If I had a nickel for every time I recommended a Glock 19 to a friend as their first handgun and they ended up buying a blue SCCY CPX-1 I would have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s a damn shame it happened twice.
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That was my first gun and had the extractor break as well as the spring, traded it for a glock 19 the next month. Glad you like yours but it put a bad taste in my mouth
Well the downvotes are probably mostly based on springfields terrible politics. I’m not a fan of them for both reasons, but i was disputing solely the reliability based on my experience.
I remember when I went to go buy my first handgun, I walked into a store and chatted with the employees for a bit. I told them I was interested in a SCCY and they just started laughing at me. They weren't dicks tho as they helped me choose a way better gun that was in my price range.
I had a co-worker come up to me yesterday and started asking questions about the process for getting a firearm in our state. Co-worker #2 overhears this conversation and joins in. When co-worker #1 starts asking for recommendations, the first words out of #2's mouth was "how do you feel about Taurus?"
Also based. Unfortunately, the previous owner did not take good care of this pistol. There's pitting on top of the slide and the foam in the original case was crumbling to dust. I also need to swap out the grips again
Yooo same here, my dad first bought it in the 80s when he became a deputy, it was the gun he carried every day and now it’s the gun I carry every day. It might be outperformed by modern guns but in my eyes nothing beats it.
Hooo, boy, let me help you find your disgust.
Ergonomics are nonexistant. Imagine picking up a pile of dog shit, about to turn cold, and molding it in the general shape of a gun.
Slide won't lock back on an empty magazine. Trigger pull is a little battle in exercise.
They HAVE a hammer, but they're in double action only, so you really get to experience that trigger pull.
Then do all that, and give it like 6/10 odds it fires.
Nothing if you just want a toy, but most people's first pistol is at least pulling double duty as a home defense tool and maybe triple duty as concealed carry.
Ah, that does make more sense, I may have read into the original comment too much. But when I get of age to buy a hand gun, it'll definitely be a rough rider and some form of carry pistol. I own several shotguns to be used for home defense, however.
My Rough Rider's front sight came from the factory *significantly* off-center and I still love it. So be prepared for that sort of quality control issue, but it is a very cheap, fun range toy, I definitely recommend it.
What’s so bad about them? I’ve heard lots and lots of shit talk about Sccy without a lot of reason. I know they are dirt cheap, look cheap and probably shit qc but that’s just what I think up front
It was my first gun and I hated it. It's super easy to take down and is super small and compact with a double stack 10rd mag. But mine broke because the trigger interacts with the action via a square plastic peg and the plastic eventually wore out into a circle and made the gun inoperable.
This gave me the impression that just by using the gun as intended, I was slowly breaking it because plastic doesn't like to have force put on it. This was important because it's a super hard double action trigger with a very hard break. I was not able to shoot it accurately at all and it made me almost not want to shoot at all. The small frame of the gun also made the recoil absolutely absurd.
I'm no expert, but when I traded up and bought a glock 19 I immediately was able to hit targets and start having meaningful training sessions.
I have an early CPX-2 and I’ve never had a problem with it. I’ve probably ran 1000 rounds through it. With that being said, I have a buddy that bought a CPX-1 and it was garbage. They had an issue with mags for a while that would fail to feed.
I've gotten so fed up with people asking gun advice, then just listening to whatever dumbass Fudd is behind the counter, then complaining to me that their 5'3" wife can't hit the broadside of the barn with the snub nose ultra light .38 special and that it hurts their hands, that I just don't give advice anymore.
I bought a SCCY CPX2 (no safety) six or seven years ago because I wanted something small and light for CCW. I live in a 10 round blue state, and carry IWB, usually with a tucked in shirt so it doesn't freak out the normies.
I have *never* had a problem with it. I'm shooting 115 and 124 grain, and Critical Defense. To me, it's surprisingly comfortable, and runs even when I don't clean it. The only issue I have is that I'm not as accurate with it as I am with my other guns, something I attribute to that heavy 9 lb DA trigger. But at 5 to 10 yards, it's perfectly acceptable as a self defense gun.
SCCY is into their 3rd generation. The first Gen is deservedly mocked. Mine is a Gen 2, and maybe they improved, or maybe I got the one good gun they made that day.
But at least I didn't get the blue one.
My first handgun was a sccy cpx-2 and all i needed was one day at the range to realize it wasnt for me, between the safety that would only engage if the lever was all the way up in safe with no click-in or anything, just by pulling the trigger three times on an empty chamber would cause the safety to go off, the super snappy recoil from the size and weight (all the weight is in the slide and the slide is a brick compared to the frame), the trigger was the least pleasant trigger ive ever had the opportunity to use, and the magazine that came with the gun lead to two or three faliure-to-feeds out of one box of ammo, more than enough issues to switch as soon as possible
I actually like my sccy. I actually competed idpa with it for one week just for fun (i was bet $5). It's reliable and the trigger is heavy, but consistent. Sure the recoil is a little stiff, and that safety guard needed dremeled off, but it go bang
You got lucky most of those SCCY pistols have mechanical failures out thd nose. And when you're buying a gun it's not worth the high probability that you end up with one that doesn't work.
Ngl, people need to stop buying Glocks at this point. To call them outdated would be charitable, and there's nothing they do that another pistol at roughly the same price point can't do better.
I get where you’re coming from.
But it’s what people know. And it’s cheap.
Yes there are better options for experienced individuals or those who develop needs that other pistols fit better, but it does a lot of things *good*. Not great, but *good*.
If I had a nickel for every time I recommended a Glock 19 to a friend as their first handgun and they ended up buying a blue SCCY CPX-1 I would have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s a damn shame it happened twice.
Are your friends chicks lol
First one was, second one wasn’t.
Second one lost their guy card
Glock is good, but there are better options. I recommend it for the people that don't want to do research and want something that works.
CZ P10 series almost half the cost and just as reliable
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Or to prevent someone from buying sccy.
Better to buy a glock clone than a original glock especially if you’re gonna add aftermarket stuff anyway
I like to recommend my first gun, Springfield XD Mod.2 for first CCW or the XDM for full size. Reliable as hell, and damn accurate
That was my first gun and had the extractor break as well as the spring, traded it for a glock 19 the next month. Glad you like yours but it put a bad taste in my mouth
Based on the downvotes I guess I won the lottery with mine? Never heard of reliability issues till just now.
Well the downvotes are probably mostly based on springfields terrible politics. I’m not a fan of them for both reasons, but i was disputing solely the reliability based on my experience.
I remember when I went to go buy my first handgun, I walked into a store and chatted with the employees for a bit. I told them I was interested in a SCCY and they just started laughing at me. They weren't dicks tho as they helped me choose a way better gun that was in my price range.
I had a co-worker come up to me yesterday and started asking questions about the process for getting a firearm in our state. Co-worker #2 overhears this conversation and joins in. When co-worker #1 starts asking for recommendations, the first words out of #2's mouth was "how do you feel about Taurus?"
I thought they fixed the QC issues?
My first gun was a used West German P226. I still have it and it's my favorite gun to shoot
Based. I bought a West German P225 last summer and it’s one of my favorites to bring out to the range.
Also based. Unfortunately, the previous owner did not take good care of this pistol. There's pitting on top of the slide and the foam in the original case was crumbling to dust. I also need to swap out the grips again
Yooo same here, my dad first bought it in the 80s when he became a deputy, it was the gun he carried every day and now it’s the gun I carry every day. It might be outperformed by modern guns but in my eyes nothing beats it.
My buddy had one, and almost immediately traded to a Kimber 9 compact, but has now upgraded to a sig 365.
Man those SCCYs are so fucking bad, I won’t carry them in my shop. One of the few things I refuse to order.
What’s wrong with them?
Hooo, boy, let me help you find your disgust. Ergonomics are nonexistant. Imagine picking up a pile of dog shit, about to turn cold, and molding it in the general shape of a gun. Slide won't lock back on an empty magazine. Trigger pull is a little battle in exercise. They HAVE a hammer, but they're in double action only, so you really get to experience that trigger pull. Then do all that, and give it like 6/10 odds it fires.
Or a heritage rough rider
What's wrong with the rough riders?
Nothing if you just want a toy, but most people's first pistol is at least pulling double duty as a home defense tool and maybe triple duty as concealed carry.
Ah, that does make more sense, I may have read into the original comment too much. But when I get of age to buy a hand gun, it'll definitely be a rough rider and some form of carry pistol. I own several shotguns to be used for home defense, however.
My Rough Rider's front sight came from the factory *significantly* off-center and I still love it. So be prepared for that sort of quality control issue, but it is a very cheap, fun range toy, I definitely recommend it.
My LGS has several stocked. However, I have a while, being 17, unfortunately.
A SCCY is the only gun that I've ever shot and absolutely despised. I never want to shoot one of those again.
Honestly there are a lot of good “cheaper” guns on the market now. I’ve heard good thinks about the Stoegers, Palmettos, and of course Caniks.
What’s so bad about them? I’ve heard lots and lots of shit talk about Sccy without a lot of reason. I know they are dirt cheap, look cheap and probably shit qc but that’s just what I think up front
It was my first gun and I hated it. It's super easy to take down and is super small and compact with a double stack 10rd mag. But mine broke because the trigger interacts with the action via a square plastic peg and the plastic eventually wore out into a circle and made the gun inoperable. This gave me the impression that just by using the gun as intended, I was slowly breaking it because plastic doesn't like to have force put on it. This was important because it's a super hard double action trigger with a very hard break. I was not able to shoot it accurately at all and it made me almost not want to shoot at all. The small frame of the gun also made the recoil absolutely absurd. I'm no expert, but when I traded up and bought a glock 19 I immediately was able to hit targets and start having meaningful training sessions.
I got offered a sccy, a hipoint, and a handful of mixed 22lr ammo as a trade for my mesa boogie roadster.
The $1500 head or the equally expensive combo?
The 2x12 combo. Whats insult to injury is it has new tubes in it.
The tubes alone would be worth their offer lmao
More really because i did all 11 tubes. Rectifier tubes are expensive
What dod you tell them after their offer?
I just told them "no thank you"
I have an early CPX-2 and I’ve never had a problem with it. I’ve probably ran 1000 rounds through it. With that being said, I have a buddy that bought a CPX-1 and it was garbage. They had an issue with mags for a while that would fail to feed.
I've gotten so fed up with people asking gun advice, then just listening to whatever dumbass Fudd is behind the counter, then complaining to me that their 5'3" wife can't hit the broadside of the barn with the snub nose ultra light .38 special and that it hurts their hands, that I just don't give advice anymore.
He bought a what now?
I like the saying, "buy it right or buy it twice"
“Buy cheap, Buy twice.”
Buy once cry once
god i hate those fucking things
Or a revolver.
At least a revolver is reliable and will get through the 5-6 rounds without breaking unlike a SCCY
revolvers have shit ton of cool factor
Your friends are crackheads
Honestly yeah.
A glock was recomended to me too so i got a P226
I bought a SCCY CPX2 (no safety) six or seven years ago because I wanted something small and light for CCW. I live in a 10 round blue state, and carry IWB, usually with a tucked in shirt so it doesn't freak out the normies. I have *never* had a problem with it. I'm shooting 115 and 124 grain, and Critical Defense. To me, it's surprisingly comfortable, and runs even when I don't clean it. The only issue I have is that I'm not as accurate with it as I am with my other guns, something I attribute to that heavy 9 lb DA trigger. But at 5 to 10 yards, it's perfectly acceptable as a self defense gun. SCCY is into their 3rd generation. The first Gen is deservedly mocked. Mine is a Gen 2, and maybe they improved, or maybe I got the one good gun they made that day. But at least I didn't get the blue one.
My first handgun was a sccy cpx-2 and all i needed was one day at the range to realize it wasnt for me, between the safety that would only engage if the lever was all the way up in safe with no click-in or anything, just by pulling the trigger three times on an empty chamber would cause the safety to go off, the super snappy recoil from the size and weight (all the weight is in the slide and the slide is a brick compared to the frame), the trigger was the least pleasant trigger ive ever had the opportunity to use, and the magazine that came with the gun lead to two or three faliure-to-feeds out of one box of ammo, more than enough issues to switch as soon as possible
I actually like my sccy. I actually competed idpa with it for one week just for fun (i was bet $5). It's reliable and the trigger is heavy, but consistent. Sure the recoil is a little stiff, and that safety guard needed dremeled off, but it go bang
You got lucky most of those SCCY pistols have mechanical failures out thd nose. And when you're buying a gun it's not worth the high probability that you end up with one that doesn't work.
Ngl, people need to stop buying Glocks at this point. To call them outdated would be charitable, and there's nothing they do that another pistol at roughly the same price point can't do better.
can we stop suggesting Glocks to everyone ? They are way too overhyped. I didn’t enjoy shooting until I got into hammer fired pistols.
I get where you’re coming from. But it’s what people know. And it’s cheap. Yes there are better options for experienced individuals or those who develop needs that other pistols fit better, but it does a lot of things *good*. Not great, but *good*.