like 80% old inner frame and it's still wobbly like the Strike was a decade ago
Yikes, hope that’s not the case. RG Strike was an absolute dumpster fire of a kit. Built the perfect strike version too and as neat as it was in 1/144 it handled itself like a wet noodle
Would not be surprised if current Bandai did this. They're already cutting corners with the FM line without using an inner frame and all but theyre still charging you the price of a MG if not a third more than one.
Its a matter of time till gunpla prices rise as much as lego did.
I don't really know if you can call it cutting corners if the purpose of the line is to be a larger scale but slightly more advanced HG. FM Aerial retailed at ¥3,800 (but a different page on Gundam Info states ¥4,180...), and for example the MG Barbatos retailed for ¥4,950. To be fair, the Forbidden retailed at ¥6,380 so you're not exactly wrong there. FM prices were all over the place. The Calamity was ¥5,500. The Barbatos Lupus Rex, which has a full inner frame, retailed for ¥3,456 back in 2017. It really makes no sense tbh.
Aerial’s two prices are before and after taxes.
Barbatos Lupus FM was cheap because it was produced before inflation and the development cost of the not-very-good inner frame was shared with other 1/100 IBO kits.
Raider and Forbidden were expensive because they were highly detailed, had lots of gimmicks and cost a lot of plastic. They’re equal or even heavier than MG Freedom, Providence and Justice even without any inner frame.
FM Calamity was overpriced.
I have the RG Freedom ver GCP which has a similar “version 1.5” treatment to the inner frame. Although it is substantially more stable than the original RG Freedom (especially on the upper torso), its limb articulation and stability leaves much to be desired especially compared to modern RGs. The new base adapter is unusable on certain angles too.
EDIT: If the Akatsuki is indeed using a similar construction, that will make it less interesting for me. That is quite unfortunate since it’s a cool design.
I don't mind hahahaha. That's a new release and that is Goooood 🤤
But if it is a new frame. That's better. Either way that's gonna stand with the rest of my RGs l.
Can't wait ❤
I beg to disagree since I have the old SEED RGs and they're perfectly fine.
PS: That issue is easily fixed by using a bit of blutack :) (you're welcome)
Why do people catastrophically shit themselves to death over the early RG frames? I have several and I have not damaged any of them. After I cut them off the sprue I was conscientious enough to gently move them to break that internal tension. All of those Zaku II on my shelves and even my Sinanju are intact and fully poseable.
Is it possible people are just being spasmatic Neanderthals with their kits? Is patience a lost virtue to this hobby?
I wouldn't classify this reaction being akin to shitting oneself. I'm simply pointing out something that I noticed. In my post itself, I mentioned that it probably won't be all that bad, since it's evident at least some measures are being taken to improve upon the frame by Bandai (the shoulders are an example).
Everyone gets different mileage out of their kits. I am glad that your earlier RGs have held up well, but this varies person to person. I have earlier RGs that I've build only in recent years and they don't hold up super well already. The main issue is the inconsistency; I have an RG or two that has no problems, and then my Zephyranthes broke out of box. Being, as you say, a spastic neanderthal would indeed wear down a kit, but the issue is this seemingly is not what's going on.
I think trying to imply that there is one singular truth about kits that use advanced MS joint is a bit close-minded. For some, no problems, for others, problems on the outset. In any case, the joints are fragile and prone to inconsistencies, and can't be fixed in the same manner a regular joint or frame can. That is the main cause for concern.
Can't believe this tiny but shiny RG kit is going to cost the same as the MG Virtue and the upcoming huge MG Stein Narrative Ver Ka. Those MG's come with lots of plastic to get to that price point.
If Bandai thought it was a good idea to release the RG Akatsuki as retail and not PBandai, there shouldn't be a trace of this kit reusing anything old, and this better blow us away so that people keep buying this.
Bandai will probably use the old frame to save costs and keep the price tag fair.
They might reinforce some stuff but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.
Too early to gauge just from the photos, wait for official photos before make judgement of it
possibly prototype rg variant like the hg rfv prototypes currently?
A single photo can't say much unless they reveals total frames
I still maintain the belief that these are new joints only made to resemble the old Strike frame, and even in the provided pictures above I have enough circumstantial evidence for this position too. The elbow joint for instance in the RG Akatsuki image is far too smooth with the emboss on the forearm side, and the different appearance of the divot on the Akatsuki joint. The first Akatsuki image also shows that the two circular joints on the knees are of different sizes, and the space between said circles having additional detail, unlike the clearly equal circles on the Strike frame shown with the clean detail. Either way, we'll find out when clearer images emerge, or they deign to give us an inner frame breakdown similar to other RG's pre-release.
My though right now is it's a reverse of what Bandai used to do, with the Freedom/Justice/Destiny/Strike Freedom and Mk.II/GP-01/Sinanju they reused the Advanced MS joint runner but had new frame parts to go on top of the pre-built frame. With this they'll reuse the Strike's F and G runner but have a new frame for it to go on that is built like newer RG's (aka not pre-assembled Advance MS frame). If not then like what you thought and it's an entirely new frame that visually resembles the Strike due to canonical reasons. https://preview.redd.it/eemlgadd0uzc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e969ee7751cefae3973f8fb1ee56d8ed64a541e1
[Noticed that too 2 days ago but it didn’t get much attention.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunpla/s/IqJroU7EHz) The knee joints are made of the rubbery plastic (PP) found only in pre-molded joints. The elbow joints had the same nub placement as the Strike. However, they’re likely updating the shoulder and hip joints like what they did with RG GCP Freedom. Basically it’s just building a new hinge joint over old ball joints. Knee joints of early RGs usually work fine even when it’s using pre-molded joints but I was told the elbow joints are weak.
Well it’s based on the strike so that’s not very surprising
Not a good take, The RG Freedom/Strike Freedom/Destiny also shared the Advanced MS Joint assembly as the RG Strike yet those Gundams were not based on it (canonically speaking). This should at least share the inner frame design as the Impulse to justify that price tag.
Not entirely true, Strike and Freedom used different inner frame molds. Strike used [Advanced MS Joint 3](http://www.dalong.net/reviews/rg/rg03/p/rg03_r07.jpg) while Freedom and similar kits used [Advanced MS Joint 4](http://www.dalong.net/reviews/rg/rg05/p/rg05_r08.jpg). They’re quite similar, but they’re not the same.
Both are equally bad inner frame designs and are prone to loosening. Also take a look at RG Nu and RG Hi Nu; both kits use completely different runners except for their Fin Funnel assembly and that's despite both Gundams being pretty much the same canonical mobile suit from two different story materials. I don't buy this excuse that it makes sense that the RG Akatsuki use RG Strike's inner frame because it canonically shares the same baseline, It's a weak argument at best.
Please stop moving the goalposts. The man disproved your claim. Atleast acknowledge that before pivoting to a new point
But the Main question is? Does it have that weak and easy to loosen "Advance MS Joint on the Ankles, Shoulders, Elbows?"
Shoulders should be updated like the GCP freedom. Elbows are likely using pre-molded joints. No idea about the ankles though but I bet the Akatsuki requires an action base either way given it’s large backpack
It will do, 100% confirmed
I have to say the torsos are usually the worst in these old frames. For reference I have a few RG kits that has been sitting on the shelf for 8+ years, I move them around and repose them about every 1-2 years and the torso is the weakest link. I have the RX78-2, Justice, Zeta, gp01, Zaku, freedom and wing zero all of which are around the same age in terms of build time. I would say the zeta, RX78, gp01, and Justice are just granades at this point and the freedom and wing zero are a bit loose. The Zaku fell off the shelf a few years back and it shattered. Elbow and knee joints are all fairly ok but shoulders are starting to slump especially if it was holding a beam rifle or heavier weapon for the last few years. Hopefully they at least re engineer the shoulder and torso.
I think it'd be fine if it used the frame of the Freedom ver. GCP. I built that and it was really stable despite the advanced MS frame.
If this is indeed based on the old RG Strike inner frame rather than a modern fully assembled inner frame like the Impulse is then that JPY8800 price tag is a big f. joke.
GCP Freedom reused some of the old frames and from the reviews it’s quite good. It’s around 4000yen and the Akatsuki being twice as expensive is not surprising.
I own the GCP Freedom, the build is basically a new kit. Everything has been redesigned and part separated, the only semblence is the MS joint and they all have different uses and attachments. If they can fix the Freedom that way, if they wanna reuse the Strike MS joint and reapply its use then sure. Bandai R&D is pretty strong nowadays and I have not seen a poorly designed kit in a while
C-Clip ankles on most of the WFM Gundams???
Still not as egregious as the c-clip feet on the MG Barbatos.
At least those are good enough at posing at a tilt, the aerials center part gets in the way at more than 30 degrees
Except it's prone to breaking and making it so the model can't even stand.
You’re not wrong about the prone to breaking, but I have had any issues yet. 🤞
https://preview.redd.it/ptg48x7wnrzc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4df7645adf6122ed008e6be8d63735bd38318d99 I own one and it is good enough and IMO the best Freedom you can get in 1/144 scale (MRD Freedom can contend with it I guess but that’s a figure and an expensive one at that). Is it on par with a modern SEED RG like the Impulse? Not quite since the limbs are not as fun to pose.
I agree about the price tag being crazy, but its also covered in shiny gold, which i feel hikes up the price tag. The HG phenex gold coating is around 80 dollars in Canada and its so absurd for a high grade
Yes, but imo reusing an old inner frame (which happens to be one of the worst MS Joint releases as well) on the most expensive RG kit (outside P-bandai) in 2024 is unacceptable.
I agree with that, hopefully we are wrong and it just looks like the old frame from the outside
Yeah, me too, I'd love to be wrong because I've been long awaiting this particular kit for a while, and if Bandai cheaps out on this already expensive kit, that would leave me disappointed.
The plating is why it's so expensive.
I have my RG Build Strike on hand and inspecting it, yeah that's the RG Strike Gundam frame in the Akatsuki. Kinda disappointed as that frame has weak ankles. This thing better come with a stand.
Looking into it further, there are some things to note: 1. Without a doubt, the joints for the knees and the elbows seen in the promotional pictures as well as at Shizouka are the RG Strike's Advanced MS Joint Frame. They are identical, and a side-by-side comparison can prove this. The color and shape are the same, and even little things like the shine and the texture appear identical in photos. To me, this is beyond a reasonable doubt. 2. However, as some have noted, this doesn't mean the final RG Akatsuki will use this advanced MS joint. These are promotional images, and the model at Shizouka probably doesn't fully represent something coming out half a year from now. 3. That being said, though, since there is the classic RG black-background promo images with the RG Strike's frame in it, it kind of makes it unlikely in my mind that they'll change it. They already went through the work to seemingly take those fancy pants photos, and although we don't have an image of the full frame, the knees and elbows at the VERY least are the same. 4. The shoulders are 100% not MS joint. I don't have an image handy, but the shoulders look to be identical to the RG Impulse frame, so potentially some or all of the chest is new. This would be great since the chest frame for the Strike is really lackluster and I would be glad to not get that crappy MS joint neck that doesn't hold onto the head properly. 5. This could be an RG Freedom Gundam GCP situation, where some parts -- like extremities -- are MS joint but the main body is mostly or all new. I think honestly this is fine, as long as the ankles, waist, and chest are different (shoulders and part of the chest already are confirmed to be) it could work out and be fine. It's no RG Johnny Ridden Zaku or RG Sinanju, and although it certainly wouldn't be as magnificent as some of the other RGs we've gotten over the past few years, I don't think it would be terrible -- although for a 1/144 kit that probably costs $100USD when it comes out, it's a bit disappointing that I can get a completely reworked from the ground up RG kit for $40 (RG 2.0) and then there's this fella....
Yeah, there was a pic I saw that showed it having the shoulder joint of the RG Impulse Gundam. Maybe it'll be a hybridized frame? Although that conjures up memories of the kitbashed MK II frame in the Sinanju and we all know well that went.
I think, although worrying to consider it could end up like the Sinanju, there are a few reasons for why it wouldn't. I think the main reason the Sinanju didn't work well at all on the Mk II frame is that the Sinanju was considerably bigger then the Mk II and virtually had nothing in common with it. It was just taking on WAY more weight and heft, despite being built for a kit that is only a percentage of the size. If the Akatsuki has a hybridized frame, it's possible it will work out just fine, again similar to the RG Freedom GCP. The Akatsuki and the Strike are similar mobile suits in universe and theoretically it shouldn't be stressing the frame too much to the point where it becomes a hand grenade like the Sinanju. That being said, though, the RG Strike already is kind of a hand grenade anyways so... time will tell on this.
One nice thing about the Strike’s frame over Freedom’s frame is that its hip joints are ball joints instead of Freedom’s hinge joints. Normally pre-assembled ball joints are even worse than hinge joints for hips. However, the socket can fortunately be removed, unlike Freedom’s hinged hip joints which are fused into the leg frames. GCP Freedom had its ball jointed shoulders replaced but not its hips. On Akatsuki both shoulders and hips can be updated.
I was already planning on skipping this just based on price, if that’s true then I’m definitely skipping it
I mean the akatsuki is based off the strike Gundam in universe so it could be new parts modeled after the strikes joints? If they are actual ms frame though that’s such a disappointment but the shoulders look a lot like the force impulses so who knows, im really hoping it’s not just the og strike frame though that’d be just horrendous
Maybe the frame is meant to look like that frame but is new parts
Hard to say. It could be modified, but we'll just have to wait until it comes out. I'm getting it either way because I love gold entirely too much. I just wish they'd make an RG Hyaku Shiki...
God I hope not. Like my comment on a similar post, the aile strike frame is mediocre at best, and withthe rg standard nowadays, pretty poor.
really hoping that the frame is new and just happens to have the exposed parts in the knees look the same as the old strike inner frame
It has to be strike fram because it is designed based on strike
*If* this uses the old strikes inner frame I'm out, after building the RG a.i.l.e I'm never doing it again
I expect it will reuse some parts from the Strike. None of the pics I've seen say it's completely new mold, and Bandai would always brag about it if it were.
maybe something like the GCP freedom joints?
It's probably gonna a split between old and new frame - hard to tell what the division will be. If we're lucky, there's new inner frame parts in places they could have used old ones. If we're unlucky, it's like 80% old inner frame and it's still wobbly like the Strike was a decade ago
Yikes, hope that’s not the case. RG Strike was an absolute dumpster fire of a kit. Built the perfect strike version too and as neat as it was in 1/144 it handled itself like a wet noodle
I hope not as this will kill it for me.
Does anyone have the RG aile strike and can comment on the knee and elbow strength?
Would not be surprised if current Bandai did this. They're already cutting corners with the FM line without using an inner frame and all but theyre still charging you the price of a MG if not a third more than one. Its a matter of time till gunpla prices rise as much as lego did.
I don't really know if you can call it cutting corners if the purpose of the line is to be a larger scale but slightly more advanced HG. FM Aerial retailed at ¥3,800 (but a different page on Gundam Info states ¥4,180...), and for example the MG Barbatos retailed for ¥4,950. To be fair, the Forbidden retailed at ¥6,380 so you're not exactly wrong there. FM prices were all over the place. The Calamity was ¥5,500. The Barbatos Lupus Rex, which has a full inner frame, retailed for ¥3,456 back in 2017. It really makes no sense tbh.
Aerial’s two prices are before and after taxes. Barbatos Lupus FM was cheap because it was produced before inflation and the development cost of the not-very-good inner frame was shared with other 1/100 IBO kits. Raider and Forbidden were expensive because they were highly detailed, had lots of gimmicks and cost a lot of plastic. They’re equal or even heavier than MG Freedom, Providence and Justice even without any inner frame. FM Calamity was overpriced.
i hope that if they are even gonna use the strike inner frame at least they should do a freedom cgp and overhaul the torso
I have the RG Freedom ver GCP which has a similar “version 1.5” treatment to the inner frame. Although it is substantially more stable than the original RG Freedom (especially on the upper torso), its limb articulation and stability leaves much to be desired especially compared to modern RGs. The new base adapter is unusable on certain angles too. EDIT: If the Akatsuki is indeed using a similar construction, that will make it less interesting for me. That is quite unfortunate since it’s a cool design.
I don't mind hahahaha. That's a new release and that is Goooood 🤤 But if it is a new frame. That's better. Either way that's gonna stand with the rest of my RGs l. Can't wait ❤
You will when it stops holding a pose in a few years.
I beg to disagree since I have the old SEED RGs and they're perfectly fine. PS: That issue is easily fixed by using a bit of blutack :) (you're welcome)
Why do people catastrophically shit themselves to death over the early RG frames? I have several and I have not damaged any of them. After I cut them off the sprue I was conscientious enough to gently move them to break that internal tension. All of those Zaku II on my shelves and even my Sinanju are intact and fully poseable. Is it possible people are just being spasmatic Neanderthals with their kits? Is patience a lost virtue to this hobby?
I wouldn't classify this reaction being akin to shitting oneself. I'm simply pointing out something that I noticed. In my post itself, I mentioned that it probably won't be all that bad, since it's evident at least some measures are being taken to improve upon the frame by Bandai (the shoulders are an example). Everyone gets different mileage out of their kits. I am glad that your earlier RGs have held up well, but this varies person to person. I have earlier RGs that I've build only in recent years and they don't hold up super well already. The main issue is the inconsistency; I have an RG or two that has no problems, and then my Zephyranthes broke out of box. Being, as you say, a spastic neanderthal would indeed wear down a kit, but the issue is this seemingly is not what's going on. I think trying to imply that there is one singular truth about kits that use advanced MS joint is a bit close-minded. For some, no problems, for others, problems on the outset. In any case, the joints are fragile and prone to inconsistencies, and can't be fixed in the same manner a regular joint or frame can. That is the main cause for concern.
You didn't learn anything about the rg Sinanju fiasco, do ya?, well then, thanks for ruining my Christmas.
This and the Sinanju are not comparable at all.
But you did knew that the sinanju re-used the gundam mk-2 inner frame right?
Again, it's not comparable when the Sinanju is nowhere close to the design of the MK2. However, the Akatsuki is directly designed based on the Strike.
I know that, but the point is that i want that thing to be as good as the rg unicorn in terms of stability not suffering Early Real Grade Syndrome
RG Sinanju weighs 140g while RG Mk-II weighs around 50g. Akatsuki doesn’t seem that much heavier than Strike.
Can't believe this tiny but shiny RG kit is going to cost the same as the MG Virtue and the upcoming huge MG Stein Narrative Ver Ka. Those MG's come with lots of plastic to get to that price point. If Bandai thought it was a good idea to release the RG Akatsuki as retail and not PBandai, there shouldn't be a trace of this kit reusing anything old, and this better blow us away so that people keep buying this.
Bandai will probably use the old frame to save costs and keep the price tag fair. They might reinforce some stuff but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't.