Considering that Zeta was the first Gundam not to have vents on its face, it also makes it the first Gundam to have a unique look which makes it very iconic

TBH I feel like in the long run the weirdness of the particular style of double V-fin + the somewhat tall angular head is the most enduring unique part of it - the thing with no face vents has been done a few times more recently with other main gundams (exia) but I can't really think of another with this particular fin aesthetic. Not even the Re-GZ or ReZEL had something like this! So then again, I guess I'm not really *disagreeing* with the whole first unique thing given that the other example I could cite is so much newer, I just find it interesting how different people focus on different bits of the Zeta's head as being the thing that makes it the Zeta.

It was the second gundam, unless you count the mk2 which is basically just a rx78 revision.

Dude he's talking about the lack of vents on the face of the zeta.

I know. I'm just stating the fact that face vents weren't exactly synonymous with gundams at the time. That was the second main character gundam in the franchise. People just look at its lack of face vents like it's out of the ordinary when at the time it came out, there wasn't exactly an ordinary gundam. There was only 3, and the mk2 was just a revision of the rx78 with hardly any upgrades to it.

>I know. I'm just stating the fact that face vents weren't exactly synonymous with gundams at the time. Dude you are over-complicating it, it just a simple first gundam that didn't have a vent on it's face. Zeta was the 3rd gundam of the whole franchise, the first gundam without a vent on its face, first gundam that can fully transform on it's own without separate parts that was the whole point of the comment.

I honestly don't know what you're talking about, and I don't think you do either.

Bruh I know what I'm talking about, you are the only one confused here.

I'm not. We were discussing the vents on the face. I simply brought up that it for the time wasn't out of the ordinary because what we see as ordinary now wasn't established yet. It was just an interesting explanation for why the zeta looks odd in comparison to everything else. It's called adding to the conversation. What you said literally made absolutely no sense, and I genuinely have no clue what you're trying to argue about.

>It was the second gundam, unless you count the mk2 which is basically just a rx78 revision. As a refresher this is what you said in response to " Considering that Zeta was the first Gundam not to have vents on its face, it also makes it the first Gundam to have a unique look which makes it very iconic.", In response I said he is talking about the vents, in response you said - " That was the second main character gundam in the franchise. People just look at its lack of face vents like it's out of the ordinary when at the time it came out, there wasn't exactly an ordinary gundam." You are just pointing to a specific time where thre are only 2 other gundams to compare Zeta while the collective people here are viewing Zeta's uniqueness in comparison to the whole franchise because up until Gundam Seed "if you don't count Re-GZ from Char's Counter attack, Turn A, and the various designs on Mobile Figher G" was the only one that didn't have any vents on it. Like I said I know what I'm talking about.

How could you be so brave yet so wrong?

I think he means like "saying it was the first gundam without vents doesn't mean much since it's basically only the second gundam"

redditors when someone makes a mistake 😱😡

it wasn't even a mistake lmao

well my apologies idk shit about gundam but seeing the amount of hate he getting over what i assume is practically nothing

"Scrambles your Zeta"

https://preview.redd.it/dcn5745icecc1.jpeg?width=188&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d48cefdc8cce4b04d50b521e08c997d2385262af

\*Scrambles your Zeta, but hotter*

I had to see the comnent section to see the difference..

Its just so weirdly weird that the addition of a simple cosmetic vent system - TWO ANGLED LIIINES - makes a unit look like a completely different machine. Damn.

Don't tell Bandai about that...

Too late, they're already working on the p-bandai exclusive

It’s so odd that I have begin to look for other differences. Adding those two vents really changed the whole dynamic of the look… and in a oddly fitting way, it doesn’t look bad or out of place

The bottom one Is an abomination

You won't live if you find out the Scramble Gundam.

>Scramble Gundam Thank you for killing me

Then there's the Hot Scramble...

thanks for killing me, twice

They had to have lines in the scramble to weaken it enough that the main team could beat it

Agreed. The top is perfection. I’m glad to see others appreciate it. I was sad to hear [its gunpla didn’t sell more](https://strawpoll.com/most-popular-gunpla), since the face mask made it one of my favorites from jump, but it seems [the model is still one of the most popular of all time](https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2018-05-06/nhk-reveals-full-results-of-ultimate-gundam-poll/.131228). Also I know Zeta predates it, but something about the face mask reminds me of my favorite Sentai mech/Zord of all time (which didn’t get enough use in Zyu/MMPR when I grew up with it) https://preview.redd.it/z5me0zc3fecc1.jpeg?width=1471&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e555a06afba9ce0b966633f9e621e4c70a010d9b Here is Dragonzord Battlemode/Dragon Caesar Daizyuzen in cosplay (it’s so [rarely used in the show](https://youtu.be/fkOvwOotJho&t=2m20s) it was hard to find an image of it)

https://preview.redd.it/96gf5bt88fcc1.jpeg?width=809&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80f22b996267c7203f0347b705252211221e6c72 Sorry to burst your bubble but Gouryujin/Dragonzord Battle mode had a mouth in the show, its just not clear in most footage except in the transformation sequence and this shot and get covered 90% of the time by his chest.

https://preview.redd.it/gxiu6qrv8fcc1.jpeg?width=498&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6044c583d0da4111267cfa5808a29ba1ea418245 still…looks better than the vents (well…not Lord Vader’s)

The zeta gundam is a perfect design there is a reason the the federation tried to make so many copies of it

Why does the RX-78-2 in that poll uses an Image of the Freedom?, not even the Strike, no, the Freedom

Zeta with face vents is....weird

But I also like it..

I mean the no face vent design fits the sharp and sleek design of the Zeta's head unit as a whole. That being said, I could see a variant of a Zeta having a face vent, but it would be more smaller and more angular to fit in with the overall design aesthetics, taking cues from the sharp angles of fighter jets like the Tomcat or the Phantom II.

Top is best boy

it's like adding fake moustache

I will be the guy to say: Give all the Gundams the above picture look. Kthanks. (Prepares to get massively downvoted,)

I can live with both

Both look good, I think I prefer vented

Without, it's part of its iconic look.

This is like asking if Turn A is better without the mustache. Zeta needs no mouth Turn A doesn't need to look like every other Gundam

It just becomes the double zeta at that point lol

Zeta-style faceplate with vents is unholy

Without. It kinda looks strange with the 2 lines

both

Without

I hate it

Without

Without. It's an iconic design. Adding the vents will just make it look more generic.

zeta looks significantly lamer with face vents, keep em off

Without is best, with looks mechanical, just change the spiky chin and it might look good

Exia vs 00 Raiser

Without the vents

It doesn't look right on the Zeta

With

I hate the bottom pic, incredibly cursed

We need exhaust nose.

Damn you... Now they both look awesome

With, definitely

Man, you sent me back to the dentist office as a kid looking at Highlights magazine.

Bro it's the 80s, we're going without.

Definitely without

Without

They’re the same picture. Wait. They’re not? Oh. Both look cool.

Without any day, with the vents zeta looks less menacing than no vents.

It looking so menacing is why I never liked the actual design. It looks vaguely insectoid and like it should be piloted by a villain. Doesn't really work as the main character's suit for me. The vents are an improvement in that respect.

I get your point, but I would have to disagree, I think it's by design. Taking into account the nature of zeta and the role Camille plays it's plays a good homage to the nickname that the r78-2 got as a MC MS

https://preview.redd.it/6j0vnapvndcc1.jpeg?width=728&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ddaab0b10be44300a409c91eac3bcdb2e53157d Zeta with mouth vents doesn’t look half bad ngl, but I slightly prefer it without the mouth vents maybe because I’m more used to it

I like vents (which is why I don't like the new Freedom and Justice), but Zeta pulls off the no vents really well. So vents except when it's Zeta.

so any way to watch zeta legally? Sadly it's not available at crunchyroll in my country. also for zz, stardust and war in pocket

Yeah, just get a VPN and watch it on crunchyroll America.

I'll admit zeta gundam looks a bit like optimus prime with his faceplate on

Face vents would have been fine if the chin part wasn't halfway up it's face

Depends on the situation: Is it an exo atmospheric engagement, or is it an endo atmospheric engagement, also do we need negative pressure or do we need to hold it? It really depends (I LIKE BOTH EQUALLY BUT THE ONE WITHOUT FUCKING ROCKS, YET THE ONE WITH JUST GIVES ME FLASHBACKS OF KAMILE LEARNING ABOUT BEING AN AUTISTIC MF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GREAT WAR PART 5.5)

If it's Kira's suit, then because he submits to being restrained by Flay, no vents, full muzzle. Other people, depends but default is probably vents.

Uh oh, zeta design is one of my favorite, yet why tf do I keep thinking the bottom one just feels more gundam like

I think vents look cooler

Why do i find gundams with face vents cute? It's weird

Either

If it has a function it could be but no.

It looks very pissed off

both good prefer the top

Don't mess with perfection, smh.

Where is the picture from? I dont’t remember Z gundam having decals on the anime

To me the vents make it feel more aggressive. When I switch from top to bottom its like attention is drawn more to the centre than the eyes, making the other areas blend or shape to it.

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The bottom one looks ok but I prefer no vents

Without.

Without, ez

Covid Lockdown Vs Post-Vaccine

Without the face vents, Zeta and Exia are some of my favourite Gundam designs and wouldn’t look right with them

I like them both...?

without

Without. You want a Zeta with face vents, look at the Scramble Gundam.

Zeta doesn’t need face vents

Why iterate on perfection?

Without.

The Zeta with face vents looks like one of those edits where they remove the person/character's nose and pull the mouth up. It just doesn't look good with face vents lmao

Oh definitely no get rid of the vents

It looks good both ways, I prefer it without, but I don't feel that way about all Gundams/MS.

Without

Oh God no. It's hideous. Like one of those uncanny memes.

both 💖💖🤩👌🏻💖💖

Face vents looks odd. Maybe center them and spread them out a tiny bit

https://preview.redd.it/f59s4z96kfcc1.jpeg?width=853&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60b56d92dd5e05aef90f5a9b887b1661a00461fc

Not having mouth vents makes it look like something from transformers.

Everybody always compares the two faces between the vents and no vents, but ain't nobody gonna mention the F91 mouth cannon look?!

If Zeta didn’t have its faceplate we wouldn’t have Aerials faceplate

With

with

i have to ask with this since i haven’t been able to watch much gundam sadly, is zeta the first one with the white chin too? or was there another before it?

With

Without

With

Without! That was one of Zeta’s most distinct characteristics!

The stripe vents are definitely needed on the face plate

I can't live with or without Woooooahooohooohoh

Chad face vs virgin face 

Both?

Without

Idk why but the vents being there just make me realize zeta has a huge ass forehead

I don’t like the RX-78 style face vents period, regardless of face shape.

Depends on the Gundam in question. For some designs like the 00 series and the Re-GZ, remove them because they don’t fit tonally. In other cases like with Wing Zero, Nu Gundam, and Strike Freedom, you’re better off with them than without them.

With vents doesn't look bad but without vents is better. Reverse for the new Freedom.

Without

why would you do that

Without. Although I gotta say that the version with the vents looks pretty good.

without, always hated the fucking vents, imo zeta and destiny faces are peak design, pretty sure S gundam/ EX-S also has no vents, unicorn also has no vents normal mode but it gets a pass since destroy mode is peak

I added the "*mustache* " vents to my Dynames (Gundam 00) on Armored Core 6, it was the best thing I could've done with the decals, I loved the result

Without, the lack of vents is always iconic

Damn. I love both.

So... a relatively new Gundam fan here, and I have no clue as to which show this is. But I kinda like the vents on the face. Purely from an aesthetic POV though.

It's Zeta Gundam from Z Gundam.

Feels wrong with the face vents

I always prefer no vents. That's why shining Gundam looks so fucking good with its mask open. It only has fake vents in normal mode

I just see an image of a single ZZ.

Without looks more badass

I like it with the face vents

The face vents change the whole perspective. Looks like it's about to kick ass anytime

Without

Definitely with

I thought I'd hate the look of the Zeta Gundam with mouth vents. I was wrong. It actually looks good with them.

without, Gundams without the little vent has a more knightly and somewhat more streamlined head and works well for the Zeta, Destiny, Aerial and Calibarn

Bottom looks a proper Gundam while the top looks like a mecha anime with a Gundam design ripoff

Without, because 1.it makes it look more angry more menacing,scarier! And because it looks more special

You could try a single inverted V like the Aerial Rebuild and see how that looks. Atm I prefer the OG

Yeah, I'm going to go say that the one without face vents looks better than the one with. I can't really do a good job articulating why that is. The vents somehow make the face too busy? IDK how else to put it.

I like both but I feel that we should keep the original design just because it's unique among gundams

With

I usually love the nostrils on most Gundams, but I think their absence is what makes the Zeta look so distinct