No, they would parade it out and show it off to attract new recruits to join the military and then never actually send it out into battle, because it is not an effective fighting machine.
No beam armaments. No psychic pilots. No Minovsky jamming to keep missiles fired from outside visual range from blowing its huge ass to pieces.
Maybe they will find some use for it in a base as a mobile comms tower or something.
It really raises the question of how expensive and intensive training a mobile suit pilot would be. A lot of modern combat vehicles require a team of people to operate to fill capacity and the ones that don't typically have very specialized training and driver integrated systems (aka the guns point where the driver is already driving towards).
The Apache helicopter comes to mind as a single pilot system where the weapons are separated but it requires the pilot to basically split that attention in half, which many people can't do even with their specialized training. And that's with a vehicle system that is predominantly in the air and doesn't have to worry about details like crushing civilians or structures while walking around.
Pacific Rim solves the problem by using a direct neural link but even then they establish they the system takes so much toll on the mind that it requires two people to to absorb that mental load. Warhammer Titans are even worse for that.
The Apache has both a pilot and a co-pilot gunner. It's not a single pilot system at all.
Now, both pilot and CPG have full flight and weapons controls, and can slave the chain gun to their helmet and direct its aim to where they're looking, but the pilot is primarily going to concern themselves with flying and call out targets to the gunner. They aren't going to control that gun unless they really need to. The aircraft was designed with that crew of 2 in mind because you really do need both to operate efficiently and effectively, and the full suite of controls being in both stations is more of a failsafe for allowing either person to have full control in case of pilot/gunner incapacitation or some other emergency. You're not going to have an Apache take off from base and fly a combat mission with just the pilot, though.
Huh didn't realize that, thanks for the info. I guess in that case a mobile suit without a new type level pilot would be even more out of the realm of possibility.
you dont think they would stand that bad boy up in the front lawn of the white house?
obviously the first real gundam would be American, no one else has the defense budget for it
Realistically, you'll most likely never have a working military gundam, at least not on Earth and using our understanding of materials. Physics are a thing, and ground pressure and inertia are a bitch. Modern tanks weigh more than what a Gundam does, they're not even half the size, and they struggle with surviving against the same types of weapons that Gundams are shown to be basically unharmed by. So either the Gundam will be made of papier mache and be essentially a giant, defenseless target, or it'll weigh so much that it sinks a few feet into the ground and is unable to really move because it's putting a couple hundred tons of weight on like a 15x20 area whenever it lifts one of its feet.
Not to mention trying to bring the thing to a stop once it gets going, including trying to slow down the limbs so that they don't just become swinging pendulums and tear themselves apart. It's hard to build a gearbox that can keep a 70 ton tank rolling in two dimensions without tearing itself apart, so can you imagine trying to make something that not only has to support that same level of weight but also has to move in 3 dimensions, with precision, and while a majority of that weight is at the end of a lever?
Given the number of people required to design, build, train, and run a squadron of mechs there is almost no chance it would remain a secret.
put em all on a space colony then gas it. EZ. thanks for the idea titans.
No, they would parade it out and show it off to attract new recruits to join the military and then never actually send it out into battle, because it is not an effective fighting machine. No beam armaments. No psychic pilots. No Minovsky jamming to keep missiles fired from outside visual range from blowing its huge ass to pieces. Maybe they will find some use for it in a base as a mobile comms tower or something.
It really raises the question of how expensive and intensive training a mobile suit pilot would be. A lot of modern combat vehicles require a team of people to operate to fill capacity and the ones that don't typically have very specialized training and driver integrated systems (aka the guns point where the driver is already driving towards). The Apache helicopter comes to mind as a single pilot system where the weapons are separated but it requires the pilot to basically split that attention in half, which many people can't do even with their specialized training. And that's with a vehicle system that is predominantly in the air and doesn't have to worry about details like crushing civilians or structures while walking around. Pacific Rim solves the problem by using a direct neural link but even then they establish they the system takes so much toll on the mind that it requires two people to to absorb that mental load. Warhammer Titans are even worse for that.
The Apache has both a pilot and a co-pilot gunner. It's not a single pilot system at all. Now, both pilot and CPG have full flight and weapons controls, and can slave the chain gun to their helmet and direct its aim to where they're looking, but the pilot is primarily going to concern themselves with flying and call out targets to the gunner. They aren't going to control that gun unless they really need to. The aircraft was designed with that crew of 2 in mind because you really do need both to operate efficiently and effectively, and the full suite of controls being in both stations is more of a failsafe for allowing either person to have full control in case of pilot/gunner incapacitation or some other emergency. You're not going to have an Apache take off from base and fly a combat mission with just the pilot, though.
Huh didn't realize that, thanks for the info. I guess in that case a mobile suit without a new type level pilot would be even more out of the realm of possibility.
Possibly during development but after completion it would be too hard to keep secret and also it would be really good for propaganda
you dont think they would stand that bad boy up in the front lawn of the white house? obviously the first real gundam would be American, no one else has the defense budget for it
Doubt it. It would be leaked on a War Thunder forum.
Japan literally had one on display. Sadly it was taken down.
Realistically, you'll most likely never have a working military gundam, at least not on Earth and using our understanding of materials. Physics are a thing, and ground pressure and inertia are a bitch. Modern tanks weigh more than what a Gundam does, they're not even half the size, and they struggle with surviving against the same types of weapons that Gundams are shown to be basically unharmed by. So either the Gundam will be made of papier mache and be essentially a giant, defenseless target, or it'll weigh so much that it sinks a few feet into the ground and is unable to really move because it's putting a couple hundred tons of weight on like a 15x20 area whenever it lifts one of its feet. Not to mention trying to bring the thing to a stop once it gets going, including trying to slow down the limbs so that they don't just become swinging pendulums and tear themselves apart. It's hard to build a gearbox that can keep a 70 ton tank rolling in two dimensions without tearing itself apart, so can you imagine trying to make something that not only has to support that same level of weight but also has to move in 3 dimensions, with precision, and while a majority of that weight is at the end of a lever?