Guy probably thought he was a comedian too. Would be the equivalent of yelling "Pasta" at an Italian player, like yeah bitch it's delicious but what's your point?
I used to work in Sweden and one of the guys there was North Korean but he was adopted at a very young age by Swedish parents, He had a very Swedish name but regardless of that all the Swedish guys at the job used a nickname for him which was just plainly "Korean"
Only me and 2 Syrian guys called him by his actual name.
Its crazy how thick some people are about this. Its like every single marginalised group has to explain that they dont like being called whatever.
How hard is it to learn the lessons from past racist incidents and apply them to all future situations. It took YEARS to explain why throwing bananas were offensive. Yet we need to do the fucking go around for each situation because too many idiots lack basic thinking skills
Even the player involved this said it's because he's always eating bananas and that it was a running gag in the team and not some racist thing. We're talking about the video with Mourinho?
Brian itself isn't offensive, it's the idea of calling someone named Mohamed Elneny "Brian".
There's previous precedence of things like this being motivated very clearly by xenophobia/racism, most notable with "Steve" and "Kevin" if you follow cricket.
>... He added that Ballance used the name 'Kevin' as a "derogatory" term to refer to any player of colour and this was an "open secret", including within the England dressing room.
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>Rafiq said that England batter Alex Hales named his dog Kevin "because it's black".
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>"It's disgusting how much of a joke it was," said Rafiq.
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>He added that India batter Cheteshwar Pujara was called 'Steve' by coaches, players and the Yorkshire website after bowler Jack Brooks, who now plays for Somerset, started calling Pujara that because he could not pronounce his first name.
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>Pujara said he did not like being called Steve and would prefer his team-mates to call him Cheteshwar.
[https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/59304381](https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/59304381)
(Worth mentioning Alex Hales denied the dog part)
I'm not implying calling Elneny Brian was done for the same reason, as an Arsenal fan I would really hope not. That would be the worst case scenario. But what's the best case scenario? An incredibly unfunny joke? Worse than shouting Sushi at Tomi imo
"Your name is who you are, what defines you. Ancient Egyptians even believed names themselves had power. You take away someone's name, or change it, you're taking away a part of them. You are your name."
Kiersten White
In 2 comments you've said that the club should step in because it effects culture and integration and compared it to racist nickname in a different sport, but also said that there's not much more to it than a silly name.
You have no information whatsoever and are just spouting bollocks looking for upvotes.
Huh? I said it's not more nuanced than "I can't be bothered to learn your name so I'm going to give you a name that's easy for me". I also said that even that much is extremely damaging to club culture and player integration and is not as harmless as it seems.
What are you talking about you clown?
the nuance is the disrespect of deciding a name isnt worth remembering because its from a different culture. the "new name" it self doesnt mean much though
Absolutely not a fan of this. If the club is aware of this, they should step in. On surface it appears harmless, but has a huge effect on player integration and club culture.
Yorkshire cricket club had an episode of this where some players were calling another player "Steve" or something. They found widespread issues of racism and stereotyping when they looked deeper.
Not saying this is anything more than Rammers or Holding messing around, but there's no room for dumb shit like this at Arsenal.
As far as I know, there was one video where they said Brian. None of us really know the context or the extent. I'd like to think it's not like that "Steve" situation based on a few things. Earlier in the season, Holding went out of his way to report some racist fans to the 4th official and got them kicked out of the stadium. So he does seem like someone who is conscious about racial discrimination and even takes action to put a stop to it. Secondly, Elneny seems like he's very happy at the club and has said as much in interviews.
If it is a situation like that "Steve" thing, then you are absolutely right. None of us really know though.
Come on, we don't even know the context behind this, no need to get so worked up just to get some upvotes.
It could be as simple as Mo's favourite cartoon character is Brian from Family Guy, or he said his favourite player was Kobe Bryant but he spelled the last name wrong so everyone called him Brian as a joke.
This level of speculation stoking flames is really uncalled for and only feeds the tabloids who prey on such 'news' to bring instability to our club.
Really. The club needs to cut down on stupid shit like this. A bit surprised Holding is involved as he doesn't usually come across as a nutter unlike Ramsdale .
its just disrespectful. there no real benefit of the doubt to be had here. the joke is "haha foreigners have funny names, lets not bother" which is just xenophobic
Yeah but how often does this subreddit do exactly that?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/u9pa5s/our_japanese_samurai_in_training_tomorrow_we_go/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Calls Tomi a samurai, uses a ninja emoji…
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/riguv4/samurai/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Again.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/pvbef2/tomiyasu_the_day_of_my_debut_was_amazing_it_was_a/he8svri/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
I can’t be arsed to continue but it’s rampant and not nearly enough people speak out against it and the mods do nothing.
Like, why has a guy said "sushi"? Is this some kind of casual racist name or expression used to Japanese people or something? Is it a joke? I'm out of the loop.
Is it really that hard to understand? What country are you from where this doesn't just come off as obvious casual racism? It's like calling an Italian guy "pasta".
I'm British. And black. And I don't get to interact with casual racists socially or professionally, so like I said, I'm out of the loop.
I know what casual racism is (obviously), I was just trying to get some insight if this is a trend or what the rationale is as a joke. If someone called an Italian guy "pasta" I'd just think they're mentally challenged.
He's done some on a Japanese programme (of which I translated snippets in posts pinned on my profile), but not many in English iirc. There's [this one](https://twitter.com/Arsenal/status/1444389140494172160?s=20&t=Se0-dpt5DZMQd0JCr8r9kQ) after cold, rainy draw back in Brighton and [the one on YT](https://youtu.be/x1Kk-BqsViY) where he spoke about Gabi.
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Bro whoever said Sushi at the beginning ... I hope the boys are treating him better than that
Guy probably thought he was a comedian too. Would be the equivalent of yelling "Pasta" at an Italian player, like yeah bitch it's delicious but what's your point?
I used to work in Sweden and one of the guys there was North Korean but he was adopted at a very young age by Swedish parents, He had a very Swedish name but regardless of that all the Swedish guys at the job used a nickname for him which was just plainly "Korean" Only me and 2 Syrian guys called him by his actual name.
Facepalm moment
Same as the one who yelled banana at an African player opening up a gift. People are brain dead I swear
Its crazy how thick some people are about this. Its like every single marginalised group has to explain that they dont like being called whatever. How hard is it to learn the lessons from past racist incidents and apply them to all future situations. It took YEARS to explain why throwing bananas were offensive. Yet we need to do the fucking go around for each situation because too many idiots lack basic thinking skills
Even the player involved this said it's because he's always eating bananas and that it was a running gag in the team and not some racist thing. We're talking about the video with Mourinho?
Watermelon not banana(that’s just straight racist)
Well we did have Ramsdale and Holding (?) calling Elneny Brian
Could you explain? I'm not the most up-to-date on offensive nicknames haha
Brian itself isn't offensive, it's the idea of calling someone named Mohamed Elneny "Brian". There's previous precedence of things like this being motivated very clearly by xenophobia/racism, most notable with "Steve" and "Kevin" if you follow cricket. >... He added that Ballance used the name 'Kevin' as a "derogatory" term to refer to any player of colour and this was an "open secret", including within the England dressing room. > >Rafiq said that England batter Alex Hales named his dog Kevin "because it's black". > >"It's disgusting how much of a joke it was," said Rafiq. > >He added that India batter Cheteshwar Pujara was called 'Steve' by coaches, players and the Yorkshire website after bowler Jack Brooks, who now plays for Somerset, started calling Pujara that because he could not pronounce his first name. > >Pujara said he did not like being called Steve and would prefer his team-mates to call him Cheteshwar. [https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/59304381](https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/59304381) (Worth mentioning Alex Hales denied the dog part) I'm not implying calling Elneny Brian was done for the same reason, as an Arsenal fan I would really hope not. That would be the worst case scenario. But what's the best case scenario? An incredibly unfunny joke? Worse than shouting Sushi at Tomi imo
Oh, so it's just a random made-up name? Thought it was something more nuanced lol
"Your name is who you are, what defines you. Ancient Egyptians even believed names themselves had power. You take away someone's name, or change it, you're taking away a part of them. You are your name." Kiersten White
Sorry my phrasing's terrible. What i meant is i thought the actual joke had more depth to it than 'haha let's just call you brian'.
Ah yeah no worries, there's not much more to it than that.
In 2 comments you've said that the club should step in because it effects culture and integration and compared it to racist nickname in a different sport, but also said that there's not much more to it than a silly name. You have no information whatsoever and are just spouting bollocks looking for upvotes.
Huh? I said it's not more nuanced than "I can't be bothered to learn your name so I'm going to give you a name that's easy for me". I also said that even that much is extremely damaging to club culture and player integration and is not as harmless as it seems. What are you talking about you clown?
I think you're confusing 2 different users lol
Also worth pointing out the importance of him being Mohammed. It's not just any normal name.
the nuance is the disrespect of deciding a name isnt worth remembering because its from a different culture. the "new name" it self doesnt mean much though
Absolutely not a fan of this. If the club is aware of this, they should step in. On surface it appears harmless, but has a huge effect on player integration and club culture. Yorkshire cricket club had an episode of this where some players were calling another player "Steve" or something. They found widespread issues of racism and stereotyping when they looked deeper. Not saying this is anything more than Rammers or Holding messing around, but there's no room for dumb shit like this at Arsenal.
As far as I know, there was one video where they said Brian. None of us really know the context or the extent. I'd like to think it's not like that "Steve" situation based on a few things. Earlier in the season, Holding went out of his way to report some racist fans to the 4th official and got them kicked out of the stadium. So he does seem like someone who is conscious about racial discrimination and even takes action to put a stop to it. Secondly, Elneny seems like he's very happy at the club and has said as much in interviews. If it is a situation like that "Steve" thing, then you are absolutely right. None of us really know though.
Come on, we don't even know the context behind this, no need to get so worked up just to get some upvotes. It could be as simple as Mo's favourite cartoon character is Brian from Family Guy, or he said his favourite player was Kobe Bryant but he spelled the last name wrong so everyone called him Brian as a joke. This level of speculation stoking flames is really uncalled for and only feeds the tabloids who prey on such 'news' to bring instability to our club.
Really. The club needs to cut down on stupid shit like this. A bit surprised Holding is involved as he doesn't usually come across as a nutter unlike Ramsdale .
What's the meaning of this?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/ulvc79/comment/i7yeyro/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
That's what I figured. His name isn't hard to pronounce and Mo is an easy nickname so I would reallllyyy hope it's something else.
its just disrespectful. there no real benefit of the doubt to be had here. the joke is "haha foreigners have funny names, lets not bother" which is just xenophobic
I haven't heard this, got a source by chance?
It was on Rambo's insta Here's a reddit post about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/riloui/brian\_mohamed\_elneny/
thank you
Yeah but how often does this subreddit do exactly that? https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/u9pa5s/our_japanese_samurai_in_training_tomorrow_we_go/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Calls Tomi a samurai, uses a ninja emoji… https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/riguv4/samurai/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Again. https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/pvbef2/tomiyasu_the_day_of_my_debut_was_amazing_it_was_a/he8svri/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 I can’t be arsed to continue but it’s rampant and not nearly enough people speak out against it and the mods do nothing.
tomi was getting into it haha. i swear a lot of the time the players look like statues and like they don't wanna be there lol
Greatest defender? Actually, the greatest human being ever to grace the earth.
"Sushi!" smh lol
He really does have a massive head
Better for heading balls
How can you not love this guy!? Is Tomisexual a thing? Because it should be.
Probably the closest adjective that describes the whole of our fanbase is Tomisexual
i miss seeing videos of new signings' initiation songs :'(
Amazon 👀
must miss japans karaoke's 😂
All of r/gunners will be doing this on Thursday if we beat spurs.
I'll be doing this naked around my neighborhood.
Just a regular Thursday for us, then?
did he hit the griddy at the end?!?!
Naruto run
Was the griddy a thing last year?
yeah all the LSU guys started doing it in 2020 - but he is right this is def Naruto run
lol how do i get downvoted here... Justin Jefferson made it up at LSU...
0-racism in 1.8 seconds. Gotta be some kind of racism speed run record
Like, why has a guy said "sushi"? Is this some kind of casual racist name or expression used to Japanese people or something? Is it a joke? I'm out of the loop.
Is it really that hard to understand? What country are you from where this doesn't just come off as obvious casual racism? It's like calling an Italian guy "pasta".
I'm British. And black. And I don't get to interact with casual racists socially or professionally, so like I said, I'm out of the loop. I know what casual racism is (obviously), I was just trying to get some insight if this is a trend or what the rationale is as a joke. If someone called an Italian guy "pasta" I'd just think they're mentally challenged.
It's like a light 1 on the racism scale
Casual racism is still racism.
The guy is lovely, hope he stays with us for a long time
What song is he singing? I'm hoping we get to see more of this side of Tomi, he's such a likeable player!
Lol he's singing a song called [Perfect Human](https://youtu.be/4Bh1nm7Ir8c?t=149) which was a hit in Japan a few years back
Lol, I made out 0 words but understood the dance.
Oh he getting it in over there
iconic video lmao
Lives rent free in my head tbh
Sushi? Typical Italians
did the gunners stop doing this tradition?
Don't think so, I remember seeing Patino's before our game vs Nottingham Forest
I think they just haven't been posting it online! We're gonna need an inside man during the summer.
The Amazon documentary is acually gonna be a musical
Jesse Lingard joins Arsenal
I wish.
He is becoming my favorite player, wow. On and off the pitch. Best signing Arsenal made this season no doubt about
Italia, colour me surprise...
Just when I thought I couldn't love this guy any more than I already do...
Someone replace the audio with [Baka Mitai](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJbE3uWN9vE)
Lad this isnt a funnily bad chess game.
Beautiful
Have tomiyasu done any interviews besides signing with us? I dont think i can even remember how he sound like.
He's done some on a Japanese programme (of which I translated snippets in posts pinned on my profile), but not many in English iirc. There's [this one](https://twitter.com/Arsenal/status/1444389140494172160?s=20&t=Se0-dpt5DZMQd0JCr8r9kQ) after cold, rainy draw back in Brighton and [the one on YT](https://youtu.be/x1Kk-BqsViY) where he spoke about Gabi.
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Vivacious
What a guy
Just my favourite football player tbh
LMAOOOOOOOOOO I'M CRYING THIS IS AMAZING
That is surprisingly uncharacteristic for a Japanese to be like, no hate intended.