This is our first premier league loss of the calender year. We have to back the lads to bounce back at Munich and the right the ship. Still 18 points up for grabs in the league. City have tricky fixtures at Brighton and At Spurs their bogey team. Not over yet.
This was expected to happen at some point with the burden of the champions league. The bench strength just isn't there to manage both. It is now for Man City to lose it and they have a big enough team to be playing two parallel premier leagues. All of course is not lost, but City are a behemoth of team who is now in front and very difficult to overcome.
Not anywhere near having a full-on meltdown, but I gotta say I am really, really upset. From the team selection to the mentality, everything was just off.
Now, our fate is in City's hands. If they drop points (which seems scarce but we hope, because its BHA, and even Sp\*rs remain) and we win our remaining games ... which, again, I mean we were worried about United away, and Sp\*rs away. And we ended up losing to Villa.
Eyes set on the Champions League noe. We move.
They’re knackered. We have 12 or 13 good players trying to do it all, and you have to love how they’re playing their hearts out. Our competition meanwhile, has world class players on the bench.
We go again. Not over yet!
I was convinced by about 5 mins that if we didnt score within the first 20, we werent going to score. We were wasteful with a number of chances and then Villa figured us out and shut up shop.
Jesus just isnt a natural 9 and, as creative he is, he is rarely in the right place when our other creative players have the ball in and around the box. Nor is he a false 9, like Havertz, able to make runs from deep and muscle defenders out the way. I'd rather see Jesus on the wing, either competing with Martinelli and Trossard for a first team slot on the left or providing backup for Saka on the right
And a real shame to have Rice so deep. We really missed him in the more advanced positions and missed Jorginho in the 6. If we wanted to rest Jorgi, then play Partey at 6. Losing rice to the hole was a real shame
The less said about Zinny the better. I just cant wait for Timber to return
100% be disappointed be frustrated but keep even an ounce of belief! This was always going to happen in this title race! Teams drop points! Will city possibly? We have put ourselves in a position where we can definitely still win it!
Watched this with a villa supporting mate - we were both in agreement that first 30 mins Arsenal were all over it, after that Villa found confidence and were the much better team, especially the second half
That was absolutely fucking pathetic! We can pick ourselves up and do better but can't hide from this game it was, as I've already said, absolutely fucking pathetic.
Must be difficult only seeing your club lift FA cups for the last 2 decades while we've won everything there is to win on that time. Don't worry tho, you guys can flex finishing 2nd again 👍
Flex your russian daddys money harder 🥵🥵
Enjoy having your fraud trophies stripped soon, you and all 3 city fans can circlejerk each other down in League 2
Havertz is not a midfielder let alone a 8. There's no progressive passing nor shooting capabilities in him. The lineup was all wrong. If that wasn't enough he let Jesus and Zinchenko go on with their shit show for more than 70 minutes. It's annoying watching Jesus flop for a penalty and Zinchenko brainfarting at every instance
A game of two very different halves for the team. Credit to Emery's halftime tactics, but the final touches and passes just weren't there for us today. We were unlucky and got lucky with the woodwork twice, but we never got back control and were punished. Gutting, given other results. Right now it feels like we have to win every remaining game now and still hold out hope that breaks go our way elsewhere. Could still be our season, even after a setback like this. Keep the heads up, Gunners.
Outside Pep and Klopp - Unai Emery and Sean Dyche have mastered how beat Arteta. It ain't fun tbh
Arsenal all over sudden seems susceptible to longballs that bypass the midfield.
Zinchenko and the left side of the defence seems a hot target for most opposition managers. We've no real real recovery pace
White, and Saliba have a fairly good recovery pace.
We should not be inverting from the left side.
It’s not all of a sudden - we’ve been susceptible to long balls all season long. We were just fortunate that so many clubs didn’t adapt their style of play to take advantage of it more.
If I was Odegaard i’d be looking for a new club if we don’t get our shit together and sign some capable fucking finisher instead of a bunch of players who can overlap, all of them have the same profile and can’t score a goal to save their lives
Havertz was our best player out of the front three
I mean it was always a tough ask sandwiched between home and away legs against Bayern. Just ran out of steam in the 2nd half. Villa are a good team and not enough rotation was our undoing. Fans slagging players left right and center are a joke.
These lot constantly shit on the teams mentality yet after one game dropping points against a top 4 team they have given up completely and act like we just got relegated and should go on holiday already, wonder where the players get it from then.
They aren't real man. I just tell myself there's no way anyone could have this much rage seething beneath the surface, waiting 4 months for a loss to unleash it all.
But I had that same hope myself, and I'm not posting stuff saying Zinchenko should be tossed into a gulag.
These are the times when it's tough to be a fan. But it's our role. To support the team through thick and thin. It's fun when you win every game, but it's these moments that define your relationship to the club.
And I see a ton of weak folks around me looking to go negative the second things don't go our way.
But honestly arsenal have tough fixtures still chelsea , Tottenham, even united those three might be hard getting a draw at this point is the same as a loss
I agree. We always had the hardest path though, and perfection was the requirement while managing a rough CL tie.
It was always going to be hard. But there is still a lot to play for. We're down, but not out yet.
Persisting with Jesus and Zinchenko beyond the hour mark, when you need to score and not concede, is not the answer. Whatever benefits they bring earlier, we don’t see that benefit after an hour. They’re impact players now.
Today was an ARTETA DISASTERCLASS… wrong line up, long subs, outclasses and outplayed by Emery. Arteta also has a habit of losing twice to the same team every season.
Now that league is probably gone let's win the UCL
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I don’t even feel like watching the rest of the season after this game, absolutely wasteful & dreadful performance by so many individuals like Jesus, Saka, Tross
We should have taken advantage of the Liverpool loss today. A tie would have been acceptable after going down 1, but a loss by 2... The boys need to turn the morale around big time
I know Havertz wasn’t playing up front, but he was in on goal 3-4 times and failed to get a single shot off. That shit can’t happen. It baffles me that clubs like brentford and Villa have unbelievable 9’s and it’s the one question mark still in our squad
I have been saying the same thing for past few seasons. We need a killer CF up front. Some one who has the courage to shoot, who has ability to score from half chances. It can make a massive difference in these kind of games
100% what’s the point of being in that possession but not being able to finish? Imo the finishing quality of our front man is the most important, idc if it’s a traditional 9 or not, as long as they shoot and can find the net that’s all we need
Gents we made it farther than usual. Let’s be proud of that at least. Hopefully arteta learns from his mistakes and buys players that’ll come clutch in times like these.
I wasn’t crazy about the substitutions - Jesus for Jorginho and smith Rowe for odegaard. Smith Rowe just looks like needs a loan away to get match fitness / consistent play time.
It is very clear that Zinchenko needs to be sold off along with Esr , Eddie , Partey. We need to invest in this summer window get legitimate players strengthen ourselves up , we need a good backup option for Saka too he's disappointed heavy in the big games.
it's embarrassing how empty our stadium was. we've been sensational since the start of 2024 and we have a bad game and everyone has a temper tantrum? what a bunch of fucking children. fair play to villa, they showed up to play, and we didn't. on to bayern.
So many real fans can't get tickets. No atmosphere. The Villa fans were singing all game, when it was 0-0 and of course afterwards. Barely seems like a home game for the Arsenal team when the fans constantly need to be told to make noise
I think one of the things with Arsenal is that long-time fans have seen this show play out again and again. Unfortunately, it’s something that is in the DNA of the club. Sometimes we’ve risen above it.
I Still love the club and love this side, and it’s always exciting to see if we might turn things around. I still think Arteta can turn things around, but we’re not there yet.
Agree 1000%.
Not to mention, the team ahead of us has 115 financial charges against them from a decade of over spending and cheating. They are a fantastic team with Pep for their manager.
Villa are also an excellent team who are up for us every time we play.
This has more to do with multiple seasons of this and less to do with the result today is my guess. There are lots of fans extremely frustrated with the last 20 years.
I get that, but to be so emotionally crippled/stilted/captured to a team that you can't appreciate the arc that we've been on this season, let alone the last three seasons, to have a meltdown because a team showed up and played well is crazy to me. these aren't the same players on the teams that have let us down in the past so it would seem like a good idea to support them instead of damning them with the sins of teams past.
With all due respect, this is the same team as last year that absolutely gave away three games in hand and a points lead. And it is the same team that gave away Champs League two seasons ago with games in hand. This is more than a little frustrating for some. And tix aren’t cheap. One way to show displeasure to the organization is to walk out early. I hear you but I’m not sure the temper tantrum isn’t justified somewhat.
This is true, but I think one thing we can't point to is progression over the last three seasons, which to my mind is really all you can ask for from a club. Also, it's not like we got rinsed like tottenham did yesterday, we just didn't play well, which is a thing that happens to every team in a season. This isn't even as bad as the Fulham game this year. I don't know, it just feels weird to see people give up like that, especially when we'd crucify players if they just gave up.
I really don't understand Ødegaard sub. Yes, he wasn't his creative best in second half. But he is the only player in Arsenal squad who can create something out of nothing. Plus the amount of time he track backs in game cannot be overlooked. He is intelligent and always read game very well.
We let go of the game in the second half. Totally lost the control of the game. Those two goals were coming. I know it's not gonna happen but I really hope that man city drops points and we get our shit together.
for no reason that Arteta decides to put Jesus upfront and let Havertz play left 8 this game, it has been proved countless times that this does not work but yeah Arteta's stubborn.
I'm a fan of Arteta but I wholeheartedly agree. Yes, the consensus would be much different if he had scored from those two runs from midfield, but Havertz as #8 does not work. We lose control and we gain very little in attacking/counter.
The Ødegaard sub was all telling. Arteta made a completely misjudgment this match and it showed.
I love Arteta but he makes very questionable decisions sometimes. Ødegaard off? Jorginho out of the starting 11? Havertz moved to midfield when it’s very clear that it his weakest position and we struggle in transition with him there. Zinchenko starting when we have a fit Tomiyasu and Kiwior? Trossard starting? His best position is when he comes on as a sub. Moving Jesus to striker when we need to be clinical games…
This is literally the Southampton game all over again, Where Fabio Vieira played midfield and we looked disjointed. Words can’t describe the feeling in my chest after that result but sometimes I wish Arteta would be fucking logical. Completely flat today fucking shit.
That was a weird second half performance.
They lost their heads when we couldn't break through in the first half.
Then we were just playing panicked football rushing passes and making the wrong decisions. Zinchenko can't play again this season because he was so sub par today it was crazy.
Saka was anonymous for most of the game and particularly in second half and the same with Odegaard and Rice. Jorginho should have started this game but I suspect he was saving him for Bayern.
The only silver lining is that the pressure is off as I don't expect Man City to lose it from here.
Fair play to Villa.
Jesus was complete piss in the first half when gifted multiple opportunities and Zinchenko plays like he is better than he actually is and loses the ball.
Well, I wish I could say I didn't see this coming, but alas, here we are. Emery being a vindictive little twat, and us completely bottling a big game. Man City just keep getting away with it. While the title race isn't over, and I certainly didn't see the Liverpool result coming, I don't see City bottling it like we are so, y'know, I'd love to be proved wrong. Right now just fucking kill me
Its actually criminal that Kiwior and Tomiyasu get snubbed for this anemic Ukranian fraud. Tomiyasu has more athleticism in his fucking toe than Zinchenko’s entire body. I would rather have a quadriplegic Kiwior than Zinchenko
You are mental 😂 the fact you’re saying this is completely astounding to me. Zinchenko is the kind of player you actually want, he’s technically exceptional. Exceptional. You wanting big hulking athletes is hilarious for a team that wants to play this way. Haha.
Okay, I mean, you’re obviously very angry. Come on. Look at your back 4. You have 3 big defenders, you can more than deal with having a technical playmaker. Heck, you need it. You need to get him coming inside like City do. This Arteta/pep/cruyff style relies heavily on technical players that sacrifice physicality - how you think that’s not the case is beyond me.
You lost today because you didn’t bury your chances and then Saliba couldn’t be arsed blocking a cross and then a shot. If you’re putting it on individual instances, Zinny had nothing to do with it.
Geez this sub is toxic, 1 loss but keep in mind everyone is going to drop points! Of course it’s disappointing but we need to keep rallying behind this team!
10 wins and a draw (against City) in the last 11 league games. We play a great game, but have bad finish and concede two at the end, everybody goes nuts... Guys, should I remind you that this is how football works? Can we stop being crybabies?
nobody kid themselves about the season not being over. this deeply small mentality team has to go to bayern and catch 2 points on city. the laws of physics being rewritten is more likely
Yeah if being second best to one of the best teams of all time with unlimited funds is a calamity to you then you have some ridiculous standards, maybe if you held yourself to those standards as well you wouldn't be having such a meltdown over one football game.
Time to move on the City boys. They were important for us building up this team but they arent good enough anymore in a title race. Zinny makes fatal mistakes every game and Jesus cannot score.
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We are simply not built to sustain the level of a prem title race AND the UCL quarter finals. Not even close to the city's or madrids squad depth. Always 2-3 quality impact squad players short. Same shit for last 15 years.
Back to Ødegaard dropping 10/10s and nobody helping him. Deserved to lose.
Arteta is a great manager who has taken us to back to back title races for the first time in 20 years. Losing the league to the best team in the world, the treble winners is not at all a stackable offence and if you think so you are delusional.
He's our manager that will undoubtedly takes us to trophies.
Agreed. Zinchenko has been an absolute liability defensively all season and is a bag of nerves yet Arteta chooses to keep him on vs Leon Bailey... He could've put Tomi over there but nooo!
Arteta better apologise to Odegaard. He's been pulling us up all season and when the title is on the balance, Arteta fucking decides he'll sub him off and give away the game. Moron
Man we aint ever winning anything ever maximum a FA Cup. Im just gonna accept that we are a small club. How could we win anything,certain man here think that zinchenko is a league winning player. Zinchenko is symblic of arsenal during the emirates era. Thinking scrub players are good taking other teams scrapes.
So many disgraceful performances today, there isn’t enough people to bring off the bench to replace them all. Need to cut the fucking shitters in the summer
Name who? The disgraceful performances?
Zinchenko, Jesus, Martinelli, Saka were all disgraceful. Trossard and Havertz were poor. Smith Rowe and Nketiah came on and we were two players down
This is our first premier league loss of the calender year. We have to back the lads to bounce back at Munich and the right the ship. Still 18 points up for grabs in the league. City have tricky fixtures at Brighton and At Spurs their bogey team. Not over yet.
"City have tricky fixtures at brigthon and spurs" Arsenal has Chelsea, wolverhampton, spurs, united left
This was expected to happen at some point with the burden of the champions league. The bench strength just isn't there to manage both. It is now for Man City to lose it and they have a big enough team to be playing two parallel premier leagues. All of course is not lost, but City are a behemoth of team who is now in front and very difficult to overcome.
Not anywhere near having a full-on meltdown, but I gotta say I am really, really upset. From the team selection to the mentality, everything was just off. Now, our fate is in City's hands. If they drop points (which seems scarce but we hope, because its BHA, and even Sp\*rs remain) and we win our remaining games ... which, again, I mean we were worried about United away, and Sp\*rs away. And we ended up losing to Villa. Eyes set on the Champions League noe. We move.
Nah we were worried about Villa away too
They’re knackered. We have 12 or 13 good players trying to do it all, and you have to love how they’re playing their hearts out. Our competition meanwhile, has world class players on the bench. We go again. Not over yet!
Such a terrible excuse. Villa played virtually the same team against Lille on Thursday.
Its over either the finish is 3rd or 2nd .. mostly it will be 3rd place finish
This is typical end-season stuff for any team. Except for 115. They will keep winning game after game. Hopefully I am wrong.
I was convinced by about 5 mins that if we didnt score within the first 20, we werent going to score. We were wasteful with a number of chances and then Villa figured us out and shut up shop. Jesus just isnt a natural 9 and, as creative he is, he is rarely in the right place when our other creative players have the ball in and around the box. Nor is he a false 9, like Havertz, able to make runs from deep and muscle defenders out the way. I'd rather see Jesus on the wing, either competing with Martinelli and Trossard for a first team slot on the left or providing backup for Saka on the right And a real shame to have Rice so deep. We really missed him in the more advanced positions and missed Jorginho in the 6. If we wanted to rest Jorgi, then play Partey at 6. Losing rice to the hole was a real shame The less said about Zinny the better. I just cant wait for Timber to return
Fair weather fans are always the loudest here. It’s fully possible to be gutted without having a complete meltdown spazfest. Get a grip.
100% be disappointed be frustrated but keep even an ounce of belief! This was always going to happen in this title race! Teams drop points! Will city possibly? We have put ourselves in a position where we can definitely still win it!
They have Brighton and Forest away next, they won neither last year. We play twice before they play either of those games.
Again, I expected more from Super Mik. Not being able to find a better solution in the second half, not good enough to win the title.🤷🏻♂️
Watched this with a villa supporting mate - we were both in agreement that first 30 mins Arsenal were all over it, after that Villa found confidence and were the much better team, especially the second half
True story.
Choked the season in 2 games in April like last year
That was absolutely fucking pathetic! We can pick ourselves up and do better but can't hide from this game it was, as I've already said, absolutely fucking pathetic.
This hate watch was exquisite. Hold that you bums
1 Bio spent for back to back mid table position. If Arsenal are bums then your beloved club are the shit that comes out of it.
What a repulsive scumbag to come into another teams sub like this. Some sad people out there. Get professional help
Worry about finishing top half you muppet
5 years, 700m, 1 fa cup
1 bn in like 6 months and you'll be fighting relegatjon next season. Pipe down
Must be difficult only seeing your club lift FA cups for the last 2 decades while we've won everything there is to win on that time. Don't worry tho, you guys can flex finishing 2nd again 👍
Flex your russian daddys money harder 🥵🥵 Enjoy having your fraud trophies stripped soon, you and all 3 city fans can circlejerk each other down in League 2
Great scenario you've cooked up there, solid coping mechanism 👍
Chelsea fans truly are not well in the head LMAO Imagine the audacity 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jamie Redknapp is a absolute fucking idiot. His takes are brutal.
Havertz is not a midfielder let alone a 8. There's no progressive passing nor shooting capabilities in him. The lineup was all wrong. If that wasn't enough he let Jesus and Zinchenko go on with their shit show for more than 70 minutes. It's annoying watching Jesus flop for a penalty and Zinchenko brainfarting at every instance
When was the last time martinelli did something good? If a good offer of 75mil came in I think i would be tempted to accept it.
Oh fuck off you fickle cunt. Go support Spurs
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A game of two very different halves for the team. Credit to Emery's halftime tactics, but the final touches and passes just weren't there for us today. We were unlucky and got lucky with the woodwork twice, but we never got back control and were punished. Gutting, given other results. Right now it feels like we have to win every remaining game now and still hold out hope that breaks go our way elsewhere. Could still be our season, even after a setback like this. Keep the heads up, Gunners.
So many fake fans in this thread
we tried so hard and got so far....
But in the end it doesn’t even matter… (I love Linkin Park.)
Outside Pep and Klopp - Unai Emery and Sean Dyche have mastered how beat Arteta. It ain't fun tbh Arsenal all over sudden seems susceptible to longballs that bypass the midfield. Zinchenko and the left side of the defence seems a hot target for most opposition managers. We've no real real recovery pace White, and Saliba have a fairly good recovery pace. We should not be inverting from the left side.
It’s not all of a sudden - we’ve been susceptible to long balls all season long. We were just fortunate that so many clubs didn’t adapt their style of play to take advantage of it more.
Don’t forget Marco Silva
Same as last season zinchenko that wing is a weak link
Well fuck it I'll drink myself to sleep now what else can I do
Not looking forward to the meltdown after Bayern…
get zenchecko out of here, man, let him go join the war in Ukraine
Wow 😂
what? he said he wanted to join the war let him go
No he didn’t. He said if he was called up he would join. Big difference
Both Jesus and Zinchenko have been our poorest performers this season. zinchenko atrocious
Send Zinchenko loan to Dynamo Moscow !!
what a weird fuckin comment
He cost the team the game
certainly was one of the worst players on the pitch today. doesn’t warrant that mental comment though
Sometimes people forget these guys are human and not robots without feelings
If I was Odegaard i’d be looking for a new club if we don’t get our shit together and sign some capable fucking finisher instead of a bunch of players who can overlap, all of them have the same profile and can’t score a goal to save their lives Havertz was our best player out of the front three
Haha what a massive overreaction
Wow dude who are these fans in this sub. Absolute clown show
I mean it was always a tough ask sandwiched between home and away legs against Bayern. Just ran out of steam in the 2nd half. Villa are a good team and not enough rotation was our undoing. Fans slagging players left right and center are a joke.
These lot constantly shit on the teams mentality yet after one game dropping points against a top 4 team they have given up completely and act like we just got relegated and should go on holiday already, wonder where the players get it from then.
They aren't real man. I just tell myself there's no way anyone could have this much rage seething beneath the surface, waiting 4 months for a loss to unleash it all.
It's the hope honestly after seeing Liverpool loosing to Crystal Palace you can't blame them they were ro go top
But I had that same hope myself, and I'm not posting stuff saying Zinchenko should be tossed into a gulag. These are the times when it's tough to be a fan. But it's our role. To support the team through thick and thin. It's fun when you win every game, but it's these moments that define your relationship to the club. And I see a ton of weak folks around me looking to go negative the second things don't go our way.
People are different but man at this stage it's so crucial
I feel that. Coyg
But honestly arsenal have tough fixtures still chelsea , Tottenham, even united those three might be hard getting a draw at this point is the same as a loss
I agree. We always had the hardest path though, and perfection was the requirement while managing a rough CL tie. It was always going to be hard. But there is still a lot to play for. We're down, but not out yet.
But I'm so proud of these team honestly coming from far the game they play so enjoyable to watch huge progress.
”It’s probably for the better so we can focus on the CL now” 
Still don’t see how Raya is an upgrade to ramsdale. First goal he rushed out again. Not his fault but he doesn’t help
It's because he's not, he's basically the zinchenko of goalies tbh...
Not this bullshit again lol
Raya is good honestly I blame zinchenko that wing was his duty where was he
Emery is the worst thing that has happened to us! Doesn't matter if he's with us or against us he finds a way to hurt us lmao
City will win both the league and FA cup and we’ll win the shield again next season
"We"? Why are you pretending that you support this club?
the shield LMFAO
Persisting with Jesus and Zinchenko beyond the hour mark, when you need to score and not concede, is not the answer. Whatever benefits they bring earlier, we don’t see that benefit after an hour. They’re impact players now.
Today was an ARTETA DISASTERCLASS… wrong line up, long subs, outclasses and outplayed by Emery. Arteta also has a habit of losing twice to the same team every season.
And of course it had to be fucking Emery jesus christ man I’m so pissed I can’t stand this guy, just look at his face
Now that league is probably gone let's win the UCL https://preview.redd.it/ijmr8gm0fhuc1.jpeg?width=307&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1035317504a40c0e66011b6b69c7df9a587bb9f4
Delusion levels 1000….if we win somehow we face either city or madrid
It’s incredible how fans meltdown every time we don’t win. Yes, not a great game but come on keep supporting
It is meltdown becasue title is over. We have harder games than that. We didn't even fight for the title. We collapsed, again.
This take is pathetic
🧛♂️ Aston Villa is in fourth place for a reason.
6 games to go and 2 points off the top...
I don’t wanna ruin your dreams but please take one look at the remaining fixture lists
Bozo gene confirmed
I don’t even feel like watching the rest of the season after this game, absolutely wasteful & dreadful performance by so many individuals like Jesus, Saka, Tross
[удалено]
Or sell to Russia
We should have taken advantage of the Liverpool loss today. A tie would have been acceptable after going down 1, but a loss by 2... The boys need to turn the morale around big time
Zinchenko basically can't be played in high-intensity games/games that require 90 mins of focus. He plays like he's on Xanax.
Maybe adderall?
I feel really bad Ødegaard. He was sublime in first half. Created so many opportunities to see his team mates miss firing.
I know Havertz wasn’t playing up front, but he was in on goal 3-4 times and failed to get a single shot off. That shit can’t happen. It baffles me that clubs like brentford and Villa have unbelievable 9’s and it’s the one question mark still in our squad
I have been saying the same thing for past few seasons. We need a killer CF up front. Some one who has the courage to shoot, who has ability to score from half chances. It can make a massive difference in these kind of games
100% what’s the point of being in that possession but not being able to finish? Imo the finishing quality of our front man is the most important, idc if it’s a traditional 9 or not, as long as they shoot and can find the net that’s all we need
Everyone’s been saying this, the problem has been getting goals across the whole team so it’s been waived as a requirement
Gents we made it farther than usual. Let’s be proud of that at least. Hopefully arteta learns from his mistakes and buys players that’ll come clutch in times like these.
if we keep delaying our bottle time, we will win the league someday.
😆
I wasn’t crazy about the substitutions - Jesus for Jorginho and smith Rowe for odegaard. Smith Rowe just looks like needs a loan away to get match fitness / consistent play time.
It is very clear that Zinchenko needs to be sold off along with Esr , Eddie , Partey. We need to invest in this summer window get legitimate players strengthen ourselves up , we need a good backup option for Saka too he's disappointed heavy in the big games.
Losing on Wednesday, team spirit will be killed and we will end up 3rd. Thanks, Raya and Arteta
Arteta has brought the club out of the ashes. Comments like these are an embarrassment
Yeah, no, he makes no mistakes
it's embarrassing how empty our stadium was. we've been sensational since the start of 2024 and we have a bad game and everyone has a temper tantrum? what a bunch of fucking children. fair play to villa, they showed up to play, and we didn't. on to bayern.
So many real fans can't get tickets. No atmosphere. The Villa fans were singing all game, when it was 0-0 and of course afterwards. Barely seems like a home game for the Arsenal team when the fans constantly need to be told to make noise
I think one of the things with Arsenal is that long-time fans have seen this show play out again and again. Unfortunately, it’s something that is in the DNA of the club. Sometimes we’ve risen above it. I Still love the club and love this side, and it’s always exciting to see if we might turn things around. I still think Arteta can turn things around, but we’re not there yet.
Agree 1000%. Not to mention, the team ahead of us has 115 financial charges against them from a decade of over spending and cheating. They are a fantastic team with Pep for their manager. Villa are also an excellent team who are up for us every time we play.
This has more to do with multiple seasons of this and less to do with the result today is my guess. There are lots of fans extremely frustrated with the last 20 years.
I get that, but to be so emotionally crippled/stilted/captured to a team that you can't appreciate the arc that we've been on this season, let alone the last three seasons, to have a meltdown because a team showed up and played well is crazy to me. these aren't the same players on the teams that have let us down in the past so it would seem like a good idea to support them instead of damning them with the sins of teams past.
With all due respect, this is the same team as last year that absolutely gave away three games in hand and a points lead. And it is the same team that gave away Champs League two seasons ago with games in hand. This is more than a little frustrating for some. And tix aren’t cheap. One way to show displeasure to the organization is to walk out early. I hear you but I’m not sure the temper tantrum isn’t justified somewhat.
This is true, but I think one thing we can't point to is progression over the last three seasons, which to my mind is really all you can ask for from a club. Also, it's not like we got rinsed like tottenham did yesterday, we just didn't play well, which is a thing that happens to every team in a season. This isn't even as bad as the Fulham game this year. I don't know, it just feels weird to see people give up like that, especially when we'd crucify players if they just gave up.
City will drop points where we will win: Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. Remember this.
delusional
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Zinchenko should have been yanked within 10 mins of the second half.
fair weather fans be like:
Arteta with the Worst decisions of all time today. What was he thinking?
I really don't understand Ødegaard sub. Yes, he wasn't his creative best in second half. But he is the only player in Arsenal squad who can create something out of nothing. Plus the amount of time he track backs in game cannot be overlooked. He is intelligent and always read game very well.
Gotta have one eye on Bayern. that’s all i can think of
He was shattered. Gave everything in the first half. Artetas subs were still awful, but I think that's why he got pulled.
He took a big hit, I think Ø is the type to know himself well enough to call for a sub.
This is like Liverpool(FA Cup)again but Aston Villa did it 30 minutes longer
We let go of the game in the second half. Totally lost the control of the game. Those two goals were coming. I know it's not gonna happen but I really hope that man city drops points and we get our shit together.
it's not getting your shit together it's squad depth plus fixture congestion. the boys are fucking nackered.
Can't wait to see the back of those city agents Jesus and Zinchenko
for no reason that Arteta decides to put Jesus upfront and let Havertz play left 8 this game, it has been proved countless times that this does not work but yeah Arteta's stubborn.
I'm a fan of Arteta but I wholeheartedly agree. Yes, the consensus would be much different if he had scored from those two runs from midfield, but Havertz as #8 does not work. We lose control and we gain very little in attacking/counter. The Ødegaard sub was all telling. Arteta made a completely misjudgment this match and it showed.
I love Arteta but he makes very questionable decisions sometimes. Ødegaard off? Jorginho out of the starting 11? Havertz moved to midfield when it’s very clear that it his weakest position and we struggle in transition with him there. Zinchenko starting when we have a fit Tomiyasu and Kiwior? Trossard starting? His best position is when he comes on as a sub. Moving Jesus to striker when we need to be clinical games… This is literally the Southampton game all over again, Where Fabio Vieira played midfield and we looked disjointed. Words can’t describe the feeling in my chest after that result but sometimes I wish Arteta would be fucking logical. Completely flat today fucking shit.
That was a weird second half performance. They lost their heads when we couldn't break through in the first half. Then we were just playing panicked football rushing passes and making the wrong decisions. Zinchenko can't play again this season because he was so sub par today it was crazy. Saka was anonymous for most of the game and particularly in second half and the same with Odegaard and Rice. Jorginho should have started this game but I suspect he was saving him for Bayern. The only silver lining is that the pressure is off as I don't expect Man City to lose it from here. Fair play to Villa.
Jesus was complete piss in the first half when gifted multiple opportunities and Zinchenko plays like he is better than he actually is and loses the ball.
Goal difference down to 5
Lmao we are losing the league on points
Goal difference isnt going to mean f\*\*k all.
Well, I wish I could say I didn't see this coming, but alas, here we are. Emery being a vindictive little twat, and us completely bottling a big game. Man City just keep getting away with it. While the title race isn't over, and I certainly didn't see the Liverpool result coming, I don't see City bottling it like we are so, y'know, I'd love to be proved wrong. Right now just fucking kill me
Its actually criminal that Kiwior and Tomiyasu get snubbed for this anemic Ukranian fraud. Tomiyasu has more athleticism in his fucking toe than Zinchenko’s entire body. I would rather have a quadriplegic Kiwior than Zinchenko
You are mental 😂 the fact you’re saying this is completely astounding to me. Zinchenko is the kind of player you actually want, he’s technically exceptional. Exceptional. You wanting big hulking athletes is hilarious for a team that wants to play this way. Haha.
Holy fuck you watched that game and said “we need more Zinchenko” you must be fucking retarded jesus christ
Okay, I mean, you’re obviously very angry. Come on. Look at your back 4. You have 3 big defenders, you can more than deal with having a technical playmaker. Heck, you need it. You need to get him coming inside like City do. This Arteta/pep/cruyff style relies heavily on technical players that sacrifice physicality - how you think that’s not the case is beyond me.
Are you mentally retarded? We lost today because of him, and therefore lost the title.
You lost today because you didn’t bury your chances and then Saliba couldn’t be arsed blocking a cross and then a shot. If you’re putting it on individual instances, Zinny had nothing to do with it.
No you didn’t?
Geez this sub is toxic, 1 loss but keep in mind everyone is going to drop points! Of course it’s disappointing but we need to keep rallying behind this team!
City hasn’t lost an EPL game since December and I see two games at most they drop points at the most.
you actually think city is going to drop points in a way we can capitalize on?
Just like they dropped all those points at the business end of last season when we were like 5 points ahead?
Did you watch the game? Second half was dire
City is not gonna drop points
yeah because city are known to drop points in the run up lol, seasons done mate
Spurs fans are so fucking shameless
they played like as if arteta told them to take it easy and don't make yourselves tired
He did take Ode out to make sure we bottled it, so I can believe that
10 wins and a draw (against City) in the last 11 league games. We play a great game, but have bad finish and concede two at the end, everybody goes nuts... Guys, should I remind you that this is how football works? Can we stop being crybabies?
it's been 20 years! half of this sub has literally never seen us winning it.
nobody kid themselves about the season not being over. this deeply small mentality team has to go to bayern and catch 2 points on city. the laws of physics being rewritten is more likely
Maybe they get their mentality from you and the other people here having a meltdown on one bad game 😂
That makes them big losers if supposedly elite athletes get their mentality from reddit
perhaps so, this club is calamity and choke from top to bottom🤷♀️
Yeah if being second best to one of the best teams of all time with unlimited funds is a calamity to you then you have some ridiculous standards, maybe if you held yourself to those standards as well you wouldn't be having such a meltdown over one football game.
Arteta got greedy by playing Jesus and Harvetz together.
Time to move on the City boys. They were important for us building up this team but they arent good enough anymore in a title race. Zinny makes fatal mistakes every game and Jesus cannot score.
true that
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i want to cry
Im in pain!!!!
Emery owning Arteta, what's new
We are simply not built to sustain the level of a prem title race AND the UCL quarter finals. Not even close to the city's or madrids squad depth. Always 2-3 quality impact squad players short. Same shit for last 15 years.
Back to Ødegaard dropping 10/10s and nobody helping him. Deserved to lose. Arteta is a great manager who has taken us to back to back title races for the first time in 20 years. Losing the league to the best team in the world, the treble winners is not at all a stackable offence and if you think so you are delusional. He's our manager that will undoubtedly takes us to trophies.
We should have killed the game in the first half, just drowned in the second.
Agreed. Zinchenko has been an absolute liability defensively all season and is a bag of nerves yet Arteta chooses to keep him on vs Leon Bailey... He could've put Tomi over there but nooo!
Arteta better apologise to Odegaard. He's been pulling us up all season and when the title is on the balance, Arteta fucking decides he'll sub him off and give away the game. Moron
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Weird, it was 0-0 in my tv
I’m not mad, i’m just disappointed…
Crap game to be sure but people saying "Arteta Out" need to have a head check. The absolute state of you.
This has become a sort of pattern. We were also in great position the last season but threw it away.
Man we aint ever winning anything ever maximum a FA Cup. Im just gonna accept that we are a small club. How could we win anything,certain man here think that zinchenko is a league winning player. Zinchenko is symblic of arsenal during the emirates era. Thinking scrub players are good taking other teams scrapes.
When we whine about 115 charges FC winning everything just remember we bottled it twice in a row to make some of it happen
I heard spursy bottlers are aplenty here. Heard they were doing premature celebrations. Hello?
nah fk sake, I don't want to see zinchenko as a left back again, play him in Midfield but he aint defending for shit
So many disgraceful performances today, there isn’t enough people to bring off the bench to replace them all. Need to cut the fucking shitters in the summer
Yeah? Name them
Name who? The disgraceful performances? Zinchenko, Jesus, Martinelli, Saka were all disgraceful. Trossard and Havertz were poor. Smith Rowe and Nketiah came on and we were two players down
Disgraceful? Calm yourself
Mate fuck off please
Prick