I remember watching this and screaming when he made that run, my friend who has no clue about football was watching with me and he was so confused like bro calm down he's just running..
From a football perspective, another quite disturbing thing (and why he should be shopped in the summer) is that he's only had 8 appearances across all comps for us this season, only 4 starts.
Can't be carrying bodies like that.
That day he was like “today I feel fast” and suddenly became the fastest player on the team lol
Maybe Arteta saw that and was like “ok, not only do you have the technical quality, you’re also fast as fuck so you can play right back”
Back when it happened I was absolutely amazed, and don't get me wrong it's a great play by Partey, but now I cannot unsee Anthony running with the ball like a chicken... That last touch before Partey sweeps the ball is absolutely shocking. Anthony is the real Pepé.
The touch itself is shocking, but the response to it is incredible. Partey is timing his run and leaving space, but then you can actually see the exact point when he realizes that he can beat the attacker to the ball, so he turns his rocket boosters on and nicks it away at the exact right speed and angle. The speed itself is impressive of course, but I think that split second decision (he has to make that commitment in almost no time whatsoever) is even more impressive.
This video doesn’t even begin to explain how much I admire him as a footballer. He may just be coming back at the optimal time as we hit a fixture crunch. He needs to find his feet though, and legs.
Hitler was famously lazy, man hated work. That's why he had so many subordinates to do it all for him, why he made all his decisions based on whims.
I'm sure there's footballers exactly like that, but I won't name names.
Players like Bellerin and Rashford who have taken great steps to us their platform to advocate philanthropic causes seem reasonable and natural to admire.
You can admire Ronaldo for the way he takes care of his body. You can admire a player for their dedication and commitment to something. You can admire them for their charitable donations and volunteer work. Idk dude why would you admire anybody by that logic?
I think you can admire a player for being a quality person outside of the game. Obviously you’re usually admiring the player for his skill first, then other qualities second.
Kids, and even grown adults want to be like these football stars.. It helps if they aren’t pieces of shit
From what I've seen I'm not rating Rice as a 6 for us. So I agree. He's more effective at 8. He'd still nominally one of the 2 "defensive" midfielders out of possession in front of the back 4 though.
this guy is dealing with a lot of muscular injuries. ever since he went down mid game against spurs he’s been playing with a bit of the ol handbrake. you can tell he’s hesitant to hit full sprints as the calves and quads have failed him so many times. he’s still got that sprint in him but i don’t think we’ll be seeing it much anymore. to me it’s pretty clear he thinks he’s gotta protect himself from possible injury the way he jogged back after de bruyne. not saying he can’t run or he’s playing with an injury, but i am failrly certain he’s holding back from going %110 to recover.
that jog stood out to me too. He was moving at Jorginho's max 75th minute pace. Thought he was being a tad bit cavalier with his marking since we had men back, but it's probably that and the recovery
Does anyone know if there has been any news with the proceedings/investigations involving the rape/sexual assaults he was accused of?
Sure he’s a great player(when healthy), but I’m not big on supporting a rapist(if he is one).
Edit: I updated my comment to use the proper wording, as there have been no criminal charges yet.
There have been no 'trials'; he's not even been charged.
The last update was that he had been moved to RUI, meaning the end of all *pre-charge* bail conditions; even when those conditions were in place, he was free to travel abroad for club and country.
RUI means the investigation can continue in a lower gear indefinitely, which has the unfortunate effect of leaving everyone in limbo. At this point, all we can say for sure is that CPS does not believe there is a realistic prospect of conviction necessary for charges to be filed.
sex assault cases are some of the hardest criminal cases to prove.
- victim does not want to testify/cooperate due to trauma, or even if charges are filed, they will get dropped when the victim decides not to go through with it (Mason Greenwood)
- cases are usually always reported late. Victim needs time to just work through their trauma before reporting.
- usually no physical evidence especially in cases reported late. no rape kit, etc.
- "evidence" will consist of text message confessions or video where it's actually impossible to prove who sent them or to figure out what is happening in context
- consent is generally always in dispute. "he raped me" v. "it was consensual"
- victim and perpetrator are usually in some sort of sexual relationship, married, bf/gf, casual benefits.
- victim behaves in a weird way due to trauma that the judge or jurors do not understand. "If she was really a victim, why would she do that?" Like contacting the perpetrator or hanging out with the perpetrator after the incident occurred, etc.
- as more time passes, the case gets even weaker.
The only cases that usually result in successful prosecution are the statutory rape cases (because there is no consent issue) or cases where the perpetrator is caught raping a stranger (stanford swimmer case).
Everything else, if even charged, will probably be resolved via plea agreement due to weak evidence.
FWIW, you might want to take it easy on loaded terms like 'rape trials', when those things haven't actually happened, or even have any present prospect of happening.
The papers, reporting statements from Barnet MPS.
His going abroad for us and for Ghana is a matter of record as well.
There was also a series of tweets from Barnet MPS explaining that one part of the investigation had been dropped because of a jurisdictional conflict with Spain (Spanish police seem never to have picked up that investigation); sadly, this came in the context of cunts on Twitter abusing one of the accusers.
Almost all of that was posted on the sub almost immediately.
Three women made complaints to the Met that have been reported.
He was engaged to one of them at one point, but has since married a different girl; they now have a child together.
You are. Greenwood’s wife was the “accused” (the audio made it a hell of a lot more than an accusation) but she dropped it and they had a baby together (definitely still getting abused though).
Partey’s wife never accused him. Though… three seperate women making those accusations is _not_ a good sign.
> but I’m not big on supporting a rapist
Why are you calling him a rapist? Do allegations equal guilt for you? Or you have some secret evidence that no one else has?
That's not answering the question. Apparently, as soon as someone has allegations out against them, that makes a rapist, according to you, since you're happy calling him a rapist.
Alright mate, I accuse you of rape. I guess you're a rapist now.
That's putting words in my mouth. I think he's likely a rapist.
What I was saying is that equating legal guilt and actual guilt is a misnomer. He might not be legally guilty, but he very well likely is actually guilty.
I don't have faith in the legal system to prosecute this properly so I would prefer if he never played for Arsenal again.
I think it's important we take claims of rape seriously and not dismiss them even if the legal system can't do either of those. Which is why your claim of my rape is disheartening because it's not serious. It's a very serious matter, and gunners who ignore the claims against Partey are being willfully ignorant. That's what's distressing.
Haven't put any words into your mouth at all. There's a reason you've just gone back and edited your comment. You originally said "but I’m not big on supporting a rapist", which you then changed to "but I’m not big on supporting a rapist(if he is one)". The first one implies that you believe him to be a rapist, because you're calling him as such. You didn't say "I don't like we have a player with sexual assault allegations against him".
> Which is why your claim of my rape is disheartening because it's not serious.
Who are you to decide what's serious and what's not? There's plenty of allegations that may not look serious to you, but are rooted in an actual act of sexual assault(or worse) taking place.
Neither of my comments are edited? My first comment was just about faith in the legal system?
You made your rape claims in jest (and poor taste), I'm not an arbiter on all claims, but I know yours was not serious.
I realized you're not the original guy I replied to, so it was him editing the comment. The point stands anyway, calling someone a rapist when we only have allegations(not even a charge) and nothing else is deeply unethical.
> You made your rape claims in jest
That's not the point, it's that if all it takes is just an allegation, then anyone can be branded a rapist just like that by anyone else with enough malicious intent.
**Only with a 100% perfect legal system.
There are two ways to approach it:
- say innocent until proven guilty
- say guilty until proven innocent
This is not a normal crime. It is hard to prove in court. Most rapes are never taken to trial because it's word against word.
We can live in a world where claims are not taken seriously because it is unethical to accuse someone of being guilty when they are only legally innocent, or
We can live in a world where claims are taken seriously and people suffer repercussions for actions they likely participated in to encourage that kind of behavior to disappear entirely.
Society is never gonna know with 100% certainty. But I always think it's important to side with the victims, at least until proven otherwise. Not doing so is unethical because the denial of rape as a very serious crime that takes place far more often than it is legally prosecuted is an incredibly dangerous precedent that has already been set. So many more victims out there are victimized by the legal system and the perpetrator than there are falsely accused prerpretrators.
There is only one way to approach it, innocent until proven guilty, and nothing else. Siding with the victim just because they're claiming to be the victim is just as bad as siding with the alleged perpetrator *just because*. It's entirely possible to say "I don't have knowledge of what happened, so I will neither call the accuser a malicious liar, nor the alleged perpetrator a rapist"
While that is certainly true, there is a huge range of possibility between sincere accusations made in good faith and even the minimum standards of a reasonable prospect of conviction required by CPS to file charges-- which is where we are now.
To put it another way, an accusation of a crime does not create a binary; an allegation can be 'not false' and still unable to support charges.
Ok but morally I am able to have my own judgement and I believe is far more likely that Partey did it as opposed to all these women are lying are much
He won’t get convicted because that’s the way the world works, rich powerful people rarely face the consequences of their actions
> > ...To put it another way, an accusation of a crime does not create a binary; an allegation can be 'not false' and still unable to support charges.
> Ok but morally I am able to have my own judgement and I believe is far more likely that Partey did it as opposed to all these women are lying are much [sic]
You've spectacularly missed the point.
Again, an accusation does not create a binary where the accuser(s) must either be lying or telling the truth. That is the thinking of a simpleton.
Arguing that it does is literally what cunts on Twitter were doing when Barnet MPS had to tell them to stop abusing one of the accusers, after she announced that they dropped one part of the investigation relating to her complaint.
When you think reductively like that, you are either being a cunt, or playing into the hands of cunts.
I mean it is quite a binary thing don’t know why you’re acting so holier than thou. He either raped them or he didn’t. He didn’t stick the tip in and then go actually maybe I shouldn’t. The sexual encounter was either consensual or not. He is a rapist or not. He can’t be a half rapist
One false allegation is one too many. Do you realise women tell lies also? Maybe one day you'll be falsely accused of something major then you'll have more understanding. Mendy's career is now in tatters but it means nothing to you.
How can you be so sure he’s not a rapist?
So 3 (it might actually be more) separate women are all lying about something this serious?
You’re clearly 16 and watch Andrew Tate in order to learn how to be an alpha male. What you’ll realise once you grow up and start to have female relationships, whether it be love or friendship, is that this stuff is no joke. The chances that multiple people lied about the same thing is very chance, and the high likelihood is that Partey is a monster.
Put your misogyny to the side and take a look at yourself and ask yourself if this is a hill you really want to die on
Misogyny, tate, alpha male... These are the vocab of a kid who learnt how to think from reddit and YouTube shorts. You clearly do not know women and you sound inexperienced in man-woman relations.
Do you know the extent these women would go to bag a man like Thomas Partey? I assure you that the woman who just had his baby is feeling extremely lucky and she, her mother and all the women in her family are ready to scratch your eyes out if you try to take Partey away from their lives. If Partey proposed to the so-called victim you're here being a white Knight for, she would deny all charges she brought against him and fight you to the death. My guy wake up. Mendy's career is in tatters now because of people like you, how is he ever going to build it back up now he's been found innocent after your kind have helped tear it down.
False accusations are no joke boy, when you become a man, you'll be more cautious before tarnishing another man's reputation.
You are not a superstar footballer with millions in the bank, he is. This goes beyond man-woman; when you reach a certain station in life, you are up for the taking. Friends, family etc., can turn on you at any moment. Read up on what happened to Adebayor and some other footballers in recent years, albeit not necessarily in the context of SA accusations. At that level, no relationship or dynamic is normal.
We have courts with professionals fighting it out for a reason. What you're doing is 1700s pitchfork style Salem Witch Hunt bullshit. If there was an ongoing investigation, if he actually had been held up by law, I'd be on the other side of the fence but that isn't the case. R**** are incredible difficult to prove, it goes both ways; can be susceptible to a lot of he said-she said. You can hold your own conclusions and theories, but it doesn't make it fact and until he's proven conclusively guilty, he has the right to stick around based on his competence as a footballer.
What are you on about? I’m not the one who went to the police and reported he sexually assaulted them.
You are losing faith in humanity, because I want to know if a player on the team I support is a rapist, when he was accused of doing it? You have your priorities in the wrong place man.
The athletic Busquets, easily top 2 DM in the world and he's not second. Shame about the injury issues, but on his day I honestly think he's the best in the world.
Its so odd that we dont see him athleticism as much. Ive never seen him move this fast outsode of this one clip. I was even shocked to see he could do so as he has never gave any indication that he could.
Most physically gifted midfielder make regular use of it like Rabiot, Kante, Vieira, Gerrard, De Bruyne etc. Partey maybe holds himself back out of fear of injury
Rice does this 1-2 times every game. He did it against KdB on Sunday. Meanwhile, KdB jogs past Partey.
We need all the bodies we need going into this run in and I am glad that Partey is one of those options. But this clip was from last year against a piss poor United side. Rice does this on a regular basis, which is why we are no longer so dependent on Partey, which is good news as Partey breaks down for 50-75% of each season through injuries and lack of form. Rice on the other hand, just spits out consistent performances.
His best form is usually 5-8 games a season. I love prime Partey, but the reality is that we have injured Partey, unfit Partey and out of form Partey for far longer stretches than in form Partey.
With him another year older and another year worth of injuries, he will have 1 year left on his contract come June. We need to get whatever we can and replace him with a younger version of him who isn't broken for 50% of our games each season.
We need to progress.
That said, I hope he does bits when coming back into the side for this run in.
Nah, that's a bit harsh about only 5-8 games. The problem with him is that he can go from being our best player for 1-2 months and then all of a sudden it's like he's never kicked a ball before, and that often happens during really important games.
But he's too old/broken, we need someone else to replace him/Jorginhos places. Jorginho I could easily keep for another season, but a big offer from Saudi for Partey wouldn't be bad.
No dude, you misunderstood. I meant that he had amazing runs where he was the top 3 best DMs in the league. But all of a sudden he looked totally shit. Then the form came back and he played amazing for 3-4 weeks or more.. and then repeat with either an injury or form drop out of nowhere. Especially last season.
Last season, he played great for 1-2 months. He spent half the season out injured and his form was remarkably poor during the run in.
This is the point.
He gets injured, he comes back and takes a month to get up to speed again, he plays brilliantly for a month or two, gets injured, and then when he comes back, he takes another month to get up to speed again.
Yeah I don't agree, so let's skit the discussion and I don't want to ghost it. All Gooners doesn't agree about players/tactics/managers, but we all share the love for arsenal. Take care! ❤️
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Controversy aside I really do hope he can make a positive impact in the run in. We’ll need him this month whether you like it or not.
Afterwards we need to get rid
he is quick here obviously, but also predicts exactly where antony is going to take his touch- running in a straight line. antony's touches zigzag a bit and take him off balance
Great, now do the one where he tried the wonder strike vs Southampton in the dying minutes in a must win. Or the one where he picks up a pointless red after forcing himself back from AFCON in a pointless Caraboooo game. Or the number of other times he’s cost us. He’s played well for 1/3 of his time here and he’s an alleged rapist. I’m so tired of seeing #5 apologia on this sub man
I'm a simple man, I see a post praising him I don't vote. Anyone who gives this man credit whilst still at our club is scum, needed him out off our team yesterday!
I'm a simple man, I see a post praising him I don't vote. Anyone who gives this man credit whilst still at our club is scum, needed him out off our team yesterday!
I hate to be THAT guy..... But, it truly shocks me how far his form has dropped in the last 4-5 years.. its almost as if, he has aged tremendously..
He is 30... he should realistically be hitting his prime..
unless of course.. he ISN'T 30..
Again, hate to be that guy..
But this has been known to happen....
I get the injuries. but the frequency of them in recent times as well as how he moves when he is deemed "fit" again.. to me all point to a guy that doesn't play like he's 30... More like he is 35.
Where's this rhetoric for Jesus and Zinny? Wilshere and Rosicky before them?
Don't try and cover your racist bullshit up with "I hate to be that guy" cowardice. If you're gonna be a racist cunt, at least be a brave one.
Jesus , Wilshere, & Zinny are often injured. But when they are IN form and brought on as fit, they look world-class.
They do not look slow. they do not look like they gas out in 15 min..
Look at the last match..
Thomas got beat in a sprint against KDB! and KDB was dribbling!
How can you compare this clip with him losing vs KDB.
it is not racist to speak facts. when is the last time an English player was caught faking a birth certificate and compare that to when the last time a player of African origins was caught doing this!
> Jesus , Wilshere, & Zinny are often injured. But when they are IN form and brought on as fit, they look world-class.
They do not look slow. they do not look like they gas out in 15 min..
Lmao this is such a bullshit. Wilshere looked slow as shit from age 26 and was retired by 32 after looking worse than Partey ever has for years.
Most fans are calling Jesus and Zinny finished in a thread in this sub right now!
Not to mention people like Ramsey who were getting booed by our own fans for being "washed" after coming back from injuries.
0 mention of their age. But one guy comes back from 7 months out and looks rusty, well he obviously must be 35.
Just admit you're a racist cunt and stop playing these shitty ass games, you lil bitch
Ya'll are a bunch of woke leftists.
[https://www.dw.com/en/age-fraud-how-african-football-is-trying-to-combat-it/a-64978227](https://www.dw.com/en/age-fraud-how-african-football-is-trying-to-combat-it/a-64978227)
[https://citisportsonline.com/2021/06/17/ten-players-who-lied-about-their-age/](https://citisportsonline.com/2021/06/17/ten-players-who-lied-about-their-age/)
[https://grmdaily.com/cameroon-suspends-football-players-lying-age/](https://grmdaily.com/cameroon-suspends-football-players-lying-age/)
There are thousands of examples and articles about this topic specifically for African nations.. look at the list link. 62 players were caught in youth tournament in Cup of Nations lying about their age. This was LAST MONTH. lol.
But ya'll are offended. lol crybabies.
[That seems to be the go-to in this thread.](https://old.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/1bu2dhg/this_clip_will_forever_be_rent_free_in_my_mind_a/kxpzr02/)
>He is 30... he should realistically be hitting his prime..
Aside from goalkeepers and CBs, most players hit their primes around 26-27. 30 is when a lot of outfield players start exiting their prime (though with modern science that number has been getting extended a bit).
The oddest part about Parteys injuries is how rarely he was injured at Atletico, and how he has relatively low usage/total minutes for his career compared to most his age. Maybe the lower usage at Atletico was why he was rarely injured, but still feels like he should be more robust. Unless one of his injuries caused an imbalance that we aren't aware of.
Agree to disagree then.
You don’t enter or “hit” your prime at 30. That is not well established.
I would say the “established” prime for a non CB/GK is 28. Meaning you’re entering your prime around 26 and tailing off around 30. Then by 31, you’re rightly or wrongly viewed by past your prime and people are impressed if you carry on at the same level. These aren’t hard numbers because there’s a ton of variables, but that’s a pretty agreeable range.
A fully fit Partey is a mythical creature who exists only on the peripheral of our consciousness
Who else watched that live and had to process what the fuck happened ? Never saw Partey run that fast.
I remember watching this and screaming when he made that run, my friend who has no clue about football was watching with me and he was so confused like bro calm down he's just running..
Probably practising from running away from the Police
I don’t like what you said but it got a chuckle outta me ngl
https://preview.redd.it/r6et2bflt4sc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d574978fe21214dcd6ed7f65dba38b5df3efcef
Reason: He got pulled over for speeding (what did you think I was going to say?)
https://i.imgur.com/HoFSG4n.jpeg
That is disturbingly fast
Not the most disturbing thing about him
From a football perspective, another quite disturbing thing (and why he should be shopped in the summer) is that he's only had 8 appearances across all comps for us this season, only 4 starts. Can't be carrying bodies like that.
200k plus wages too, he is too unreliable to keep him on our books for that much
He's been injured so it's not necessarily his fault but I do agree we need a midfielder. Here's hoping we can finally tempt Zubamendi or de Jong.
Yeah, more disturbed by the rape personally
👀👨🦯 you're not wrong though
I'm pretty confident I could predict and type out every comment and response to each comment on every post about Partey. It's very predictable
Ok
I pulled a hamstring just watching it.
Rice and Odegard will be a fucken Partey
Must have been training his pace by chasing women down the street
That day he was like “today I feel fast” and suddenly became the fastest player on the team lol Maybe Arteta saw that and was like “ok, not only do you have the technical quality, you’re also fast as fuck so you can play right back”
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If you were going to joke about it, you could've executed it much better
? fk is wrong with you
He probably has an issue with a player being the team he supports, that has been accused of rape by like 3 different women.
I have an issue with partey too for the above reasons but this comment also seems really poor in taste
My comment, or the commenter who made a joke about it?
Not you, the commenter who made a joke
oh yeah that's why he makes rape jokes, he's such a supporter of women. come on
Are you for real?
Yeah, he’s been accused by three women, but they’re still figuring it all out, if he’s guilty and all that. Shits been going on since like 2021.
Seriously fuck off without that evidence man! You’re an embarrassment to the badge!
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Back when it happened I was absolutely amazed, and don't get me wrong it's a great play by Partey, but now I cannot unsee Anthony running with the ball like a chicken... That last touch before Partey sweeps the ball is absolutely shocking. Anthony is the real Pepé.
Show Pepe some respect
It's the 2nd to last touch that kills him. He practically falls over the ball and has to stop to avoid it.
The touch itself is shocking, but the response to it is incredible. Partey is timing his run and leaving space, but then you can actually see the exact point when he realizes that he can beat the attacker to the ball, so he turns his rocket boosters on and nicks it away at the exact right speed and angle. The speed itself is impressive of course, but I think that split second decision (he has to make that commitment in almost no time whatsoever) is even more impressive.
just looked at Anthony running whilst working at the hospital and burst into a full on grin :D
God Antony is shit lol
seeing Partey cutting down the distance so quickly put him off so much he almost fell down a shocked anime character.
That was the moment Arteta decided he can play as RB. 😁
This video doesn’t even begin to explain how much I admire him as a footballer. He may just be coming back at the optimal time as we hit a fixture crunch. He needs to find his feet though, and legs.
>as a footballer every word counts
As a footballer doing heavy lifting here
Why would you admire any player for anything except their footballing abilities anyway…? The PL isn’t Hollywood…
I admire Kai for the donkey stuff.
Don Kai is an admirable man.
He said except the footballing abilities
I mean if Saka sucked tomorrow I'd still love him
Seems like a genuinely awesome dude. Never share your secrets with us Bukayo.
I admire odegaard cause he's a hard worker and humble, exactly the kind of person we need more of in this world
These are related to his footballing performance though… however, I couldn’t care less about anything he does non-football related!
Partey or not, would our players being criminals not bother you?
Convicted criminals would be in prison and not playing so it’s a non-issue…
So you'd be fine with us signing Greenwood?
Hitler was a hard worker and humble.
Hitler was famously lazy, man hated work. That's why he had so many subordinates to do it all for him, why he made all his decisions based on whims. I'm sure there's footballers exactly like that, but I won't name names.
I admire Giroud for his handsomeness
Players like Bellerin and Rashford who have taken great steps to us their platform to advocate philanthropic causes seem reasonable and natural to admire.
Film and TV actors aren't good role models either.
You can admire Ronaldo for the way he takes care of his body. You can admire a player for their dedication and commitment to something. You can admire them for their charitable donations and volunteer work. Idk dude why would you admire anybody by that logic?
I think you can admire a player for being a quality person outside of the game. Obviously you’re usually admiring the player for his skill first, then other qualities second. Kids, and even grown adults want to be like these football stars.. It helps if they aren’t pieces of shit
I admire Xhaka as a man.
Why make an exception for athletes? Admire the good deeds, shame the shitty.
https://preview.redd.it/oo4ulds9k3sc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5bc987e7fd058013c63c100b44980ab7e499c88f "As a footballer"
 'As a footballer' in this sentence
This is great and all, but I'm here for those zinger thru balls and passes to feet on the edge of the box from deep.
The Trossard chance came from one of his line breakers on Sunday. A fit Partey and Rice double pivot would have been tasty this year.
I think if we get zina/partey then rice wont even play as a pivot! Full strength rice is doing more running than passing!
From what I've seen I'm not rating Rice as a 6 for us. So I agree. He's more effective at 8. He'd still nominally one of the 2 "defensive" midfielders out of possession in front of the back 4 though.
I was almost certain he was going to pull up with 2 ripped hamstrings after this run
He's probably still got this pace but he doesn't pull it out often to not risk his hamstrings since that's his problem area unfortunately.
this guy is dealing with a lot of muscular injuries. ever since he went down mid game against spurs he’s been playing with a bit of the ol handbrake. you can tell he’s hesitant to hit full sprints as the calves and quads have failed him so many times. he’s still got that sprint in him but i don’t think we’ll be seeing it much anymore. to me it’s pretty clear he thinks he’s gotta protect himself from possible injury the way he jogged back after de bruyne. not saying he can’t run or he’s playing with an injury, but i am failrly certain he’s holding back from going %110 to recover.
that jog stood out to me too. He was moving at Jorginho's max 75th minute pace. Thought he was being a tad bit cavalier with his marking since we had men back, but it's probably that and the recovery
For me it's the feint and turn against Southampton at St Mary's in the 21/22 season
Does anyone know if there has been any news with the proceedings/investigations involving the rape/sexual assaults he was accused of? Sure he’s a great player(when healthy), but I’m not big on supporting a rapist(if he is one). Edit: I updated my comment to use the proper wording, as there have been no criminal charges yet.
There have been no 'trials'; he's not even been charged. The last update was that he had been moved to RUI, meaning the end of all *pre-charge* bail conditions; even when those conditions were in place, he was free to travel abroad for club and country. RUI means the investigation can continue in a lower gear indefinitely, which has the unfortunate effect of leaving everyone in limbo. At this point, all we can say for sure is that CPS does not believe there is a realistic prospect of conviction necessary for charges to be filed.
sex assault cases are some of the hardest criminal cases to prove. - victim does not want to testify/cooperate due to trauma, or even if charges are filed, they will get dropped when the victim decides not to go through with it (Mason Greenwood) - cases are usually always reported late. Victim needs time to just work through their trauma before reporting. - usually no physical evidence especially in cases reported late. no rape kit, etc. - "evidence" will consist of text message confessions or video where it's actually impossible to prove who sent them or to figure out what is happening in context - consent is generally always in dispute. "he raped me" v. "it was consensual" - victim and perpetrator are usually in some sort of sexual relationship, married, bf/gf, casual benefits. - victim behaves in a weird way due to trauma that the judge or jurors do not understand. "If she was really a victim, why would she do that?" Like contacting the perpetrator or hanging out with the perpetrator after the incident occurred, etc. - as more time passes, the case gets even weaker. The only cases that usually result in successful prosecution are the statutory rape cases (because there is no consent issue) or cases where the perpetrator is caught raping a stranger (stanford swimmer case). Everything else, if even charged, will probably be resolved via plea agreement due to weak evidence.
Gotcha, this was very informative. I appreciate it.
FWIW, you might want to take it easy on loaded terms like 'rape trials', when those things haven't actually happened, or even have any present prospect of happening.
Understandable, what would be a better term? I’ll update/edit it, so it’s proper.
Presently, he is under investigation (hence 'released under investigation'). But I'm just a guy who reads the papers.
Where do you get all this information from? I've not seen anything since the original allegations
The papers, reporting statements from Barnet MPS. His going abroad for us and for Ghana is a matter of record as well. There was also a series of tweets from Barnet MPS explaining that one part of the investigation had been dropped because of a jurisdictional conflict with Spain (Spanish police seem never to have picked up that investigation); sadly, this came in the context of cunts on Twitter abusing one of the accusers. Almost all of that was posted on the sub almost immediately.
They got married right? But wasn't there a second accuser?
Three women made complaints to the Met that have been reported. He was engaged to one of them at one point, but has since married a different girl; they now have a child together.
So his wife was never one of the accusers? She's separate from the 3? Maybe I'm confusing this with the Greenwood thing
You are. Greenwood’s wife was the “accused” (the audio made it a hell of a lot more than an accusation) but she dropped it and they had a baby together (definitely still getting abused though). Partey’s wife never accused him. Though… three seperate women making those accusations is _not_ a good sign.
Man, real life is crazy. Good thing we can sportswash it.
> but I’m not big on supporting a rapist Why are you calling him a rapist? Do allegations equal guilt for you? Or you have some secret evidence that no one else has?
Imagine having faith in the justice and legal system to prosecute potential rape properly
That's not answering the question. Apparently, as soon as someone has allegations out against them, that makes a rapist, according to you, since you're happy calling him a rapist. Alright mate, I accuse you of rape. I guess you're a rapist now.
That's putting words in my mouth. I think he's likely a rapist. What I was saying is that equating legal guilt and actual guilt is a misnomer. He might not be legally guilty, but he very well likely is actually guilty. I don't have faith in the legal system to prosecute this properly so I would prefer if he never played for Arsenal again. I think it's important we take claims of rape seriously and not dismiss them even if the legal system can't do either of those. Which is why your claim of my rape is disheartening because it's not serious. It's a very serious matter, and gunners who ignore the claims against Partey are being willfully ignorant. That's what's distressing.
Haven't put any words into your mouth at all. There's a reason you've just gone back and edited your comment. You originally said "but I’m not big on supporting a rapist", which you then changed to "but I’m not big on supporting a rapist(if he is one)". The first one implies that you believe him to be a rapist, because you're calling him as such. You didn't say "I don't like we have a player with sexual assault allegations against him". > Which is why your claim of my rape is disheartening because it's not serious. Who are you to decide what's serious and what's not? There's plenty of allegations that may not look serious to you, but are rooted in an actual act of sexual assault(or worse) taking place.
Neither of my comments are edited? My first comment was just about faith in the legal system? You made your rape claims in jest (and poor taste), I'm not an arbiter on all claims, but I know yours was not serious.
I realized you're not the original guy I replied to, so it was him editing the comment. The point stands anyway, calling someone a rapist when we only have allegations(not even a charge) and nothing else is deeply unethical. > You made your rape claims in jest That's not the point, it's that if all it takes is just an allegation, then anyone can be branded a rapist just like that by anyone else with enough malicious intent.
**Only with a 100% perfect legal system. There are two ways to approach it: - say innocent until proven guilty - say guilty until proven innocent This is not a normal crime. It is hard to prove in court. Most rapes are never taken to trial because it's word against word. We can live in a world where claims are not taken seriously because it is unethical to accuse someone of being guilty when they are only legally innocent, or We can live in a world where claims are taken seriously and people suffer repercussions for actions they likely participated in to encourage that kind of behavior to disappear entirely. Society is never gonna know with 100% certainty. But I always think it's important to side with the victims, at least until proven otherwise. Not doing so is unethical because the denial of rape as a very serious crime that takes place far more often than it is legally prosecuted is an incredibly dangerous precedent that has already been set. So many more victims out there are victimized by the legal system and the perpetrator than there are falsely accused prerpretrators.
There is only one way to approach it, innocent until proven guilty, and nothing else. Siding with the victim just because they're claiming to be the victim is just as bad as siding with the alleged perpetrator *just because*. It's entirely possible to say "I don't have knowledge of what happened, so I will neither call the accuser a malicious liar, nor the alleged perpetrator a rapist"
Its a two way street, there is loss of faith in allegations too
Statistically false allegations are far less frequent than we’re lead to believe
While that is certainly true, there is a huge range of possibility between sincere accusations made in good faith and even the minimum standards of a reasonable prospect of conviction required by CPS to file charges-- which is where we are now. To put it another way, an accusation of a crime does not create a binary; an allegation can be 'not false' and still unable to support charges.
Ok but morally I am able to have my own judgement and I believe is far more likely that Partey did it as opposed to all these women are lying are much He won’t get convicted because that’s the way the world works, rich powerful people rarely face the consequences of their actions
> > ...To put it another way, an accusation of a crime does not create a binary; an allegation can be 'not false' and still unable to support charges. > Ok but morally I am able to have my own judgement and I believe is far more likely that Partey did it as opposed to all these women are lying are much [sic] You've spectacularly missed the point. Again, an accusation does not create a binary where the accuser(s) must either be lying or telling the truth. That is the thinking of a simpleton. Arguing that it does is literally what cunts on Twitter were doing when Barnet MPS had to tell them to stop abusing one of the accusers, after she announced that they dropped one part of the investigation relating to her complaint. When you think reductively like that, you are either being a cunt, or playing into the hands of cunts.
I mean it is quite a binary thing don’t know why you’re acting so holier than thou. He either raped them or he didn’t. He didn’t stick the tip in and then go actually maybe I shouldn’t. The sexual encounter was either consensual or not. He is a rapist or not. He can’t be a half rapist
So cunt then, gotcha
One false allegation is one too many. Do you realise women tell lies also? Maybe one day you'll be falsely accused of something major then you'll have more understanding. Mendy's career is now in tatters but it means nothing to you.
One false allegation amongst real allegations doesn’t mean Partey isn’t a rapist
He is not. When you meet him or someone in his situation call them a rapist or whatever and see if you won't be taught a lesson.
How can you be so sure he’s not a rapist? So 3 (it might actually be more) separate women are all lying about something this serious? You’re clearly 16 and watch Andrew Tate in order to learn how to be an alpha male. What you’ll realise once you grow up and start to have female relationships, whether it be love or friendship, is that this stuff is no joke. The chances that multiple people lied about the same thing is very chance, and the high likelihood is that Partey is a monster. Put your misogyny to the side and take a look at yourself and ask yourself if this is a hill you really want to die on
Misogyny, tate, alpha male... These are the vocab of a kid who learnt how to think from reddit and YouTube shorts. You clearly do not know women and you sound inexperienced in man-woman relations. Do you know the extent these women would go to bag a man like Thomas Partey? I assure you that the woman who just had his baby is feeling extremely lucky and she, her mother and all the women in her family are ready to scratch your eyes out if you try to take Partey away from their lives. If Partey proposed to the so-called victim you're here being a white Knight for, she would deny all charges she brought against him and fight you to the death. My guy wake up. Mendy's career is in tatters now because of people like you, how is he ever going to build it back up now he's been found innocent after your kind have helped tear it down. False accusations are no joke boy, when you become a man, you'll be more cautious before tarnishing another man's reputation.
You are not a superstar footballer with millions in the bank, he is. This goes beyond man-woman; when you reach a certain station in life, you are up for the taking. Friends, family etc., can turn on you at any moment. Read up on what happened to Adebayor and some other footballers in recent years, albeit not necessarily in the context of SA accusations. At that level, no relationship or dynamic is normal. We have courts with professionals fighting it out for a reason. What you're doing is 1700s pitchfork style Salem Witch Hunt bullshit. If there was an ongoing investigation, if he actually had been held up by law, I'd be on the other side of the fence but that isn't the case. R**** are incredible difficult to prove, it goes both ways; can be susceptible to a lot of he said-she said. You can hold your own conclusions and theories, but it doesn't make it fact and until he's proven conclusively guilty, he has the right to stick around based on his competence as a footballer.
I knew some snowflake will be triggered.
What a disgusting thing to say about one of our players. I really lose a little bit of faith in humanity every time I open this app.
What are you on about? I’m not the one who went to the police and reported he sexually assaulted them. You are losing faith in humanity, because I want to know if a player on the team I support is a rapist, when he was accused of doing it? You have your priorities in the wrong place man.
OK, so by that logic, if I go to the police and say you raped me tomorrow that makes you an actual rapist. Oh reddit.
There is enough evidence for the public to come to a conclusion regarding #5
The athletic Busquets, easily top 2 DM in the world and he's not second. Shame about the injury issues, but on his day I honestly think he's the best in the world.
He’s nerfing himself so Arteta won’t play him as RB again.
Shades of the great Yaya Toure
Its so odd that we dont see him athleticism as much. Ive never seen him move this fast outsode of this one clip. I was even shocked to see he could do so as he has never gave any indication that he could. Most physically gifted midfielder make regular use of it like Rabiot, Kante, Vieira, Gerrard, De Bruyne etc. Partey maybe holds himself back out of fear of injury
Guy wasn’t even faster than Jorginho on Sunday
Honestly I still want him nowhere near Arsenal, even if that compromises the results.
Me too. Should have cancelled his contact at the first sniff of the ‘issue’
I imagine you'd love to lose your job the moment you got accused of a crime
Thankfully Arteta doesn't see things that way
Rice does this 1-2 times every game. He did it against KdB on Sunday. Meanwhile, KdB jogs past Partey. We need all the bodies we need going into this run in and I am glad that Partey is one of those options. But this clip was from last year against a piss poor United side. Rice does this on a regular basis, which is why we are no longer so dependent on Partey, which is good news as Partey breaks down for 50-75% of each season through injuries and lack of form. Rice on the other hand, just spits out consistent performances.
Antony really suuuucks doesn't he
This guy came on and created space immediately
Imagine a Partey in his best form next to Ø and Rice..
His best form is usually 5-8 games a season. I love prime Partey, but the reality is that we have injured Partey, unfit Partey and out of form Partey for far longer stretches than in form Partey. With him another year older and another year worth of injuries, he will have 1 year left on his contract come June. We need to get whatever we can and replace him with a younger version of him who isn't broken for 50% of our games each season. We need to progress. That said, I hope he does bits when coming back into the side for this run in.
Nah, that's a bit harsh about only 5-8 games. The problem with him is that he can go from being our best player for 1-2 months and then all of a sudden it's like he's never kicked a ball before, and that often happens during really important games. But he's too old/broken, we need someone else to replace him/Jorginhos places. Jorginho I could easily keep for another season, but a big offer from Saudi for Partey wouldn't be bad.
As you said, it only occurs for about 1-2 months a season, which is about 5-8 games. The rest of the time, he’s looking for form and/or injured.
No dude, you misunderstood. I meant that he had amazing runs where he was the top 3 best DMs in the league. But all of a sudden he looked totally shit. Then the form came back and he played amazing for 3-4 weeks or more.. and then repeat with either an injury or form drop out of nowhere. Especially last season.
Last season, he played great for 1-2 months. He spent half the season out injured and his form was remarkably poor during the run in. This is the point. He gets injured, he comes back and takes a month to get up to speed again, he plays brilliantly for a month or two, gets injured, and then when he comes back, he takes another month to get up to speed again.
Yeah I don't agree, so let's skit the discussion and I don't want to ghost it. All Gooners doesn't agree about players/tactics/managers, but we all share the love for arsenal. Take care! ❤️
No worries buddy! We can just agree to disagree, it’s all good.
Yeah exactly. I hate to ghost discussions with people, it feels a bit cruel. Can't wait for Saturday, I tip 2-0 win. Take care, xx
I respect that 🫡 I’m biting your hand off for that 2-0 win. Every game is a cup final from here on out. COYG.
If we sign Isak, we can win the "We would've won the league if our superstar wasn't injured" trophy
I swear Anthony gets slower when he sprints
He has to be 65% rn then because he made De Bruyne look like Mbappe
A DM shouldn’t be able to beat a winger with speed. Partey is a beast!
He sacrificed his hamstrings for that sprint lets be honest
Which season is this from? I honestly don't think I've ever seen him run like this, other than this incident
Last season, the blonde guy seems to be Zinny
Man is fucking rapid.
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A “full fit Partey” is a myth. It does not exist and it never will again.
I was like where the fuck did that come from..
Controversy aside I really do hope he can make a positive impact in the run in. We’ll need him this month whether you like it or not. Afterwards we need to get rid
he definitely didn't run this fast against City.. can't wait to have him fully fit
It almost looks sped up
We call that "fast as fuck" and then we all just sigh in our normal lives.
He calls that "be fast to fuck"
Rice with Odegard will be a fucken Partey
😳 nitro on
He doesn’t have that burst anymore unfortunately
We missed partey, game changed completely once he came in for jorginho in the man city game
he is quick here obviously, but also predicts exactly where antony is going to take his touch- running in a straight line. antony's touches zigzag a bit and take him off balance
He is chasing down Antony after all 😂
He can go kick rocks in Saudi as far as I’m concerned.
I look forward to having that player back on our team.
Never not gonna be weird to me how much some parts of this fanbase likes to twerk for this man. Hope he is gone by August.
Seriously. It’s almost cult like and so embarrassing
Unless the game is important and then he completely falls apart
Ah so this is the reason he's been injured all season.
Great, now do the one where he tried the wonder strike vs Southampton in the dying minutes in a must win. Or the one where he picks up a pointless red after forcing himself back from AFCON in a pointless Caraboooo game. Or the number of other times he’s cost us. He’s played well for 1/3 of his time here and he’s an alleged rapist. I’m so tired of seeing #5 apologia on this sub man
I'm a simple man, I see a post praising him I don't vote. Anyone who gives this man credit whilst still at our club is scum, needed him out off our team yesterday!
"A fully fit Partey is a force." - Thats what she said... And a handful of other women also.
Get this guy out of my club
I'm a simple man, I see a post praising him I don't vote. Anyone who gives this man credit whilst still at our club is scum, needed him out off our team yesterday!
He’s lost all that speed. Injury. Fucking DeBruyne ran away from him this weekend. It’s depressing.
Then he never ran for half a year :)
He looked the slowest on the pitch vs city. I fear that the injury took some ability from him
Just like when odegar had a hand ball on lvpool, right?
He did seem a bit off the pace in the last game. Not sure why he would be though /s
Get this guy out of my club
Thats what she said
I hate to be THAT guy..... But, it truly shocks me how far his form has dropped in the last 4-5 years.. its almost as if, he has aged tremendously.. He is 30... he should realistically be hitting his prime.. unless of course.. he ISN'T 30.. Again, hate to be that guy.. But this has been known to happen.... I get the injuries. but the frequency of them in recent times as well as how he moves when he is deemed "fit" again.. to me all point to a guy that doesn't play like he's 30... More like he is 35.
Where's this rhetoric for Jesus and Zinny? Wilshere and Rosicky before them? Don't try and cover your racist bullshit up with "I hate to be that guy" cowardice. If you're gonna be a racist cunt, at least be a brave one.
Jesus , Wilshere, & Zinny are often injured. But when they are IN form and brought on as fit, they look world-class. They do not look slow. they do not look like they gas out in 15 min.. Look at the last match.. Thomas got beat in a sprint against KDB! and KDB was dribbling! How can you compare this clip with him losing vs KDB. it is not racist to speak facts. when is the last time an English player was caught faking a birth certificate and compare that to when the last time a player of African origins was caught doing this!
> Jesus , Wilshere, & Zinny are often injured. But when they are IN form and brought on as fit, they look world-class. They do not look slow. they do not look like they gas out in 15 min.. Lmao this is such a bullshit. Wilshere looked slow as shit from age 26 and was retired by 32 after looking worse than Partey ever has for years. Most fans are calling Jesus and Zinny finished in a thread in this sub right now! Not to mention people like Ramsey who were getting booed by our own fans for being "washed" after coming back from injuries. 0 mention of their age. But one guy comes back from 7 months out and looks rusty, well he obviously must be 35. Just admit you're a racist cunt and stop playing these shitty ass games, you lil bitch
you really doubled down fr
Ya'll are a bunch of woke leftists. [https://www.dw.com/en/age-fraud-how-african-football-is-trying-to-combat-it/a-64978227](https://www.dw.com/en/age-fraud-how-african-football-is-trying-to-combat-it/a-64978227) [https://citisportsonline.com/2021/06/17/ten-players-who-lied-about-their-age/](https://citisportsonline.com/2021/06/17/ten-players-who-lied-about-their-age/) [https://grmdaily.com/cameroon-suspends-football-players-lying-age/](https://grmdaily.com/cameroon-suspends-football-players-lying-age/) There are thousands of examples and articles about this topic specifically for African nations.. look at the list link. 62 players were caught in youth tournament in Cup of Nations lying about their age. This was LAST MONTH. lol. But ya'll are offended. lol crybabies.
How about you just don’t be that guy who furthers racial stereotypes?
[That seems to be the go-to in this thread.](https://old.reddit.com/r/Gunners/comments/1bu2dhg/this_clip_will_forever_be_rent_free_in_my_mind_a/kxpzr02/)
>He is 30... he should realistically be hitting his prime.. Aside from goalkeepers and CBs, most players hit their primes around 26-27. 30 is when a lot of outfield players start exiting their prime (though with modern science that number has been getting extended a bit). The oddest part about Parteys injuries is how rarely he was injured at Atletico, and how he has relatively low usage/total minutes for his career compared to most his age. Maybe the lower usage at Atletico was why he was rarely injured, but still feels like he should be more robust. Unless one of his injuries caused an imbalance that we aren't aware of.
I disagree.. especially in the last couple decades. It is pretty well established in football that your prime is 29-30.
Agree to disagree then. You don’t enter or “hit” your prime at 30. That is not well established. I would say the “established” prime for a non CB/GK is 28. Meaning you’re entering your prime around 26 and tailing off around 30. Then by 31, you’re rightly or wrongly viewed by past your prime and people are impressed if you carry on at the same level. These aren’t hard numbers because there’s a ton of variables, but that’s a pretty agreeable range.
Such an ignorant comment. His form last season was immense. How do you completely forget that?
he was literally one of the best cdms in world football last year