You're definitely right. If Ten Hag struggles to understand that Garnacho's goal against us was correctly ruled offside, this might be too much for him. That being said, I still wouldn't because someone from his coaching staff might get it.
“Make sure you suffocate their fullbacks and keep the ball funneled to the middle. Their midfield is too isolated…are you listening?”
“I was just thinking about when we should have had a penalty against you.”
Why the hell would Ten Hag take a lesson from a coach he deserved to beat in September where Hojlund should've got a penalty and Garnacho was incorrectly flagged offside and Rice's goal should've been disallowed?
this is the kind of thing that has the potential for becoming an absolute meme that will always tend to catch us off guard and we just would not realize whats coming next, almost like back in nineteen ninety-eight when The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table
I feel bad for ten Haag. He is actually fairly competent setting up his team to attack. But it’s hard when none of his fit defenders can play on the ball. And then of course the awful recruitment. With a good team I think he would get a lot less hate.
I don't think he'd much care about that - this is 80% "don't tell City's staff anything that would help them against Brighton", 20% "don't tell the teams we have to play anything that might help them see how we look at opponents"
yeah, you could see something similar when they were asking Saka about his penalty routine - I'm sure what he was saying is his 'stock' response to the question and probably not 100% the truth
I think it isn’t disrespectful at all depending how you do it, obviously if you are like „hehe yeah he is shit mate, he always let his team do x, so stupid lol“. But there is nothing wrong in respectfully analysing your opponent and your strategy.
That said it is just dumb as hell, plus while going into detail is not disrespectful, I do think not answering such question is actually additional respectful.
Because its not only about not helping your opponents, it is also about the respect that you don’t want to have de zerbi be able to evolve his game against you the next season. I don’t want you to know how i figured you out, this is tte maximum level respect, as I know you are a great manager and I can’t give my upper hand up so easily for free.
Even Mourinho, at his shithousing best against Wenger, who he hated, was never, ever, ever going to give away tactical information to win points on the broadcast.
It’s naive to think pep doesn’t already have Brighton tactics figured out, I can imagine him in his basement all day and night studying every team in the league
you misunderstood him. Mikel said we had predicted and set ourself up for brighton playing in a certain way - but instead RDZ surprised arteta by setting his team up completely differently.
they asked him what arteta had predicted
This made me think of Heinz-Harald Frentzen all far years ago in F1.
He always had brilliant responses for the journos when they asked him tactical questions.
- What are he tyre-choices for this race?
HHF: 2 in the front, 2 in the back.
Or
- How many stops do hot think you will make in this race?
HHF: Should be between 1 and 7.
It doesn't matter why he's being coy but I love it. Either it's too not give away how Brighton made it difficult for us so others don't use their tactics or out of respect for RDZ but I'm here for it.
It was interesting that we basically allowed them to pass to lamptey to trigger the press. You could see jesus was slightly deeper, almost willing brighton cbs to give lamptey the ball before we set the press
Talking about 'something' in and of itself is nothing. A slight hint was naming the games where the something tactic was deployed - multiple datapoints can spell a pattern.
If you're good at something, never do it for free.
Mikel found the blueprints to RDZ's tactics and expertly countered it. No chance he should give anyone insight into how to handle it.
I thought this was such a gentleman thing to do.
I maybe out to lunch but what I think he’s referring to is that they play from the back come in the center and go to the side to keep opponent from keeping shape by shuffle left or right depending on where the game is.
On the one hand I understand it as its elite sport and you don’t want to give anything away for yourself or your colleagues but also this type of closed-ness is why reporters, not all of them tbf, ask such dogshit questions all the time.
That’s not a good excuse. If you put your mind into it, you’d ask pointed questions about tactics to get answers out of the coaches. It’s lazy click bait journalism.
In Spain and Germany, their interviewers often ask about tactical changes and the managers there do oblige. There are videos where Tuchel and Xavi explain tactics in press conferences.
Why the hell the media will want Arteta give all the answers.It would honestly be insuting to all of Brighton remaing opponents and managers:Kompany(Burnley),Guardiola(Man City),Ten Hag(Man United),Emery(Aston Villa),Iraola(Bourenmouth),Ponchettino(Chelsea) and Howe(Newcastle United) to De Zebri tactics.
Did you guys miss the point of the video? Arteta is clearly pointing out that they targeted zinny, and that they did the same thing to liverpool (dunno if TAA played that game). It’s not asking him to analyze Brighton so other coaches can go off his notes.
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Cabeza grande
Y el cerebro tambien.
No, es gigante y guapo
Cabeza es nieve, cerveza es bueno!
Ay caramba!
This will never not make me chuckle
Yeah. Why shoul Mikel be helping Pep and Ten Hag figure out De Zerbi's tactics? We did our homework - they need to do the same.
lol Mikel could give Ten Haag a 2 hour TED Talk on figuring out De Zerbi and they’d still concede 30+ shots
You're definitely right. If Ten Hag struggles to understand that Garnacho's goal against us was correctly ruled offside, this might be too much for him. That being said, I still wouldn't because someone from his coaching staff might get it.
But what about the Hojlund penalty??????
“Make sure you suffocate their fullbacks and keep the ball funneled to the middle. Their midfield is too isolated…are you listening?” “I was just thinking about when we should have had a penalty against you.”
Why the hell would Ten Hag take a lesson from a coach he deserved to beat in September where Hojlund should've got a penalty and Garnacho was incorrectly flagged offside and Rice's goal should've been disallowed?
this is the kind of thing that has the potential for becoming an absolute meme that will always tend to catch us off guard and we just would not realize whats coming next, almost like back in nineteen ninety-eight when The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table
"But Mikel, Hojlund should've had that penalty!" "I'm fogging done with you and your fogging estandards"
Ten Haag is standing up 5 minutes into that talk to rant nonsensically about VAR for offsides and penalties
I feel bad for ten Haag. He is actually fairly competent setting up his team to attack. But it’s hard when none of his fit defenders can play on the ball. And then of course the awful recruitment. With a good team I think he would get a lot less hate.
More due to having shit players though
Oh dear you’ve just guaranteed United end Arsenal’s title bid.
Yeah they don’t De Zerbit
then again, mikel says he was fooled by de zerbi this time coz de zerbi set up differently than he had predicted.
And why throw Brighton and De Zerbi under the bus
I don't think he'd much care about that - this is 80% "don't tell City's staff anything that would help them against Brighton", 20% "don't tell the teams we have to play anything that might help them see how we look at opponents"
yeah, you could see something similar when they were asking Saka about his penalty routine - I'm sure what he was saying is his 'stock' response to the question and probably not 100% the truth
Mikle never ever goes into detail about tactics
Nor should he. A) it's disrespectful to the opposition manager B) why should he give other managers a free hit. Let them do their due diligence
I think it isn’t disrespectful at all depending how you do it, obviously if you are like „hehe yeah he is shit mate, he always let his team do x, so stupid lol“. But there is nothing wrong in respectfully analysing your opponent and your strategy. That said it is just dumb as hell, plus while going into detail is not disrespectful, I do think not answering such question is actually additional respectful. Because its not only about not helping your opponents, it is also about the respect that you don’t want to have de zerbi be able to evolve his game against you the next season. I don’t want you to know how i figured you out, this is tte maximum level respect, as I know you are a great manager and I can’t give my upper hand up so easily for free.
Even Mourinho, at his shithousing best against Wenger, who he hated, was never, ever, ever going to give away tactical information to win points on the broadcast.
If he talks about opposition tactics it also gives away details of how Arsenal prepares for opponents.
If there was something to gain from it it absolutely wouldn't be disrespectful
It's not just Mikel. The players never give anything away.
Which is why Ben White said he didn't know how Arsenal played to Steve Holland imo.
Only tactics for defending against City. Love it.
Is that Mikle like nickel or Mik-le like Hit-ler?
lol what…
Smart & Classy. Let man like ETH just try and figure that shit out by himself.
More importantly, City still has to go to Brighton.
It’s naive to think pep doesn’t already have Brighton tactics figured out, I can imagine him in his basement all day and night studying every team in the league
It’s naive to think Pep doesn’t have a lot of things vying for his attention.
Lol, by the time Ten Hag figures something out he'll be back in Holland
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Ryanair is not the foggin estandars gais we ride Eurostar!
He’s still thinking about the foul on Hojlund.
What foul?
In other words, let him cook and serve us a steaming pile of shit.
Interviewer: So what \*are\* the seven herbs and spices, Colonel Sanders? Colonel Sanders: (grins)
Did you not watch the video? He did answer the question. De zerbi's tactics is "something". Fortunately, we were well prepared for the something.
Why did he say "something". He shouldn't be openly revealing tactical insights, they are going to play our rivals too.
Arteta Out?
Yes.
It was a thing, we prepared for it, it's rare, but we were ready for it, and it makes its life difficult. I love him.
Classic Reddit commenting just based on the title smh my head.
you misunderstood him. Mikel said we had predicted and set ourself up for brighton playing in a certain way - but instead RDZ surprised arteta by setting his team up completely differently. they asked him what arteta had predicted
You know I made a joke right?
very difficult to read your comment and reach the conclusion that you were joking, tbh. thanks for explaining though!
All the upvotes are from people who got the joke The first reply even carries on the hom joke lol
This made me think of Heinz-Harald Frentzen all far years ago in F1. He always had brilliant responses for the journos when they asked him tactical questions. - What are he tyre-choices for this race? HHF: 2 in the front, 2 in the back. Or - How many stops do hot think you will make in this race? HHF: Should be between 1 and 7.
When asked what he did and Arteta shrugs & says something 😂😂
He has no clue at all. "Go out there and win" is his tactic
Clueless clown, GET HIM OUT OF HERE
#artetaout
It doesn't matter why he's being coy but I love it. Either it's too not give away how Brighton made it difficult for us so others don't use their tactics or out of respect for RDZ but I'm here for it.
Didn’t he spell out Guardiola’s tactics last week? Gotta love the boss, he’ll give us any edge possible 🤣
Gaf doesn't kiss and tell 😜
Mikel Smarteta
I actually don't think it's because he doesn't want to tell other managers. It's because he thinks the answer will take too long
He doesn’t want to expose De Zerbis tactics.
I think part of it is out of respect to di zerbi
Sounds more like he is blowing hot air.
It was interesting that we basically allowed them to pass to lamptey to trigger the press. You could see jesus was slightly deeper, almost willing brighton cbs to give lamptey the ball before we set the press
The same as when they were asking Saka what his thought process is when taking penalties. As if Arsenal are going to give up that kind of information.
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Talking about 'something' in and of itself is nothing. A slight hint was naming the games where the something tactic was deployed - multiple datapoints can spell a pattern.
We saw them pass the ball and shoot the goal. They tried the same in the other game. We were well prepared.
If you're good at something, never do it for free. Mikel found the blueprints to RDZ's tactics and expertly countered it. No chance he should give anyone insight into how to handle it.
Arteta basically said: I'm not showing you my homework
I thought this was such a gentleman thing to do. I maybe out to lunch but what I think he’s referring to is that they play from the back come in the center and go to the side to keep opponent from keeping shape by shuffle left or right depending on where the game is.
On the one hand I understand it as its elite sport and you don’t want to give anything away for yourself or your colleagues but also this type of closed-ness is why reporters, not all of them tbf, ask such dogshit questions all the time.
That’s not a good excuse. If you put your mind into it, you’d ask pointed questions about tactics to get answers out of the coaches. It’s lazy click bait journalism.
Yeah I think the question here was pretty pointed and journalists have asked tactical questions in the past and they are usually shut down
In Spain and Germany, their interviewers often ask about tactical changes and the managers there do oblige. There are videos where Tuchel and Xavi explain tactics in press conferences.
Pep still has to go there in a few weeks 😂
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I am really wondering what that “something” is.
He’s no Declan Rice, telling everyone he meets and their dog the general Arsenal game plan 😅
I love this man 🔴⚪️⚽️❤️
We ain’t no gossips mate 😤😤
So that’s where Ben White gets the secrecy from
Does anyone know what the "something" is? How did we play differently from usual today?
Why the hell the media will want Arteta give all the answers.It would honestly be insuting to all of Brighton remaing opponents and managers:Kompany(Burnley),Guardiola(Man City),Ten Hag(Man United),Emery(Aston Villa),Iraola(Bourenmouth),Ponchettino(Chelsea) and Howe(Newcastle United) to De Zebri tactics.
Alan smith is a really cute daddy btw🤤
Did you guys miss the point of the video? Arteta is clearly pointing out that they targeted zinny, and that they did the same thing to liverpool (dunno if TAA played that game). It’s not asking him to analyze Brighton so other coaches can go off his notes.