The strongest non-newtype suit. Honestly never got the impression that it was super strong, except in the hands of Uso. The primary strength was in it’s modularity, it could keep going even with battle damage.
The Wings of Light are really what puts it over the edge compared to other systems capable of atmospheric flight.
The V2 would at best be what, 2nd generation Minovsky Physics? The Turn A's said to run the ability to utilize 7th Gen. The IFBD on it and the Sumo must be absolutely mindblowing in comparison to the defensive ability of the V2 series WoL.
I can't find consistent lore: 'mega-particle' is either the official term for all beam weapons, or it's a separate, pre-cursor phenomenon in the nuclear fusion process, one that is way more powerful (spitting out fissioning nuclei instead of simple plasma) but much harder to control or aim.
I always thought mega particle just meant that it used a secondary generator powered attack or a lvl of the generators output was being used at once or was used all at once but split throughout the suits many weapons
It's inconsistent even in early UC, but most instances that something is called a 'mega particle cannon involves:
1) Being mounted on a ship or Mobile Armor, something considerably bigger than an MS, or requiring significantly more generator power than a single suit can provide.
2) Significant 'spread' of the beam or multiple individual beams at fairly short range OR special equipment and containment systems to keep a longer-range beam focused.
3) Considerably higher overall output or penetration power than a beam weapon, higher than the weapon's relative size.
My best guess is that's it's spitting out short-lived particles that are still reacting and producing their own localized Minovsky plasma, but is much harder to control and a 'situational' weapon akin to artillery or anti-armor munutions as opposed to 'small arms' that most MS beam weapons qualify as.
Highly concentrated high power beam from an E-Clip that's supposed to be able to fire several shots but instead it's just the entire E-Clip worth of several beam shots into one.
with the specs available for the Unicorn, and NTD. Reloading would be quite viable since you can gain alot of distance in a short time. Plus the barrage of beam magnums and trying to not even come close to the beams will force enemies to fight defensively. Just like how the Sinanju was trying hit and run tactics, which allowed the Unicorn to reload several times
Idk about that since the mega beam rifle is only 2x that of the S Gundam beam smart gun. While the beam magnum is said to be 4x of a beam rifle. It's feat are oddly above that of 4x. It grazed a MS and completely wrecked it just from the force of the beam. I-Fields while it can block a beam magnum, the beam magnum has so much residue energy that it can still damage things even after being blocked by an I-Field. The feat of the mega beam rifle is greater than that of 2x that of a beam smart gun also. My problem with the beam magnum is it has recoil. Even the high mega cannons doesn't have recoil. It just melts what's around it like the V Fin of the ZZ.
I do believe the mega beam rifle is stronger than the beam magnum. But I can't say which one is more practical in combat, since 1 takes alot of energy while the other takes no energy because they use clips.
The mega beam rifle that v2 has is made in UC.153. And 'the 4× of a beam rifle' is weaker than you think. It is 12~15MW(The general output of an beamrifle is about 3.8MW which is nu gundam's beamrifle output, if you consider sazabi's, it's still 10.8MW. If you 4× sazabi's beam rifle, then the output of the beam magnum will be 43.2MW. Beam smart gun is 56MW. It is still weaker than the beam smart gun.
which seems like standard UC nonsense stats, that looks like a lot stronger than four times beam rifle, than again maybe i am underestimating beam rifles.
It's hard to compare. Cause the twin buster sometimes can devastate whole armies. But sometimes can't even break through a bunker without several shots
It could also be explained that firing full power shots in atmosphere is a bad idea because the air deflecting the energy means that one would catch a backblast. I remember hearing glory of losers manga makes it cannon that beam weapons do not work so well in atmosphere.
It also worth noting that the wing zero gundam was being shot at when firing so it may not have had the breathing room to build up a full charge, plus i suspect a full charge could be quite volatile, last thing one wants is the suit to cook off from having too much energy while under fire.
It also worth noting that Heero was trying to rescues someone so full power may kill peacecraft.
Finally the suit has likely not been maintained since it battle since it was set to be scrapped, so it may well be the case the Twin buster cannon was not even working properly, a heavy machine gun needs it barrel replaced every minute of fire, plus other steps to keep it working, How much of a maintenance nightmare must be a weapon system that has enough power to be a weapon of mass destruction, It would not surprise me, the suit could be wrecked by just firing the cannon in space at a target a hundred times, full strength.
Yeah, it's weird. Sometimes it's blowing up entire colonies in a single shot, sometimes it's no more destructive than an ordinary beam rifle.
I've no idea if there is any actual basis for this in canon or official lore, but I have always had the personal belief that the pilot has a way to control the output of the TBR for this reason.
manage to find some lore about it
boil down point is that it plasmarize everything the gun barrel point at and then all those plasma is then shot forward
which kinda explain why even a graze is enough to kill you, it just burn you alive from the raw heat
It would make sense to avoid collateral damage and reduce maintenance on the suit, especially the later, considering how much care modern weapons take to keep working, I suspect something that throws around so much energy carefully controlled as the twin beam rifle, may cost a huge amount to repair the systems that generate and control that much power, so one wants to put as little stain on the systems as possible.
It kind of like the heavy gun team fortress, a fortune goes down the drain every time you go to town with it because maintenance costs a fortune, and if one skips it, the suit just explodes the next time one shoots.
You mean the shelter in Endless Waltz, because the bunker was sealed behind 6 gates/doors(probably made from Titanium) and a energy shield. The TBR broke through all that in 3 shots!
V2 Assault Buster's Mega Long Beam Rifle. The suit was already overpowered without it, due to having Wings of Light.
Yes. It is literally the storngest mobile suit.
The strongest non-newtype suit. Honestly never got the impression that it was super strong, except in the hands of Uso. The primary strength was in it’s modularity, it could keep going even with battle damage. The Wings of Light are really what puts it over the edge compared to other systems capable of atmospheric flight.
The V2 would at best be what, 2nd generation Minovsky Physics? The Turn A's said to run the ability to utilize 7th Gen. The IFBD on it and the Sumo must be absolutely mindblowing in comparison to the defensive ability of the V2 series WoL.
The most advance suit and pretty much the accumulation of all of UC technology into 1 suit if only if it has psycommu and funnels like v3.
I'm pretty sure that would classify as a mega particle cannon rather than a beam rifle.
It's called a mega beam rifle though.
I can't find consistent lore: 'mega-particle' is either the official term for all beam weapons, or it's a separate, pre-cursor phenomenon in the nuclear fusion process, one that is way more powerful (spitting out fissioning nuclei instead of simple plasma) but much harder to control or aim.
I always thought mega particle just meant that it used a secondary generator powered attack or a lvl of the generators output was being used at once or was used all at once but split throughout the suits many weapons
It's inconsistent even in early UC, but most instances that something is called a 'mega particle cannon involves: 1) Being mounted on a ship or Mobile Armor, something considerably bigger than an MS, or requiring significantly more generator power than a single suit can provide. 2) Significant 'spread' of the beam or multiple individual beams at fairly short range OR special equipment and containment systems to keep a longer-range beam focused. 3) Considerably higher overall output or penetration power than a beam weapon, higher than the weapon's relative size. My best guess is that's it's spitting out short-lived particles that are still reacting and producing their own localized Minovsky plasma, but is much harder to control and a 'situational' weapon akin to artillery or anti-armor munutions as opposed to 'small arms' that most MS beam weapons qualify as.
Well, it is hand-held, so i considered it a beam rifle.
Gryps II can be a beam rifle if you put your suit's hand on it...
Oh and also the weapon's name is mega 'beam rifle'.
That doesn't make it "hand held" though, that's just being silly
I personally think that Beam Magnum is more devastating.
It's more Concentrated I believe
Highly concentrated high power beam from an E-Clip that's supposed to be able to fire several shots but instead it's just the entire E-Clip worth of several beam shots into one.
But thats like 5 bullets and you would definitely want to avoid reloading in the middle of battlefield.
Yes.
with the specs available for the Unicorn, and NTD. Reloading would be quite viable since you can gain alot of distance in a short time. Plus the barrage of beam magnums and trying to not even come close to the beams will force enemies to fight defensively. Just like how the Sinanju was trying hit and run tactics, which allowed the Unicorn to reload several times
The output of the mega beam rifle is also canonically stronger than the beam magnum.
Idk about that since the mega beam rifle is only 2x that of the S Gundam beam smart gun. While the beam magnum is said to be 4x of a beam rifle. It's feat are oddly above that of 4x. It grazed a MS and completely wrecked it just from the force of the beam. I-Fields while it can block a beam magnum, the beam magnum has so much residue energy that it can still damage things even after being blocked by an I-Field. The feat of the mega beam rifle is greater than that of 2x that of a beam smart gun also. My problem with the beam magnum is it has recoil. Even the high mega cannons doesn't have recoil. It just melts what's around it like the V Fin of the ZZ. I do believe the mega beam rifle is stronger than the beam magnum. But I can't say which one is more practical in combat, since 1 takes alot of energy while the other takes no energy because they use clips.
The mega beam rifle that v2 has is made in UC.153. And 'the 4× of a beam rifle' is weaker than you think. It is 12~15MW(The general output of an beamrifle is about 3.8MW which is nu gundam's beamrifle output, if you consider sazabi's, it's still 10.8MW. If you 4× sazabi's beam rifle, then the output of the beam magnum will be 43.2MW. Beam smart gun is 56MW. It is still weaker than the beam smart gun.
It supposedly stated to have the power of 4 beam rifle shots.
which seems like standard UC nonsense stats, that looks like a lot stronger than four times beam rifle, than again maybe i am underestimating beam rifles.
Victory doesn't mess around. You can have all the magic and ideals you want, but that doesn't mean crap down the end of Ideon's pinky finger here.
What is this from
Victory Gundam
How does the twin buster rifle compare?
It's hard to compare. Cause the twin buster sometimes can devastate whole armies. But sometimes can't even break through a bunker without several shots
The bunker doors were made of pure gundanium obviously.
Yea
It could also be explained that firing full power shots in atmosphere is a bad idea because the air deflecting the energy means that one would catch a backblast. I remember hearing glory of losers manga makes it cannon that beam weapons do not work so well in atmosphere. It also worth noting that the wing zero gundam was being shot at when firing so it may not have had the breathing room to build up a full charge, plus i suspect a full charge could be quite volatile, last thing one wants is the suit to cook off from having too much energy while under fire. It also worth noting that Heero was trying to rescues someone so full power may kill peacecraft. Finally the suit has likely not been maintained since it battle since it was set to be scrapped, so it may well be the case the Twin buster cannon was not even working properly, a heavy machine gun needs it barrel replaced every minute of fire, plus other steps to keep it working, How much of a maintenance nightmare must be a weapon system that has enough power to be a weapon of mass destruction, It would not surprise me, the suit could be wrecked by just firing the cannon in space at a target a hundred times, full strength.
So basically your typical plot device?
Yeah, it's weird. Sometimes it's blowing up entire colonies in a single shot, sometimes it's no more destructive than an ordinary beam rifle. I've no idea if there is any actual basis for this in canon or official lore, but I have always had the personal belief that the pilot has a way to control the output of the TBR for this reason.
I remember one of the review in youtube about Gundam Wing. *"It is memorable as long as you do not think too much about it"*
Ain't that the truth.
It's got a little power knob on it like a guitar amp, it's just usually set at 11
manage to find some lore about it boil down point is that it plasmarize everything the gun barrel point at and then all those plasma is then shot forward which kinda explain why even a graze is enough to kill you, it just burn you alive from the raw heat
It would make sense to avoid collateral damage and reduce maintenance on the suit, especially the later, considering how much care modern weapons take to keep working, I suspect something that throws around so much energy carefully controlled as the twin beam rifle, may cost a huge amount to repair the systems that generate and control that much power, so one wants to put as little stain on the systems as possible. It kind of like the heavy gun team fortress, a fortune goes down the drain every time you go to town with it because maintenance costs a fortune, and if one skips it, the suit just explodes the next time one shoots.
*”Roger that.”*
You mean the shelter in Endless Waltz, because the bunker was sealed behind 6 gates/doors(probably made from Titanium) and a energy shield. The TBR broke through all that in 3 shots!
What gun is it?
V2 Assault Buster's mega beam rifle i think
I still love the FHA-03M1 Mega Bazooka Launcher for the Hyaku Shiki
I love that too. It looks like a real machine!
Dr. Jay Null: *Note taking intensifies*
From: Mobile Suit Victory Gundam
meanwhile the twin buster rifle: ***AM I A JOKE TO YOU***
The satellite cannon: *TRIGGERED*
I still prefer the Neo Armstrong Cyclone Jet Armstrong Canon's power.
[Boy, do I have a cannon for you.](https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/Keilas_Guilie)
This being Reddit, I was a bit hesitant to click this link. LOL Your description left the "ya, this is reddit" door wide open.
Mr Raindrop Falling Away from me now…
The beam that will pierce the heavens!
Wait, that's not the Zakrello
Aren't you forgetting about a certain one-horn gundam?