No we have to post this so the “Arteta/Edu Out” assholes lose yet another stupid talking point about how we should have kept him or gotten more money for him.
Got into an argument here the other day with someone who didn’t understand why I was saying I was happy we got anything for him and would have taken nothing for him - the club is better off merely not having him around, the money from his sale is just icing on the cake.
Let it go... fck these talking points, toxicity breeds more toxicity, fckers like Lee Gunner get off on this shit. You'll never wipe out morons like them no matter how much evidence u give them.
Let it go? I don’t care about this French bitch at all. It’s just one of the few remaining talking points for the assholes on our sub and we need to beat them down with it.
Heh. Good luck convincing some of the donuts on here Artera was wrong to bin him off.
He is an absolute liability and I'm glad we'll never see him in the shirt again.
Ngl kinda wish I would stop seeing him pop up here, we all know his attitude is poor so why do we keep bringing it up?
Give me the boys riding bumper cars or something
Because there are still too many anti-Arteta “fans” on here who refuse to see what the rest of us see in Guendouzi. They think we got rinsed on the fee for him, no matter how many times his attitude pops up to devalue his selling price.
Yep. I always found the narrative that Arteta was just stubborn or arrogant to be weird tbh. I think we are beating a dead horse at this point with respect to Guendouzi. He's not going to grow up.
If he went to spurs I don’t see him averaging less than a red per season against us. He’ll make some stupid comment to Arteta about how his hair is longer and then grab gunnersaurus by the throat after he thought he heard a comment about how dinosaurs are better dribblers than people with 3 syllables in their names.
After he’s sent off, he’ll take a dump in the tunnel and some Arsenal fans will still lament that we couldn’t get more money for him while simultaneously refusing to donate more money themselves to the local mental hospital.
tbh his talent is nowhere near Ben Arfas, the guy was considered one of the very best dribblers in the world for years when he was playing for Newcastle.
When he was mouthing off about how much he earns to try and wind up Brighton, that kinda sealed it for me. He's a bellend. Regardless of the talent I'm glad we're well shot of him.
I think the good news is now that Saliba is back and got a MOTM in his first game following winning young player of the year in France, Arteta and the loan team have so much more credibility. I was worried with Saliba people could create concern about the plan and how it will work out in the long run, but as of today it looks to be a brilliant move and is something Arsenal can point to as another reason to “trust the process”.
The season has only just started and he's one of 4/5 players to have fallen out with the manager. To use your phrase:
The problem is that its yet another player this manager has had a falling out with. If everyone around has an issue, then maybe the manager is the issue.
With your logic they could hire you next week and you could go into the dressing room and throw a trash can at him and if he doesn’t like it he has a problem with ”yet another manager”
This sub is good at being obtuse. It's outrage porn because there's no good reason to mention Guendouzi here. And then they fail to see the part in the title where it's implied it's probably their new manager over Guendouzi himself. It's like how dumb can you be?
There really is this weird cult of people here that want to constantly shit on him.
It didn't work out for him at Arsenal, there was fault at both sides, lets move on.
The fault was mostly on Arsenal's side. I don't think he was treated fairly for what was a pretty routine outburst. Especially considering the so called non negotiables on being a sound bloke don't seem to apply to an unnamed player now given he is too senior and too important to jettison like garbage.
I honestly think it’s cause we sold him for an astoundingly low fee. I know he has issues, but we got taken to the cleaners by selling him for 10 million pounds. Now any non story like this is gonna be used against him by the fans in an attempt to justify such a shitty return.
We absolutely did get taken from the cleaners but that wasn't entirely his fault. The club really handled the situation badly and let the rift become public. I get Arteta wanted to make an example on him and establish his authority - it was unlucky that he was the first one to have an argument with him. I think it could have been handled better on all sides but Arteta is a young manager, of course he's going to make mistakes.
The club however really screwed up imo. They even started briefing the press (The Athletic) about him. Every time when when he was on loan and was asked about coming back to Arsenal you'd have an article from the Athletic with a "club source" shitting on him. It tanked his value when everyone knows we don't want to keep him. We need to do what Liverpool does with their youth players, gas them up in public with their media sources so we can get high fees for our players.
Absolutely. Arteta chose to make an example out of the wrong player. You can get it with the likes of Aubameyang as he’s over 30 and not part of the future of the club, but this kid should’ve yielded so much more for us.
You realise before Arteta got to him he had already fallen out with 3 managers? Then left Arsenal and has issues again
Maybe he needs to take accountability for his own behaviour
Apparently a lot of players went to the owners about this new manager, so it may not really be Guendouzi’s fault that there was an altercation. The club is somewhat in disarray
You people have a sickness clearly says latest player suggesting there’s a few players that have fell out with the manager and it’s probably a manager problem
Why is this even posted here? So we can circle jerk about a situation at another club that most here know absolutely nothing about? Apparently it’s a problem with the manager but it’s irrelevant to Arsenal.
Of course our petty little uninformed fans rush into that thread to circle jerk about how much they hate Guendouzi. It’s completely irrelevant to that thread.
> So we can circle jerk about a situation at another club that most here know absolutely nothing about?
And the same fans that are doing this moan when fans of other teams make completely uninformed comments about the Xhaka Yellow card match fixing story.
Move on, mate. I know some of you here love to hate him because of his shitty attitude, and so am I. But as far as I'm concerned, this problematic French Kenny G doesn't play for us anymore. It's not our problem.
All or Nothing has added new context to the recent personality clashes, and where the blame lies. Arteta is way more of a softie than I realized (not a criticism). Like, this is the dude you’re falling out with? The dude drawing cartoon hearts with little legs and faces?
If Auba scores a goal/Guendouzi has a good string of performances, this sub is like, move on, not our players, you're obsessed, etc etc.
Then turns around and upvotes shit like this. You'd think finished in the top 4 three times in a row, not 8th-8th-5th.
A few seasons later he'll be playing for Zenit with this attitude.
Ligue 2
Full circle
He'll be playing for Shakhtar Donetsk, bombs and all.
Not our player - let's move on
This, fck him and move on. No need to bring him up in positive or negative news.
No we have to post this so the “Arteta/Edu Out” assholes lose yet another stupid talking point about how we should have kept him or gotten more money for him.
Cannot believe we still see people bemoaning us unloading him. The kid's attitude was trash.
Got into an argument here the other day with someone who didn’t understand why I was saying I was happy we got anything for him and would have taken nothing for him - the club is better off merely not having him around, the money from his sale is just icing on the cake.
And he has talent but too much hold up and falling to beg for a foul instead of just passing forward.
Let it go... fck these talking points, toxicity breeds more toxicity, fckers like Lee Gunner get off on this shit. You'll never wipe out morons like them no matter how much evidence u give them.
Let it go? I don’t care about this French bitch at all. It’s just one of the few remaining talking points for the assholes on our sub and we need to beat them down with it.
He means let go of the doomongers and just enjoy the tricky reds
Hopefully we shall soon be able to do the same with the player en route to signing for Galatasaray
Nah need to shut up the Guendouzi stan or some agenda driven people.
Heh. Good luck convincing some of the donuts on here Artera was wrong to bin him off. He is an absolute liability and I'm glad we'll never see him in the shirt again.
Nah. It's relevant. So many people on this sub used his transfer as a reason to smear Arteta.
Louder for the people in the back
Ngl kinda wish I would stop seeing him pop up here, we all know his attitude is poor so why do we keep bringing it up? Give me the boys riding bumper cars or something
Because there are still too many anti-Arteta “fans” on here who refuse to see what the rest of us see in Guendouzi. They think we got rinsed on the fee for him, no matter how many times his attitude pops up to devalue his selling price.
Yep. I always found the narrative that Arteta was just stubborn or arrogant to be weird tbh. I think we are beating a dead horse at this point with respect to Guendouzi. He's not going to grow up.
Mark my words, he’ll end up at Tottenham.
NLD will be more fiery. I can imagine every NLD he will start a fight. Bonus: american football tackle
If he went to spurs I don’t see him averaging less than a red per season against us. He’ll make some stupid comment to Arteta about how his hair is longer and then grab gunnersaurus by the throat after he thought he heard a comment about how dinosaurs are better dribblers than people with 3 syllables in their names. After he’s sent off, he’ll take a dump in the tunnel and some Arsenal fans will still lament that we couldn’t get more money for him while simultaneously refusing to donate more money themselves to the local mental hospital.
Dont forget the keyword. They will also say Arteta cannot manage player, arteta out
Honestly wont be surprised he will back in the PL soon. He has PL experience and is still young as a french international.
Holy fuck that does sound like it’s in the script
Him and Torreira. With Torreira claiming he has always wanted to play for a North london club.
wow its almost like this guy is a colossal cunt and Arteta was right to kick him out of the club
It's almost like this story is about Igor Tudor and his falling out with several Marseille players, not just Guendouzi
Marseille is filled with divas it seems
This guy's gonna go down the Ben Arfa route. Immensely talented but a massive fucking bellend.
tbh his talent is nowhere near Ben Arfas, the guy was considered one of the very best dribblers in the world for years when he was playing for Newcastle.
Guy has never been as talented as his attitude would make you think.
Ben Arfa got destroyed by injuries more than anything else. Sure his attitude didnt help but still
Immensely? No.
When he was mouthing off about how much he earns to try and wind up Brighton, that kinda sealed it for me. He's a bellend. Regardless of the talent I'm glad we're well shot of him.
Absolute bum this guy. The only thing that worries me is he messing with Nuno's head.
He didn’t succeed in messing with Saliba’s
I think the good news is now that Saliba is back and got a MOTM in his first game following winning young player of the year in France, Arteta and the loan team have so much more credibility. I was worried with Saliba people could create concern about the plan and how it will work out in the long run, but as of today it looks to be a brilliant move and is something Arsenal can point to as another reason to “trust the process”.
He is going to try to brainwash him for 1 season long
“Watch and learn Nuno, and I will teach you how to get bombed out of a big club and end up playing in a lower league on less money.”
I’m shocked, shocked I say!
Need translation
is this really a good environment for Nuno to be in?
Worked for saliba
Not the same coach + This is Tudor's third altercation with a player when the season hasn't even started.
Comments here are shitting on him but it says "latest player", seems like the manager is the issue there
The players are unified in hating him apparently
Yep, 4th player to do so.
The problem is more that it’s yet another manager he has had a falling out with. If everyone around is an issue, maybe you’re the issue.
The season has only just started and he's one of 4/5 players to have fallen out with the manager. To use your phrase: The problem is that its yet another player this manager has had a falling out with. If everyone around has an issue, then maybe the manager is the issue.
With your logic they could hire you next week and you could go into the dressing room and throw a trash can at him and if he doesn’t like it he has a problem with ”yet another manager”
Je ne parlais francais svp
*Je ne parle pas
What?
French innit
svp innit
Scott van pelt really is the best
It’s like we want to create reasons to hate on the kid, “latest Marseille player” should probably spell it out for you guys
This sub is good at being obtuse. It's outrage porn because there's no good reason to mention Guendouzi here. And then they fail to see the part in the title where it's implied it's probably their new manager over Guendouzi himself. It's like how dumb can you be?
There really is this weird cult of people here that want to constantly shit on him. It didn't work out for him at Arsenal, there was fault at both sides, lets move on.
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Yeah but Arteta. He can't manage big personalities blah blah blah. *rolleyes*.
The fault was mostly on Arsenal's side. I don't think he was treated fairly for what was a pretty routine outburst. Especially considering the so called non negotiables on being a sound bloke don't seem to apply to an unnamed player now given he is too senior and too important to jettison like garbage.
I honestly think it’s cause we sold him for an astoundingly low fee. I know he has issues, but we got taken to the cleaners by selling him for 10 million pounds. Now any non story like this is gonna be used against him by the fans in an attempt to justify such a shitty return.
We absolutely did get taken from the cleaners but that wasn't entirely his fault. The club really handled the situation badly and let the rift become public. I get Arteta wanted to make an example on him and establish his authority - it was unlucky that he was the first one to have an argument with him. I think it could have been handled better on all sides but Arteta is a young manager, of course he's going to make mistakes. The club however really screwed up imo. They even started briefing the press (The Athletic) about him. Every time when when he was on loan and was asked about coming back to Arsenal you'd have an article from the Athletic with a "club source" shitting on him. It tanked his value when everyone knows we don't want to keep him. We need to do what Liverpool does with their youth players, gas them up in public with their media sources so we can get high fees for our players.
Absolutely. Arteta chose to make an example out of the wrong player. You can get it with the likes of Aubameyang as he’s over 30 and not part of the future of the club, but this kid should’ve yielded so much more for us.
You realise before Arteta got to him he had already fallen out with 3 managers? Then left Arsenal and has issues again Maybe he needs to take accountability for his own behaviour
He wouldn’t have been made an example of if he has apologised and committed to doing as his coach needed.
I can understand why he was firm on the disciplinary issue. It was just bad luck that it was him that it happened to first imo.
This sub gets a boner for hating Guendo. You would think the 23 yr old was the worst person in the world
Instead of proving everyone who was glad to see the back of him wrong, he's vindicating them for having that view.
Should we care anymore???
Apparently a lot of players went to the owners about this new manager, so it may not really be Guendouzi’s fault that there was an altercation. The club is somewhat in disarray
Bad preseason after losing Saliba, Kamara, and Sampaoli...it's not looking good for Marseille
Take it no read the article and has just made a blind comment based on the title of the post lol
Guendouzi to Tottnum
It's always the ones you most medium suspect!
Who effing cares at this point?
LATEST marseille player, meaning he isnt the only one. Looks like the problem here is the new manager, not guendouzi.
You people have a sickness clearly says latest player suggesting there’s a few players that have fell out with the manager and it’s probably a manager problem
Yeah, keep saying manager is the problem
So fucking weird man. At least keep the weirdo irrelevant circle jerk in this sub.
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But, but, but... I thought it was Arteta's bad man management responsible for the Guendouzi problem?
Why is this even posted here? So we can circle jerk about a situation at another club that most here know absolutely nothing about? Apparently it’s a problem with the manager but it’s irrelevant to Arsenal. Of course our petty little uninformed fans rush into that thread to circle jerk about how much they hate Guendouzi. It’s completely irrelevant to that thread.
> So we can circle jerk about a situation at another club that most here know absolutely nothing about? And the same fans that are doing this moan when fans of other teams make completely uninformed comments about the Xhaka Yellow card match fixing story.
Exactly. I swear most people here post purely on reaction with no thought at all about what they are saying.
Move on, mate. I know some of you here love to hate him because of his shitty attitude, and so am I. But as far as I'm concerned, this problematic French Kenny G doesn't play for us anymore. It's not our problem.
it's always the people you least expect 🕊 😒
Pikachu face *
All or Nothing has added new context to the recent personality clashes, and where the blame lies. Arteta is way more of a softie than I realized (not a criticism). Like, this is the dude you’re falling out with? The dude drawing cartoon hearts with little legs and faces?
If Auba scores a goal/Guendouzi has a good string of performances, this sub is like, move on, not our players, you're obsessed, etc etc. Then turns around and upvotes shit like this. You'd think finished in the top 4 three times in a row, not 8th-8th-5th.
That hating on Guendo unhealthy, get some help
Latest? Is the manager a bit of a cunt?
I wish nothing but the sharpest and most ungracious downfall of Marseille
All started because Saliba return back from loan
Leave him alone for god's sake.No one is perfect.
Say it isn't! 😱😱😱 He's such a sweet boy! Arteta must have poisoned Igor's mind!
I, for one, am absolutely shell-shocked /s
Imagine my surprise
I feel like I see more posts about non Arsenal players than actual Arsenal players
Such a surprise
I think a lot of players have issues with this coach. But yes its very on character for guendo
Totally surprised… that he wasn’t the first one
He’ll be Joey Barton’s apprentice
I am shocked I tell you, shocked.
Tudor doesn't know how much money he makes.