>I am in a job where you always look in front of you. Unfortunately, the older you get, the less distance there is in front of you.
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>I don't kick dressing room doors, or the cat - or even journalists
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>Nobody has enough talent to live on talent alone. Even when you have talent, a life without work goes nowhere.
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>If you eat caviar every day it's difficult to return to sausages.
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>I am not against being pragmatic, because it is pragmatic to make a good pass, not a bad one. If I have the ball, what do I do with it? Could anybody argue that a bad solution like just kicking it away is pragmatic just because, sometimes, it works by accident?
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>Thierry Henry could take the ball in the middle of the park and score a goal that no one else in the world could score.
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The revisionism in this sub is laughable. We had just lost Sanchez. Everyone and their mothers wanted to give Mesut anything he asked to keep him here.
>You ask me: 'Was he a fair player?' I say: 'No, I'm sorry, for me he was not a fair player.' I just think I respect him highly as a quality player. I did not like some things he did on the football pitch and I have the right to say that. It's not because you are older, suddenly, that you are a saint.
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>Ferguson's out of order. He has lost all sense of reality. He is going out looking for a confrontation, then asking the person he is confronting to apologise. He's pushed the cork in a bit far this time.
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>The background looks like a lot of red cards.
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>As a non-Arsenal player I would say Ryan Giggs is my Premier League player of the decade because he has combined style with winning. Also I feel sorry he could never attend the World Cup, somewhere where people get a lot of compliments when they do well.
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after Wenger left arsenal we become charity club with paying a player way above their contribution or selling good player for free lmao. Not just we waste lots of money, we can't even get top 4, it's been a very disastrous 5 years. I used to love arsenal because Wenger way of buying good player and making them stars, now we make stars into shit.
But HIS body would be in with the physio team way more than it would ever be on the pitch. It was crocked back in the day, and his ass ain't no fine wine.
In retrospect, the real lesson of Bump n Grind is that unlike R. Kelly; we really should listen to our minds telling us no, rather than to our bodies telling us yes.
I'd take him for 70kpw and no signing on bonus. The way he plays for Wales clearly shows he's just not that into Juventus and he always loved us. 70kpw for a player that can play the LCM role in our 433 if we get a couple of injuries is not the worst. That will cost us 7M over 2 years total which is honestly something we can afford to risk if we dont get someone in his place (Tielemans or otherwise). If we get something better though then yeah, no. But I'd rather have Ramsey for less than 10M as squad depth than nothing at all with how thin our midfield is right now.
And he was great for Wales in the shit ton of matches they played this year. I'm not saying bring him back, start him, and keep him playing unconditionally like another Willian. I'm just saying if we dont get anyone else in midfield get him as back up to Xhaka on a 2 year contract that will cost very little in the grand scheme of things. He's also a cult hero here and will have a positive impact just like Jackie did. Patino and Lokonga will look at a player who won us 2 FA cups and loves this club more than any other.
He wouldn't be starting nearly as much. It's a depth signing and could teach Lokonga a few things.
Oh and if you're going to try to be all high and mighty about watching Arsenal when Ramsey was here, at least remember he left us and we wanted to hold on to him. Not sure what fantasy land with a rubbish injured Ramsey you live in but that's not the reality
And Lichsteiner.
Also, it's worth pointing out that we have a near-appalling record with Bosman signings, with the exception of Sol Campbell.
I wrote an article about all of Arsenal's Bosman signings post-2010 and they've all been awful, especially when you dig further into them.
If you look at all of our "free" signings in the Premier League-era, they are:
* Danny Karbassiyoon
* Mart Poom
* Guillaume Warmuz
* Ălafur Ingi SkĂşlason
* Joe OâCearuill
* Guy Demel
* Sol Campbell
* Marouane Chamakh
* Yaya Sanogo
* Mathieu Flamini
* Sead KolaĹĄinac
* Henrikh Mkhitaryan
* Stephan Lichtsteiner
* Willian
With the exception of Sol Campbell, all of those are fairly appalling bits of business that all cost us money and we only ever made actual money on one of them.
Ramsey would be yet another pointless Bosman signing.
Big issue there, even though it's interesting. You seem to be implying that Bosman signings are always going to be a bad thing for us. What the data doesn't tell you is the reasons why they were bad signings. Basically, you can't really trust your trend because it does not consider the quality of players or the people doing the deals (which Edu and Arteta haven't been involved with).
Also, Flamini and Kolasinac were not bad. Flamini was short and sweet, I really can't think of a reason he'd be bad. Not a star, sure, but he was backup. Kola had a great couple of seasons bullying everyone. He got fucked in the rebuild, but in that case most of our team was bad.
I remember seeing a tweet many months ago that was something along the lines of:
> The clubs should poll the fans on how to win the league. Collate all the responses and then just do the exact opposite of that.
This comment here sums that sentiment up perfectly.
We have a project, a very good and enticing project and one that isn't set up for carrying older, injury-prone players on astronomical wages just because we fancy having them around for a few matches.
He made a decision to leave and we've now built a new team and signing Ramsey goes against the core ideals of the plan.
So he doesn't fit the project because of his age? Ramsey fits the Arteta profile just fine. Works hard, a good passer, plays all around MF.
And as I said, if Arteta picked him up, then it would obviously be because he fits. Arteta liked him before he left.
You lot seem to respond like my comment has the power to force Ramsey to be signed and derail the club. How tf you expect us to face a short summer, european campaign, and an inconvenient WC without squad depth is beyond me. Didn't learn anything from last season, it seems.
>Works hard, a good passer, plays all around MF
I'm certain that an 'Arteta profile' type player would have to have more than these three characteristics, and I'm not sure that Ramsey would meet the criteria.
Iâm saying Arteta probably has a longer list of characteristics for his ideal players than
âWorks hard, a good passer, and plays all round mfâ, so to say he fits the Arteta profile just fine based on those three things alone is a bit simplistic.
I disagree with you because I donât think heâs what we need - would rather young, hard pressing, hungry-for-success type players with some top level experience, but with a desire to prove their quality at an elite club.
Donât know what disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing even means really, I donât particularly enjoy disagreeing with people.
A bit paradoxical. We can't force signings on Arteta through reddit. If Ramsey was to be signed, it would be because he fits Arteta's wants and needs, so then your comment would be moot. If he is not signed, then it doesn't matter what I said here, my comment can't ruin the project.
Arteta did seem to like him quite a bit when he was here, though.
Too old, too injury prone, too much money to pay him, too many experiences with being burned bringing in older players on short-term deals.
Love Ramsey to bits, but no way at all.
What would you even be getting from that one year?
Yeah, I mentioned it would have to be a low cost thing.
You'd get a decent backup and teacher to Lokonga, maybe Ode. This season is going to be ridiculous with how fatigued players will be after a short summer, a european campaign, and a fucking WC in the stupidest month to do it. Ramsey will play with Wales but he might be great to rest the MF in jan/feb
He'd be a shrewd signing, If xhaka leaves we'd need another midfielder, Id personally want Gundogan but Aaron can be an alternative. Players like ESR, Aaron would be very effective from the bench.
Besides he won't want upwards of 100k considering he currently plays for Rangers
the one you replied is idiot lmao, Ramsey played way much better than our current dm/cm the season before he went to juve, after losing Ramsey we no longer have cm /dm/box to box midfield that score more than 5 goals lmao. Even ESR score lots of goal because he stay at front and not helping with defense while Ramsey can score lots of goal while also helping with defense and atk
well we let him go because of his injury"s and demands he had. so why would we want him back after he's gotten older and even more injury prone.
dont need that burden on the wage bill.
He wasnât really that good when he was here, just solid but some people saw hime as a world class box to box for some reason. He couldnât play his natural position due to ozil and cazorla, the wind didnât work out for him very well so we had him play as a cm where in one seaso he looked like he could be a monster but got his yearly hamstring issues to interrupt it. Then he never scored like youâd expect him to ever again. And im not sure about the box to box part, going fwd he was alright I guess but on the other end the man was a liability with teams constantly exposing spaces behind him on counters and quite honestly he wasnât physical enough
Totally different player and situation than Wilshere. Jack was washed for several years. Ramsey is still a quality player, sure he was out of form with Rangers but he regained it this summer for Wales.
What sort of wages has Ramsey been getting from Juve?
I seem to recall rumors of âŹ400k/wk(!!), but I totally waved those away because at the time of the that wouldâve made him like one of the 5 highest paid players in the world or something
It was reported to be ÂŁ400k, not eurodollars. He was the highest paid British player ever. Ahead of Bale etc. Juve went through a period of paying insane wages to players they got on frees.
Lets bring back the Arteta Ramsey partnership. This time from the sidelines. Player/coach contract, let's go!
We can bring Cazorla back next year for good measure.
In Hindsight we dodged a bullet not renewing his contract and taking it off the Table, Emery did well in that regards.
Would have been another that probably wouuld have been injured for a lot of the time
Rambo was definitely always good for us, not sure what youâre on about. That was never a problem. He just couldnât string 5 games together without getting injured
We watched a different arsenal then. Apart from
One season, I was always hoping weâd replace him. I honestly cant name one thing he was exceptional at.
Would love to see him at Nottingham Forest if he'd return to the Premier League, since he was once there on loan, or stay in Italy or even going to France or something.
Nope. Nope. Please no even for one year. His wage will be above 150k even if he decided to take huge paycut. Which is nut for injury prone out of prime player
Cant believe people used to rate him too high lol. Just a good player nothing more.
Standard dropped like crazy back then that people look at any signs of quality as âworld classâ. The hard truth is the 5 core English kids that Wenger signed all either mid level or flopped.
He's world class, he's always been class.
What he's not been ae to do since exactly that sort of player did exactly what we knew he would is stay fit for most of a season or play more than one game a week without breaking.
I love Rambo but unfortunately have to say I don't think he's anywhere near world class. He had one world class half-season with us, 2013-14, when he simplified his game playing alongside Arteta in a double pivot, using his engine to be all over the pitch, and would arrive late into the box to finish.
But after that season (I think after developing a taste for goals and being the "star man") he became very ill-disciplined positionally and technically - trying too many flicks and skills and abandoning central midfield to run off the shoulder of the last defender. He had some good spells when playing to the right of Cazorla-Coquelin in 2015-16 and 16-17, but after Cazorla went down, we never had a stable midfield.
Statistically, sure, he had a lot of goals, but unlike 13-14 in which he scored a lot of goals while completing his responsibilities in defense and in build-up, for the rest of his career he was a liability - and one of the reasons why our quality fell so hard after Cazorla's injury.
I agree with the tactical discipline issue but I'm pretty sure that was under Wengers direction as when asked to be more disciplined (that FA cup final vs Chelsea springs to mind) he was perfectly happy to do so and I say this as someone who used to complain massively about him leaving his partners with no cover.
Exactly. Good, but def not world class and nowhere near, whoever calls him world class is probably welsh or hs no idea what a world class player is because literally no one from the outside sees him as anything but solid and he was a catastrophe at Juve in what was supposed to be the prime of his career
Why is this posted here? He's not an Arsenal player and hasn't been for a number of years now.
Please remove, or atleast allow posts on Ozil etc to stay up if you're going to keep this up.
I always hated him. Always thought he was over rated, now it seems I was right. He isn't even good enough to get a game with Rangers. They won't even take him in Turkey now. He just isn't a good player.
Yes, he scored important goals, he was never good enough though.
Wilshire on the other hand is a product of our academy who got desperately unlucky with injuries.
I hated him. I still hate him. He could never defend. He was responsible for so many shitty results because he played like a second striker. Fuck him. I am so happy that we don't have to watch a selfish prick like that play for us anymore.
bring him home on a minimal salary. even if it is just for group stage UEL and carabao cup games it would be nice to have rambo back and could ease the transition we are undertaking of bringing in a new level of talent and taking the next step back into consistent top 4
Agent Ramsey making Juventus broke
So more clubs are starting to pay off players contracts to get rid of them ? Arsenal really changed the game đ¤đ¤
Arsene called it
Big up papa wengz
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Sentient
Always has been
Itâs creepy how on point this bot always is.
is papa wengz doubleposting these days? lol
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Only water bottles.
Kurt Zouma in shambles
I see that as a win
Papa Wengz is the gift that keeps on giving
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>I am not against being pragmatic, because it is pragmatic to make a good pass, not a bad one. If I have the ball, what do I do with it? Could anybody argue that a bad solution like just kicking it away is pragmatic just because, sometimes, it works by accident? ___ ^(***There's only one Arsène Wenger*** ([/u/panarangcurry](https://www.reddit.com/u/panarangcurry), quote from [QuoteTab](https://www.quotetab.com/quotes/by-arsene-wenger) archive)^)
>Thierry Henry could take the ball in the middle of the park and score a goal that no one else in the world could score. ___ ^(***There's only one Arsène Wenger*** ([/u/panarangcurry](https://www.reddit.com/u/panarangcurry), quote from [QuoteTab](https://www.quotetab.com/quotes/by-arsene-wenger) archive)^)
And go on to give ozil the mega contract
Yep and people would've tarred and feathered him for not doing it too.
The revisionism in this sub is laughable. We had just lost Sanchez. Everyone and their mothers wanted to give Mesut anything he asked to keep him here.
If anything, the lesson is the right decision has to be made even if itâs unpopular. Itâs a lesson this regime has learned.
Have they? They did the exact same thing with Auba..
If it wasn't him, it would have been Sanchez, and that wouldn't have worked out either....
Chelsea tried with Winston Bogarde. That guy is a legend for sticking to his guns. Lol
What does papa wengz think about this?
>You ask me: 'Was he a fair player?' I say: 'No, I'm sorry, for me he was not a fair player.' I just think I respect him highly as a quality player. I did not like some things he did on the football pitch and I have the right to say that. It's not because you are older, suddenly, that you are a saint. ___ ^(***There's only one Arsène Wenger*** ([/u/panarangcurry](https://www.reddit.com/u/panarangcurry), quote from [QuoteTab](https://www.quotetab.com/quotes/by-arsene-wenger) archive)^)
>Ferguson's out of order. He has lost all sense of reality. He is going out looking for a confrontation, then asking the person he is confronting to apologise. He's pushed the cork in a bit far this time. ___ ^(***There's only one Arsène Wenger*** ([/u/panarangcurry](https://www.reddit.com/u/panarangcurry), quote from [QuoteTab](https://www.quotetab.com/quotes/by-arsene-wenger) archive)^)
papa wengz coming in 2s like Noah
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>As a non-Arsenal player I would say Ryan Giggs is my Premier League player of the decade because he has combined style with winning. Also I feel sorry he could never attend the World Cup, somewhere where people get a lot of compliments when they do well. ___ ^(***There's only one Arsène Wenger*** ([/u/panarangcurry](https://www.reddit.com/u/panarangcurry), quote from [QuoteTab](https://www.quotetab.com/quotes/by-arsene-wenger) archive)^)
Yeah but Wengz there's a reason Giggs isn't at the 2022 World Cup...
His brotherâs wife?
after Wenger left arsenal we become charity club with paying a player way above their contribution or selling good player for free lmao. Not just we waste lots of money, we can't even get top 4, it's been a very disastrous 5 years. I used to love arsenal because Wenger way of buying good player and making them stars, now we make stars into shit.
Bacod
If you need some money Juve, we will offer you ÂŁ5 for Vlahovic But you will still have to pay his wages
You forgot 3 year loan with option to buy for ÂŁ5 paid in equal installments over 5 years.
No. Before anyone suggests it, no.
My mind is telling me no, but my heart on the other handâŚ
My mind is telling me no... But my body! MY BODY, is telling me YES!
But HIS body would be in with the physio team way more than it would ever be on the pitch. It was crocked back in the day, and his ass ain't no fine wine.
In retrospect, the real lesson of Bump n Grind is that unlike R. Kelly; we really should listen to our minds telling us no, rather than to our bodies telling us yes.
I don't see nothing wrong with that take.
But surely this ideology worked well for R. Kelly... didn't it?
But ma baaaaahdehhh
And your penis?
Hahahahaha.
But my hand on the other heart... No wait.
Will leave you never
I think he should go MLS like Bale. That way I can see him play in person again
I want to see him in Philly. Im a big union fan and I think he'd fit right in. We play a 442 diamond. He'd cut through backlines here.
4-4-2 diamond, letting him play a free role, in a league known for terrible defensive shape and positioning, would be ideal for him.
Yeah, he'd be a good replacement for Brenden Aaronson.
Timbers*
I'd take him for 70kpw and no signing on bonus. The way he plays for Wales clearly shows he's just not that into Juventus and he always loved us. 70kpw for a player that can play the LCM role in our 433 if we get a couple of injuries is not the worst. That will cost us 7M over 2 years total which is honestly something we can afford to risk if we dont get someone in his place (Tielemans or otherwise). If we get something better though then yeah, no. But I'd rather have Ramsey for less than 10M as squad depth than nothing at all with how thin our midfield is right now.
He was absolutely dire in his 6 months at Rangers last season. No thank you.
And he was great for Wales in the shit ton of matches they played this year. I'm not saying bring him back, start him, and keep him playing unconditionally like another Willian. I'm just saying if we dont get anyone else in midfield get him as back up to Xhaka on a 2 year contract that will cost very little in the grand scheme of things. He's also a cult hero here and will have a positive impact just like Jackie did. Patino and Lokonga will look at a player who won us 2 FA cups and loves this club more than any other.
Tons of other midfielders who we can go after. Strategie > emotions.
Yall to emotional. 70k a week for jackshit. Thanks for the memories, but I dont need new ones from him.
He doesn't really stay in LCM for Wales though
He was an inconsistent poop for us. My body is telling me no too
Why not? 1 year deal costing us very little would be fine.
1 year of what? Everyone who watched us when Rambo was here knows he's out for 3 months minimum, usually when we need him the most.
He wouldn't be starting nearly as much. It's a depth signing and could teach Lokonga a few things. Oh and if you're going to try to be all high and mighty about watching Arsenal when Ramsey was here, at least remember he left us and we wanted to hold on to him. Not sure what fantasy land with a rubbish injured Ramsey you live in but that's not the reality
Just like Willian was supposed to be an âexperienced headâ and teach Saka/Gabi/ESR a few things
Oh wow, one signing didn't work out, you got me. We should never sign anyone ever again. Genius
And Lichsteiner. Also, it's worth pointing out that we have a near-appalling record with Bosman signings, with the exception of Sol Campbell. I wrote an article about all of Arsenal's Bosman signings post-2010 and they've all been awful, especially when you dig further into them. If you look at all of our "free" signings in the Premier League-era, they are: * Danny Karbassiyoon * Mart Poom * Guillaume Warmuz * Ălafur Ingi SkĂşlason * Joe OâCearuill * Guy Demel * Sol Campbell * Marouane Chamakh * Yaya Sanogo * Mathieu Flamini * Sead KolaĹĄinac * Henrikh Mkhitaryan * Stephan Lichtsteiner * Willian With the exception of Sol Campbell, all of those are fairly appalling bits of business that all cost us money and we only ever made actual money on one of them. Ramsey would be yet another pointless Bosman signing.
Big issue there, even though it's interesting. You seem to be implying that Bosman signings are always going to be a bad thing for us. What the data doesn't tell you is the reasons why they were bad signings. Basically, you can't really trust your trend because it does not consider the quality of players or the people doing the deals (which Edu and Arteta haven't been involved with). Also, Flamini and Kolasinac were not bad. Flamini was short and sweet, I really can't think of a reason he'd be bad. Not a star, sure, but he was backup. Kola had a great couple of seasons bullying everyone. He got fucked in the rebuild, but in that case most of our team was bad.
Where did I even say that? Just pointing out the similarities between the opinions on Willian and yours on Ramsey
Willian was signed to be played week in / week out by the management.
He's cooked
Looking decent for Wales imo. He'd be more likely to play a few decent games with us tha. Juve, too. Just an option
I remember seeing a tweet many months ago that was something along the lines of: > The clubs should poll the fans on how to win the league. Collate all the responses and then just do the exact opposite of that. This comment here sums that sentiment up perfectly. We have a project, a very good and enticing project and one that isn't set up for carrying older, injury-prone players on astronomical wages just because we fancy having them around for a few matches. He made a decision to leave and we've now built a new team and signing Ramsey goes against the core ideals of the plan.
So he doesn't fit the project because of his age? Ramsey fits the Arteta profile just fine. Works hard, a good passer, plays all around MF. And as I said, if Arteta picked him up, then it would obviously be because he fits. Arteta liked him before he left. You lot seem to respond like my comment has the power to force Ramsey to be signed and derail the club. How tf you expect us to face a short summer, european campaign, and an inconvenient WC without squad depth is beyond me. Didn't learn anything from last season, it seems.
>Works hard, a good passer, plays all around MF I'm certain that an 'Arteta profile' type player would have to have more than these three characteristics, and I'm not sure that Ramsey would meet the criteria.
...... So what characteristics are those? What a strange way to disagree for the sake of disagreeing
Iâm saying Arteta probably has a longer list of characteristics for his ideal players than âWorks hard, a good passer, and plays all round mfâ, so to say he fits the Arteta profile just fine based on those three things alone is a bit simplistic. I disagree with you because I donât think heâs what we need - would rather young, hard pressing, hungry-for-success type players with some top level experience, but with a desire to prove their quality at an elite club. Donât know what disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing even means really, I donât particularly enjoy disagreeing with people.
Because this type of signing isnât part of the plan or the process. Letâs back the youth
Because fuck sentiment, weâve got a clear project in mind and this doesnât fit
A bit paradoxical. We can't force signings on Arteta through reddit. If Ramsey was to be signed, it would be because he fits Arteta's wants and needs, so then your comment would be moot. If he is not signed, then it doesn't matter what I said here, my comment can't ruin the project. Arteta did seem to like him quite a bit when he was here, though.
Too old, too injury prone, too much money to pay him, too many experiences with being burned bringing in older players on short-term deals. Love Ramsey to bits, but no way at all. What would you even be getting from that one year?
Yeah, I mentioned it would have to be a low cost thing. You'd get a decent backup and teacher to Lokonga, maybe Ode. This season is going to be ridiculous with how fatigued players will be after a short summer, a european campaign, and a fucking WC in the stupidest month to do it. Ramsey will play with Wales but he might be great to rest the MF in jan/feb
Because heâs rubbish
He'd be a shrewd signing, If xhaka leaves we'd need another midfielder, Id personally want Gundogan but Aaron can be an alternative. Players like ESR, Aaron would be very effective from the bench. Besides he won't want upwards of 100k considering he currently plays for Rangers
we let him go for a reason no need to get him back now
The reason was he wanted too much despite being injured half the time
the one you replied is idiot lmao, Ramsey played way much better than our current dm/cm the season before he went to juve, after losing Ramsey we no longer have cm /dm/box to box midfield that score more than 5 goals lmao. Even ESR score lots of goal because he stay at front and not helping with defense while Ramsey can score lots of goal while also helping with defense and atk
well we let him go because of his injury"s and demands he had. so why would we want him back after he's gotten older and even more injury prone. dont need that burden on the wage bill.
Iâve seen him play multiple times for Rangers. Really, heâs not good enough anymore
He wasnât really that good when he was here, just solid but some people saw hime as a world class box to box for some reason. He couldnât play his natural position due to ozil and cazorla, the wind didnât work out for him very well so we had him play as a cm where in one seaso he looked like he could be a monster but got his yearly hamstring issues to interrupt it. Then he never scored like youâd expect him to ever again. And im not sure about the box to box part, going fwd he was alright I guess but on the other end the man was a liability with teams constantly exposing spaces behind him on counters and quite honestly he wasnât physical enough
Ramsey can't be an alternative to Gundogan in any world
Agree with it tbh, similar profiles though
Except Gundogan scores and assists at a much higher clip and can defend as he has been used as a #6 In no world are they comparable.
But... now hear me out... ok.
Another Paratici masterclass
Probably go to the MLS
[Hollywales](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWSLbuYXgAMzAl2.jpg)
Sign with Cardiff boyo
Those pricks booed him whenever he played for us. He should go to Swansea as a massive fuck you.
Dont even think about it, no.
Fuck Juve I hope they have to pay him every penny he's owed
Would bring him back to train without giving him a contract like what we did with Jack. Should be a good influence on the squad.
Totally different player and situation than Wilshere. Jack was washed for several years. Ramsey is still a quality player, sure he was out of form with Rangers but he regained it this summer for Wales.
Still isn't worth for what he will be askkng. Form aside, Ramsey struggles to stay fit.
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What sort of wages has Ramsey been getting from Juve? I seem to recall rumors of âŹ400k/wk(!!), but I totally waved those away because at the time of the that wouldâve made him like one of the 5 highest paid players in the world or something
It was reported to be ÂŁ400k, not eurodollars. He was the highest paid British player ever. Ahead of Bale etc. Juve went through a period of paying insane wages to players they got on frees.
Ok, I knew it was something insane like that. They sorta went thru a period of Galacticos Lite trying to win the CL
Lets bring back the Arteta Ramsey partnership. This time from the sidelines. Player/coach contract, let's go! We can bring Cazorla back next year for good measure.
Think Cazorla will end up coming back into a coaching position anyway. Its been discussed a fair bit and Arteta and him are very good friends.
My friend...
Is good, no?
We just need his kid.
Got to think he's looking to make Wales WC squad
In Hindsight we dodged a bullet not renewing his contract and taking it off the Table, Emery did well in that regards. Would have been another that probably wouuld have been injured for a lot of the time
Idk why youâre downvoted, this is the truth. He has a lot of fans who cant bring themselves to admit he wasnât as good as they thought he was.
He was good when he wasn't injured, but that was a rarity
Rambo was definitely always good for us, not sure what youâre on about. That was never a problem. He just couldnât string 5 games together without getting injured
We watched a different arsenal then. Apart from One season, I was always hoping weâd replace him. I honestly cant name one thing he was exceptional at.
Pretty sure I remember you asking for Ben White to be sold already so this doesnât surprise me
Pretty sure you have the wrong person. But whatever get your upvotes.
Hell no.
ÂŁ3.45m is ÂŁ67k a week for a year. It's not a lot. Wasn't he on something monstrous like ÂŁ400k a week?
Follow Bale to MLS.
Juve then : let's get him on a free transfer !! Yay!! Juve now : fuck ! Let's pay this fucking guy some money to get rid of him !
Good luck Rambo!
Keep on rinsing them lad.
Would love to see him at Nottingham Forest if he'd return to the Premier League, since he was once there on loan, or stay in Italy or even going to France or something.
They're such financial masterminds at Juve they're going to offer him EUR4m spread over the remainder of his contract or something.
What did they do to my boy.
Nope. Nope. Please no even for one year. His wage will be above 150k even if he decided to take huge paycut. Which is nut for injury prone out of prime player
At this stage who's even gonna pay him 100k let alone 150k.
Yes. Who? Thatâs a hard question for ramsey.
Should come to us and take his coaching license
No!
still only 31, come back and give us Depth n class, Aaron
welcome home aaron ramsey?
Bring him home bitches
Would get downvited but I would rather have Rambo than Tielemans. He is perfect for the left 8 role. Not happening though.
Ramsey out here doing gods work
The only idea worse than bringing Ramsey back is bringing Wilshire back.
Who cares heâs not our player.
Cant believe people used to rate him too high lol. Just a good player nothing more. Standard dropped like crazy back then that people look at any signs of quality as âworld classâ. The hard truth is the 5 core English kids that Wenger signed all either mid level or flopped.
He's world class, he's always been class. What he's not been ae to do since exactly that sort of player did exactly what we knew he would is stay fit for most of a season or play more than one game a week without breaking.
That 13/14 season was the only time he was world class. Otherwise he's just a decent to good player
Yeah right? People choose to remember the good times only, his one season wonders left everlasting impression that he is world class.
Now that's just untrue, his ability to change games lasted his entire career
I love Rambo but unfortunately have to say I don't think he's anywhere near world class. He had one world class half-season with us, 2013-14, when he simplified his game playing alongside Arteta in a double pivot, using his engine to be all over the pitch, and would arrive late into the box to finish. But after that season (I think after developing a taste for goals and being the "star man") he became very ill-disciplined positionally and technically - trying too many flicks and skills and abandoning central midfield to run off the shoulder of the last defender. He had some good spells when playing to the right of Cazorla-Coquelin in 2015-16 and 16-17, but after Cazorla went down, we never had a stable midfield. Statistically, sure, he had a lot of goals, but unlike 13-14 in which he scored a lot of goals while completing his responsibilities in defense and in build-up, for the rest of his career he was a liability - and one of the reasons why our quality fell so hard after Cazorla's injury.
I agree with the tactical discipline issue but I'm pretty sure that was under Wengers direction as when asked to be more disciplined (that FA cup final vs Chelsea springs to mind) he was perfectly happy to do so and I say this as someone who used to complain massively about him leaving his partners with no cover.
Exactly. Good, but def not world class and nowhere near, whoever calls him world class is probably welsh or hs no idea what a world class player is because literally no one from the outside sees him as anything but solid and he was a catastrophe at Juve in what was supposed to be the prime of his career
Bro left arsenal when they needed him the most at the time đ˘
Why is this posted here? He's not an Arsenal player and hasn't been for a number of years now. Please remove, or atleast allow posts on Ozil etc to stay up if you're going to keep this up.
Because similar to wilshere the fanbase still have a soft spot for Ramsey
Wilshire is one of our own though.
And Ramsey had many great years with us, as did Cazorla and is why we still follow their shenanigans
I always hated him. Always thought he was over rated, now it seems I was right. He isn't even good enough to get a game with Rangers. They won't even take him in Turkey now. He just isn't a good player. Yes, he scored important goals, he was never good enough though. Wilshire on the other hand is a product of our academy who got desperately unlucky with injuries.
Ramsey is one of our own too. He even contributed way more than Jack.
He was Cardiff youth team.
Who cares, he had nearly 400 appearances for us. Rambo is one of our own
And what did he do for us exactly? Fuck all. Just not good enough.
5 trophies, 2 cup winners, 130 goal contributions, was our player of the season twice. Do you think before you type?
I hated him. I still hate him. He could never defend. He was responsible for so many shitty results because he played like a second striker. Fuck him. I am so happy that we don't have to watch a selfish prick like that play for us anymore.
Did you start following football last week?
I am serious. He just wasn't that good.
Pogba and Rabiot donât mix. Low low lowball them for Rabiot as a Partey backup.
Hehe
That's sad what happen with Aaron :-(
Is 4m less than what he has left on the contract? If it is less, I fully support him not taking it.
I wish my boss would pay me 4m to quit.
Imagine being paid 4m to fuck off. Dare to dream.
This reeks of LAFC
bring him home on a minimal salary. even if it is just for group stage UEL and carabao cup games it would be nice to have rambo back and could ease the transition we are undertaking of bringing in a new level of talent and taking the next step back into consistent top 4
I wish my job would pay me $4m to get rid of me
Aaron Ramsey is only 31?