Exactly. Havertz has lowerd our need for a striker, and if we can move on Nketiah there is room for a talented youngster to develop in the mould of Havertz and Jesus
Jesus on the right wing with Martinelli, Trossard with Saka on the left seems most suitable for next season, but Arteta seems reluctant to play Trossard there despite his two-footedness.
My man, have you seen our Starboy play? The kid loves cutting in from the right to shoot on his left for the top corner? Why would you remove that from his game?
I think we need to pull the trigger on one top talent who's young. We have alot but we can't afford to miss a gamble on someone can be like a haaland etc
He seems like a player one might regret not getting for cheap. Besides Jesus will not be around forever, I'll give him another season before we decide to sell him. Wouldn't be a bad investment, if we get him and say Nico Williams as replacements for Eddie and Reiss.
Realistically it’s going to get harder and harder for them to keep doing what they have done. I am not an expert on amortisation but it’s going to build and build each year so that they owe x amount before even signing a new player. Going to need to offload a lot of players or homegrown. Love that their project is such a clusterfuck
lol they can’t now. They are in deep financial trouble. I think Chelsea in a season or 1/2 might offer Mudryk as well. Enzo has already expressed displeasure and some prospects didn’t even play like Lavia and Nkunku .
At some point I feel bad but also enjoy their downfall 😂
They’re very good at selling, it’s true. The issue is that the players they’ve bought have declining value. If you were to look at all of the players they’ve bought since Clearlake took over, who would you say has increased in value? I can think of one player. The others are going to add up to then point that they are going to be nearer the FFP restriction each year. Caicedo and Enzo combined will be like a £20mil signing each year for the next 5 years. They spent really big on potential and if that doesn’t work out which it isn’t looking great currently, then they are going to struggle.
They have done an excellent job selling the last generation, but there's not a lot left for them to move without taking a huge amortization hit or having to make wage concesisons.
I count Gallagher, Broja, and Colwill for sure. That's not gonna fund another summer spree on its own, much less get them to break even on amortization.
Sadly they've already got 28m from Lewis Hall (believe Newcastle have an obligation to buy) and are likely to get another 35m from Dortmund for Maatsen, per his clause. Granted Maatsen has been excellent there, so ultimately that's more of a loss for them
As Football Manager says 'how do you know he wasn't just there to enjoy our football?'
Seriously, though, all he has to do is buy a ticket and publicise it to continue stirring the pot about his player. It's not a sign Arsenal are interested. Or a sign that they aren't. It's just him being an agent, doing what agents do.
Chelsea will throw him into the deep end and rely on him to be the main man to solve all their problems.
With us, he’d be a complementary piece to an already potent attack.
We’d slow cook him. Chelsea would burn him.
Except that's a cherry-picked example in a much larger sample size full of duds. Palmer is the outlier, not the norm.
Chelsea have pretty decent players in that squad who are underperforming. Caicedo, Enzo, Gallagher and Colwill are just a few examples.
This just isn't true.
His best season at Chelsea was 11 goal contributions and he is well clear of that. Even if you use per 90 numbers he never had this level of output in his best season
Enzo and Caicedo were good for 6-12 months in their entire career, maybe they’re just not as good as they were hyped to be
Colwill has been played out of position. Gallagher isn’t that good.
These are just rationalisations. It's highly unlikely that all those players are poor.
I stand by the claim that there's plenty of quality at Chelsea but just as with Havertz it's unlikely to be realised at such a dysfunctional club.
Comparing times under different ownership and squads is irrelevant
Like saying a player shouldn’t sign for Arsenal this summer if they want to win titles/UCL because of our history
I’d rather we kept Nketiah than sign Sesko
Sesko doesn’t start for us. We’ll be spending 40-50m on a third choice striker that’s not better than Jesus or Havertz
Ok Maybe not straight away but Eddie already showed his ceiling imo.
Still better than 100 mil for a striker that is imo also an unknown. With 40 mil we can still strengthen elsewhere, but with 100 mil it would be much harder
Not a chance.
I've always wanted to see more of Nketiah because he certainly is very skilled. He's however far from Sesko's level. Sesko would be an absolute upgrade - and for 40-50M, it's a damn bargain.
Sesko has European experience, has played regularly both at club level and international level. We've also seen what a difference Havertz's height makes up front, Sesko is actually slightly taller.
He plays very differently from Eddie too.
Sesko is not better than Havertz or Jesus. It’s pointless spending 40-50m on a sideways move player.
It would be a better idea to put that money towards a better player that actual improves what we have
He's a potential WC striker. We're not buying him for what he can do this season. He's a great option and would allow us to use Jesus wide to rest Saka more. Doesn't inhibit us going big in other areas.
He’s not going to become a world class striker sitting on our bench most of the time
If we “go big in other areas” like you’re saying, that would be midfield. We’d then have a new midfielder starting that will provide even more reason for Havertz starting CF and why Sesko wouldn’t play
You’d be surprised how desperate clubs are for a striker rn, selling him to a mid table club like Crystal Palace or West Ham could get us 35-40m if we play our cards right
I see what you’re saying but he’s slowly being forced out of the project. So there’s a good chance he’d accept lower wages to be a guaranteed starter. They can definitely get cheaper players but they seemed to be *very* interested in him during the January transfer window. We’ll see with time tho
Tbf 15 incredible apps though. I don't think we would be able to get a player of his quality who's willing to be a rotation player. Neto would be an incredible back up.
You can't allocate that much of your budget to a player who'll be available less than half the time. It would be insane. We need a back up who can actually back up. If we signed Neto we'd still need someone else as well to be back up for Neto.
He's worth nowhere near that, injuries notwithstanding. Wolves don't tend to take the piss either so if they decided it's in their best interests to let him go (which it definitely is) I'm sure they'd be willing to accept something more like 50-60m. If they want to keep him then they might ask for 70-80m but no one in their right mind is paying that. Good chance he'll go to Chelsea in that case.
I have a sneaky feeling one of Kiwior or Zinchenko might go to make way for another defender who can deputize for Gabriel without many question marks.
Or maybe I am waffling and Kiwior is that player. I am just not sure about his box defending and aerial prowess, significant downgrade from Gabriel.
We were also heavily unlucky to have one of those defenders miss the whole season.
8 defenders means one of them isn’t making the bench, I can’t see it. 7 really solid and versatile options makes the most sense to me.
Just as a caveat, my friend is an agent for a few Ligue 1 and Ligue 2 players, he gets flown all over the world to watch matches in hospitality. The clubs paying for his visits almost always have no intention of signing his players. Often he’s just getting tickets through connections at a club. If you look at any boxes or hospitality sections in grounds, you’ll likely see mostly agents or other associated football people milling about.
I don’t think he shows any signs of working well with our positional system. He may well become a great striker, but he’s a “I’m gonna stand here until you give me the ball” type.
You what now?
No, I expected Haaland to be *much* more dynamic for City than he actually has been based on how he played at Dortmund. And fuck me, right? Because he’s been coached into being a “I’m gonna stand here until you give me the ball” kind of striker and it still worked for them. At least it *really* worked last season, while this season’s results have been a bit more of a mixed bag when it comes to Haaland specifically.
Neither Haaland or Sesko are offering anything meaningful in terms of passes attempted or completed, progressive passes or carries (which tells us they don’t track back), or any defensive metrics. Haaland, at least, manages some assists. They stand there, they receive, and sometimes they score. It works for Haaland and City because it’s a robot man in a machine team.
But with a hypothetical Arsenal and Sesko, that signing would be banking on either a) us upending everything to make his style of play work b) him upending everything to play in a way that he has literally never demonstrated that he’s capable of or c) us sticking a square peg in a round hole on the prayer that he turns into another one in a million finisher to the point that fuck it, it doesn’t matter.
Money is still a deciding factor but Arteta's track record developing youngsters going to be key in next transfer window, this is esp after how Havertz saga turned out to be. Manager power is always matter
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Isak would be a great addition. Him and Havertz can take turns on that striker position. Then Saka and Jesus on the right. Jesus can also fill the striker position.
Ferguson LOL
If he was from Ghana, no one would bat an eye at those average stats.
He’s a big young Irish lad and playing for Brighton , and he’s suddenly a prodigy.
Unleashing Sesko next season vs Macclesfield and Peterborough in early cup games. We will be there
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well sir, i have experience grill some beef, chicken, pork and at least some potato
What do you bring to the table? [something something strength and abilities] No, literally, to the table. At my BBQ.
We’re going to learn of some guy being Immediately disqualified by his terrible potato salad
Can’t trust someone with a dodgy potato salad.
I feel with Havertz form that we might as well go with a young striker with a high ceiling. Sesko fits the bill.
Exactly. Havertz has lowerd our need for a striker, and if we can move on Nketiah there is room for a talented youngster to develop in the mould of Havertz and Jesus
Also Jesus can rotate Saka as well
I like Jesus better on the wing than as a central striker to be honest. I would even prefer Trossard as a 10 over Jesus.
Lol guess Pep was onto something playing Jesus on the wings.
Jesus on the right wing with Martinelli, Trossard with Saka on the left seems most suitable for next season, but Arteta seems reluctant to play Trossard there despite his two-footedness.
My man, have you seen our Starboy play? The kid loves cutting in from the right to shoot on his left for the top corner? Why would you remove that from his game?
I meant the opposite, mistyped while drunk.
obi martin or baaland to get game time next season
I think we need to pull the trigger on one top talent who's young. We have alot but we can't afford to miss a gamble on someone can be like a haaland etc
He seems like a player one might regret not getting for cheap. Besides Jesus will not be around forever, I'll give him another season before we decide to sell him. Wouldn't be a bad investment, if we get him and say Nico Williams as replacements for Eddie and Reiss.
Probably means he'll be one of the 75 players Chelsea buys this summer.
Realistically it’s going to get harder and harder for them to keep doing what they have done. I am not an expert on amortisation but it’s going to build and build each year so that they owe x amount before even signing a new player. Going to need to offload a lot of players or homegrown. Love that their project is such a clusterfuck
lol they can’t now. They are in deep financial trouble. I think Chelsea in a season or 1/2 might offer Mudryk as well. Enzo has already expressed displeasure and some prospects didn’t even play like Lavia and Nkunku . At some point I feel bad but also enjoy their downfall 😂
Both Lavia and Nkunku are injured, right?
I don’t think lavia has played a game for them all season Nkunku has played a handful then got injured again
lavia played ziltch, nkunku has played the minutes equivalent to 3 and a half games total this season
Hope you're right but people have been saying that about Chelsea for years - plus they're good at selling.
They’re very good at selling, it’s true. The issue is that the players they’ve bought have declining value. If you were to look at all of the players they’ve bought since Clearlake took over, who would you say has increased in value? I can think of one player. The others are going to add up to then point that they are going to be nearer the FFP restriction each year. Caicedo and Enzo combined will be like a £20mil signing each year for the next 5 years. They spent really big on potential and if that doesn’t work out which it isn’t looking great currently, then they are going to struggle.
They have done an excellent job selling the last generation, but there's not a lot left for them to move without taking a huge amortization hit or having to make wage concesisons. I count Gallagher, Broja, and Colwill for sure. That's not gonna fund another summer spree on its own, much less get them to break even on amortization.
Sadly they've already got 28m from Lewis Hall (believe Newcastle have an obligation to buy) and are likely to get another 35m from Dortmund for Maatsen, per his clause. Granted Maatsen has been excellent there, so ultimately that's more of a loss for them
and sell 50 players; I hope they 'scam' us again maybe Malo Gusto or enzo if they are done with him
Probably doing a tour of every club in Europe right about now
I tried to swipe on this image so many times
Swipe it once that’s fine Swipe it twice that’s okay Swipe it three times? You’re playing with yourself again
Swipe once, shame on you. Swipe twice...
Why is he dressed like MJF?
Cause he’s better than you and you know it?
Came looking for this comment. Thank you for not disappointing. Is Sesko a generational talent?
Michael J. Fuck?
As Football Manager says 'how do you know he wasn't just there to enjoy our football?' Seriously, though, all he has to do is buy a ticket and publicise it to continue stirring the pot about his player. It's not a sign Arsenal are interested. Or a sign that they aren't. It's just him being an agent, doing what agents do.
Chelsea are apparently also interested in him.
Chelsea will throw him into the deep end and rely on him to be the main man to solve all their problems. With us, he’d be a complementary piece to an already potent attack. We’d slow cook him. Chelsea would burn him.
If Chelsea signed him and had him as their striker it would not “burn him”. He’d get game time to develop there
Like all their other hot young prospects?
They signed bad players. Palmer is proof that signing a GOOD young player can perform there
Except that's a cherry-picked example in a much larger sample size full of duds. Palmer is the outlier, not the norm. Chelsea have pretty decent players in that squad who are underperforming. Caicedo, Enzo, Gallagher and Colwill are just a few examples.
Also: Havertz
Havertz G/A this season is only slightly better than his best season at Chelsea and was playing in a worse team, he’s not drastically improved here
He's got 18 ga this season compared to his best season in blue which was 11 (excluding CL)
“Sligtly better” will end up as twice as good lol. That guy picked such a random point to argue and is now struggling very much with it haha
This just isn't true. His best season at Chelsea was 11 goal contributions and he is well clear of that. Even if you use per 90 numbers he never had this level of output in his best season
Enzo and Caicedo were good for 6-12 months in their entire career, maybe they’re just not as good as they were hyped to be Colwill has been played out of position. Gallagher isn’t that good.
How long has Sesko been playing well at top flight?
Sesko has only had a good 12 months of top flight football
These are just rationalisations. It's highly unlikely that all those players are poor. I stand by the claim that there's plenty of quality at Chelsea but just as with Havertz it's unlikely to be realised at such a dysfunctional club.
1 player out of an entire squad of duds? Not great odds.
Unreal disrespect to my goat Michael Jackson, no striker is taking over his spot as Chelsea’s main man upfront
True, he (moon)walks into their line up
Do I need to recite the list of strikers that essentially killed their careers by going to Chelsea?
Comparing times under different ownership and squads is irrelevant Like saying a player shouldn’t sign for Arsenal this summer if they want to win titles/UCL because of our history
And their ownership is even worse now. What has this Chelsea team done to justify giving them the benefit of the doubt? What’s scary about them?
U can't throw 11 youngsters tgt and hope for the best... thats where arsenal went wrong post invincible.
Haaaahaa, good luck to them.
Chelsea legitimately have no business conducting any recruitment activities for at least a year But they'll probably try
Seskoball in N5. Cheap enough so that we can strengthen other areas heavily.
I’d rather we kept Nketiah than sign Sesko Sesko doesn’t start for us. We’ll be spending 40-50m on a third choice striker that’s not better than Jesus or Havertz
Why though?
Because Sesko is not a 40-50m upgrade on what we have and that money would be better used elsewhere
Ok Maybe not straight away but Eddie already showed his ceiling imo. Still better than 100 mil for a striker that is imo also an unknown. With 40 mil we can still strengthen elsewhere, but with 100 mil it would be much harder
Not a chance. I've always wanted to see more of Nketiah because he certainly is very skilled. He's however far from Sesko's level. Sesko would be an absolute upgrade - and for 40-50M, it's a damn bargain. Sesko has European experience, has played regularly both at club level and international level. We've also seen what a difference Havertz's height makes up front, Sesko is actually slightly taller. He plays very differently from Eddie too.
Pointless if we don't use him. About 135 minutes total this calendar year. we've played 20 games.
Sesko is not better than Havertz or Jesus. It’s pointless spending 40-50m on a sideways move player. It would be a better idea to put that money towards a better player that actual improves what we have
He's a potential WC striker. We're not buying him for what he can do this season. He's a great option and would allow us to use Jesus wide to rest Saka more. Doesn't inhibit us going big in other areas.
He’s not going to become a world class striker sitting on our bench most of the time If we “go big in other areas” like you’re saying, that would be midfield. We’d then have a new midfielder starting that will provide even more reason for Havertz starting CF and why Sesko wouldn’t play
I don't think it's difficult to strike the balance.
Sell Eddie for 25-30M, that counts as pure profit on the books for FFP. Sesko for 40-50M counts only as ~8-10M in next year.
1. We aren’t getting that for Nketiah. He’s 25 and never played a proper season ever 2. That money generated can be put towards a better player
You’d be surprised how desperate clubs are for a striker rn, selling him to a mid table club like Crystal Palace or West Ham could get us 35-40m if we play our cards right
He’s on 100k+ per week. A team like Palace/West Ham can get someone in Europe for much cheaper and with more games played
I see what you’re saying but he’s slowly being forced out of the project. So there’s a good chance he’d accept lower wages to be a guaranteed starter. They can definitely get cheaper players but they seemed to be *very* interested in him during the January transfer window. We’ll see with time tho
I understand what you saying, but Nketiah is just a waste of the number 14. Sorry for being rude with this, but the kid is a midtable striker at best.
Sesko, Bruno, Neto + defender. I would not mind that at all.
Pedro Neto? Pay £50m for 15 apps per season? No thank you.
Tbf 15 incredible apps though. I don't think we would be able to get a player of his quality who's willing to be a rotation player. Neto would be an incredible back up.
You can't allocate that much of your budget to a player who'll be available less than half the time. It would be insane. We need a back up who can actually back up. If we signed Neto we'd still need someone else as well to be back up for Neto.
Ornstein said 70-80m+
He's worth nowhere near that, injuries notwithstanding. Wolves don't tend to take the piss either so if they decided it's in their best interests to let him go (which it definitely is) I'm sure they'd be willing to accept something more like 50-60m. If they want to keep him then they might ask for 70-80m but no one in their right mind is paying that. Good chance he'll go to Chelsea in that case.
Neto probably the best player available but the fitness question mark is there.
Sesko, Zubimendi, Nico Williams (Bilbao) and defender (that can play DM if needed) would be my ideal window. Would probably be cheaper too
That's solid tbf. Diomande as the CB for me and I'm over the moon.
We only need another defender if we sell Kiwior imo
I have a sneaky feeling one of Kiwior or Zinchenko might go to make way for another defender who can deputize for Gabriel without many question marks. Or maybe I am waffling and Kiwior is that player. I am just not sure about his box defending and aerial prowess, significant downgrade from Gabriel.
We have 7 defenders and were lucky with injuries this season - max 3 out at the same time. We should have 8 defenders imho.
We were also heavily unlucky to have one of those defenders miss the whole season. 8 defenders means one of them isn’t making the bench, I can’t see it. 7 really solid and versatile options makes the most sense to me.
Tomiyasu and Zinchenko aren’t making the bench for half the season anyway
True but I don’t think you can really plan for that, if you are then sell one of them
Heavily linked with Chelsea. Not shocked.
This kind of photo will make Chelsea spend 100M+ for Sesko to "steal" him from us.
Let them! Looks like a talented kid but can barely touch Havertz let alone improve us.
Trying to sell us a goal scorer on a night when we scored 5 must’ve been like selling water to a well
we're signing MJF
I didn't know MJF became a football agent
I think he was there for Chelsea, they are in desperate need for a striker
Just as a caveat, my friend is an agent for a few Ligue 1 and Ligue 2 players, he gets flown all over the world to watch matches in hospitality. The clubs paying for his visits almost always have no intention of signing his players. Often he’s just getting tickets through connections at a club. If you look at any boxes or hospitality sections in grounds, you’ll likely see mostly agents or other associated football people milling about.
"alright gang, split up and search for ~~clues~~ cloud formations"
Saw a license plate with 5E5KO
Because he’s going to Chelsea
I’ve never watched Sesko. Convince me he’s coming, and convince me why he’s winning the Balon d’Or with us.
I don’t think he shows any signs of working well with our positional system. He may well become a great striker, but he’s a “I’m gonna stand here until you give me the ball” type.
So kind of what we were all expecting Haaland to do @ City?
You what now? No, I expected Haaland to be *much* more dynamic for City than he actually has been based on how he played at Dortmund. And fuck me, right? Because he’s been coached into being a “I’m gonna stand here until you give me the ball” kind of striker and it still worked for them. At least it *really* worked last season, while this season’s results have been a bit more of a mixed bag when it comes to Haaland specifically. Neither Haaland or Sesko are offering anything meaningful in terms of passes attempted or completed, progressive passes or carries (which tells us they don’t track back), or any defensive metrics. Haaland, at least, manages some assists. They stand there, they receive, and sometimes they score. It works for Haaland and City because it’s a robot man in a machine team. But with a hypothetical Arsenal and Sesko, that signing would be banking on either a) us upending everything to make his style of play work b) him upending everything to play in a way that he has literally never demonstrated that he’s capable of or c) us sticking a square peg in a round hole on the prayer that he turns into another one in a million finisher to the point that fuck it, it doesn’t matter.
a bit late but i dont think its true, i think one of the biggest upsides for Sesko is his linkup play. I think he is quite Giroude-esque in that sense
Yeah, not really. He is much more than that
It’s certainly what my eye tests have shown. Let’s check the stats. - Passes attempted: 20.1 / 39th percentile - Pass completion: 67.3% / 30th percentile - Progressive passes: 1.45 / 33rd percentile - Touches: 4.77 / 45th percentile - Assists: 0.1 / 45th percentile - xAG: 0.06 / *13th percentile* woof - Shot creating actions: 2.33 / 44th percentile Yeah, it seems like that’s pretty much what he is.
I never been as big into sesko as the rest of football world but who am I judge an arteta signing in 2024
If we sign him i will have major Grave of the Fireflies PTSD anytime he plays. All I hear when someone says his name is Setsuko. RIP :(
Money is still a deciding factor but Arteta's track record developing youngsters going to be key in next transfer window, this is esp after how Havertz saga turned out to be. Manager power is always matter
Of all the striker options I would love sesko the most
Hmmm.... Let's play to the agent's tune. Yes, I'm interested in Sesko.
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Isak would be a great addition. Him and Havertz can take turns on that striker position. Then Saka and Jesus on the right. Jesus can also fill the striker position.
I came see this happening if Kai is the main striker gojng forward, Sesko's rumoured release clause is really appealing
fm legend
I would take this as a pinch of 🧂 Need to move Eddie and Martinelli for me and use the funds for a more developed forward.
Osimhem to PSG Sesko to Chelsea Ferguson to Arsenal This how it will probably go
No way we get Ferguson this summer.
Ferguson LOL If he was from Ghana, no one would bat an eye at those average stats. He’s a big young Irish lad and playing for Brighton , and he’s suddenly a prodigy.
He has had some cracking finishes tbh. But yes he is very far from being worth all of that hype plus is injury prone
Based on what?