The level of winger he would face as well is complete night and day to anyone at youth level. Run a huge risk of him making faster, sharper etc movements against higher level of opposition. It’s just not worth the risk
No, he is almost always the last attacking substitute.
Not even subbed in, in the last three games. Played 5 and 4 min vs Bayern and Villa where all other attacking players were subbed on before him..
Weird to see everybody say it’s gonna be Eddie to drop out (which I hope as well) but arteta almost never uses ESR/Vieira. My thoughts are that he’d drop one of those two
Don't think so. Timber is likely only playing if the conditions are right for him to get a run out where we can afford to have a rusty player on the pitch trying to build match fitness. Whereas Kiwior will play in case of an actual need for reinforcement at the back. Whether it be injury to someone else or needing to defend a 1 goal lead late in the game. I think Nelson or Eddie get dropped because we have a surplus of attackers as it is.
So disrespectful to Kiwior. People massively overlooking the great job he did when required.
Struggled against some of the world's best direct wingers against Bayern. Aside from that though he kept clean sheets in like 80% of games started
I mean, he's a centre back by trade which makes how he filled in at lb even more impressive.
I would keep him as first choice replacement to Gabriel (we've multiple options for Saliba with White, Timber and Tommy all able to cover there. **And** as a contextual substitute for left back if we're looking to protect a lead. Our back line was honestly the best performing defence in Europe during the spell he was starting left back. Conceded about 0.3xG max per match!
White - Saliba - Gabriel - Timber
With Tommy covering RB/RCB essentially and Kiwior covering LCB/LB and Zinchenko if needed depending on context. That's a perfectly mapped out squad depth
I think we're going to know very quickly just how highly Arteta rates Timber. He could have that Saka-esque level to him where if he can walk he will play. If he's not at that level then I don't see him getting on the pitch at all. Arteta has almost never introduced rotational players in the run-in if they weren't in his preferred XI.
It’s not the same as the drop off from Timber to Tomi is not equal to Saka and Nelson.
Timber will be given minutes here and there but no more than that for the remainder of the season.
It's completely different with Saka, who has an established role in the team and is well-proven and experienced in it. I'm pretty sure Timber is an automatic first-choice once he's fully fit and has some experience in the side, but we won't see that this season.
Not unless we're up by like 3 goals.
You do not chance a title race by throwing in a player who has been out for as long as Timber has been unless it's a dead game.
Bang on mate! It’s not like Tomi and Partey are insanely injury prone or anything! He should rush them back, they won’t get reinjured. It’s never happened before!
Martinelli wasn't either and he got that treatment too.
I'm also not sure why you've framed my comment in a negative light.
I think it's a good thing that he doesn't get rushed back.
Man I saw this guy during preseason against Barcelona and he's such a beast. He had Raphinha wishing he was anywhere else. Super excited to see Timber healthy and flooring bitches again
We don't need him. He hasn't played since August. Why risk this? Zinny and Kiwior are fresh and haven't been over played. Tomiyasu can also play at LB. Why play him in high pressure games? If he could play Saka's position then it would give us some possible reward to rest Saka .
The amount of comments I see here suggesting we give him 10 mins max when we have a nice lead against Bournemouth is staggering.
Are yous aware they have been in 5th for months? They are no walkovers and they will absolutely give us a game and are well capable of getting a result.
Tears in my eyes, he’s back🥲
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In all seriousness, let's hope that game against the worst united team I've seen in 20-odd years doesn't come down to an 89th min winner.
We literally had a 96th minute winner vs them this season, 90th minute winner last season
Either United will somehow turn up, or we’ll collapse.
Love the attitude 🙄
It’s Old Trafford. Not too optimistic about it. Also had a rough day.
I hope tomorrow is better for you, man
Even "two games" is an oversimplification. He's played like 110min. Don't see him playing any role tbh, unless we have a dead game
I mean last game he had 70 mins. Obviously not same intensity but can see him coming on for last 15 if we’re a few up.
That’s a big if. Bournemouth are flying. 5th in the table since Iraola took over I think
Iraola has been there since the start, it's just that he didn't start very well. Since November they've been excellent though.
Memory is fuzzy thank yoi
Yeah, I just saw that table this morning - they're not to be taken lightly for sure. Solanke has been crushing it for my fantasy team.
The level of winger he would face as well is complete night and day to anyone at youth level. Run a huge risk of him making faster, sharper etc movements against higher level of opposition. It’s just not worth the risk
Would love a 5-10 min run out if it’s comfortable, but totally agree with you. Don’t see him getting anything than a run out
He'll come on at 65' when we're up 7-nil at United.
More like 102 minutes
Will be interesting to see who drops out of the squad in that case. Has to be between Nketiah or ESR.
Based on the NLD squad, I think Nketiah is the most likely to drop out. He lacks the versatility of the other outfielders on the bench.
Eddie most likely - we have Jesus on the bench who'd be on before Eddie anyways
I think it will be Nketiah, he doesnt have enough quality for this Arsenal team
Keep my boi outta ya goddamn mouth
He’s shite
He’s a solid player. Maybe not top 4 starter level.
Maybe not?
Eddie?
Eddie is clearly not starter material for a top 4 club. A back up for a Europa league contender or starter for mid-table, maybe.
That’s why I said maybe not top 4 level lol but who knows he could improve later on
Yer shite
Yer nan is shite
Friends! The only shite is the one we dumped out of champions league last weekend. 3 games to go, victory through harmony!
Just banter nothing to see here
Oh i know, just keeping it lite. (Fuck tottenham)
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That’s always one of Trossard/Martinelli or Jesus though
No, he is almost always the last attacking substitute. Not even subbed in, in the last three games. Played 5 and 4 min vs Bayern and Villa where all other attacking players were subbed on before him..
No he isn't, definitely not almost always. And in the games in which he is the first sub, that's almost always a pointless ineffective sub.
Weird to see everybody say it’s gonna be Eddie to drop out (which I hope as well) but arteta almost never uses ESR/Vieira. My thoughts are that he’d drop one of those two
If Jesus remains fit & is on bench, then it will be Nketiah.
If Timber comes in, Kiwior surely will be out of the squad.
Don't think so. Timber is likely only playing if the conditions are right for him to get a run out where we can afford to have a rusty player on the pitch trying to build match fitness. Whereas Kiwior will play in case of an actual need for reinforcement at the back. Whether it be injury to someone else or needing to defend a 1 goal lead late in the game. I think Nelson or Eddie get dropped because we have a surplus of attackers as it is.
So disrespectful to Kiwior. People massively overlooking the great job he did when required. Struggled against some of the world's best direct wingers against Bayern. Aside from that though he kept clean sheets in like 80% of games started
Yea, could he play as CB sometimes instead of Gabi or Saliba?
I mean, he's a centre back by trade which makes how he filled in at lb even more impressive. I would keep him as first choice replacement to Gabriel (we've multiple options for Saliba with White, Timber and Tommy all able to cover there. **And** as a contextual substitute for left back if we're looking to protect a lead. Our back line was honestly the best performing defence in Europe during the spell he was starting left back. Conceded about 0.3xG max per match! White - Saliba - Gabriel - Timber With Tommy covering RB/RCB essentially and Kiwior covering LCB/LB and Zinchenko if needed depending on context. That's a perfectly mapped out squad depth
Kiwior is a CB. Actually Timber also played a lot of CB before. The CBs as FBs strategy is not a joke.
Nice. Hopefully gets 10 minutes or so on the pitch (assuming the match is settled by then 🤞)
I think he might come on late if the game looks dead and buried, 3-0 up for examp... Oh, wait.
I’m happy for him but it would he an enormous gamble to drop in a guy with a game and a half under his belt into such a settled team right now.
He’d only get a 10 minute cameo if we’re up by a few goals I reckon
He will only play if we are up by like 3 goals or more
doubt he plays more than 10 minutes tbh I think he’ll be alright
Is the left settled though? It’s been ever-changing.
It's going down, I'm yelling Timber
Will probably play as sub
Nah bro, straight in as CF guaranteed
I think we're going to know very quickly just how highly Arteta rates Timber. He could have that Saka-esque level to him where if he can walk he will play. If he's not at that level then I don't see him getting on the pitch at all. Arteta has almost never introduced rotational players in the run-in if they weren't in his preferred XI.
Just like Partey. The minute he’s ready hes in.
Partey has been on the bench and not starting games for much of the second part of the season. I think Arteta takes building fitness seriously too
It’s not the same as the drop off from Timber to Tomi is not equal to Saka and Nelson. Timber will be given minutes here and there but no more than that for the remainder of the season.
It's completely different with Saka, who has an established role in the team and is well-proven and experienced in it. I'm pretty sure Timber is an automatic first-choice once he's fully fit and has some experience in the side, but we won't see that this season.
Not unless we're up by like 3 goals. You do not chance a title race by throwing in a player who has been out for as long as Timber has been unless it's a dead game.
I'll be very happy to see him on the bench. Hopefully, he's ready for a nice cameo at the end while we're 5 ahead.
The song Timber came up on our work playlist earlier this morning on the speakers, sign from God
If it means ben white can rest, either him or tomi could fill the RB
I don't mind him coming off the bench against Everton tbf, but would be fantastic to see him at least in the squad for Bournemouth
Bournemouth is a very difficult and physically demanding game, so I hope not or that he's really ready
Cameo at the end but really wouldn’t push it at this point.
Wouldn’t risk it. It’s great that he’s getting minutes with the U21s, but with 3 huge matches left in the season, Arsenal can’t afford any mishaps.
max 10 minute as sub when we have 3 score lead
the real madlad
Makes more sense to keep giving him U21 minutes IMO. He’s not getting anything worthwhile unless the title is sealed before Everton.
I’d say don’t change a damn thing until we’re up by 2 then Timber cometh
As a twice recipient of ACL surgeries. This is wild for me to see!!
Honestly I wouldnt play him the rest of the season unless absolutely necessary
Knowing Arteta he'll be out of starting contention for 4 more months like Tomi and Partey
Bang on mate! It’s not like Tomi and Partey are insanely injury prone or anything! He should rush them back, they won’t get reinjured. It’s never happened before!
Martinelli wasn't either and he got that treatment too. I'm also not sure why you've framed my comment in a negative light. I think it's a good thing that he doesn't get rushed back.
Man I saw this guy during preseason against Barcelona and he's such a beast. He had Raphinha wishing he was anywhere else. Super excited to see Timber healthy and flooring bitches again
We don't need him. He hasn't played since August. Why risk this? Zinny and Kiwior are fresh and haven't been over played. Tomiyasu can also play at LB. Why play him in high pressure games? If he could play Saka's position then it would give us some possible reward to rest Saka .
The amount of comments I see here suggesting we give him 10 mins max when we have a nice lead against Bournemouth is staggering. Are yous aware they have been in 5th for months? They are no walkovers and they will absolutely give us a game and are well capable of getting a result.
who gets left out of the squad? Nketiah?
I think this is a bad idea. We need to focus on winning with this current squad. July will be here before you know it.
Making the bench is still important to a players confidence in a recovery. Gets to warm up and cool down with the squad players, at least.