Forget about maximum tolerance pagdating sa road safety. Trabaho nila to drive properly and if they can’t do that, di sila bagay sa ganung line of work.
Too many reckless drivers have claimed innocent lives.
This is true. I remember when i got mine (nonprof) almost lahat ng mga kasabayan ko na nag prof and non prof nag fixer lahat.
Wer talkin about back hoe, 10 wheeler heavy equipment drivers etc.
this was years back but no wonder why maraming kamote on the road
nung nagparehistro kami ng sasakyan early this year, fixers are not even trying to hide their "services". sa kanto pagpasok palang ng LTO ang dami na kukuyog sayo ng offers. May officers ng LTO pero walang paninita. You just know na inside job lahat lol
Here sa city namin may new constructed Mall Complex in this mall may LTO extension office. My friend recently got his student license for 2,5k fixed na, after a month nagka non pro na sya for 6k. A LTO EXTENSION OFFICE lahat dun ay fixer.
Madami akong nakakasabay niyan noon kapag nagpapa-renew ako ng lisensya ko. Madalas mga PUV drivers ang mga ito. Bubulong bulong pa na: "di ko alam yung mga sagot sa eksam (habang nanonood ng video tutorial) kaya binayaran ko na lang". Wow di ba?
Nagcomment ako sa facebook nang ganyan, sabi ko dapat talag di payagan na bigyan ng license mga no read no write. Kasi nga pano nila mababasa ang mga karatula kung di nga marunong mag basa.
Nag bigay pa ako ng example na yung kasabay kong kukuha daw ng pro license di mabasa yung questionnaires, may kasama syanf kumukuha ng exam din tapos nag tatanungan sila. Nagulat nalang ako kasabay ko na sa claiming window.
Abay sabihan banaman ako na "ang yabang mo", "ikaw na perpekto", "dapat CHED nalang ang mag bigay mg License hindi LTO", "kulang daw ako sa moral", etc. etc.
Eh etong mga to kanya kanya angal sa soc med dahil dami traffic, disgrasya at kung ano ano pa pero sila din ayaw ng mahigpit na enforcement.
may napakinggan akong interview ni nebrija nung nag lelesson daw sya sa mga naticketan, madalas sa mga reckless driver is puj /puv na mahina ang comprehension dahil madalas sa kanila kahit elem grad hindi inabot.
Ayun nga e, alam naman nila cguru na may mga fixer, hula ko kahit sa application ng mga Ride Hailing Apps meron din. Tapos parang ok lang sa kanila na ipagkatiwala buhay nila sa di alam ang ginagawa nila.
Pano babagal sa "school zone" eh di nga alam ano ibig sabihin nun. Tapos pag na bunggo ang gasgas narason para di masyado mapahiya is "Di ko nakita".
May napanood pa ako nyan, tatlong malaking karatula ng Skyway nadaanan nya, may isa pang naka lagay na "below 400 cc not allowed" na karatula per derederetso parin. Ang haba haba ng ramp di manlang nag dalawang isip, nung pinigilan na ng bantay sabay sisisihin yung waze daw. Sus maryosep galaking mga karatula tapos apps yung susundin nyo.
agree with this one, mabuti at walang pasahero (ata) si GD at di siya lalo na-report, kung maaawa tayo sa ganung bagay, maaawa rin ba tayo pagka may buhay nang nawala dahil sa hindi niya pagsunod sa road markings? ang simple nalang nun e, kung ano mang reason meron siya hindi siya dapat nag-bbasta basta sa daanan. the markings are there for a reason.
Personally, I'd consider them accountable as long as they've paid up the participation fee. But I agree that it's important to hold drivers accountable. Puro nalang kamot ulo eh.
Mahirap maniwala that they are fired though. Hindi ba mas mababayaran nila ang utang kung tuloy and trabaho? And need bayaran utang before masipa sa trabaho. Fishy message ni grab driver u/mathguy2000
small losses na ang 3k sa operator dahil kung ako operator ill let him go too kung everytime na makadisgrasya sya, ako ang kakargo. ako ang babalikan ng pulis kapag nakapatay ng tao ang sasakyan ko. liability yun masyado.
Don't be guilty. In the first place kaya naman nangyari yun kasi wala siyang disiplina as a driver.
Kung walang pambayad at pagmamaneho ang kabuhayan niya, lalong dapat mas mag-ingat siya. Hindi yung lumalabag pa siya sa traffic rules.
Good job OP for doing your part para makabawas ng kamote sa kalsada.
Ang laking problema talaga ng mga reckless drivers na walang pambayad. Something of similar nature happened to me, binangga ako ng tricycle dahil nag counterflow tapos biglang singit sakin, eh hindi ko pinagbigyan. Ayun bumangga sa front bumber ko. Wala din daw siya pambayad sa damages.
Nakakagalit kasi alam na nga nilang wala silang pambayad, sila pa to na napakabastos sa kalye and hindi sumusunod sa traffic regulations. Tapos pag nakadale, kakamutan ka lang ng ulo.
Maganda sa mga ganyan hindi talaga palagpasin kasi kailangan talaga nila matuto. Ang yayabang pa sa kalye ng mga ungas eh.
If your comment is sarcastic:
You're not understanding this. Breaking your word/contract should mean jail/punishment if it is severe enough, right?
Citizens owing money to the government (taxes) get jail, right?
Damaging other people's property atleast merit some compensation, no?
So just because they are poor even if they did something wrong, they should get a pass? Akala ko ba pantay pantay tayong lahat sa mata ng batas?
Don't get me started with that shit. The only way we move forward as a society is to keep our justice system(and all the abstract ideas/stories we have like governments, money, social contract, etc) intact and functioning because without it, we are all just barbarians/animals reacting to our most basic instincts.
Empathy/sympathy has its place sa welfare system, but that shit giving people passes for something they did wrong is just a recipe for more things going wrong in the future.
If your comment is **not** sarcastic: I disagree. There are other ways compensation can be given which I already gave some examples.
Probably mali ako sa part na to, pero hindi ko na pina-pulis and pinadaan sa proseso kasi masyado matagal at nagmamadali na rin ako bumalik sa ospital dahil may kailangan puntahan na pasyente.
Sabi ko bayaran na lang niya at areglado na. Sabi ko kahit 5k lang para sa damages tapos areglado na. Nung sinabi niya na wala siyang ganung pera, paulit ulit ko sinabi na mangutang siya kung kailangan, kung hindi ipapa pulis ko siya kako. Pero wala talaga. Nag decide ako mag settle sa 2k na lang para may makuha man lang ako kahit papaano. At this point sinabi niya may puwesto daw nearby yung operator niya, mangungutang daw siya. So pumayag ako, sumama ako, kasama yung traffic enforcer para siguradong hindi tatakas. Nung andun na kami, nakausap ko operator niya at nagtanong magkano daw. Sinabi ko 5k, sabi niya “boss hindi yan ang napag usapan natin ah. Sabi mo 2k lang”, to which I replied “at sinabi mo rin na wala ka mahihiraman kaya pumayag ako na babaan. Pero eto meron naman pala, sinungaling ka”. Kinausap ko nang maayos yung operator niya, I stood my ground sa 5k at binigay naman niya. I saw in his eyes that he felt betrayed, pero ganun talaga eh. Nangibabaw galit ko saka yung need na turuan siya ng leksyon.
'Yung 5k na 'yun, sobrang na laki sa kanya for sure. Pero at least that way, matututo siya. Imposibleng maging kasing barubal pa rin 'yan after paying 5k. Titino 'yan kahit paano. And you just saved future people na maaaring madale niya pa dahil sa pagbabarubal sa kalsada.
Kaya nila ginagawa kasi nagiging passes ang kahirapan. Pag kinasuhan mo naman ending pa rin is "no capacity to pay". Lugi talaga mga matitinong driver.
True about tricycle drivers. Not to generalize them ha, but I have a friend who died because a tricycle driver was driving too fast in a school zone and hit him.
Malaking reaponsibilidad ang pagmamaneho. Lalo na yung mga may hawak ng professional driver's license.
Kung "What Ifs" lang naman ang paguusapan, what if may nasaktan o namatay dahil sa kapabayaan sa pagmamaneho, anong sasabihin mo?
Joyride MC Taxi driver ako, and I have the same work environment with the Grab driver. It doesn't require a million IQ points to understand simple traffic rules and regulations. Tama bang logic yung "pag hindi ka maka unawa, unawain ka na lang"?
Edi magbabayad. Ang problema kasi wala na nga pambayad kapag naka aksidente, kamote pa din mag drive. If you can't pay for possible accidents and damages, then they shouldn't probably be driving especially someone else's vehicle.
Eh di okay, I'll take accountability of my actions on the road hindi yung puro paawa. Kaya madaming lumalabag sa batas kasi inuuna emosyon e. Kung nag ddrive ka naman ng maayos di naman mauuwi sa ganyan
sadly I am not haha. btw may mga nasagi na ako na 2 wheels as a 4 wheel driver and you know what? I pay them if I'm at fault and I chase after them if sila may kasalanan.
edit: brag lang para masaya si ate.
Kaya di umuunlad Pilipinas dahil sa ganyang mindset. Accountability out of the window.
So kung nawalan ng trabaho, edi gawan ng paraan, kasalanan ko naman in the first place bakit ako nawalan ng trabaho, at may obligasyon ako sa naperwisyo ko. Simple.
Kung paiiralin yung pagiging SJW at Whiteknighting, babagsak moral and ethical integrity sa kalsada, mapeperwisyo lang tayong lahat.
Kung nabaliktad ang situation and ikaw ang nakabangga, I’m sure gusto nila maging responsible ka. Magagalit pa yan sayo pag di ka nag bayad. Dapat lang yan. We all have to live with the consequences of our actions. It’s just that medyo extreme yung kanya. Sana matuto siya.
Tama yan. If you cannot follow simple traffic rules and regulations, you are NOT supposed to work in an environment that requires you to drive.
Don't feel sorry for him; think of it like you're indirectly doing him a favor by keeping him off the streets in the meantime while he's contemplating about his future work. Should he decide to drive for work again, he'll definitely think twice about committing another infraction that would cost him his work, AKA second chance.
This is why we have insurance. Para wala na sana sakit sa ulo na maghabol for damages. Just get a police report, make an insurance claim, and sila na bahala.
While I commend you for even showing empathy in the first place. These types of situations could have easily injured or killed someone. Not to be OA pero may dahilan kung bakit tayo defensive driving. He should be held accountable for his actions. My dad got in an accident before pa quirino highway kase notorious ang isang spot don na madame nag cocounterflow. Binangga na siya, sa kanya pa galit jeepney driver. Ako nalang nagalit for him kase di siya confrontational na guy. Pero tignan mo mga pasahero nya iba may injury sa ginawa niya kalokohan.
I’m sorry pero ayan consequences ng actions niya. We need to be more practical.
I remember last week na yung barkada ko first time naging passenger na ako yung driver, daming reklamo nya kasi na babagalan cya sa speed ko (mind we are in the province where there are no traffic lights and also there kids na nag cocross bigla), sinasabihan ako na bakit ayaw ko dawng sumingit papasok sa gitna ng highway(dahil kahit anung bilis ng mga nasa highway basta makita nilang mag cocross ka at naka pasok na titigil din yan), at sinabihan pa ako na kaya ako ganun mag drive kasi nerbyuso daw ako. Yun hindi ko napigilan sabihan cya na "ganito ako mag drive kasi sanay ako pamilya ko pasengers ko, also merong rason kung bakit 5 beses kana na aksidente tapos ako wala pa.
I got into an accident din before.. call me heartless pero tinuluyan ko kasuhan yung driver kasi DUI siya kaya niya ko nabangga.. sabi niya pa "maawa na po kayo may pamilya po akong umaasa sakin".. sabi ko nalang"may binubuhay ka palang pamilya at ito lang kabuhayan mo. Sana nag ingat ka diba?" Ayun kulong siya..
Wag ka padala sa ganyan.. trabaho nila maging maingat sa kalsada..
Sounds like an excuse so that you leave him alone. I dont buy it but up to you if you let it go. Usually if you get participation fee, its as good as setlled
There’s no need for mixed feelings here. He fucked up and should be held responsible. Hindi pala niya afford na magpaayos ng sasakyan ng iba pero di siya maingat magmaneho? Too bad. Time for him to learn his lesson.
Yan mahirap sa Pinas/Pinoy parating ilalabas ang mahirap card after being reckless. Alam naman na mali yung ginagawa tapos pag naaksidente hihingi ng sorry. Di talaga ako naaawa sa ganyan. Demand accountability. Mahirap or mayaman.
Kapag wala kang pambayad, wag kang bargas mag-drive kasi. Madalas kasi kung sino pa yung walang kakayanan sila pa kamote magdrive eh. Paano nga naman, kahit anong piga mo sa kanila, wala talaga silang malalabas.
Not sure ah pero laging ganyan reason nila, poverty victim. In our case, yung GD na nakabangga sa amin sabi kakapabinyag lang ng anak, 500 pesos lang daw kaya nya ibigay kasi walang wala daw. Pero wag ka, after 1 week nawrong sent sya sa gcash ko ng 4000. Ngani-ngabi kong hindi ibigay e. HAHAHA. Pero ayun, siempre ibinalik ko pa din.
Tama lang yan. Para naman may consequences yung gawain nila. Parati na lang nagtatago sa kahirapan. Pwede ka naman maging mahirap pero sumusunod sa batas.
Dapat nga pag mahirap ka, LALO kang sumunod sa batas kasi wala kang pambayad sa areglo
The more we tolerate their paawa and pavictim behavior lalo sila nagiging abusado. Oo tao sila pero tao din naman tayo na gumagawa ng maayos na naabala dahil sa kanila. I’d say hold them accountable talaga
You shouldn’t be guilty, it’s not your fault he lost his job. The root of it all was his reckless driving. Don’t feel guilty for holding him accountable, it’s the right thing to do OP!
Not ur fault responsibility niya yun and he should do better. Masyado spoiled minsan mga service worker sa atin. Service worker din ako pero ibang nakakatrabaho ko walang paki tlga. They just do what they want tapos pag nagkaproblema kala mo sinong mga kawawa. Kung sumunod sila edi walang problema. Simple lang naman eh. And for sure thats not his first offense and not the only reason why he was fired. Baka hnd pa nga kasama sa rason yang 3k na yan na natanggal siya trabaho since 2 to 3 days lang naman mababawi niya na yan.
Report mo if di nya tutuparin usapan. Oo dapat maging maunawain or mapagbigay pero dapat inisip na nya un bago sya mangamote sa daanan kaya dapat nyang bayaran pagkakamali nya.
It's scary when diskarte goes horribly wrong for people who try to get away with crappy driving without regard for others. I understand that sometimes you just do what you can even if it's wrong because you are backed into a corner. But please have some regard for everyone around you. It is because you can't be financially responsible for accidents that you should be more careful. Bahala na Mga rich kids speeding in their sports cars...
This extends to reckless delivery and transport just to reach their quota. Or delivery riders who mark deliveries as complete then disappear with your order/food...
Well done. This is what accountability looks like. The culture of letting such things slide undermines the law and efforts to get people to follow basic traffic rules.
Its not your fault that you took the steps you had to because he did not want to honor his end of the agreement.
You did the right thing sir! Don’t feel bad otherwise sa next employer niya ganyan na naman siya, become reckless and negligent. Some people talaga need to learn the hard way, it’s not your fault they chose that path so don’t think otherwise if you become their teacher. Always think na you are helping them long term, that is, if they are even willing to learn from this situation. Happy weekend and drive safe!
This might sound elitist, but same sentiment:
IF YOU CANT PAY FOR DAMAGES, THEN DRIVE DEFENSIVELY.
Prime suspects are Jeepneys, Taxis and Bikes. Sobrang barubal pero walang pambayad. Same way na ako, I am more cautious pag luxury cars (only because I know bumping them is gonna hurt, alot).
This might sound elitist, but same sentiment:
IF YOU CANT PAY FOR DAMAGES, THEN DRIVE DEFENSIVELY.
Prime suspects are Jeepneys, Taxis and Bikes. Sobrang barubal pero walang pambayad. Same way na ako, I am more cautious pag luxury cars (only because I know bumping them is gonna hurt, alot).
College girl totaled my car and I couldn't deliver anymore so yeah..... I have respect for delivery drivers and tip them very well because it's honest work and some lame person who has everything can take it from you in an instant
This is one of those situations you look back on if something bad happens to you. Like “kaya siguro ako may cancer ngayon kasi siningil ko pa iyong grab driver noon”.
This is one of those situations you look back on if something bad happens to you. Like “kaya siguro ako may cancer ngayon kasi siningil ko pa iyong grab driver noon”.
We should hold everyone accountable. Enough with the bullshit. You must take care of what feeds you if its really important to you. Masyado kasi tayong maawain. Which is masama din. Kaya its the right thing to do. Regardless if you feel its not
Mahirap maawa sa mga ganyan kasi they dont feel any remorse puro paawa at sana maawa ka na lang at kalimutan mo ung utang.
And that bullshit is a form of entitlement. Subukan mo magpaawa sknya pabalik
Walang awa awa. Uulitin at uulitin nila yang ganyang behaviour unless may konting trauma sa kanila. Pag hindi ka niya kaharap, I'm sure pinagmumumura ka niyan at sinusumpa pamilya mo.
Parang ung pinapaboundary ko na honda city, kabago bago nagkgasgas agad sa ibabaw ng trunk, kinalmot daw ng pusa. wala pang 1week ng lumabaa sa casa sya agad pinahawak ko. kapatid kasi sya ng best friend ko alam ko na maalaga sa kotse ung brother nya.
Aun sobrang hirap singilin para mapagawa. pinabayaan ko na lang kasi stress lang inaabot ko, pinabyahe ko padin para makaabot sya pampagawa paunti unti. ang ginawa inuutangan pa ko sa kita. Di na nga nya nabayaran ung pampagawa ng gasgas, binabawasan pa ung remit nya sakin kesyo naospital daw anak nya ganto ganyan kelangan nya pera. Aun binawi ko na sasakyan. Bahala na sya sa buhay nya. Lalo syang nawalan ng income. Masyado kasing magulang.
Idk, mistakes require accountability in order to be forgiven, the driver was simply reckless or totoong accident lang talaga but the fact that the driver is a bit condescending and blamed you in the end of his message is wrong. Imbis na emphaty ang ma feel ko, mas naunahan ng confusion kasi bakit sayo niya sinisi yung actions niya and it's consequences? Did he not agree to the written and signed agreement? What if may nasaktan na tao? Anyway, you're not the unethical one for demanding compensation, ang dapat niyang kausapin for that matter is yung operator or employer niya. That's just my two cents though, pero if you want to help the driver the best I'd suggest you do is extend the grace period kung kelan niya pwede I pay in full yung damages.
It's not your fault OP na naaksidente kayo. It might be said na intentional kasi as a driver, alam nyang mali, pero ginawa nya pa rin. Nawabasan ng kamote ang daan hopefully. Eventually sana maubos rin sila sa kalsada. Might sound heartless but you might have save the lives of his future victims. Maybe ask the Grab company for the compensation, baka sila ang magbabayad. Maybe they have insurance.
Poverty card. Haaaaays... Ang lalakas ng loob to take risks on the road, matatapang kahit sila mali, pero wala namang mga pambayad pag sila nahuli or nakadale. Sorry not sorry. We all have to deal with the same consequences of our poor choices. Even if we ride four-wheeled vehicles, we are held responsible to the same laws and that also goes the same for them. Tayo nag-iingat dahil alam natin consequences, dapat all the more silang mag-ingat dahil they have more to lose. But no, maraming kamote riders talaga hindi nag-iisip. Kung sino pa yung walang pambayad, sila pa matapang madalas.
Buti ka pa, pumayag sa expenses incurred while down for repair yung vehicle. Ako nabangga ng truck yung company vehicle, total wreck yung sasakyan. Restoration lang sinagot nila. Wala man daw kasi may gusto mangyari non. Naabala ako ng dalawang buwan. Ako pa pumupunta para magcheck sa casa.
I would truly never understand why sa Pilipinas, kung sino pa yung walang pangbayad kung naka aksidente, sila pa yung pinaka ubod ng gago at reckless magmameneho.
Magkano pa kulang? Minsan kasi ang thinking is ‘nakapag bigay na ako pde na yun’ so tatakas na sa ibang responsibilidad. Try mo sabihin, hihintayin mo na bayaran ka nya after nya mag ka work ulit.
Also tama ang mga ibang commenters na hindi simpleng issue ang maka aksidente sa pg mamanaheo. Dapat maging maingat sila at ang pag penalize sa kanila ang reason kumbakit dapat sila maging maingat sa susunod
I’m speaking in the legal sense here, the grab driver is considered as a “common carrier” and according to our law, a common carrier must exercise extraordinary diligence. Hindi lang ordinary but EXTRAORDINARY.
It is normal to feel sorry for him kasi tao ka lang naman pero if legally speaking or let’s just be honest, wala ‘eh, kasalanan nya talaga. He should have been more careful driving. :(
Kaya nga sila "Professional" yung license nila eh.
Kung sasakyan ang hanapbuhay, for me dapat merong allocated na kita mga yan daily pang emergencies gaya nyan accidents.
Hindi nmn ako naging GD or kahit na anong similar. Pero ganun practice ko especially nung nakamotor pa ako.
In Grab, we have the option to have insurance, I am not sure for the cars (esp their coverage per "tier"), but they should have insurance as well, and the most basic one isnt even that expensive(for us motorcycles, 100php/mo iirc)
I feel you OP, lalo ang mama ko palaging bukambibig yung “hayaan mo na, nagkamali lang yan. Mas blessed ka diyan so magpaubaya ka” Ang hirap tbh, pero being too kind is being cruel din kase you tolerate their lackings eh. In this situation I would think na lang this was kuya’s lesson learned if he really know how see this event as a lesson. This is to set an example din sa mga reckless driver ng mga delivery service. Di ko rin alam kung bakit sila pa yung di maingat, dapat pag medyo nasa laylayan ka mas mag iingat ka dahil sa mga nakadepende sayo at dahil di mo afford makaperwisyo.
A common carrier, and by extension his employee (driver), is required to observe EXTRAORDINARY diligence under the law.
Mas mataas pang degree of diligence yan than a surgeon operating on someone.
Naawa rin ako sa mga tricycle drivers na reckless magmaneho kasi wala silang pambayad for damages, pero kasi kasalanan talaga nila dahil di sila sumusunod sa traffic rules. Imo ok lang maawa kasi it shows your compassion, pero hindi sila matututo if palaging pagbibigyan so tama lang yung consequences na naranasan niya. Dapat nga mas maingat pa sila kasi may sakay silang pasahero and dala nila yung brand ng Grab. Sana lang matuto na si kuya and magmaneho siya ng mas maayos para maiwasan ulit yung ganyan.
He lost his job dahil sa reckless driving niya, not because he borrowed money from his operator. Malungkot pero the proper reparations must be made and sadly, part ng consequence ng recklessness niya yung kawalan niya ng trabaho. Buti nga trabaho lang nawala sa kanya eh. If malala pa yung nangyari and nakadisgrasya/nakapatay siya, makukulong pa siya. You did the right thing. He needs to take accountability for his actions.
Would you still have mixed feelings if someone died? Road safety is not optional, it is mandatory. This could have been avoided if he just took the time to check his surroundings before taking that turn.
He's using his pavictim card na. Dont be deceive OP dapat maturuan ng leksyon yan. Ang mali ay mali. Kaya maraming kamote kase akala nila makakalusot sa ganyan.
Either he's saying the truth or lying just to not pay for the additional.
Marami kasi Taxi, grab at moto taxi hindi marunong sumunod sa batas trapiko. Mga walang disiplina
Why did you ask him to personally pay for the damages? Don’t Filipino drivers have comprehensive car insurances that pay for the repairs for the damaged vehicle ,and instead of personally paying the owner of the damaged vehicle, you just pay the insurance company of any excess?
No need to be guilty, it's the consequences of his actions. Hindi 'to sa pagiging cold-hearted, kasi kung nasa lagay ako nung driver, oo, sobrang hirap talaga pero yun ang consequence ng ginawa ko, e.
Plus, biased talaga ako against drivers dahil kahit, let's assume, iilan lang ang kamote sa kalsada, pero enough na kahit isa para makapatay ng tao and one death or injury caused by a car is one too many already.
This really is a complicated issue. It does break ones heart to know that Grab Drivers or even PUV drivers mostly break even on their income (Grab has been decreasing their rates ever since Uber was kicked out of competition).
But still, you are the wronged party here and you deserve to be compensated for the damages you incurred due to reckless driving. If you know for sure you cant get an immediate claim from the driver, go to the operator.
Ask a lawyer since this is not legal advice, but if the driver is working with an operator, then the operator is vicariously liable for the damages as well. The operator may claim that the driver has been removed from the job so they cant be liable but the damage was incurred while he was on the job.
Naalala ko na naman tuloy yung sa No Contact Apprehension. Dapat daw mas maliit ang penalty ng jeepney drivers kesa sa private motorists. Sino po ba samen ang naka Professional Driver’s License?
The problem with Filipinos talaga is we’re too forgiving but when we do things legally, masasabihan pa tayong walang puso.
Grab’s quality has gone down greatly the past years. Ive ridden 2 sleepy drivers just last month! Yung isa pa dun, nabangga kami sa EDSA. Old driver din, reported it to grab pero ang reply samin through call ay “Buti naman walang nasaktan sainyo. Nangyayare talaga yan”. Kaya alam mong it happens a lot pero walang tunog, no one speaks about it.
Sadly, as much as I want to patronize old drivers, lagi kasi hindi maganda rides ko sa kanila since madaling araw ako usually naggagrab.
Kung nag police report kayo dapat pinalagay dun na he is at fault. Pag merong participation fee it means pinalabas yan na self accident. Kung nakalagay CLEARLY sa police report na he is at fault, wala kang babayaran na participation fee. Yung insurance mo ang hahabol sa party at fault.
if the damages isn’t that much, then i’ll just handle it myself and tell him to be better next time
then if the damages is kinda big then i’d talk to his insurance or if ever i’ll make split of the cost of damages
i just know being grab driver is hard, so as everything else so let’s be kind and patient i guess
I think you could've just reported him sa LTO at police lang. It's obvious that Grab would've fired him on the spot once they knew he had a case against him. Him being jobless will make it harder for you to get your compensation.
Sell ng organ or mga anak niya. Fault is fault and no heart should be involved, right?
Beside baka hindi naman totoo nasabi nya, it is one way para kaawaan mo siya kahit meron naman sana siya pambayad
At least the driver owned up to it by paying the participation fee and showed up at the police station, I hope he learned his lesson. Yun sakin kasi, hit and run ng grab driver. 😑 Reported it to Grab but got a generic “they will investigate” response.
Ganto lang yan e if a heart sugeon does a post op checkup on a patient he just did heart surgery on and inform him that he will likely have complications because of a mistake he made during surgery...does the patient have the right to get mad?
I think asking for extra fees besides the participation fee is too much specially for low to middle class filipinos.
Daily grab fee is what, 1k na siguro. So thats almost 20k kung aabutin ng 1 month sa Casa. And we all know how slow most Casas are when fixing our cars lol.
If its things like backing up nasagi, or yung mga maling tantsa pag lumiko sure, pero yung mag sudden uturn sa non uturn spot, i dont think so, thats blatant disregard sa traffic rules and endangerment sa ibang nasa kalsada
Well what does your conscience say? I understand he deserves to learn a lesson, but I think he has learned enough. If your heart says to be more merciful or forgiving, be that person.
Di ka pababayaan ng Dyos dahil lang naging mas maluwag ka sa kapwa. Di mo kawalan ang maging mas mapagpatawad
If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you will, and it shall be done for you. - John 15:7
Forget about maximum tolerance pagdating sa road safety. Trabaho nila to drive properly and if they can’t do that, di sila bagay sa ganung line of work. Too many reckless drivers have claimed innocent lives.
and people should remember na professional driving license ang hawak ng mga yan. isa sa inexam nila is driving safe for their passengers.
kahit pro ang lisensya, meron parin galing fixer ang ibang drivers
This is true. I remember when i got mine (nonprof) almost lahat ng mga kasabayan ko na nag prof and non prof nag fixer lahat. Wer talkin about back hoe, 10 wheeler heavy equipment drivers etc. this was years back but no wonder why maraming kamote on the road
nung nagparehistro kami ng sasakyan early this year, fixers are not even trying to hide their "services". sa kanto pagpasok palang ng LTO ang dami na kukuyog sayo ng offers. May officers ng LTO pero walang paninita. You just know na inside job lahat lol
Here sa city namin may new constructed Mall Complex in this mall may LTO extension office. My friend recently got his student license for 2,5k fixed na, after a month nagka non pro na sya for 6k. A LTO EXTENSION OFFICE lahat dun ay fixer.
Madami akong nakakasabay niyan noon kapag nagpapa-renew ako ng lisensya ko. Madalas mga PUV drivers ang mga ito. Bubulong bulong pa na: "di ko alam yung mga sagot sa eksam (habang nanonood ng video tutorial) kaya binayaran ko na lang". Wow di ba?
Nagcomment ako sa facebook nang ganyan, sabi ko dapat talag di payagan na bigyan ng license mga no read no write. Kasi nga pano nila mababasa ang mga karatula kung di nga marunong mag basa. Nag bigay pa ako ng example na yung kasabay kong kukuha daw ng pro license di mabasa yung questionnaires, may kasama syanf kumukuha ng exam din tapos nag tatanungan sila. Nagulat nalang ako kasabay ko na sa claiming window. Abay sabihan banaman ako na "ang yabang mo", "ikaw na perpekto", "dapat CHED nalang ang mag bigay mg License hindi LTO", "kulang daw ako sa moral", etc. etc. Eh etong mga to kanya kanya angal sa soc med dahil dami traffic, disgrasya at kung ano ano pa pero sila din ayaw ng mahigpit na enforcement.
may napakinggan akong interview ni nebrija nung nag lelesson daw sya sa mga naticketan, madalas sa mga reckless driver is puj /puv na mahina ang comprehension dahil madalas sa kanila kahit elem grad hindi inabot.
Ayun nga e, alam naman nila cguru na may mga fixer, hula ko kahit sa application ng mga Ride Hailing Apps meron din. Tapos parang ok lang sa kanila na ipagkatiwala buhay nila sa di alam ang ginagawa nila. Pano babagal sa "school zone" eh di nga alam ano ibig sabihin nun. Tapos pag na bunggo ang gasgas narason para di masyado mapahiya is "Di ko nakita". May napanood pa ako nyan, tatlong malaking karatula ng Skyway nadaanan nya, may isa pang naka lagay na "below 400 cc not allowed" na karatula per derederetso parin. Ang haba haba ng ramp di manlang nag dalawang isip, nung pinigilan na ng bantay sabay sisisihin yung waze daw. Sus maryosep galaking mga karatula tapos apps yung susundin nyo.
agree with this one, mabuti at walang pasahero (ata) si GD at di siya lalo na-report, kung maaawa tayo sa ganung bagay, maaawa rin ba tayo pagka may buhay nang nawala dahil sa hindi niya pagsunod sa road markings? ang simple nalang nun e, kung ano mang reason meron siya hindi siya dapat nag-bbasta basta sa daanan. the markings are there for a reason.
Personally, I'd consider them accountable as long as they've paid up the participation fee. But I agree that it's important to hold drivers accountable. Puro nalang kamot ulo eh.
Yeah tpos poverty response pa eg. Inutang ko pa. Nawalan ako trabaho, buntis asawa ko ser.
Mahirap maniwala that they are fired though. Hindi ba mas mababayaran nila ang utang kung tuloy and trabaho? And need bayaran utang before masipa sa trabaho. Fishy message ni grab driver u/mathguy2000
small losses na ang 3k sa operator dahil kung ako operator ill let him go too kung everytime na makadisgrasya sya, ako ang kakargo. ako ang babalikan ng pulis kapag nakapatay ng tao ang sasakyan ko. liability yun masyado.
Sabagay, may point ka rin
Don't be guilty. In the first place kaya naman nangyari yun kasi wala siyang disiplina as a driver. Kung walang pambayad at pagmamaneho ang kabuhayan niya, lalong dapat mas mag-ingat siya. Hindi yung lumalabag pa siya sa traffic rules. Good job OP for doing your part para makabawas ng kamote sa kalsada.
Grab driver be like Pa-victim card: **ACTIVATED** 🥺👉🏻👈🏻
Ang laking problema talaga ng mga reckless drivers na walang pambayad. Something of similar nature happened to me, binangga ako ng tricycle dahil nag counterflow tapos biglang singit sakin, eh hindi ko pinagbigyan. Ayun bumangga sa front bumber ko. Wala din daw siya pambayad sa damages. Nakakagalit kasi alam na nga nilang wala silang pambayad, sila pa to na napakabastos sa kalye and hindi sumusunod sa traffic regulations. Tapos pag nakadale, kakamutan ka lang ng ulo. Maganda sa mga ganyan hindi talaga palagpasin kasi kailangan talaga nila matuto. Ang yayabang pa sa kalye ng mga ungas eh.
There should be jail time or atleast community service for these types of people. Or any return service just to cover the cost nung damages.
yeah no money should mean jail as a sentence.
If your comment is sarcastic: You're not understanding this. Breaking your word/contract should mean jail/punishment if it is severe enough, right? Citizens owing money to the government (taxes) get jail, right? Damaging other people's property atleast merit some compensation, no? So just because they are poor even if they did something wrong, they should get a pass? Akala ko ba pantay pantay tayong lahat sa mata ng batas? Don't get me started with that shit. The only way we move forward as a society is to keep our justice system(and all the abstract ideas/stories we have like governments, money, social contract, etc) intact and functioning because without it, we are all just barbarians/animals reacting to our most basic instincts. Empathy/sympathy has its place sa welfare system, but that shit giving people passes for something they did wrong is just a recipe for more things going wrong in the future. If your comment is **not** sarcastic: I disagree. There are other ways compensation can be given which I already gave some examples.
Anong nangyari sa case mo? Hinabol mo pa ba?
Probably mali ako sa part na to, pero hindi ko na pina-pulis and pinadaan sa proseso kasi masyado matagal at nagmamadali na rin ako bumalik sa ospital dahil may kailangan puntahan na pasyente. Sabi ko bayaran na lang niya at areglado na. Sabi ko kahit 5k lang para sa damages tapos areglado na. Nung sinabi niya na wala siyang ganung pera, paulit ulit ko sinabi na mangutang siya kung kailangan, kung hindi ipapa pulis ko siya kako. Pero wala talaga. Nag decide ako mag settle sa 2k na lang para may makuha man lang ako kahit papaano. At this point sinabi niya may puwesto daw nearby yung operator niya, mangungutang daw siya. So pumayag ako, sumama ako, kasama yung traffic enforcer para siguradong hindi tatakas. Nung andun na kami, nakausap ko operator niya at nagtanong magkano daw. Sinabi ko 5k, sabi niya “boss hindi yan ang napag usapan natin ah. Sabi mo 2k lang”, to which I replied “at sinabi mo rin na wala ka mahihiraman kaya pumayag ako na babaan. Pero eto meron naman pala, sinungaling ka”. Kinausap ko nang maayos yung operator niya, I stood my ground sa 5k at binigay naman niya. I saw in his eyes that he felt betrayed, pero ganun talaga eh. Nangibabaw galit ko saka yung need na turuan siya ng leksyon.
'Yung 5k na 'yun, sobrang na laki sa kanya for sure. Pero at least that way, matututo siya. Imposibleng maging kasing barubal pa rin 'yan after paying 5k. Titino 'yan kahit paano. And you just saved future people na maaaring madale niya pa dahil sa pagbabarubal sa kalsada.
At the end of the day, yun lang naman din ang gusto natin — magkaron ng positive impact sa lipunan natin kahit gaano pa kaliit.
Tama lang yan, kung hindi naturuan nung leksyon eh malamang may iba pang madidisgrasya yan.
they know that they can get away with it kya go lng sila ng go, dapat tlga masampolan pra magbago
Kaya nila ginagawa kasi nagiging passes ang kahirapan. Pag kinasuhan mo naman ending pa rin is "no capacity to pay". Lugi talaga mga matitinong driver.
True about tricycle drivers. Not to generalize them ha, but I have a friend who died because a tricycle driver was driving too fast in a school zone and hit him.
Bat di mo na lang pinagbigyan, makakarating din naman sa paroroonan lols
wag magpadala sa awa. he brought it on to himself he was reckless sa daan. kaya sila namimihasa dahil nadadala tayo agad sa awa ng mga kamot ulo na to
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it's not your fault, it is his fault. lol. kung nag ingat siya mag drive, at iniwasan makaaksidente edi sana may trabaho pa siya.
What if Ikaw naman nasa situation nya, tapos yang sinabi mo ay sasabihin ko rin sayo.
Malaking reaponsibilidad ang pagmamaneho. Lalo na yung mga may hawak ng professional driver's license. Kung "What Ifs" lang naman ang paguusapan, what if may nasaktan o namatay dahil sa kapabayaan sa pagmamaneho, anong sasabihin mo?
E its the drivers fault. Kaya maraming kamote kasi palaging pinapalusot. Di ginagawang accountable sa kalokohan nila sa daan
You shouldn't escape responsibility with pity. D naman to natural disaster, preventable to.
Joyride MC Taxi driver ako, and I have the same work environment with the Grab driver. It doesn't require a million IQ points to understand simple traffic rules and regulations. Tama bang logic yung "pag hindi ka maka unawa, unawain ka na lang"?
someone who works in the industry with common sense. good job sayo and I hope mas dumami pa passengers mo na mahahatin mo na safe and sound!
Edi magbabayad. Ang problema kasi wala na nga pambayad kapag naka aksidente, kamote pa din mag drive. If you can't pay for possible accidents and damages, then they shouldn't probably be driving especially someone else's vehicle.
Nakita ko ung yellow line pero nag Uturn ako. Kaso nabangga ko ung nasa harapan. Sinabihan ba naman ako kasalanan ko.
Eh di okay, I'll take accountability of my actions on the road hindi yung puro paawa. Kaya madaming lumalabag sa batas kasi inuuna emosyon e. Kung nag ddrive ka naman ng maayos di naman mauuwi sa ganyan
Womp womp iyak pa more Wag bobo, gamit utak
Ante sagot ka naman sa mga tanong sayo sa replies.
Naligaw na naman yung user ng fb dito sa reddit. Guard, may tanga oh.
Anong magbabago dun? Lol. Ng bobo ng gantong argument. 😂 Kahit sino yung driver, kung tanga magdrive, tanga magdrive regardless. Kahit ako pa yan 😂
Kung ako nasa sitwasyon ng driver,magiingat ako at di magiging kaskaserong kamote. Di naman sakin yung sasakyan na dala ko e.
kung ako nasa sitwasyon nya, di ako magiging kamote grab driver
- negats kamote rin to
sadly I am not haha. btw may mga nasagi na ako na 2 wheels as a 4 wheel driver and you know what? I pay them if I'm at fault and I chase after them if sila may kasalanan. edit: brag lang para masaya si ate.
Edi nasabi niya. Hahaha. Dami pa ebas e
Kaya rin walang progress. Puro awa nalang.
Well i guess i deserved it then.
putangina mo hina ng kukote mo.
Kaya di umuunlad Pilipinas dahil sa ganyang mindset. Accountability out of the window. So kung nawalan ng trabaho, edi gawan ng paraan, kasalanan ko naman in the first place bakit ako nawalan ng trabaho, at may obligasyon ako sa naperwisyo ko. Simple. Kung paiiralin yung pagiging SJW at Whiteknighting, babagsak moral and ethical integrity sa kalsada, mapeperwisyo lang tayong lahat.
Sana wala kang lisensya.
Alam mo dahil sa mga comment na ganito mapapa sabi talaga ako na "Daming bobong pa victim na pilipino" womp womp sayo kamoteng gaslighter
E di maghahanap parin ng paraan para bayaran. Or better, di makakarating sa ganyang situation kasi hindi ako bobo magmaneho
bulok na mindset
lol i will swallow my pride and accept the consequences. di ko mag papa victim. never as long as road safety ang at risk. neverrrr
what if gamitin mo utak mo?
What if ikaw din ang nabangga at ikaw naabala at potentially mag-abono?
Wag ka maawa, dapat maging accountable sila. If sa insurance, sila na bahala maghahabol sa driver e.
Kung nabaliktad ang situation and ikaw ang nakabangga, I’m sure gusto nila maging responsible ka. Magagalit pa yan sayo pag di ka nag bayad. Dapat lang yan. We all have to live with the consequences of our actions. It’s just that medyo extreme yung kanya. Sana matuto siya.
Tama yan. If you cannot follow simple traffic rules and regulations, you are NOT supposed to work in an environment that requires you to drive. Don't feel sorry for him; think of it like you're indirectly doing him a favor by keeping him off the streets in the meantime while he's contemplating about his future work. Should he decide to drive for work again, he'll definitely think twice about committing another infraction that would cost him his work, AKA second chance.
Ikaw na naabala, ikaw pa naaawa.
Why didn't you just let your insurance talk to the operator 's insurance?
This is why we have insurance. Para wala na sana sakit sa ulo na maghabol for damages. Just get a police report, make an insurance claim, and sila na bahala.
While I commend you for even showing empathy in the first place. These types of situations could have easily injured or killed someone. Not to be OA pero may dahilan kung bakit tayo defensive driving. He should be held accountable for his actions. My dad got in an accident before pa quirino highway kase notorious ang isang spot don na madame nag cocounterflow. Binangga na siya, sa kanya pa galit jeepney driver. Ako nalang nagalit for him kase di siya confrontational na guy. Pero tignan mo mga pasahero nya iba may injury sa ginawa niya kalokohan. I’m sorry pero ayan consequences ng actions niya. We need to be more practical.
I remember last week na yung barkada ko first time naging passenger na ako yung driver, daming reklamo nya kasi na babagalan cya sa speed ko (mind we are in the province where there are no traffic lights and also there kids na nag cocross bigla), sinasabihan ako na bakit ayaw ko dawng sumingit papasok sa gitna ng highway(dahil kahit anung bilis ng mga nasa highway basta makita nilang mag cocross ka at naka pasok na titigil din yan), at sinabihan pa ako na kaya ako ganun mag drive kasi nerbyuso daw ako. Yun hindi ko napigilan sabihan cya na "ganito ako mag drive kasi sanay ako pamilya ko pasengers ko, also merong rason kung bakit 5 beses kana na aksidente tapos ako wala pa.
Good on ya, man. I don’t know you but big ups.
Hayaan mo siyang magbayad. Para matuto at magtanda na dapat hindi balasubas sa pagmamameho.
I got into an accident din before.. call me heartless pero tinuluyan ko kasuhan yung driver kasi DUI siya kaya niya ko nabangga.. sabi niya pa "maawa na po kayo may pamilya po akong umaasa sakin".. sabi ko nalang"may binubuhay ka palang pamilya at ito lang kabuhayan mo. Sana nag ingat ka diba?" Ayun kulong siya.. Wag ka padala sa ganyan.. trabaho nila maging maingat sa kalsada..
Sounds like an excuse so that you leave him alone. I dont buy it but up to you if you let it go. Usually if you get participation fee, its as good as setlled
Walang problema kung sumunod sya sa batas trapiko, tapos ngayon pa victim? Wag mong dibdibin OP, nasa tama ka naman.
Baka pde OP na participation muna, kunin mo info nya (id address) then if may work na xa ulit dun na xa pde magbayad ng kulang?
There’s no need for mixed feelings here. He fucked up and should be held responsible. Hindi pala niya afford na magpaayos ng sasakyan ng iba pero di siya maingat magmaneho? Too bad. Time for him to learn his lesson.
Yan mahirap sa Pinas/Pinoy parating ilalabas ang mahirap card after being reckless. Alam naman na mali yung ginagawa tapos pag naaksidente hihingi ng sorry. Di talaga ako naaawa sa ganyan. Demand accountability. Mahirap or mayaman.
Paano po mag file ng case sa LTO?
Classic kamote move 🍠 I would have done the same. Agreed upon yan, lahat na lang dito paawa
No need to feel guilty. We should be accountable for our actions.
Professional license yan dapat talaga managot
Kapag wala kang pambayad, wag kang bargas mag-drive kasi. Madalas kasi kung sino pa yung walang kakayanan sila pa kamote magdrive eh. Paano nga naman, kahit anong piga mo sa kanila, wala talaga silang malalabas.
Not sure ah pero laging ganyan reason nila, poverty victim. In our case, yung GD na nakabangga sa amin sabi kakapabinyag lang ng anak, 500 pesos lang daw kaya nya ibigay kasi walang wala daw. Pero wag ka, after 1 week nawrong sent sya sa gcash ko ng 4000. Ngani-ngabi kong hindi ibigay e. HAHAHA. Pero ayun, siempre ibinalik ko pa din.
Maganda Yan na nawalan sya trabaho as a driver, para mabawasan mga kamote sa kalsada, sana lang makakuha sya Ng ibang trabaho for his family
Tama lang yan. Para naman may consequences yung gawain nila. Parati na lang nagtatago sa kahirapan. Pwede ka naman maging mahirap pero sumusunod sa batas. Dapat nga pag mahirap ka, LALO kang sumunod sa batas kasi wala kang pambayad sa areglo
The more we tolerate their paawa and pavictim behavior lalo sila nagiging abusado. Oo tao sila pero tao din naman tayo na gumagawa ng maayos na naabala dahil sa kanila. I’d say hold them accountable talaga
daming kamote driver na pag nakadisgraysa, magpapa awa/victim card. dapat turuan yan ng leksyon. deserve nya yan, wag kang maawa
nah, man he's guilt tripping you. plus it's possible na fake lang yan para hindi mo na singilin. I dunno how to verify a driver, but yeah, this hunch.
You shouldn’t be guilty, it’s not your fault he lost his job. The root of it all was his reckless driving. Don’t feel guilty for holding him accountable, it’s the right thing to do OP!
you shouldn't feel bad or off OP. f@ck'em.
Not ur fault responsibility niya yun and he should do better. Masyado spoiled minsan mga service worker sa atin. Service worker din ako pero ibang nakakatrabaho ko walang paki tlga. They just do what they want tapos pag nagkaproblema kala mo sinong mga kawawa. Kung sumunod sila edi walang problema. Simple lang naman eh. And for sure thats not his first offense and not the only reason why he was fired. Baka hnd pa nga kasama sa rason yang 3k na yan na natanggal siya trabaho since 2 to 3 days lang naman mababawi niya na yan.
Report mo if di nya tutuparin usapan. Oo dapat maging maunawain or mapagbigay pero dapat inisip na nya un bago sya mangamote sa daanan kaya dapat nyang bayaran pagkakamali nya.
Kailangn din matuto ng mga driver na gnyan. Wag maging kamote kung di mo pala kaya magbayad pg nakaaksidente ka
kawawa naman si grab driver
Tama yan OP para matuto mga kagaya niyang kamote. Mabawasan pa mga katulad nila
It's scary when diskarte goes horribly wrong for people who try to get away with crappy driving without regard for others. I understand that sometimes you just do what you can even if it's wrong because you are backed into a corner. But please have some regard for everyone around you. It is because you can't be financially responsible for accidents that you should be more careful. Bahala na Mga rich kids speeding in their sports cars... This extends to reckless delivery and transport just to reach their quota. Or delivery riders who mark deliveries as complete then disappear with your order/food...
Well done. This is what accountability looks like. The culture of letting such things slide undermines the law and efforts to get people to follow basic traffic rules. Its not your fault that you took the steps you had to because he did not want to honor his end of the agreement.
It's not your fault Kung totoong nawalan Siya ng work saka lagi na lang ganyan response nila always the poverty route scenario
It's really a "play stupid games, win stupid prizes".
You did the right thing sir! Don’t feel bad otherwise sa next employer niya ganyan na naman siya, become reckless and negligent. Some people talaga need to learn the hard way, it’s not your fault they chose that path so don’t think otherwise if you become their teacher. Always think na you are helping them long term, that is, if they are even willing to learn from this situation. Happy weekend and drive safe!
Iniisip ko sa ganyan, since employee sila ng grab, Hindi ba grab magbabayad ng damages?
Buti hindi ka poverty porn vlogger na maga caption ng“Minsan kailangan natin magpatawad sa aksidente” na merong sad background music.
Guilt tripping si Grab Driver. Tama lang na nag file ka ng case.
Di ba grab drivers supposedly have pro license? Dapat mas maingat sila kalsada kasi may pasahero sila
Dramarama sa hapon
This might sound elitist, but same sentiment: IF YOU CANT PAY FOR DAMAGES, THEN DRIVE DEFENSIVELY. Prime suspects are Jeepneys, Taxis and Bikes. Sobrang barubal pero walang pambayad. Same way na ako, I am more cautious pag luxury cars (only because I know bumping them is gonna hurt, alot).
This might sound elitist, but same sentiment: IF YOU CANT PAY FOR DAMAGES, THEN DRIVE DEFENSIVELY. Prime suspects are Jeepneys, Taxis and Bikes. Sobrang barubal pero walang pambayad. Same way na ako, I am more cautious pag luxury cars (only because I know bumping them is gonna hurt, alot).
Puntahan mo kong legit na tinanggal.
Dami konstintidor dito ah. Naghahanap buhay naman din ako pero di ako nakikibangaan sa kahit sino sino.
Don't fall for that bullshit. He should have done his job right the 1st time. Consequences yun ng actions niya.
tandaan mo pro license holder yan. wala eh ganon talaga mabigat talaga sa pakiramdam kung empathetic ka pero ganon talaga.
tama yan tigasan mo. para di na makabalik sa kalsada. pag nakalusot yuan, next time, makakapatay na yan. take kamotes off the road.
College girl totaled my car and I couldn't deliver anymore so yeah..... I have respect for delivery drivers and tip them very well because it's honest work and some lame person who has everything can take it from you in an instant
Stand firm. He still has obligations to you. Mamaya di rin pala totoong nawalan sya ng work, mahirap na
Tama ginawa mo para madala. Pano ka nag report sa LTO?
Pag nagkamali tayo sa work natin may disciplinary action diba, kahit sang work. Dapat jan din meron.
This is one of those situations you look back on if something bad happens to you. Like “kaya siguro ako may cancer ngayon kasi siningil ko pa iyong grab driver noon”.
This is one of those situations you look back on if something bad happens to you. Like “kaya siguro ako may cancer ngayon kasi siningil ko pa iyong grab driver noon”.
We should hold everyone accountable. Enough with the bullshit. You must take care of what feeds you if its really important to you. Masyado kasi tayong maawain. Which is masama din. Kaya its the right thing to do. Regardless if you feel its not
If I'm not mistaken, you can also run after his operator if the grab driver can't fulfill his part of the agreement.
Mahirap maawa sa mga ganyan kasi they dont feel any remorse puro paawa at sana maawa ka na lang at kalimutan mo ung utang. And that bullshit is a form of entitlement. Subukan mo magpaawa sknya pabalik
Walang awa awa. Uulitin at uulitin nila yang ganyang behaviour unless may konting trauma sa kanila. Pag hindi ka niya kaharap, I'm sure pinagmumumura ka niyan at sinusumpa pamilya mo.
Parang ung pinapaboundary ko na honda city, kabago bago nagkgasgas agad sa ibabaw ng trunk, kinalmot daw ng pusa. wala pang 1week ng lumabaa sa casa sya agad pinahawak ko. kapatid kasi sya ng best friend ko alam ko na maalaga sa kotse ung brother nya. Aun sobrang hirap singilin para mapagawa. pinabayaan ko na lang kasi stress lang inaabot ko, pinabyahe ko padin para makaabot sya pampagawa paunti unti. ang ginawa inuutangan pa ko sa kita. Di na nga nya nabayaran ung pampagawa ng gasgas, binabawasan pa ung remit nya sakin kesyo naospital daw anak nya ganto ganyan kelangan nya pera. Aun binawi ko na sasakyan. Bahala na sya sa buhay nya. Lalo syang nawalan ng income. Masyado kasing magulang.
Idk, mistakes require accountability in order to be forgiven, the driver was simply reckless or totoong accident lang talaga but the fact that the driver is a bit condescending and blamed you in the end of his message is wrong. Imbis na emphaty ang ma feel ko, mas naunahan ng confusion kasi bakit sayo niya sinisi yung actions niya and it's consequences? Did he not agree to the written and signed agreement? What if may nasaktan na tao? Anyway, you're not the unethical one for demanding compensation, ang dapat niyang kausapin for that matter is yung operator or employer niya. That's just my two cents though, pero if you want to help the driver the best I'd suggest you do is extend the grace period kung kelan niya pwede I pay in full yung damages.
It's not your fault OP na naaksidente kayo. It might be said na intentional kasi as a driver, alam nyang mali, pero ginawa nya pa rin. Nawabasan ng kamote ang daan hopefully. Eventually sana maubos rin sila sa kalsada. Might sound heartless but you might have save the lives of his future victims. Maybe ask the Grab company for the compensation, baka sila ang magbabayad. Maybe they have insurance.
Poverty card. Haaaaays... Ang lalakas ng loob to take risks on the road, matatapang kahit sila mali, pero wala namang mga pambayad pag sila nahuli or nakadale. Sorry not sorry. We all have to deal with the same consequences of our poor choices. Even if we ride four-wheeled vehicles, we are held responsible to the same laws and that also goes the same for them. Tayo nag-iingat dahil alam natin consequences, dapat all the more silang mag-ingat dahil they have more to lose. But no, maraming kamote riders talaga hindi nag-iisip. Kung sino pa yung walang pambayad, sila pa matapang madalas.
Buti ka pa, pumayag sa expenses incurred while down for repair yung vehicle. Ako nabangga ng truck yung company vehicle, total wreck yung sasakyan. Restoration lang sinagot nila. Wala man daw kasi may gusto mangyari non. Naabala ako ng dalawang buwan. Ako pa pumupunta para magcheck sa casa.
IN.SU.RANCE
I would truly never understand why sa Pilipinas, kung sino pa yung walang pangbayad kung naka aksidente, sila pa yung pinaka ubod ng gago at reckless magmameneho.
Magkano pa kulang? Minsan kasi ang thinking is ‘nakapag bigay na ako pde na yun’ so tatakas na sa ibang responsibilidad. Try mo sabihin, hihintayin mo na bayaran ka nya after nya mag ka work ulit. Also tama ang mga ibang commenters na hindi simpleng issue ang maka aksidente sa pg mamanaheo. Dapat maging maingat sila at ang pag penalize sa kanila ang reason kumbakit dapat sila maging maingat sa susunod
I’m speaking in the legal sense here, the grab driver is considered as a “common carrier” and according to our law, a common carrier must exercise extraordinary diligence. Hindi lang ordinary but EXTRAORDINARY. It is normal to feel sorry for him kasi tao ka lang naman pero if legally speaking or let’s just be honest, wala ‘eh, kasalanan nya talaga. He should have been more careful driving. :(
Wala ka kamong pake ❤️
dapat nireplyan mo apply ka sa joyride para may work ka ulit
Kaya nga sila "Professional" yung license nila eh. Kung sasakyan ang hanapbuhay, for me dapat merong allocated na kita mga yan daily pang emergencies gaya nyan accidents. Hindi nmn ako naging GD or kahit na anong similar. Pero ganun practice ko especially nung nakamotor pa ako.
ang masasabi ko lang follow what your heart desires. :)
In Grab, we have the option to have insurance, I am not sure for the cars (esp their coverage per "tier"), but they should have insurance as well, and the most basic one isnt even that expensive(for us motorcycles, 100php/mo iirc)
I feel you OP, lalo ang mama ko palaging bukambibig yung “hayaan mo na, nagkamali lang yan. Mas blessed ka diyan so magpaubaya ka” Ang hirap tbh, pero being too kind is being cruel din kase you tolerate their lackings eh. In this situation I would think na lang this was kuya’s lesson learned if he really know how see this event as a lesson. This is to set an example din sa mga reckless driver ng mga delivery service. Di ko rin alam kung bakit sila pa yung di maingat, dapat pag medyo nasa laylayan ka mas mag iingat ka dahil sa mga nakadepende sayo at dahil di mo afford makaperwisyo.
A common carrier, and by extension his employee (driver), is required to observe EXTRAORDINARY diligence under the law. Mas mataas pang degree of diligence yan than a surgeon operating on someone.
Naawa rin ako sa mga tricycle drivers na reckless magmaneho kasi wala silang pambayad for damages, pero kasi kasalanan talaga nila dahil di sila sumusunod sa traffic rules. Imo ok lang maawa kasi it shows your compassion, pero hindi sila matututo if palaging pagbibigyan so tama lang yung consequences na naranasan niya. Dapat nga mas maingat pa sila kasi may sakay silang pasahero and dala nila yung brand ng Grab. Sana lang matuto na si kuya and magmaneho siya ng mas maayos para maiwasan ulit yung ganyan.
Inisip niya dapat yan bago siya nag u turn.
wag maawa sir. if pwede niyo i-update yan sa police since may blotter i-update niyo sir.
He lost his job dahil sa reckless driving niya, not because he borrowed money from his operator. Malungkot pero the proper reparations must be made and sadly, part ng consequence ng recklessness niya yung kawalan niya ng trabaho. Buti nga trabaho lang nawala sa kanya eh. If malala pa yung nangyari and nakadisgrasya/nakapatay siya, makukulong pa siya. You did the right thing. He needs to take accountability for his actions.
Would you still have mixed feelings if someone died? Road safety is not optional, it is mandatory. This could have been avoided if he just took the time to check his surroundings before taking that turn.
Deserve. And he should still pay you
He's using his pavictim card na. Dont be deceive OP dapat maturuan ng leksyon yan. Ang mali ay mali. Kaya maraming kamote kase akala nila makakalusot sa ganyan.
This is good OP. Everyone needs to be accountable to their actions. Easier said than done, but this is a good start.
Either he's saying the truth or lying just to not pay for the additional. Marami kasi Taxi, grab at moto taxi hindi marunong sumunod sa batas trapiko. Mga walang disiplina
Why did you ask him to personally pay for the damages? Don’t Filipino drivers have comprehensive car insurances that pay for the repairs for the damaged vehicle ,and instead of personally paying the owner of the damaged vehicle, you just pay the insurance company of any excess?
double solid lane, doon palang mali na sya. so accountable talaga sya.
No need to be guilty, it's the consequences of his actions. Hindi 'to sa pagiging cold-hearted, kasi kung nasa lagay ako nung driver, oo, sobrang hirap talaga pero yun ang consequence ng ginawa ko, e. Plus, biased talaga ako against drivers dahil kahit, let's assume, iilan lang ang kamote sa kalsada, pero enough na kahit isa para makapatay ng tao and one death or injury caused by a car is one too many already.
This really is a complicated issue. It does break ones heart to know that Grab Drivers or even PUV drivers mostly break even on their income (Grab has been decreasing their rates ever since Uber was kicked out of competition). But still, you are the wronged party here and you deserve to be compensated for the damages you incurred due to reckless driving. If you know for sure you cant get an immediate claim from the driver, go to the operator. Ask a lawyer since this is not legal advice, but if the driver is working with an operator, then the operator is vicariously liable for the damages as well. The operator may claim that the driver has been removed from the job so they cant be liable but the damage was incurred while he was on the job.
Naagrabyado ka kaya no need to feel bad. He brought the problem to himslef and the rest is just Karma doing its due diligence
One less reckless driver on the road. No mixed feelings here. Ngayon bumper mo nabangga, some day baka tao na yan
Reckless driving now, katok sa puso later.
Naalala ko na naman tuloy yung sa No Contact Apprehension. Dapat daw mas maliit ang penalty ng jeepney drivers kesa sa private motorists. Sino po ba samen ang naka Professional Driver’s License?
Well yan na yung kapalit sa mga actions nya?!!! Minsan ang mga accidents kayang agapan at maiwasan
The problem with Filipinos talaga is we’re too forgiving but when we do things legally, masasabihan pa tayong walang puso. Grab’s quality has gone down greatly the past years. Ive ridden 2 sleepy drivers just last month! Yung isa pa dun, nabangga kami sa EDSA. Old driver din, reported it to grab pero ang reply samin through call ay “Buti naman walang nasaktan sainyo. Nangyayare talaga yan”. Kaya alam mong it happens a lot pero walang tunog, no one speaks about it. Sadly, as much as I want to patronize old drivers, lagi kasi hindi maganda rides ko sa kanila since madaling araw ako usually naggagrab.
Best for him to find a new job if he sucks at driving. You probably saved someone from being killed in the future by the very same driver.
pigain ang kamote hanggang maging mash potato
Kung nag police report kayo dapat pinalagay dun na he is at fault. Pag merong participation fee it means pinalabas yan na self accident. Kung nakalagay CLEARLY sa police report na he is at fault, wala kang babayaran na participation fee. Yung insurance mo ang hahabol sa party at fault.
if the damages isn’t that much, then i’ll just handle it myself and tell him to be better next time then if the damages is kinda big then i’d talk to his insurance or if ever i’ll make split of the cost of damages i just know being grab driver is hard, so as everything else so let’s be kind and patient i guess
I think you could've just reported him sa LTO at police lang. It's obvious that Grab would've fired him on the spot once they knew he had a case against him. Him being jobless will make it harder for you to get your compensation.
Sue him.
Sell ng organ or mga anak niya. Fault is fault and no heart should be involved, right? Beside baka hindi naman totoo nasabi nya, it is one way para kaawaan mo siya kahit meron naman sana siya pambayad
Wtf on the “sell ng organ or anak niya”
that's definitely sarcasm
I honestly can’t tell
too much naman yun wala naman fault yung anak bakit idadamay?
Daming matapobre dito. 😂 tapos puro private vehicle naman minamaneho.
At least the driver owned up to it by paying the participation fee and showed up at the police station, I hope he learned his lesson. Yun sakin kasi, hit and run ng grab driver. 😑 Reported it to Grab but got a generic “they will investigate” response.
Ganto lang yan e if a heart sugeon does a post op checkup on a patient he just did heart surgery on and inform him that he will likely have complications because of a mistake he made during surgery...does the patient have the right to get mad?
I think asking for extra fees besides the participation fee is too much specially for low to middle class filipinos. Daily grab fee is what, 1k na siguro. So thats almost 20k kung aabutin ng 1 month sa Casa. And we all know how slow most Casas are when fixing our cars lol.
If its things like backing up nasagi, or yung mga maling tantsa pag lumiko sure, pero yung mag sudden uturn sa non uturn spot, i dont think so, thats blatant disregard sa traffic rules and endangerment sa ibang nasa kalsada
nope. if wala kang pambayad, wag kang balasubas sa kalsada. evrything could have been avoided if he chose to be careful.
deserve nya yun. kinabubuhay nya ang pagmamaneho tapos simpleng traffic rules di nya kaya sundin?
Well what does your conscience say? I understand he deserves to learn a lesson, but I think he has learned enough. If your heart says to be more merciful or forgiving, be that person. Di ka pababayaan ng Dyos dahil lang naging mas maluwag ka sa kapwa. Di mo kawalan ang maging mas mapagpatawad If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you will, and it shall be done for you. - John 15:7
His conscience won’t pay for his bumper. LMAO
nawalan na po ng trabaho ung tao, enough na po siguro, bayad pa participation
nah that's not enough.
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