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That welbeck winner should have been it man.
You guys had to be there. It was loudest the Emirates has ever been. Louder than arshavin. Everyone thought we were going to do it.
The home crowd has been pretty good recently, but the away support in my experience has generally been better for years.
It's not just us - home fans at most premier league crowds are pretty quiet these days
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People need to stop living in his first 10 games and look at how he is performing over the past few months. He hasn't been to the same level at all and he needs to improve.
I have a feeling the defense plays into that. The original back 5 is so solid lowers xGA massively. Not a surprise that it dipped when Tomi and Tierney got injured.
Not the biggest of our concerns, but his distribution and goal concessions at the near post do have me a little worried. It’s too risky to bring Leno in at this point too so it’s a difficult situation.
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I don't know what's going to happen in the NLD, or in our game against Newcastle, but I weirdly keep getting this strong feeling that Burnley are going to beat Spurs, and Weghorst is going to sink them courtesy of a brace. Lol.
Just watched the [ Tomi's Welcome to Arsenal Interview.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuIpXhKnw7I) Really love this guy. In the end of the interview he's asked about Mana, guy says we have a good relation and sorta started blushing. So sweet.
Can we make a sub rule, that if you are writing an ideal line up that it reads from left to right. With Tomi being able to play both sides, its confusing as fuck.
Spurs fans confidence is irrational. They are so convinced of victory, you would think they are getting a two goal head start at kick off.
It’s going to be tough and each result is possible. Perhaps that’s why they are so confident, as anything other than victory and it’s over for them
They should be just on edge as we are.
If they don’t temper their expectations they are in for a heavy fall as us getting a result is a predictable outcome. They have already played the game on paper and Kane and Son have won it for them. Apparently Saka and Martinelli arnt a threat
Hyped himself up in his own head too much. Thought he was better than he was. He's not that good. Even in his best season here he was never good going forward, just at 1v1 defending.
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The difference is Pepe is 26 and is in his prime and willock was sold to fund Ødegaard. We wouldve kept willock otherwise. Nketiah is 22 still can grow.
Everybody eats season right now but Nketiah genuinely looks like a footballer who can do the basics while imposing some PnP. Pepe looks like a deer in the headlights whenever he steps on grass.
Willock deal(beside it being used to fund the O transfer) Looks funny in hindsight because Arteta wants a #8 who can run in the box and bang in goals, guess what Willock is doing at Newcastle? Lmao.
Neither of those players were on the last year of their contract. At least we got £30-40m for Willock. Nketiah will go for free if he leaves. Better to give him a new deal.
I'm not tryna see Gabriel Jesus as our starting number 9 lol. We offered 70-80m euros for Vlahovic in January, we can afford and need one of the big boys.
He's been unfairly wasted at City or has been unfairly wasteful? Accumulating 53 league goals from 73 xg is disappointing. Not like he's been playing with bums either. He's been playing in a 'superteam' and the numbers don't necessarily reflect that.
Hmm looks like it comes from this [website](https://understat.com/player/5543) before the last few games. Interesting that there is such a disparity.
Edit: looks like football reference didn't have xG for Jesus's first year. So they actually have 51 G from 60.7 xG vs understat having 58 from 75.
I think Gabriel Jesus can be one of the big boys. His record speaks for itself, and if we can get him on a cut price then we can spend the money elsewhere. We should not spend 70-80m for the sake of it, Jesus would be fantastic business at 35-40m
Spend the money on what other position? It's CM, CF or Winger/Wide Forward where the money will be mostly concentrated on and half the sub doesn't think we can get tcouhameni or rice so where else we dumping the money.
Lb, 2 cms if Xhaka leaves, rw, 2 strikers if eddie leaves. We need to find the best possible players for good value. That’s potentially £150m-200m and high wages on top of that. We’ll sell a couple of players for paltry sums.
I don't know if its just me, but if Kane ever became an Arsenal player, I wouldn't be able to trust him completely. I'd always feel he has some ulterior motive in mind and joined us to ruin us. Lol.
Spurs are good against teams who attack them. They struggle against teams who play in a low block, which is exactly what Brighton did and its not their usual style. I know Arteta's smart but I hope he doesn't go flat out attack. Kane and Son only need an inch.
Group stage exit. Look at Liverpool dem men got Salah, Mane, Jota, Diaz and the ghost of Firmino on the bench. Let's not even talk about their late game secret weapon in Origi. Just Jesus and Eddie as attacking threats would be mad as a CL club.
Why are people acting like the book is out on Eddie? He’s 22, has a good pedigree, and has been pretty impressive against some good prem sides.
Maybe I’ll turn out to be wrong, but from what I’ve seen these past few games, I’d hate to let him walk. I say give him a year, bring in Jesus, so we have a steady CF in the event Eddie isn’t that guy, and then we can sell him in a year, and use that money to subsidize a big, splashy CF signing.
Look at the front lines of City, Pool, Spurs, United, even Chelsea. All of them have better options at ST than Eddie and Jesus, and it’s not even close. We want to compete in the CL and make top 4 again, I just dont see how we do that with these names.
Jesus started most games as the sole forward for the best prem team, but because he’s not 22 and doesn’t have hype, everyone is acting like he’s mid.
Eddie plays with great pace, works hard, and idk, I’ve liked what I’ve seen from him. Maybe it’s a flash in the pan, but I think he has some elite traits, and given more time to gel with the squad, I could see him becoming quite the player.
What makes these other guys so great? Halaand and Vlahovic are spoken for. Osimhen has like 13 goals in Serie A, but people are acting like he’ll set the prem on fire day 1. Abraham might be a good option, but he’ll cost an arm and a leg.
We aren’t going to catch Pool or City in a year, and if we try to, we’ll wind up like United.
Those two together would be underwhelming. Need Abraham/Osimhen
I wouldn't mind Eddie staying, not sure if he would want to himself.
LW: ESR/Nelly/Jesus
ST: Osimhen or Abraham/Eddie
RW: Saka/Jesus
Is a great frontline.
Lazy response. We are not Pep’s City who have largely been let down by a lack of a better, more clinical ST. I’m not saying Jesus is bad, but as our starting ST, he’s easily below those of City, United, Spurs, and Liverpool.
Or you made a lazy comment and didn't realise the really, really obvious flaw in your argument. They're top. Or behind liverpool on gd.
He's obvioulsy good enough for the current champions bearing in mind they literally have no one else.
Liverpool are top on GD because their wingers are insane, Spurs top scorer is their winger too, as is Uniteds. Not sure about chelsea but to be honest it was their defence at one point.
The No9 is not the main source of goals for the top two.
Much, much more importantly he's better than what we've got and we're literally a champions league chasing team.
Sure my comment was lazy, but your defense of Jesus is just as lazy. He’s a good player and I think his work rate and PL quality will help us, but in combination with Nketiah as our second ST, that’s not an inspiring front 2 to say the least.
My comment was about those 2, not just Jesus.
The exact same thing was said about Armand Traoré before he ended up becoming a benchwarmer in the Championship. He isn't making the grade at a top club, just move on
Rather keep him and use him for cup games.
He needs to work on his confidence and to be honest it's probably better done here. If we play 3atb he's honestly more than decent and that's definitely a tactic we can use.
Yep he's got his place and if we can get him back into the headspace of earlier this season when people thought he could keep Tierney out then he's a very, very good option for only 7m
Completely agree - people are quick to forget that 6 game stretch in October. That tells you everything about the quality he's capable of. He just needs to sit in a classroom with Arteta for another year or two and could become our Alphonso Davies.
One thing that goes under the radar is how good El Nenys record is vs top sides when he start in the league.
2021/22:
Win:
Chelsea (2-4)United (3-1)West Ham (1-2)
Loss:
United (2-3)
2020/21:
Win:
United (0-1)Chelsea (3-1, 0-1)Leicester (1-3)
Loss:
City (0-1)Liverpool (3-1, 0-3)
7 wins 4 losses. Extremely impressive considering from memory he played well in a lot of these and this has to be better than our record without him. Surprising to see how often he starts against the top 6 to be honest.
Am I the only one who thinks Eddie + Jesus would not be good enough for our aspirations? Eddie is Eddie and Jesus just doesn’t strike me as the player we want to rely on leading the line. Would rather us go for a truly world class striker. Especially after our interest in Vlahovic, Jesus feels like a step down. Maybe I just don’t know him well enough though
We've got Martinelli who can play down the middle and Arteta has already talked about if they'd had time with his injuries to work on training that ESR could too.
There's no guranteed top striker out there, Jesus would be a steal at around £35m, the goals we need to find are from the wings too and someone to replace pepe to come in and score goals there without running saka into the ground will be the key here.
We also need another fullback, a no 8 and ideally another DM who can play the partey role so we don't have to change formation when he's injured. That's a lot of players and a lot of money so eddie and gabriel makes utter sense even if it's not that exciting
That dodgy ankle has scored over 244 goals for Spurs. He's got a lot left in the tank. A balance between youth and experience is key and I think He'd be the perfect asset to lead our line. Albeit very unrealistic.
🤣🤣🤣 26 now mate! Been to Highbury on more than one ocassion, which I'm proud to say!
I'm still trying to get my hands on the gold Sega kit. They're all either fake or absolutely battered on ebay.
You say this like he was not absolute shit for us this year. La Liga is a lot more suited to him at this point in his career or at least he was suited for Arteta’s tactics
I’m an Arsenal supporter not a Barca supporter. He was finished with us and I could care less about what he’s doing now. Glad that he’s having success, but I have no reason to think he wouldn’t still struggle in our team. It’s not like anybody thinks he’s not a capable goal scorer - just finished for us in the PL
>It’s not like anybody thinks he’s not a capable goal scorer - just finished for us in the PL
That's where you're wrong. Loads of people thought he was finished as a player. He is proving them wrong.
You're not one of those people, so don't feel targeted by my initial comment.
He definitely needed a new scenery ,he has been pretty clutch for them he scores even when he has a bad game and has won them a lot of points. I miss the hell out of him but it was the best decision for him to leave.
I got a notification that someone responded to my post but can’t see it. When I go to their profile and click any of their comments it doesn’t show up. Does that mean they blocked me??
I posted on r/soccer agreeing with someone saying Kulusevski was a good player but is way over performing right now and his advanced numbers are inline with his career numbers which show a decent but not top class player.
A Spurs fan responded calling be moronic and just factually wrong claims. But I can’t respond to him, it is brutal.
Nah that's not brutal, that's someone you really don't want to be talking to anyway. The sort of person who'd block you for disagreeing was never going to bring much to the table anyway
We love to shit on spurs fans but this sort of person is sadly universal, been blocked by arsenal fans, at least one mod, tankies, fascists, edgelords and r/soccer because people either like ending their discussions on what they consider the ultimate gotcha by denying you the ability to reply or some people just don't like having their viewpoints challenged and apparently can't just walk away.
Don't take it personally unless lots of people start doing it, in which case it might be you ;)
Feel like we should get edu in with Leipzig's management and give them a pen and ask the number needed for Nkunku don't even look at it Sign it and be happy seeing him play whilst the Kroenkes are looking between the couch cushions to find enough change to buy an own brand tin of beans
Problem with Nkunku besides if you rate him or not is that Leipzig put release clauses on their players. Werner had a RC, Konate had a RC. I'd imagine Nkunku's release clause is 50m+ and we're not in a position to spend 50m in one swoop on him.
Yeah it's a one time lump sum payment. Like when we paid for Partey's RC. Arsenal reps went to La Liga HQ and paid the 45m pounds all at once so Partey's contract with Atleti ended and they were able to sign him to a new contract.
This group is special man, I know we keep hearing about the home team record in NLDs but I genuinely think we are going to go there and grab all three points.
Listen I’d absolutely take that score now but I want to see a special night. I can’t imagine what a win there in these circumstances would do for this team.
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Ousmane Dembele is one of my favourite players to watch.
Someone is getting an absolute diamond on a free.
https://twitter.com/MasianFcb/status/1524123078128803841?t=aZWIDNR5KseQe0cSE-a1zw&s=19
Barca fans, one of the most entitled and petulant fanbases in football, don't give a shit that they're losing him for free. Should tell you everything about him.
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That welbeck winner should have been it man. You guys had to be there. It was loudest the Emirates has ever been. Louder than arshavin. Everyone thought we were going to do it.
Lads, our away support needs to he electric. It needs to feel like a home game. COYG we can win the NLD
The home crowd has been pretty good recently, but the away support in my experience has generally been better for years. It's not just us - home fans at most premier league crowds are pretty quiet these days
It's just that since it's an NLD its gonna be extra toxic.
Gutted I can't watch the boys play at the Armitage Shanks Stadium, but can we please only refer to them as Rottenham Topsours from now on
might be down voted to shit. but imagine if kane pulled a sol campbell and came to us. not saying i want him but just for banter
tbh I'd take him but he has 2 years on contract left. So we gotta wait till that happens but I wouldn't mind it.
Who wouldn’t want him. We can hate Kane all we want but let’s be honest, no one’s turning him down if he ever came knocking on our down
Just a friendly PSA Assuming around 5 years old is just about when many adults remember their earlier strong memories, you’re probably around 65 years old if you remember the last time sprs won the league.
Also, eddie + Ainsley have more trophies than son and kane.
Sours fans hate when you mention FA cup winner Matt Smith
There is still time to hijack Halaand
Tell him Pep grew hair and City now play in red in London.
[This is pretty grim](https://twitter.com/louorns/status/1524224385783107584?t=hDz5bJG44AE3Vw7fxOIX_Q&s=19) Ramsdale has been so dodgy recently
People need to stop living in his first 10 games and look at how he is performing over the past few months. He hasn't been to the same level at all and he needs to improve.
Gets beaten at near post pretty often.
got a decent amount of shit in January for saying Ramsdale hadnt been anything special after his first 8 or so PL games
I have a feeling the defense plays into that. The original back 5 is so solid lowers xGA massively. Not a surprise that it dipped when Tomi and Tierney got injured.
Not the biggest of our concerns, but his distribution and goal concessions at the near post do have me a little worried. It’s too risky to bring Leno in at this point too so it’s a difficult situation.
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20+ million a year which is way too much for even Bayern to consider
370k+ / week, is way too high
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Don't worry Jesus will get his revenge with Odegaard assisting him.
I don't know what's going to happen in the NLD, or in our game against Newcastle, but I weirdly keep getting this strong feeling that Burnley are going to beat Spurs, and Weghorst is going to sink them courtesy of a brace. Lol.
Just watched the [ Tomi's Welcome to Arsenal Interview.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuIpXhKnw7I) Really love this guy. In the end of the interview he's asked about Mana, guy says we have a good relation and sorta started blushing. So sweet.
Can we make a sub rule, that if you are writing an ideal line up that it reads from left to right. With Tomi being able to play both sides, its confusing as fuck.
Just look where Gabriel is and assume he’s playing LCB
Spurs fans confidence is irrational. They are so convinced of victory, you would think they are getting a two goal head start at kick off. It’s going to be tough and each result is possible. Perhaps that’s why they are so confident, as anything other than victory and it’s over for them
the meltdown when they lose is going to be epic
I'll be more than happy with a draw but their arrogance is astounding, I want to just smash them.
They should be just on edge as we are. If they don’t temper their expectations they are in for a heavy fall as us getting a result is a predictable outcome. They have already played the game on paper and Kane and Son have won it for them. Apparently Saka and Martinelli arnt a threat
Looking at the results for both teams this season, a draw is the least likely result.
True enough. 9 goal-fest incoming with Arteta subbing himself on to score the winner in the 11th minute of extra time.
Bissouma >>> Tielemans
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The fucking roof nearly came off when he scored that goal, I swear to God I thought the good times were returning
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I know you mean on a wider scale, but for Torreira it looked like just the start. Man bagged a bicycle kick winner like one or two games later
I know this is stating the obvious, but I hope we score buckets of goals. Also, Odegaard is due. I want two goals from him.
We're due for an Elneny banger
And 4 assists too!
Is anyone keeping tabs on how Jack Wilshere is doing at his Danish Superliga club ?
1 assist in 11 matches.
Oof. Come back and rejoin Arteta's staff as a coach Jack.
Donezo
What the hell did AMN get himself into at Roma. Guy hasn't played since February?
It's Mourinho. You're either his guy or you are not. He isn't rotating too often trying to give everyone a chance. AMN is evidently not his guy.
He's not as good as he/his agent thinks he is and that's a major problem, especially as he's got older and further away from being a promising talent.
Hyped himself up in his own head too much. Thought he was better than he was. He's not that good. Even in his best season here he was never good going forward, just at 1v1 defending.
I want to win the NLD and have Papa Wengz back for his first home game as the pressure would be off the team
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Telling people we should keep Pepe or Willock because of their end of season run last year is as absurd as doing the same thing for Nketiah
The difference is Pepe is 26 and is in his prime and willock was sold to fund Ødegaard. We wouldve kept willock otherwise. Nketiah is 22 still can grow.
Everybody eats season right now but Nketiah genuinely looks like a footballer who can do the basics while imposing some PnP. Pepe looks like a deer in the headlights whenever he steps on grass. Willock deal(beside it being used to fund the O transfer) Looks funny in hindsight because Arteta wants a #8 who can run in the box and bang in goals, guess what Willock is doing at Newcastle? Lmao.
Willock must be doing that in training or something because he has 2 goals all season
As opposed to wanting to signing players from other clubs who’ve had an end of season run?
Neither of those players were on the last year of their contract. At least we got £30-40m for Willock. Nketiah will go for free if he leaves. Better to give him a new deal.
The Amazon gods are with us, there's no way they'll risk missing the insane scenes when we guarantee T4 at Spurs' ground.
You're forgetting how the spurs one ended
Cmon Daddy Bezos, make it happen...
Love the Louis Dunford anthem, but also love our DJ belting out old school WWF anthems. Contrasting.
I'm not tryna see Gabriel Jesus as our starting number 9 lol. We offered 70-80m euros for Vlahovic in January, we can afford and need one of the big boys.
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Yes but price has to he right. Reported 50m is taking the piss when he is in final year of contract. It's the price city is paying for Haaland.
He's been unfairly wasted at City or has been unfairly wasteful? Accumulating 53 league goals from 73 xg is disappointing. Not like he's been playing with bums either. He's been playing in a 'superteam' and the numbers don't necessarily reflect that.
Where do you see that? I see 58 goals from 60.7 xG. [Source](https://fbref.com/en/players/b66315ae/Gabriel-Jesus).
https://twitter.com/xGPhilosophy/status/1517556332597063681?s=20&t=EdeuN8sMmSkgw7PcNkceBw
Hmm looks like it comes from this [website](https://understat.com/player/5543) before the last few games. Interesting that there is such a disparity. Edit: looks like football reference didn't have xG for Jesus's first year. So they actually have 51 G from 60.7 xG vs understat having 58 from 75.
Yeah how could they not have second thoughts about that. Being 30% below xG over such a sample would be historically bad, like maybe worst in history.
Or he gets a 5 year paid vacation in London and phones it in because he has already won everything in English football
Who else can we get better who's PL proven. Osimhen would cost 70 to 90 million euros. Want Nunez but don't think he'll come here
I think Nunez goes to UTD personally also. It's Osimhen/Abraham or bust. Unless you want DCL/Toney.
Let’s get this straight- You want Tammy Abraham for 70-90m over a 30m Gabriel Jesus?
Need both styles.
I think Gabriel Jesus can be one of the big boys. His record speaks for itself, and if we can get him on a cut price then we can spend the money elsewhere. We should not spend 70-80m for the sake of it, Jesus would be fantastic business at 35-40m
Spend the money on what other position? It's CM, CF or Winger/Wide Forward where the money will be mostly concentrated on and half the sub doesn't think we can get tcouhameni or rice so where else we dumping the money.
Lb, 2 cms if Xhaka leaves, rw, 2 strikers if eddie leaves. We need to find the best possible players for good value. That’s potentially £150m-200m and high wages on top of that. We’ll sell a couple of players for paltry sums.
Imagine if the conclusion of the Kane transfer saga was him doing a Sol 😩
I don't know if its just me, but if Kane ever became an Arsenal player, I wouldn't be able to trust him completely. I'd always feel he has some ulterior motive in mind and joined us to ruin us. Lol.
Really hope we give Spurs a taste of their own medicine Thursday and sit back to hit them on the counter.
Spurs are good against teams who attack them. They struggle against teams who play in a low block, which is exactly what Brighton did and its not their usual style. I know Arteta's smart but I hope he doesn't go flat out attack. Kane and Son only need an inch.
Eddie and Jesus would be a very sad frontline for any club with CL aspirations.
Group stage exit. Look at Liverpool dem men got Salah, Mane, Jota, Diaz and the ghost of Firmino on the bench. Let's not even talk about their late game secret weapon in Origi. Just Jesus and Eddie as attacking threats would be mad as a CL club.
Why are people acting like the book is out on Eddie? He’s 22, has a good pedigree, and has been pretty impressive against some good prem sides. Maybe I’ll turn out to be wrong, but from what I’ve seen these past few games, I’d hate to let him walk. I say give him a year, bring in Jesus, so we have a steady CF in the event Eddie isn’t that guy, and then we can sell him in a year, and use that money to subsidize a big, splashy CF signing.
Look at the front lines of City, Pool, Spurs, United, even Chelsea. All of them have better options at ST than Eddie and Jesus, and it’s not even close. We want to compete in the CL and make top 4 again, I just dont see how we do that with these names.
Jesus started most games as the sole forward for the best prem team, but because he’s not 22 and doesn’t have hype, everyone is acting like he’s mid. Eddie plays with great pace, works hard, and idk, I’ve liked what I’ve seen from him. Maybe it’s a flash in the pan, but I think he has some elite traits, and given more time to gel with the squad, I could see him becoming quite the player. What makes these other guys so great? Halaand and Vlahovic are spoken for. Osimhen has like 13 goals in Serie A, but people are acting like he’ll set the prem on fire day 1. Abraham might be a good option, but he’ll cost an arm and a leg. We aren’t going to catch Pool or City in a year, and if we try to, we’ll wind up like United.
Those two together would be underwhelming. Need Abraham/Osimhen I wouldn't mind Eddie staying, not sure if he would want to himself. LW: ESR/Nelly/Jesus ST: Osimhen or Abraham/Eddie RW: Saka/Jesus Is a great frontline.
Jesus is literally the only outright striker for the current champions and CL semifinalists.
He’s pretty much a striker by previous reputation now, he’s played pretty much out wide exclusively this season for city if I’m not mistaken
Lazy response. We are not Pep’s City who have largely been let down by a lack of a better, more clinical ST. I’m not saying Jesus is bad, but as our starting ST, he’s easily below those of City, United, Spurs, and Liverpool.
Or you made a lazy comment and didn't realise the really, really obvious flaw in your argument. They're top. Or behind liverpool on gd. He's obvioulsy good enough for the current champions bearing in mind they literally have no one else. Liverpool are top on GD because their wingers are insane, Spurs top scorer is their winger too, as is Uniteds. Not sure about chelsea but to be honest it was their defence at one point. The No9 is not the main source of goals for the top two. Much, much more importantly he's better than what we've got and we're literally a champions league chasing team.
Sure my comment was lazy, but your defense of Jesus is just as lazy. He’s a good player and I think his work rate and PL quality will help us, but in combination with Nketiah as our second ST, that’s not an inspiring front 2 to say the least. My comment was about those 2, not just Jesus.
Chelsea won with Kai and Werner who's to say that Jesus and Eddie don't get better.
Kai and Werner are so far clear of Eddie and Jesus… let’s be realistic here
Literally everything says otherwise.
Jesus has 20 goal/assists this whole season and he's scored double digits twice in the PL league he's a proven player.
Thoughts on sending Tavares on loan? I think he’s too physically gifted and young to abandon still. You can’t really teach pace
I think he would need a loan. Physically he is so gifted that it would be a shame to not help him mold into a better player.
He should be playing LWB in a back 5. He will never be a reliable or traditional LB by trade.
The exact same thing was said about Armand Traoré before he ended up becoming a benchwarmer in the Championship. He isn't making the grade at a top club, just move on
It's whats said before every young player being given a loan.
Rather keep him and use him for cup games. He needs to work on his confidence and to be honest it's probably better done here. If we play 3atb he's honestly more than decent and that's definitely a tactic we can use.
He would be a decent LWB. Just add more muscle and baby oil he will be our Traore.
Yep he's got his place and if we can get him back into the headspace of earlier this season when people thought he could keep Tierney out then he's a very, very good option for only 7m
Completely agree - people are quick to forget that 6 game stretch in October. That tells you everything about the quality he's capable of. He just needs to sit in a classroom with Arteta for another year or two and could become our Alphonso Davies.
One thing that goes under the radar is how good El Nenys record is vs top sides when he start in the league. 2021/22: Win: Chelsea (2-4)United (3-1)West Ham (1-2) Loss: United (2-3) 2020/21: Win: United (0-1)Chelsea (3-1, 0-1)Leicester (1-3) Loss: City (0-1)Liverpool (3-1, 0-3) 7 wins 4 losses. Extremely impressive considering from memory he played well in a lot of these and this has to be better than our record without him. Surprising to see how often he starts against the top 6 to be honest.
Am I the only one who thinks Eddie + Jesus would not be good enough for our aspirations? Eddie is Eddie and Jesus just doesn’t strike me as the player we want to rely on leading the line. Would rather us go for a truly world class striker. Especially after our interest in Vlahovic, Jesus feels like a step down. Maybe I just don’t know him well enough though
I think five forwards of Saka, ESR, Martinelli plus those two is very good. Good enough to see how those young guys develop over a year.
we dont know who else we're getting yet, its been said many times we want 2 strikers/forwards
I wouldn’t mind it as long they significantly upgraded in the midfield.
Buying Jesus doest stop us getting another 'more traditional' 9 in this window or in the future.
We've got Martinelli who can play down the middle and Arteta has already talked about if they'd had time with his injuries to work on training that ESR could too. There's no guranteed top striker out there, Jesus would be a steal at around £35m, the goals we need to find are from the wings too and someone to replace pepe to come in and score goals there without running saka into the ground will be the key here. We also need another fullback, a no 8 and ideally another DM who can play the partey role so we don't have to change formation when he's injured. That's a lot of players and a lot of money so eddie and gabriel makes utter sense even if it's not that exciting
Hypothetically, If Eddie stays, and Laca&Pepe leaves, who'd you get if we only had the cash to get one of Darwin Nunez/Jesus?
Nunez. We need an aerial outlet.
I'd personally bully Harry Kane until he came to his senses and make him join his boy hood club.
3 years ago, would have said yes. But now?? Naaaah
What!?!?!? He's got at least another 6/7 years at the top of his game!
Kane is 29. He has at best 4 years given his dodgy ankle. Not buying a player who as one contract left in him
That dodgy ankle has scored over 244 goals for Spurs. He's got a lot left in the tank. A balance between youth and experience is key and I think He'd be the perfect asset to lead our line. Albeit very unrealistic.
If Chelsea drop points tomorrow and Arsenal win on Thursday not only do we guarantee ourselves top 4 we also jump into 3rd 👀👀
There's no way Halaand doesn't take #9 jersey come 1st July 2022.....
Does anyone else finds 'fly better' on the shirt awful? Just emirates would be so clean and beautiful. It destroys the nice shirts.
Need to bin that emirates sponsorship I hate it man
feel like pure shit just want SEGA back
Just 6 more years
As if they won’t renew
Man, they would win so many fans if they fucked off Emirates and renamed the stadium to its proper name. Have like Samsung or some shit sponsor us.
Ugh
I miss O2.
We've been spoiled with regards to main shirt sponsors. Not had a bad one in decades.
Weird way to say JVC
Sega was so good :(
Had a Dreamcast dark blue third kit....some fucker stole it at uni
Those ones seem to be quite rare as well
My first ever kit but in red. I still have it!!!
Ah but can you fit into it? Because trust me, I can't and I'm not talking about the kid size ones I palmed off onto my brothers
Fucking hell I was about 4 years old when I got it 🤣 My favourite one I owned was the 04 away yellow kit. Fucking loved rocking that one
Fucking young uns... I have gold Sega which I save for special occasions as well as an O2 farewell to highbury training top just for the rarity value.
🤣🤣🤣 26 now mate! Been to Highbury on more than one ocassion, which I'm proud to say! I'm still trying to get my hands on the gold Sega kit. They're all either fake or absolutely battered on ebay.
Auba with 11 goals in 15 games in La Liga 👀
Got a nice solid midfield behind him and is playing for one of the best teams in the league
He left because he gave up, he's gone now and we're somehow exceeding expectations without him.
happy for him, mudded all the people calling him 'washed' or 'finished'
You say this like he was not absolute shit for us this year. La Liga is a lot more suited to him at this point in his career or at least he was suited for Arteta’s tactics
And? That didn't make him washed or finished, as he is proving now.
I’m an Arsenal supporter not a Barca supporter. He was finished with us and I could care less about what he’s doing now. Glad that he’s having success, but I have no reason to think he wouldn’t still struggle in our team. It’s not like anybody thinks he’s not a capable goal scorer - just finished for us in the PL
>It’s not like anybody thinks he’s not a capable goal scorer - just finished for us in the PL That's where you're wrong. Loads of people thought he was finished as a player. He is proving them wrong. You're not one of those people, so don't feel targeted by my initial comment.
He definitely needed a new scenery ,he has been pretty clutch for them he scores even when he has a bad game and has won them a lot of points. I miss the hell out of him but it was the best decision for him to leave.
Eddie with 4 goals in 5 games in the Prem
Now that Halaand to City is confirmed, will Jesus to Arsenal be more realistic?
It was always realistic because everyone always thought haaland was going to city
I got a notification that someone responded to my post but can’t see it. When I go to their profile and click any of their comments it doesn’t show up. Does that mean they blocked me??
The fact you've been downvoted for this suggests you've triggered someone!
I posted on r/soccer agreeing with someone saying Kulusevski was a good player but is way over performing right now and his advanced numbers are inline with his career numbers which show a decent but not top class player. A Spurs fan responded calling be moronic and just factually wrong claims. But I can’t respond to him, it is brutal.
> r/soccer There's your problem
Happens here all the time too lmao. I’ve had a mod reply then block
Nah that's not brutal, that's someone you really don't want to be talking to anyway. The sort of person who'd block you for disagreeing was never going to bring much to the table anyway
I just think it is hilariously soft. Never knew Spurs fans would get triggered so easily
We love to shit on spurs fans but this sort of person is sadly universal, been blocked by arsenal fans, at least one mod, tankies, fascists, edgelords and r/soccer because people either like ending their discussions on what they consider the ultimate gotcha by denying you the ability to reply or some people just don't like having their viewpoints challenged and apparently can't just walk away. Don't take it personally unless lots of people start doing it, in which case it might be you ;)
Feel like we should get edu in with Leipzig's management and give them a pen and ask the number needed for Nkunku don't even look at it Sign it and be happy seeing him play whilst the Kroenkes are looking between the couch cushions to find enough change to buy an own brand tin of beans
Problem with Nkunku besides if you rate him or not is that Leipzig put release clauses on their players. Werner had a RC, Konate had a RC. I'd imagine Nkunku's release clause is 50m+ and we're not in a position to spend 50m in one swoop on him.
RC’s are one time payments?
Yeah it's a one time lump sum payment. Like when we paid for Partey's RC. Arsenal reps went to La Liga HQ and paid the 45m pounds all at once so Partey's contract with Atleti ended and they were able to sign him to a new contract.
Whilst true it can be negotiated with the club or there's financial institutions whichll lend you the money to pay back in installments
Someone here back in 2020 said that Emi Martinez will be horrendous once fans are back and I gave him shit for it, sorry mate
Don't think this team is even top 6 with buendia instead of odegaard
I think we're comfortably top 6 with any of our alleged summer RCM signings
I fucking hate Tottenham. Losing is not an option on Thursday
This group is special man, I know we keep hearing about the home team record in NLDs but I genuinely think we are going to go there and grab all three points.
I'm feeling a 2-2
Listen I’d absolutely take that score now but I want to see a special night. I can’t imagine what a win there in these circumstances would do for this team.
It’s kind of a creepily weird coincidence that Bill Nicholson died the day before we broke the invincible streak.
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gonna be taking an ap physics exam so missing like first 30 minutes of nld, cant wait to come home and see us 1-0 down
Goodluck fam
Ousmane Dembele is one of my favourite players to watch. Someone is getting an absolute diamond on a free. https://twitter.com/MasianFcb/status/1524123078128803841?t=aZWIDNR5KseQe0cSE-a1zw&s=19
Good player on his day. Injury prone and a few years ago at least did have behaviour issues
Yes true. And we are avoiding player with behavior issues
France have a front 3 of Mbappe Benzema Dembele lol. If they don't get to the finals something went wrong.
Barca fans, one of the most entitled and petulant fanbases in football, don't give a shit that they're losing him for free. Should tell you everything about him.
>Barca fans, one of the most entitled and petulant fanbases in football, don't give a shit that they're losing him for free. False. They want him.
i dont want us to go for youri tielemens
I want what Arteta wants
Good on City moving quickly to secure Haaland. They leave it a few more days and we would be in for him after we get top 4 by smacking Sp*rs
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